Writes Senator Rick Scott in "Washington versus Republican voters" (Washington Examiner).
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"Unfortunately, many of the very people responsible for losing the Senate last cycle are now trying to stop us from winning the majority this time by trash-talking our Republican candidates...."
"[W]hen you complain and lament that we have 'bad candidates,' what you are really saying is that you have contempt for the voters who chose them.... Much of Washington's chattering class disrespects and secretly (or not so secretly) loathes Republican voters.
These self-appointed 'smart guys' in Washington think they (not the voters) should be able to choose our candidates.... While the media and Washington want to try and tear down our candidates, voters put forward incredible people to serve in the Senate: a world-renowned doctor, a Heisman trophy winner and successful businessman, a small businessman and congressman from a farming community, a bestselling author who has shown the struggles in America from drug addiction, a successful tech entrepreneur, an Iraq War veteran who served two terms as state attorney general, a successful construction company entrepreneur, and a nurse who has fought for change at the VA so our heroes get the care they deserve.... [W]e will take control of the Senate this fall.... And when we do, we will be in a position to stop this confused and ridiculous president from further damaging our great country...."
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Establishment Republicans, establishment Democrats, too, no more forward-thinking, bitter clinging, wicked solutions of past, present, and progressive policies. Think of the People and "our Posterity" united with common principle, purpose, and life under the Declaration and Constitution.
Hmm, I just a moment ago I read an op-ed by Hershel Walker decrying the trash talk of Democrats. And here we have Tim Scott and the trash-talking Democrats.
Both are in the Washington Examiner, so maybe it's the same ghost writer. But still, I'm sensing a theme.
He's casting it as good versus evil rather than as the battle of soap opera narratives that it is.
Wait, I see Rick Scott is bemoaning trash-talking Republicans. Still, after a lifetime of not hearing that word used in politics, suddenly it's twice in under 5 minutes.
Rick Scott is right.
The These self-appointed 'smart guys' are why we had Bob Dole, Mitt Romney, John McCain, both George Bush's and Gerald Ford. John Boehner, Denny Hastert, Trent Lott, Eric Cantor, and Dick Cheney...among others.
I dunno. I can think of a few dozen reasons to not listen to the 'experts' and try to go it without them. Our system was not supposed to be run only by Yale and Harvard law grads.
BTW- The Democrat list is even more cringe inducing. Right, Nancy?
Based on a couple of interviews makes me wonder whether Scott might be toying with the idea of challenging Cocaine Mitch.
Rick Scott is Satan incarnate and I am a Florida ultra-conservative. It's corrupt insiders like Scott that we need to rid Washington of.
As Glenn Reynolds often says, America has the worst ruling class in history. I cannot think of a single government failure of the past 50 years where anyone was actually held responsible for the failure. That's because the elites of this country protect each other from the consequences of their actions.
I have a friend who is a bundler for Republicans. He wouldn’t personally vote Republican on a bet. Talk with him for an hour and voting will seem pointless.
Mitch McConnell is working hard to continue as Minority Leader where the money rolls in almost as fast as it does for Majority leaders. And it's less work.
But are those candidates from the Washington insider Ivy League? If not, then they are deplorable.
I dunno why Scott doesn't name names. He's talking about Mitch McConnell among others. Along with the usual Nevertrumper crowd and Fake Cons that show up in the MSM and the pages of the Wapo and NYTs.
McConnell and his gang, have shown in the past, that they'd rather be a minority in the Senate with themselves in charge, then a majority with the "Wrong sort" of Republican Senator. McConnell threw away a Senate seat in 2017, when we had a slim 53-47 majority because he didn't like Roy Moore. Result: We came within a ace of losing Kavanaugh.
McConnell also tried to sabotage all the Tea Party candidates.
Rightwingers need to understand there is zero point in nominating some "electable" RINO. First, they might lose. Second, even if they're elected you're stuck with a backstabbing RINO who will "Cross the aisle" to help the Democrats. You might as well nominate a real Rightwinger, and he wins great. And if he loses, you aren't any worse off, then if you'd gotten a RINO.
People in Alaska need to vote D, and deny Lisa Murky the seat. You can get it back in six years with a real conservative, instead of a 60% liberal.
Mitch McConnell has been Senate R leader for 14 years. what has he ever done except cut bad deals with the Democrats, and sabotage Trump when he had the majority?
He should be the defacto leader of the R party. But he's not, because he nobody likes him, except the R Establishment, and the DC Republicans.
The biggest grift in the world is being in the minority.
You get to cut deals with the majority and target where the cash goes in exchange for votes.
You can fund-raise all day; 'If you elect us next time we will...'
You can bitch and moan about how terrible the other side is without having to do anything.
It's the best gig in DC.
The difference to my first comment is this, when the Ds do get power, they use it ruthlessly.
