Now that a few days have passed, and with crazy theories/rhetoric flying around, would be good to see SFPD release info in Paul Pelosi attack: 1) 911 call audio; 2) officers' bodycam video; 3) toxicological tests; 4) all reports. Facts are vital to understanding.
— Byron York (@ByronYork) October 31, 2022
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Would it be "good to see" all this?
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Wouldn't be good for the Pelosi's or the D's. Good luck getting "all this."
When things get political, always good to provide the raw data for people to see. I don't trust anyone to tell me what actually happened. I assume it was a breaking and entering, followed by an assault. I also assume the raw info will back up these assumptions.
When things get political, always good to provide the raw data for people to see. I don't trust anyone to tell me what actually happened. I assume it was a breaking and entering, followed by an assault. I also assume the raw info will back up these assumptions.
Good grief Byron, none of this will see the light day.
Define "good."
But they won't...just like the fake Insurrection they are stewing about and locking up American citizens for taking selfies in the Capitol after being ushered in by the Capitol police. Nancy won't release ALL the video of that day, only cherry picked video. Why?? To protect their lying asses. It is the American Dream now to not be lied to about everything
yes, yes it would
no, no it Won't happen
If it shows the truth of what happened at the Pelosi residence, it would be very good to see all this.
But, America is no longer about truths, it is about propaganda, so from that standpoint it would be bad for whoever is lying.
Would it be good to see all that? Ordinarily no, but with extremist newsmedia pushing ever-crazier memes, a lot of ground truth is badly needed
Yes. Isn't there some statement like "sunlight is a good disinfectant"?
It would be good for the public to be given the facts, but probably not for democrats, so we won't see any of this until after the election.
It's Hunter's laptop all over again.
Good, proper, and necessary.
Somebody is going to have to sue to pry whatever is left of the emergency call records from the Pelosi district.
The kid gloves treatment of Biden’s son and Pelosi’s husband points to the real possibility that there’s a whole lot of things being kept from the American public.
Yes!! Mr. DePape has a right to a public trial and the trial must be open to the public. The local prosecutor (likely a close "friend" of the Pelosi clan or somehow indebted to them) has a greater incentive to uphold her duties if she knows that the public is watching.
Now that we spread conspiracy theories for a few days, you owe us the information to disprove them.
That's some interesting logic by the right.
That is a decent list.
We could also use surveillance footage from the cameras on the house.
I think we all know why none of this information is being released immediately.
The narrative required and the propaganda being vomited out have been outed before they could take hold. The decision loop is too short for the propagandists to create their lies now.
Russian Collusion took years.
The Smollet Hoax took days.
The Pelosi Hoax took hours.
Of course the victim would be protected by redaction. But yes, with the President blaming this on Republicans, we need to know the facts.
The Democrats brought the need for disclosure on themselves.
Something about the nature of censorship when it’s allowed for something important, or whatever, when something unimportant comes along it cannot be regarded as unimportant, because the nature of censorship is to censor. Censorship for its own sake.
Will not happen.
If it weren't the husband of the speaker of the house and if Democrats and the media hadn't rushed to make political hay out of it, I'd say no. It's not our business and Paul Pelosi should have some privacy. But as things stand, getting to the truth is more important.
If this was ANY Republican woman's husband, all these Twitter lefties, including the blue check Hollywood talk show morons, would have been calling it a gay hookup gone wrong.
Understanding is good. Thus, facts, slimy as they may be, are "good" as a tool to the good of understanding.
Are you asking because if it is a private matter let it go? Or because it is noise in the run to the election? Or just simple overkill?
Good to see / fair game to see? Also, when you don't give people enough information they do what they're doing right now on this issue.
Logical, it would be extremely useful to see that done, it would clear up confusion.
And that’s why it most likely won’t happen. White Witch Pelosi will see to that.
As Stalin might say, "good for whom?"
Classic 2022 American trajectory:
1. Make all sorts of insane claims
2. Demand endless documentation to prove that insane claims are wrong
3. Believe none of the documentation.
The Obama birther thing was a classic example, so too the 2020 election. It's exhausting and no Byron your random internet theories do not require others to engage.
