Althouse: Elon Musk responds "true" to the statement "The most damaging fake news comes from the biggest corporate media outlets."

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Elon Musk responds "true" to the statement "The most damaging fake news comes from the biggest corporate media outlets."

True
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 22, 2022

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Joe Smith म्हणाले...: The koi overfeed is my favorite.

What a fucking monster : ); २२/११/२२, १२:०३ PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...: AMEN.

Leftist media = lies lies and more lies. but it's for Hillary and Biden and all the other insider crooks.; २२/११/२२, १२:०६ PM
Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...: It is a reckoning that Big Media seems unable to acknowledge, and we all know the first step is admitting you are fake news. Either that or we acknowledge mistakes can be made BUT this requires you acknowledge your errors just as loudly and widely as you spread the BS.

And they can't. They want all the power and no responsibility, which is why the audiences are dwindling for traditional news sources or they remain but with few believing what they say.; २२/११/२२, १२:०६ PM
Rusty म्हणाले...: And the usual suspects that put Biden in the White House lap that crap up like mothers milk.; २२/११/२२, १२:०७ PM
RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...: Seen going viral on the net yesterday:

"If Alex Jones's disinformation is worth a billion dollars, than the Associated Press and their "secret intelligence source" owe us all at least a couple thousand for almost getting us into WWIII over Polish-murdering Ukrainian missiles."

Amen. Please also wake me when they're held accountable for aiding-and-abetting Blasey-Ford's smear of Brett Kavanaugh.; २२/११/२२, १२:१० PM
RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...: "Hands up, don't shoot"

Quite possibly the greatest lie of the last decade, didn't make the list.

Figures.; २२/११/२२, १२:१२ PM
zipity म्हणाले...: Why, if I didn't know better, I would almost think that the Mainstream Media would lie about anything/everything to advance the Liberal/Democrat narrative/agenda.

Almost.; २२/११/२२, १२:१४ PM
Enigma म्हणाले...: "The best defense is a good offense."

"We hang together or we hang separately."

Abraham Lincoln's rebuttal: "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."; २२/११/२२, १२:१९ PM
Gahrie म्हणाले...: or they remain but with few believing what they say.

Unfortunately in my experience this isn't true. I know and work with dozens of people who believe the MSM and immediately forget the lies to avoid cognitive dissonance. When I remind them of the lies they dismiss them as old news.

Watch, Hunter's laptop and the Biden family corruption will be dismissed as old news and the story will be about the evil Republicans harassing the Bidens.; २२/११/२२, १२:२० PM
n.n म्हणाले...: SUV killed parade marchers... No, it was the foot to the peddle that released the gas that was ignited that drove the wheels that moved the high-mass vehicle with progressive kinetic energy. Ban assault-style feet, and little steering fingers, too.

That said, secular faith is a first-order forcing of social contagion in the 20the and 21st centuries, with equitable and inclusive effect, but, fortunately, not equal and comprehensive subornation of human dignity and agency.; २२/११/२२, १२:२१ PM
Lance म्हणाले...: Let's add some more...

Climate science is settled.
GMO produce is bad for you.
Non-organic produce is bad for you.
Banning guns will reduce violent crime.
Democrats don't want to ban guns.
Teachers don't push CRT, or trans/gay sex.
There's no inflation.
Inflation is only temporary.
Inflation is good for you.
Dobbs decision banned abortion.; २२/११/२२, १२:२२ PM
Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...: "Hands up, don't shoot"

Quite possibly the greatest lie of the last decade, didn't make the list.

Figures.

Good catch. It is impossible for one to keep a complete list since it grows longer by the second.; २२/११/२२, १२:३० PM
Quayle म्हणाले...: Oh you curmudgeonly Althouse readers and commentors! Who cares any more about what is fake news or real news or any news or anything published or streamed or written?

The clicks on the links are real, real, real money!
So are the number of views!

This is about cash, people! Cold, hard, cash. The competition is fierce and cutthroat, showing a 15 second portrait aspect video of an overly maked-up girl doing a little dance routine while lip syncing lyrics to some Arabic language song, or a guy hitting his girlfriend in the face with a chocolate pie while the cute dog barks. You can't expect the AP and CBS News to compete with that by frumpily telling you verified facts about the potential steps towards WWIII, do you?

Get current, folks. The competition for advertising dollars is fierce. It's the wild west free market. Anything goes. The dinosaurs of media get left behind. The only question of concern is whether the portrait aspect is best to show a mushroom cloud (and it probably is.); २२/११/२२, १२:३७ PM
planetgeo म्हणाले...: Yes, but about half the country either believes it or finds it a reassuring pretext for continuing to vote the way it does. Therefore, the MSM sees no reason to stop lying. In fact, it feels rewarded and esteemed for doing so.; २२/११/२२, १२:४५ PM
Creola Soul म्हणाले...: Damn, busted……again.; २२/११/२२, १:०९ PM
Leland म्हणाले...: I was looking for the "Good people on both sides" mention.; २२/११/२२, १:१३ PM
Mason G म्हणाले...: "Unfortunately in my experience this isn't true. I know and work with dozens of people who believe the MSM and immediately forget the lies to avoid cognitive dissonance. When I remind them of the lies they dismiss them as old news."