"I cannot think of a single government failure of the past 50 years where anyone was actually held responsible for the failure."
Taxpayers have been held responsible for almost all of them.
MAGA voters are wrestling the Republican Party way from the established GOP leadership. It's a commendable effort. MAGA is taking on corruption and totalitarianism head on. Calling out bullshit for what it is. Bullshit. Odd's are we will lose, but at least we went down swinging. We outwardly claim and call out the leadership of "our" party as corrupt.
Unlike Democrats who bow the the Dem Party corrupt leadership and go along with every sheeple order and suggestion.
"Grandpa, what did you do during the great divorce?"
"Well dear, I did whatever they told me to do on the nightly news. I got vaccinated six times, and still caught COVID twice...but I was still thankful for the vaccine. I helped Grandma take her entire class of third graders to a tranny strip show. It was wonderful. I'm still most proud of the Ukraine Flag on all my social media profiles. And look here. It's the mask I wore in public until 2026 to let people know I was a good person, and probably much better than them. It was a great time to be alive. I don't remember having much fun though. I still keep the mask in my pocket...just in case. I miss the ol' days."
“Our system was not supposed to be run only by Yale and Harvard law grads.”
Let’s see, the world-renowned doctor went to Harvard, the best-selling author went to Yale, the successful tech entrepreneur went to Stanford, the Iraq War veteran who served two terms as state attorney general is the son and grandson of U.S. Senators - I think the Republican establishment has it covered.
Info to us to resonate d to the Republican parties request for donations, “Not one penny while Mitch McConnell is in leadership”.
I give directly to candidates. Without going through the Republican donation portal.
He's not wrong. They are not professionally slick, but compare their mistakes to Kamala or Brandon. Who is not sick of hearing, "We're working with these agencies and our partners and first responders and the international community to bring attention to (fill in the subject)" How refreshing to hear, "if he ever ate a vegetable he wouldn't have had a stroke."
"In every disaster, there always seem to be a Harvard men in it somewhere."
rcocean, 2:37:
"what has [McConnell] ever done except cut bad deals with the Democrats, and sabotage Trump when he had the majority?"
Keep Merrick Garland off the Supreme Court, in a pure Because I can, and you assholes would do the same in my shoes, power move.
Besides that, I agree (only somewhat, and reluctantly) with the commentator who said McConnell consistently advances the most conservative viable position under the circumstances.
"McConnell threw away a Senate seat in 2017, when we had a slim 53-47 majority because he didn't like Roy Moore."
Yes. And Trump threw away two in 2020, bringing the Dems to 50 plus the VP.
I agree with JPS. McConnell has done a good job with the cards he has had in his hand.
As someone who wants conservative legislative outcomes, I am weary as f a determined delusional minority of Republican primary voters, lavishly if surreptitiously funded (and supported with cross-over voting) by canny Democratic voters playing the game at a much higher level, continue to give me candidates like the crackpot Sharon Angle, that other woman who was "not a witch", and Todd Akin, who thought a woman wouldn't get pregnant by her rapist if she just held her breath. Now we have the feckless Dr. Oz (who won his primary by 400 Democratic votes), the sure loser Blake Masters, the probable loser Herschel Walker. And others.
I'm no fan of Mitt Romney, but he'll give me the vote I want 90% of the time. The Democrat that will be in the Senate instead of the above-named Republican nominees will give me the vote zero percent of the time. For those of you who are the most rabid...enjoy the ride.
I agree with JPS. McConnell has done a good job with the cards he has had in his hand.
As someone who wants conservative legislative outcomes, I am weary as f a determined delusional minority of Republican primary voters, lavishly if surreptitiously funded (and supported with cross-over voting) by canny Democratic voters playing the game at a much higher level, continue to give me candidates like the crackpot Sharon Angle, that other woman who was "not a witch", and Todd Akin, who thought a woman wouldn't get pregnant by her rapist if she just held her breath. Now we have the feckless Dr. Oz (who won his primary by 400 Democratic votes), the sure loser Blake Masters, the probable loser Herschel Walker. And others.
I'm no fan of Mitt Romney, but he'll give me the vote I want 90% of the time. The Democrat that will be in the Senate instead of the above-named Republican nominees will give me the vote zero percent of the time. For those of you who are the most rabid...enjoy the ride.
Trump didn't throw away 2 senate seats in GA. Both were piss poor candidates, one of them was picked by Kemp.
THey are the ones who threw away their seats. And mitch mcconnell. Why didn't Mitch go down with Mitt Romney and campaign for them?
Trump campaigned in GA for those two clowns. Neither had the sense to support a recount of GA votes like Trump asked. Neither supported Trump's $2000 covid relief plan, both supported H-1B expansion and overriding Trump's veto of the NDAA. In December, Perdue was bragging to jewish voters (caught on tape) about how he looked forward to working with Biden.