Would it be "good to see" all this?
Well, that depends on whether or not people value the truth.
I do, so I support his request. The body cam images can have the nudity blurred out
Well, I want to see it. But I also wanted to know all the details of Watergate. (Once Nixon resigned and was pardoned, pretty much everyone lost interest. The search for new evidence and evidence that hadn't been destroyed pretty much ended. So there are still lots of questions for enquiring minds.)
“Stop the hammering!”
— Larry O’Donnell
A poor, downtrodden man, cold and naked, cast aside by society and cast out of his beloved home by an abusive landlord went to a place where he believed he could find a friend. A place where he could find shelter from the storm and a helping hand.
He went to the home of Nancy Pelosi, a friend to all those in need.
Alas, the helping hand held a hammer and he was viciously attacked for having the hope and audacity to approach one of his betters.
But our hero stood his ground. There, inside the Rich Man's Keep he disarmed his attacker and turned the Master's weapon upon the Master.
He struck a blow for freedom, a blow for justice and, yes, he struck a blow for love, brothers and sisters.
Burn down the mission, if you want to stay alive. Take what you need.
Godspeed, David.
The Obama birther thing was a classic example, so too the 2020 election.
False comparison. One of those things is not like the other.
brooklyn denizen
your leftwing insanity
precedes your presence
Mark said...
Now that we spread conspiracy theories for a few days, you owe us the information to disprove them.
it's not the Right spreading the "conspiracy theories", it's everyone on the Left who claims this is "Right wing political violence" who's spreading the baseless conspiracy theories
"3. Believe none of the documentation."
There hasn't been any 'documentation.' That's the point.
And no, official statements are not documentation of anything except what the Organs want us to believe.
The trouble with throuples h/t NYT, celebration of crime, and spouses that wield assault-style blunt objects h/t Pelosi, Nancy, is that they bear the complexity of a doubled-edged scalpel.
Classic prog trajectory:
1. Make all sorts of insane claims (hands up, don't shoot! Russia collusion! Kemp stole election! MAGA attacks Pelosi!)
2. Provide no evidence that insane claims are right
3. First suppress, then ignore subsequent documentation and #MoveOn.
I remember a couple of years ago, amid all the protests to defund the police, some were more moderate and asked simply for more police accountability. One of the things they wanted was for body cams to be worn and on for all interactions and for the footage to be publicly available. I was against that at the time, thinking it would be traumatic for sexual assault victims, but in this case I'm all for it. Let's see the video.
There are some privacy concerns. My heart doesn't overflow with sympathy for the Pelosi family, but still....If I'm in my underwear and involved in a mortal struggle with a maniac at 2:30 in the morning, I would not want a video of the incident to be made public. Unless I was really buff and I won the struggle.
"3. Believe none of the documentation."
There hasn't been any 'documentation.' That's the point."
Actually, that would point to not making baseless insane claims, then expecting people to rush to disprove them. Which is the point.
Yes. Transparency would help. Facts are what journalism should be all about after all. Let us hear and see for ourselves how well the various reports add up in light of actual, you know, EVIDENCE.
Oh, and we are informed that refusing to accept the ridiculous official story is also “celebrating” the attack. You are “making fun of the attack” unless you sit there and allow yourself to be slandered.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2022/10/31/everyone-is-laughing-at-the-ridiculous-pelosi-big-lie-n2615222
Mark said...
Now that we spread conspiracy theories for a few days, you owe us the information to disprove them.
That's some interesting logic by the right.
10/31/22, 10:49 AM
Says the side that ran with the Fake Russian collision that Hillary paid for, for 6 years. How's Jussie Smollett doing?? Any more MAGA attacking him in Chicago??
Daniel12 said...
Classic 2022 American trajectory:
1. Make all sorts of insane claims
2. Demand endless documentation to prove that insane claims are wrong
3. Believe none of the documentation.
The Obama birther thing was a classic example, so too the 2020 election. It's exhausting and no Byron your random internet theories do not require others to engage.