What difference, at this point, does it make?; २२/११/२२, १:१७ PM
Ann Althouse म्हणाले...: @Leland

It's the second thing on the list; २२/११/२२, १:१८ PM
Ann Althouse म्हणाले...: You need to click the image to see the whole thing. When you do that, you'll see the "Charlottesville hoax" — "Good people on both sides" — is the second item: "Trump called neo-Nazis 'fine people'"; २२/११/२२, १:२० PM
Lexington Green म्हणाले...: "Trump called neo-Nazis 'fine people."

Yeah. Lie.

Trump said there were fine people on both sides of the issue of whether the statue should come down.

As always the target-rich actual Trump is never rich enough for his enemies, who need an imaginary orange Hitler to hate.; २२/११/२२, १:२६ PM
Misinforminimalism म्हणाले...: I think if Musk endorses your tweet as "true" you should get a free blue check for a month.; २२/११/२२, १:२८ PM
Michael K म्हणाले...: Abraham Lincoln's rebuttal: "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

Another rebuttal: "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

Those are pretty good odds, though.; २२/११/२२, १:४९ PM
Lance म्हणाले...: Can't believe this got missed:

Mostly peaceful protests.; २२/११/२२, २:०३ PM
ccscientist म्हणाले...: Kyle has a good memory. Remember that way back when, the newspapers had a heavy hand in starting the spanish/amer war. How do you tell a reporter is lying? He is typing.; २२/११/२२, २:१३ PM
Gusty Winds म्हणाले...: Musk is correct. It is true. That is a well known and growing list. It's not new to Twitter. Scott Adams has promoted that hoax media list. For Adams the "fine people hoax" is the biggest hoax. It's almost a litmus test to see if you fall for the other bullshit on the list.

Trump NEVER called neo-Nazi's fine people. Trump never defended neo-Nazis. The fact of the matter was at Charlottesville there were, and are, fine people on both sides of the fence. Full quotes:

Trump, Aug. 14, 2017: "As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.

And as I have said many times before: No matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God. We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry, and violence. We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.

Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.

We are a nation founded on the truth that all of us are created equal. We are equal in the eyes of our Creator. We are equal under the law. And we are equal under our Constitution. Those who spread violence in the name of bigotry strike at the very core of America."

Next:

Reporter, Aug. 15, 2017: You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides

Trump: Well, I do think there’s blame – yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. You look at, you look at both sides. I think there’s blame on both sides, and I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And, and, and, and if you reported it accurately, you would say.

Reporter: The neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville. …

Trump: Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo — and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. …

It’s fine, you’re changing history, you’re changing culture, and you had people – and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats – you had a lot of bad people in the other group too.

Reporter: I just didn’t understand what you were saying. You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly? …

Trump: No, no. There were people in that rally, and I looked the night before. If you look, they were people protesting very quietly, the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day, it looked like they had some rough, bad people, neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest, because you know, I don’t know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit. So I only tell you this: There are two sides to a story."; २२/११/२२, २:२२ PM
Gusty Winds म्हणाले...: Better. Musk Tweet 8:44am Nov 20, 2022

"It is tragic how far The New York Times has fallen – basically just boring af far left brainwashing at this point. The boring part is truly unforgivable!"

Musk responding to a post regarding the NYTs Pulitzers for reporting and pushing the Russian Collusion Hoax. Nov 20 3:09pm

"“All the news that’s fit to print” my ass"

Musk is not hiding what he thinks of the propaganda pushing MSM and their constant lies.

Good for him. It's needed.; २२/११/२२, २:३१ PM
Gusty Winds म्हणाले...: Blogger Ann Althouse said...
@Leland

It's the second thing on the list

The second thing on the list is "Trump called neo-Nazi's fine people". That is a lie, and I put the full quoted text above for intelligent context. It matters.

Trump did say there were "fine people" on both sides at Charlottesville. And if you read his full quotes, that's true. And he condemned neo-Nazi's numerous times.

"Trump called neo-Nazi's fine people" is a hoax and a lie. Any person that can read knows it. Unless of course...it fill and idea of prejudice you want filled in your own head, for your own comfort and validation. That's why this shit works so well on liberals.; २२/११/२२, २:३८ PM
Wince म्हणाले...: True that...