IN 2022, Perdue wanted to run again, and no one wanted him. His run for Governor was a disaster. He lost his Senate seat because he wanted to be Mitch's Bitch, and listen to Erick Erickson. A total Republican Establishment LOSER.
That's a lot of big talk from a chap who thought Republicans' opening argument during the midterms ought to be that poor people don't pay enough taxes.
I mean, it might be true, and points for honesty if he believes it -- that's how you get a mandate to do hard but necessary things, But if we're talking about winning, it was political malpractice to say it. Fulminating against other Republicans isn't going to erase his error.
Anyone can like Mitt Romney. If you're a liberal/moderate RINO, support him. if you like Liberal Leftism with some Globalist, Big Business love, go vote for him.
Just don't pretend he's good for the Republican Party or believes in social conservativism, enforcing the Immigration laws, looking out for the American worker, or appointing Scalia/Thomas like judges. Or keeping out of useless wars and conflicts. Romney would have us at war in the Ukraine - USA planes attacking the Russians - and still fighting in Afghanistan.
If it had been up to Mittens Trump would've dropped out in Oct 2016 and gave Hillary the Presidency. He was happy as a pig in shit, when Biden won. He spends all his time attacking other Republicans and cozying up to the Liberal/left MSM.
He's Democrat lite. Invade the world, invite the world. If he was honest, he'd run as a Democrat. But he's not. He's a liar and a sanctimoneous con man.
The "True Conservative" or "Establishment Republican" Scam:
2012: We can't have purity tests. Sure Romney only believes in 65% of the Republican platform or conservatism but that's better than Obama. We need a big Tent!
2016: Fuck Trump. I'm OK with Hillary winning. Trump is too populist. Country above Party.
2020: I'm OK with Biden winning. Trump's too populist and I don't like the cut of his jib. Counry before party.
2022: We can't have purity tests. Sure Mitch is only 59% conservative, but that's better than Schumer. We need a big tent.
" I think the Republican establishment has it covered."
And when we throw them out, you accuse us of treason.
Bravo, Rick Scott!
Balfegor: "But if we're talking about winning, it was political malpractice to say it. Fulminating against other Republicans isn't going to erase his error."
Except it was the idiot McConnell who was fulminating against republicans that led to Scott's reactive comments.
Any thoughts on that? (Unless I missed it).
rcocean: "Trump didn't throw away 2 senate seats in GA. Both were piss poor candidates, one of them was picked by Kemp.
THey are the ones who threw away their seats. And mitch mcconnell. Why didn't Mitch go down with Mitt Romney and campaign for them?
Trump campaigned in GA for those two clowns. Neither had the sense to support a recount of GA votes like Trump asked. Neither supported Trump's $2000 covid relief plan, both supported H-1B expansion and overriding Trump's veto of the NDAA. In December, Perdue was bragging to jewish voters (caught on tape) about how he looked forward to working with Biden."
Worth repeating.
Kemp and the loathsome Zuckerberg fan-boy Raffensberger with a staff full of pro-dem corruptocrats stood there in the wake of the dems "in your face" cheating and sent a clear signal that they were'nt even going to admit the dems were pulling vote scams in Fulton Co.
Thats what turned off the rural conservative voters in GA for the runoff.
And then that POS Raffensberger and his staff went Full Schiff-mode with their hoaxed up phone call "recollections", gleefully seized upon by the media and Team Sham-peachment II, up until an actual transcript of the call was released and showed Raffensberger's ebtire staff to be a bunch of Vindman's.
So naturally, the nice, polite, respectful and graceful GOPe-ers adore them.
JPS: "Besides that, I agree (only somewhat, and reluctantly) with the commentator who said McConnell consistently advances the most conservative viable position under the circumstances."
Was it "the most conservative viable position under the circumstances" to help dems target the Tea Party, frame Donald Trump with collusion lies, help dems undermine Trump on ChiCom trade policy (for obvious family income from ChiCom shipbuilding reasons), undercut wall funding, etc?
And dont tell me McConnell wasn't perfectly cool with McCain going thumbs down on chucking obamacare.
as opposed to the 87,000 locusts that sinema and manchin unleashed on the people
Most of the candidates from each party are pretty lame.
Pennsylvania US Senate race is between Shrek and Oz for fuck’s sake.
I give DeSantis credit for distinguishing himself during Covid. He took a reasonable approach when almost all the other governors were terrible.
Trump was also pretty bad during Covid. Biden has been awful.
Of the national politicians, DeSantis has been the best. He kept Florida open as much as possible and kept the schools open. Abbott also did a good job.
Re: Drago:
Any thoughts on that? (Unless I missed it).