10/31/22, 11:07 AM
So was Hillary's paid Fake Russian Collusion, Jussie Smollett, the fake noose at NASCAR, ect..ect..ect.. You side plays the game well.
Was DePape fully clothed or in his underwear when arrested and processed: if not fully clothed, were items of clothing and personal effects recovered and used to identify him? Assuming he broke into the house without knowing how many people were inside, would it have made sense to partially disrobe? Was DePape cut, and was there blood on the broken window? Assuming being hit in the head with a hammer produces blood spatter, where was it located? Were there two communications with authorities: a request for a “welfare check” and a 911 call, & who asked for the welfare check? Who let the cops in? Did Pelosi lose consciousness, and, if so, when did he regain it & what did he say? Do electronic devices reveal and prior communications between DePape and Pelosi? If one wanted to know whether Speaker Pelosi would or would not be at home, couldn’t one check her public schedule?
I'd love to see the NY Post get the scoop, publish the info, and post it on Twitter. I bet Elon would allow it to stay posted.
911 Call, yes. Bodycam imagery, yes.
Toxicology screens? No.
The Reality is that the 911 call and bodycam imagery runs counter to Democratic claims, I suspect, and it must therefore be buried (at least 'til after the election).
This story isn't difficult to understand- the media in San Francisco did get some of the basic facts immediately from the people involved (surely the cops and EMTs who responded to the scene, and probably a nosy neighbor or two, followed by the statements made and released by the SFPD. There was certainly a hammer involved, an assault on Paul Pelosi, and that the two men were in their underwear- these are the sorts of eyewitness details that are going to be accurate in the first rush at writing a sourced story. Journalism is a fallen profession, but it hasn't yet fallen that far at making up fake details right at the start. The telling of the story at the original press conference is going to have accurate details, too, though not as many as they could give, so it is all but certain there was third person present who "let the police in" rather than the police breaking in themselves. Why lie about such a detail right at the start?
York, of course, is correct- if you want the conspiracy theories about this event to spend themselves, release the entire 911 call, the body-cam footage, and all the CCTV footage availabe at the house in on the streets around the house. My prediction is that we will never be given any of this because it doesn't support the narrative that the Democrats immediately seized on- that DePape is a right-winger who carefully planned and executed a home invasion to kill the Speaker of the House. The footage probably shows Pelosi escorting DePape into the house with both fully clothed at some point earlier in the evening, and I assert this because if DePape broke in, why wouldn't the police want to establish this right from the start, like the next morning. It has now been 4 days, and nothing has been released to support the new narrative that started to show up yesterday with anonymous sources contradicting the original reporting that was almost surely based on the people at the scene that night. In other words, the people who got out in front of their skiis on this story weren't the people who thought it was a tryst gone bad, but instead were the Democrats who tried to blame Republicans for this attack, and who apparently did create at least two fake DePape websites to support this narrative (I myself tried finding those two public sites on the Waybackmachine, and they didn't exist until Thursday morning, and only existed for a few hours before being taken down). The other material may have been fake, too, but I can't prove that myself.
York can hope all he likes, but it is very, very likely that with the new narratives in place, the case will be resolved in such a way that DePape never goes to trial- he will either be a "suicide" or plead out for a mental health custodial sentence, and the media will lose all interest in it after next Tuesday.
False comparison. One of those things is not like the other.
You’re right. Only 40 percent of Republicans believed Barack Obama was a Kenyan Manchurian Candidate; fully two-thirds of Republicans believe the ghost of Hugo Chavez conspired with the Red Chinese to steal the 2020 election from Donald Trump (just as two-thirds of Democrats believe Vladimir Putin hacked our voting machines to steal the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton).
The good news is that most Americans are neither Republican nor Democrat and therefore have greater immunity to batshit craziness.
From Kurt Schlichter via Instapundit:
Paul Pelosi's personal lifestyle stopped being his
business the minute his political pals started accusing
us of attacking him. They could've just kept it private
and it would've faded but they had to try their big lie on
us.
No.
You don't get a free pass on that. It's on.
After the headline from the Washington Post you selected in an earlier post
Assault of Paul Pelosi was attack on democracy. The risks keep growing.