True Social?; २२/११/२२, ३:३९ PM
Leland म्हणाले...: Yeah, didn’t click through because it looked like I saw the whole thing, but it starts with Jesse Smollett without clicking. Odd that the image box changes zoom on the image. Thank you for the correction.; २२/११/२२, ३:४५ PM
DanTheMan म्हणाले...: >> The koi overfeed is my favorite. What a f******* monster : )

Be fair. They were 100% correct when reporting that Trump got two scoops of ice cream when everybody else only got one.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/trump-time-magazine-ice-cream/index.html

But I concede your point... only an inhuman monster could commit such an atrocity.; २२/११/२२, ४:५१ PM
madAsHell म्हणाले...: I'm surprised Black Lives Matter didn't make the list.; २२/११/२२, ५:०९ PM
Gusty Winds म्हणाले...: This is incredible. Imagine two years ago, or a year ago, you'd see a guy like Musk buy Twitter, and then boldly and publicly rebuke the Democrat and MSM lies that drove us all nuts.

Musk is restoring banned accounts which should have never been banned in the first place.

He's pulling books out of the fire and roasting the book burners at the same time.

Not only is Musk taking on the MSM...he's making fun of them.; २२/११/२२, ५:५२ PM
Freeman Hunt म्हणाले...: It seems objectively true. They have the greatest reach, and they have no real incentive to be accurate.; २२/११/२२, ५:५८ PM
Darkisland म्हणाले...: I'd love to see Musk tweet something like:

"thinking of buying the NY times." Then a Twitter poll on whether it's a good idea or not.

I know, privately owned, ostensibly not for sale. Otho, if a good enough offer comes along, pretty much everything is for sale.

WaPo sold to bezos for $250mm. Would the Sulzbergers turn down $1bn? $1.5bn?

John Henry

I don't care if he buys it or not. Just making the comment woul create enormous entertainment value.; २२/११/२२, ७:०३ PM
hpudding म्हणाले...: They forgot:

Red wave
Pizzagate
Adrenochrome
Transsexuals are pedophiles looking to “convert” (“groom”) children to transexualism
Trickle Down Economics
Bush keep America safe
Trump as a successful businessman
Critical Race Theory as public primary school curriculum
Embryonic personhood

Etc. etc. etc.; २२/११/२२, ८:२९ PM
Narayanan म्हणाले...: Abraham Lincoln's rebuttal: "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."
===
Lincoln could have been prescient about Democrats if 'some' = just enough for majority during elections.; २२/११/२२, ८:३८ PM
hpudding म्हणाले...: I see that the definition of “insurrection” is a “a violent uprising against an authority or government.”

Was January 6th:

Not violent?
Not an uprising?
Not posed against an authority or government?

Counting votes is the first step in determining a free government and Trump’s goon squad of MAGAtrons violently tried to prevent that. He led it from the podium and then watched and applauded it from his bunker in the WH.; २२/११/२२, ८:५२ PM
J Melcher म्हणाले...: Nathan phillips was a vietnam veteran

The covington kids yelled racial slurs and smirked at him

Kyle rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal assualt rifle to kill black protesters

Tiki torches are symbols of terror deployed by white supremicists

Votes in drop boxes are safe and secure

Shutting down elementary schools saved luves and anyhow kids are resilient

Solar energy is free; २२/११/२२, १०:१३ PM
J Melcher म्हणाले...: Epstein killed himself

Paul pelosi was attacked by a MAGA fanatic

Nobody ever found any indication that Iraq had any WMD or means or intentions of manufacturing them

Voting machines are more secure than ATMs

Electric vehicle battery fires are rare and no more dangerous than, say, a ford pinto

It is better for a child to stay in the state foster system than be adopted into a familt of a different race

Gender affirming care has proven to prevent suicides among teenagers

Castrating males and masectomies for females are compassionate treatments for those who have been mis-assigned gender; २२/११/२२, १०:२५ PM
J Melcher म्हणाले...: Those who purchase paintings from hunter buden like the art.

GW Bush is stupider than nearly every journalist who wrote about him.

Advertising works.

Campaign spending is a useful predictive metric of the outcome of future elections.

The very large fraction of students who fail to show grade level competence on standardized tests are victims of racism. And merely test poorly though they have competencies that can't be tested for.

NASA's SLS is great science!

Carbon is a pollutant. Which is why we must eliminate all fossil fuels like methane.

States are making money and reducing crime by de criminalizing cannabis.

Price controls and rent controls are economist approved measures for inflation.

DACA applies to children.

Twitter is a good means of sampling publuc opinion.; २२/११/२२, १०:४० PM
Achilles म्हणाले...: Darkisland said...

WaPo sold to bezos for $250mm. Would the Sulzbergers turn down $1bn? $1.5bn?

John Henry

Musk would be sending his offers to Carlos Slims. The Mexican Oil Oligarch that actually owns the NYT's.; २२/११/२२, १०:४५ PM
Rusty म्हणाले...: Is puddin' Inga? I'm seeing a lot of similarities.; २३/११/२२, ९:३० AM