My thought is that Rick Scott is not a convincing or credible messenger for "[X] is costing us the election." There's a lot of Republican senators, most of whom could complain about McConnell (or Trump or Cheney or whoever) without also having committed a conspicuous and elementary electoral blunder so obviously damaging to the interests of his party that his colleagues rushed to shut him down. Like, if you're Rick Scott, maybe have one of those colleagues be the one criticising McConnell if you're really looking out for the Republican party. Maybe think hard about motes and beams and just do what you can to affirmatively help out the candidates who may be struggling.
But at the strategic (or tactical?) level, it's way too early to give the press a hook for a bunch of stories about Republicans blaming each other for electoral disaster. Should McConnell be complaining about candidate quality? Well, no -- he ought to wait for them to actually lose before trying to blame a loss on those darn primary voters. And not leave them high and dry on financial support unless there is some other critical race that unexpectedly needs defending.
But does Rick "taxes are too low" Scott complaining about McConnell do anything to improve Republicans' electoral prospects? No. Keep it behind closed doors if you can't keep it to yourself.
Gosh, I get sick and tired of all the self-described "conservatives" (or "Trumpsters") whining about the Republican RINOs! Hey guys and gals, we have a TWO-PARTY system. You don't want to bother to vote for your local RINO candidate? Then you're supporting the Democrat candidate, you're supporting Joe "I did that" Biden. Look at what a tiny Democrat majority has been able to get through the House -- hugely expensive radical programs. Two (TWO!) Democrat Senators paused part of the disaster, although it as still awfully destructive to our country and economy. But the odds favor a real Democrat Senate after this election. If you let the Dems control the House again, then you'll own the disaster, not me.
I vote in Republican primaries. I vote for the most conservative viable Republican candidate (do you think Wm F. Buckley was a RINO?). In the general election I vote for the Republican candidate, no matter how long the line is, come Hell or high water (because Hell and high water is what the election of a Democrat will lead to). You should, too.
I think Biden's speech writer got his script from one of Joseph Goebbels's speeches....
And no doubt he is waiting for people to give him a Hitler salute and call him "Mein Fuhrer"!
There is the uniparty that disarms the people that ships our whole arsenal to ukraine that gives at least a dozen votes to the worst bidem nominees
I think what he is really saying is that they are going to lose because they are bad candidates. Contempt separate.
Hmm, I just a moment ago I read an op-ed by Hershel Walker decrying the trash talk of Democrats. And here we have Tim Scott and the trash-talking Democrats.
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trash talking will definitely improve "Greatest Deliberative Body" in the Universe : honesty at last
Balfegor: "Maybe think hard about motes and beams and just do what you can to affirmatively help out the candidates who may be struggling."
When it comes to not supporting the winner of the republican primary in the general, ALL the "beams" are in the eyes of the GOPe-ers and only "motes" can be found in the eyes of conservative/populist republicans.
rcocean captured that dynamic perfectly upthread.
So spare us the fake party unity lectures that always ONLY run in one direction.
Its unbelievable how you only tossed in minor criticism of the leader of the republicans in the Senate for his quite public trashing of the republican candidates but then you came down like a ton of bricks on a republican who responded to that!
Actually, its all too believable.
I wonder if its time for team Romney to find another BLM March to join?
Rick Scott was a big positive surprise in Florida. The guy is a lot more articulate and focused than he was running for Governor. He works hard and understands politics. No fireworks, just works. And it appears that the thing that turned off voters at first -- his distance and solitary ways -- are also strengths when it comes to how he handles teamwork and winning. If someone can survive going to DC and not losing his marbles or his soul, I say we at least take a closer look at him for higher office.
Sorry Drago, you work with what you've got. Also, Kelly Loeffler was fearless. She sacrificed her lifelong passion, lost her basketball team, stood up for free speech like a barn on fire, almost alone in DC, and big babies like whatever Steve Bannon has morphed into and professional crooks like Jenny Beth Martin talked a bigger bunch of babies into staying home on election day, and that's why we lost the Senate. I never liked David Perdue's establishment hoggery, but I'd crawl over broken glass to vote for him. And the treatment of Loeffler was fact free and idiotically uninformed. She was doing a great job. She is a great conservative. Doltish GOP establishment soccer moms turned on her too, in a whine-fuelled catfight, which also didn't help.
Kemp has been courageous on issues in Georgia. He spent a hell of a lot of political clout to hold the GOP together. He didn't deserve the treatment Trump doled out. He's our last stand against going blue, and we already worked our asses off to overcome Abrams et.al. without this nonsense making it harder.
I travelled the state urging so-cons to vote for Trump, helped prevent the 9th district coup by leftitarians manipulating Cruz fanatics, and I would do it for him again, even though he screwed us over on our number one issue. I'll vote for him again, not take my toys home and pout because he broke campaign promises and lost his own race.
If you believe in the issues, you fight for them, not try to curate your feelings on election day by sitting at home or writing some loser's name on the ballot to feel virtuous like Rod Dreher.
Don't bring a binky to a knife fight.
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