Yes, I believe we need an official enquiry into the attack, either confirming that it was a political assault, or that it wasn't but something else.
As for me, if Paul Pelosi was gay then who was that woman in the car with him when he was arrested for DUI, and why was she there?
And I hope his wife’s office wasn’t lying when they said his prognosis was for a full recovery from the surgery to repair his fractured skull.
"Now that we spread conspiracy theories for a few days, you owe us the information to disprove them.
That's some interesting logic by the right."
Not the Right claiming that the attacker was a MAGA Republican. That would be Democrats doing that. Therefore, it is important to provide evidence to disprove that this attack was, somehow, Republican-based.
God, no.
The whole thing is a huge "Look, squirrel!"
We have real, serious issues: Inflation. Oil and gas prices. The supply chain. Censorship and propaganda. The weaponization of law enforcement.
Political violence is important, but if we're going to talk about that we should be talking about cases where we know that politics motivated the attack -- like Lee Zeldin or Brett Kavanaugh -- not ones where that's just wild speculation.
“Hey, I don’t know about you, but I have a few questions, some of which could be quickly answered with a House oversight committee deposing Paul Pelosi once he recovers and, just to be sure, sending a subpoena to Grindr.”
—- Kurt Schlichter
It's entirely possible a mentally deranged man stripped off his clothes nearby and broke into Pelosi's home, potentially with a hammer he had or obtained at the home, and attacked Paul Pelosi. It's possible.
But here's a few things:
1. The back door glass is broken on the opposite side of the door handle and the glass is on the outside. And ALOT of glass is broken. Doesn't look like someone broke in that way. (Side note: Kinda shocked Pelosi didn't have security glass on a huge first floor entrance door)
2. There are cameras everywhere outside the house. Where's the footage? You can see all the cameras.
3. Where's the 911 call transcript?
...
I could go on. This is an attack on the home of the 3rd in line to the Presidency. If the attack were as straightforward as claimed, we'd see this evidence already. We'd see him charged and arraigned. We'd see Pelosi making public statements, not statements filtered through spokespeople.
So often the things you don't see, don't hear, and can't find, tell you what is true and what is not.
My primary objection to the gay prostitute version of the story is that if a multi-multimillionaire in San Francisco, the original Land of Fruits and Nuts, where discrete gay escorts with six-packs, buns of steel, and porn star penises serving the wealthy's perverse needs must be a dime a dozen, couldn't do better than a fat, ugly, probably stinky, probably infected, probably insane addict like David DePape then this country has fallen farther than I thought.
Yeah - the Leftwing hack press filled in their "facts" really quickly. Rolling Stone is a joke.
Schlichter says:
"Paul Pelosi‘s personal lifestyle stopped being his business the minute his political pals started accusing us of attacking him. They could’ve just kept it private and it would’ve faded but they had to try their big lie on us.
No.
You don’t get a free pass on that. It’s on."
The Obama birther thing was a classic example
Clinton, Hillary.
so too the 2020 election
Pelosi, Nancy et al.
We're never going to see the footage, but do you think somebody is already making the Paul Pelosi / DePape gay porn scene? Writes itself. Plus you get police showing up at the end and they could be wearing some sexy chaps too. Leather. Billy clubs. Hammers. Conflict.
Violence. Yummy!!!!
Would it be "good to see" all this?
Byron York says facts are vital to understanding. If you have an opposing view please share it.
Daniel12 and left Mark seem to have confused some other story with the Russia Russia Russia hoax.
Understandable.
Both the right and the left are throwing out conspiracies and conjectures. Nobody has the truth yet.
My best bet is that he was a left-wing nutcase in his past, and he's a right-wing nutcase now.
Also, speaking as a former prosecutor, evidence is usually not released to the public if there is still an ongoing police investigation. And that may be the case here.
Daniel12 said...
Classic 2022 American trajectory:
1. Make all sorts of insane claims
2. Demand endless documentation to prove that insane claims are wrong
3. Believe none of the documentation.
The Obama birther thing was a classic example, so too the 2020 election. It's exhausting and no Byron your random internet theories do not require others to engage.
This person wants everyone EXCEPT the people who lied about Hunter Biden's laptop to be censored.
You are a liar Daniel.
You are dishonest in action and word. Everything you say is a complete fraud and everyone is laughing at you.
There are no real people who actually think 81 million people voted for Joe Biden just like everyone knows Hunter Biden's laptop is legitimate and it shows that Joe Biden has taken millions of dollars from Russia and China.
We are watching your corrupt flailing Regime fall and we are going to remember how dishonest and ridiculous you are.
See you on the other side.
Facts are vital to understanding. Which ones? Kelly Conways ALTERNATIVE ones or facts based on reality and what really happened. Little late to pump facts as half the country now have their own idea of FACTS instilled in the great mind rape of previous years. Cmon man...
The Left are calling these allegations "baseless" now. But I don't think that word means what they think it means. If anything, Ockhams Razor suggests the rent boy story is far more likely than the "right wing intruder" story.
"good to see"?
Informative, I think. Therefore, we'll never see it. Or, let's put it this way: if we see it, we'd be a long way towards knowing what happened.
Is that bad or good?
Mark said...
Now that we spread conspiracy theories for a few days, you owe us the information to disprove them.
That's some interesting logic by the right.
“The Pelosi assailant’s Facebook page looks identical to the Facebook pages of Trump, Taylor Greene, and Boebert,” Swalwell wrote, referring to former President Donald Trump and Republican Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia and Lauren Boebert of Colorado. “All three of them have glorified violence and Depape acted on it.”
“A far right white nationalist tried to assassinate the Speaker of the House and almost killed her husband a year after violent insurrectionists tried to find her and kill her in the Capitol,” Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., tweeted Saturday. “And the Republican Party’s response is to either ignore it or belittle it.”
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., slammed House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., for his delayed response to the attack. “Yesterday, a man sharing that member’s rhetoric tried to assassinate the Speaker and her spouse,” Ocasio-Cortez tweeted Saturday.
“What has @GOPLeader said? Nothing,” Ocasio-Cortez said, referring to McCarthy. “This is who he is.”
Would it be good to see all this? In this case, yes.
It'll never happen, at least before the election, and then it'll be "old news, just move along".
Yes.
I don't necessarily think it would be good to see all of that, but I can't shake the feeling that the volume of such demands would be dialed to 11 by the press if there were a similar incident at a senior Republican politician's home.
Yes.
I notice the commenters who think this speculation is awful never bring up Russiagate where Hillary Clinton sent faked dossiers to FBI/CIA and media and we had 3 years of faked up news stories and speculation.
The Obama birther thing was a classic example, so too the 2020 election.
Let's take these as examples. Sure they could be good ones.
Did anything like this happen between Obama birther example and 2020?
Any very large news story and speculation that took about 2-3 years and in fact still has many believers?
Hmmmm, I can't think of any. Oh, right Trump was a Russian agent. That one.
I suspect we will hear some reliable information on what actually happened no sooner than November 9th. Why that date you say? No reason. No reason at all.
I suspect we will hear some reliable information on what actually happened no sooner than November 9th. Why that date you say? No reason. No reason at all.
DLNE said...
When things get political, always good to provide the raw data for people to see. I don't trust anyone to tell me what actually happened. I assume it was a breaking and entering, followed by an assault. I also assume the raw info will back up these assumptions.
If tbat's what you assume at this point- you're hopelessly naive.
Daniel12 said...
Classic 2022 American trajectory:
1. Make all sorts of insane claims
2. Demand endless documentation to prove that insane claims are wrong
3. Believe none of the documentation.
The Obama birther thing was a classic example, so too the 2020 election. It's exhausting and no Byron your random internet theories do not require others to engage.
Could have been solved with Obama simply presenting his actual long form Hawaii birth certificate. AFAIK, that still hasn't been seen. Now do proof of Russian collusion- which tens (or is hundreds?) of millions of dollars and years of investigations have failed to find.
And on documentaion- sure would love to see some proving the VAX (you know which one) is really safe and effective and keeps you from getting the dreaded you know what. Oh, wait, thsi isn't Facebook. Keeps you from getting covid.
BTW, from statistics, it seems the children with RSV being hospitalized are mostly vaccinated against the dreaded covid. Adn here I was thinking it was solely because we kept the young isolated for two years...
https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/evidence-suggests-the-covid-shots
Transparency.
What’s not to like?
I really, really want to read the initial police report. You know. The one that was written before the shift captain edited it.
Mark just doesn't like the mental image this conjour's up. Two men in their white zombies sweaty, breathing hard,(post coitus?) ,facing each other with hammers. The Pelosi is are hero so Mark and this behavior is sacriligious.
One question. Ball peen or claw?
Harun, and if you recall the Russia hoax began with the big lie that Trump hired prostitutes to pee on him while on the specific bed that Obama used while traveling to Russia. In 2016, Democrats thought such speculation was reasonable and important so long as it was only speculation. Actual verifying the story by even checking travel by Trump? Nah, speculation is more fun. I see many on the right asking for verification today, such as noted in the OP.
Someone above asked about two calls confusing “welfare check” and 9-11 call. Assuming Pelosi’s side of the story and what has been told about the 9-11 call, if Paul Pelosi feared triggering the DePaul and therefore was coy in how he presented the situation to 9-11, then 9-11 would ask a police unit to drive to location and do a “welfare check” on the resident. That’s very ordinary and speaks to one call then one unit responding. The confusing part is an assumption that a security detail would be present for the Speaker, even when she is not there. With 435 Representatives, I hope we are not providing security for spouses or property with out a specific imminent threat. Then again, the President himself suggested a specific imminent threat about two months ago, so what did he know?
The story is still inexplicably strange. What kind of assassin doesn't bring a weapon to the assassination? How did he break in? Did he break in?
Yes it would be good to see.
Who doesn't want to see two men in their underwear fighting over a hammer?
"You can't handle the truth!"
Said no honest investigator, ever.
It's instructive and more than a little amusing to see the lumpen-Leftoids screeching about baseless allegations now.
I told my D and Left F&F in 2016 that if Trump was colluding with Putin I wanted to know about it . . . Same-same here. Let's see what you got.
That's the point.
“Actually, that would point to not making baseless insane claims, then expecting people to rush to disprove them. Which is the point.”
You may wish to share that with your far-left brethren.
To be consistent.
The FBI and SF admin will never let this info out. Just like the Rich fellow.
The FBI and SF authorities will never let this info out. Just like the Rich fellow.
My prediction: The officer's bodycam will reveal something similar to that scene in The Shining with the man in the bear costume.
Yes, we need to know how a psychotic person gained entry to the Speaker’s home. And why did Pelosi put his life in danger by exiting the bathroom after his 911 call.
Didn’t read the comments, but why are folks interested in this? An old man and a young man in their tighty whities. Another man in the house. Two plus two equals a sexual tryst. And the leftists make this an assault on democracy? Grasping at straws idiots. Paul wanted something but got a hammer instead. That’s on Paul.
It would be "good" to see this since the Democrats have declared this to be an attempted political assassination and that all Republicans are to blame. This is no small thing. If this has been another Mr. Pelosi is drunk again story then we could let it slide, but they made it a political issue and they cannot just drop it and pretend it never happened. The fact that the story keeps changing makes this all the worse.
If you were to make me guess, the more likely scenarios are:
1. This was a hookup that went wrong
2. This was a drug deal gone wrong
3. This was someone drugged someone else that went wrong (not those ever go right)
4. Some combination of the above
The official story sounds like BS.
"And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free" is carved in stone in the Original Headquarters Building (OHB) of the Central Intelligence Agency.
Wikipedia
"Good"? No. Necessary, yes.
Actually, that would point to not making baseless insane claims
Good advice. Why don't you guys try it for a change?
Donald Trump has been spreading The Big Lie for 2 years. The violent assault on Paul Pelosi and the attempt to murder Speaker Pelosi is directly related to that Lie. Donald Trump is 100% responsible for this and Jan.6. He must be indicted and never be allowed to hold office.
Gee.
I wonder what the left is trying to accomplish by arguing that DePape is a Republican/Trump supporter.
Scott Adams did an excellent job of dismantling both the left’s and right’s spin on this event today.
I suggest you watch his livestream today. One of the things I like about Adams is he forces me to re-examine my views.
He also said this about Biden’s attempts to scapegoat the GOP for this incident: “Joe Biden is a piece of shit.”
So the current story, courtesy of KQED the SF branch of NPR, is that dePape was equipped with duct tape and zip ties.
Can't wait to see where the story goes next! So exciting!
"Good"? No. Necessary, yes. Likely? No.
No matter what the video shows, half the country already assume it is a lie.
When first you deem fit to judge, label, parade, and play with double-edged scalpels.
That said, it's a local problem that does not merit national attention.
Has DePape killed himself yet?
Don't worry. The Pelosi's Michael Clayton has done his work and all evidence contradicting the preferred narrative has been cleaned up or removed and replaced.
There was only one hammer, right? If so, whose was it? What if it was Pelosi's, and he attacked DuPape with it; they struggled for it, DuPape grabbed it and then hit Pelosi?
Also, police reaction once they were on scene seems strange, and very slow.
Has DePape killed himself yet?
The "burden" of evidence self-aborts in darkness would be fashionably-forward.
To see the basis for the charges, download the Vartain affidavit at https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/man-charged-assault-and-attempted-kidnapping-following-breaking-and-entering-pelosi-residence
I swear, you can't attend a single republican rally anywhere without all the Berkeley-based gay nudist BLM-supporting commune-dwelling Mega MAGA supporters showing up.
And you just know they all have hawaiian shirts in the trunks of their small electric/pedal cars.
Good Morning America juxtaposed footage of the Pelosi home with J6 participants in n the Capitol building. I wonder why.
THIS....
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/wayne-root-paul-pelosi-story-new-jussie-smollett-fraud-new-hunter-biden-laptop-scandal/
Much as I am appalled by politicians and journalists immediately linking this attack to total strangers on the other side of the country to try to score political points, and much as I am disgusted by the same people ignoring, dismissing, and denying the extreme, more violent, longer, higher body count and property destruction wrought politically by leftist Democrats, it doesn't seem odd to me that the assailant, a known mentally ill drug addict, would break into a house unclothed, use a hammer for a weapon, and allow his victim to use the bathroom. It doesn't seem odd that an elderly man sleeps in his underwear. It doesn't seem odd that he used the word "friend" as a coded signal to 911 to alert them to danger. That's part of normal training for both public figures and 911 operators. Even the glass broken from the inside could be explained by the fact that a nutcase with a hammer was wandering around the house.
All this said, the Democrats' misuse of a crime committed against an elderly man to condemn and groundlessly smear their opponents is cold fascism.
It's going to take a whole lot of radical transparency to restore a high level of trust in our institutions, both governmental and cultural. I agree with York; public access to the complete dataset would be good for current society. I also would be my house it won't happen.
DePape is an illegal alien from Canada. Who had that on their Grindr bingo card?
What Tina Trent said @ 4:12 PM
@Shouting Thomas,
"Scott Adams did an excellent job of dismantling both the left’s and right’s spin on this event today."
Could you give a tl;dr version? I'm a fan of Adams, but won't have time to watch for awhile.
i keep being puzzled over the idea of a third floor condo. where was this 'porch" who answered the door.
maybe this as not correct facts, but what is true?
wendybar,
What Tina Trent said @ 4:12 PM
Seconded! Er, thirded :-)
The idea of there being or not being another person in the apartment could be explained by another person being in the building to let the police in but not being in the apartment itself. It could be that someone who lived in the building was alarmed by noises, and was in the foyer or hall or even in the apartment, but wasn't considered part of the Pelosi entourage.
With safety glass it can be difficult for a non-expert to be sure about whether a window was broken from the outside or the inside based on just a cursory examination. At this point there's too little information and too much that's not known for anyone to say with any certainty what happened. But rest assured, in the weeks and months to come all this will not be cleared up and explained.
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