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Who is censoring Jamie Foxx?

Maybe, like me, you heard Bill Maher, on his HBO show this week, expressing outrage that "gatekeepers" were refusing to release a Jamie Foxx movie. 

Initially scheduled for a February 16, 2018 release to coincide with that year’s NBA All-Star Game, “All-Star Weekend” has yet to make it into theaters..... 
In a recent interview with CinemaBlend, Foxx provided a brief, cryptic answer to the mystery. “Man, it’s been tough, with the lay of the land when it comes to comedy, man,” Foxx told CinemaBlend. “We’re trying to break open those sensitive corners where people go back to laughing again.” 
No word on what exactly “those sensitive corners” are in “All-Star Weekend,” but it may have something to do with Robert Downey Jr.’s role in the film. Much like his performance in 2008’s “Tropic Thunder,” where he donned black-face, Downey Jr. plays a Mexican in the unreleased movie.... 
Foxx talked about the film and Downey Jr.’s role in it back in 2017 during an appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience podcast.... "Robert Downey Jr. plays a Mexican. I called Robert and I said, ‘Listen, I need you to play a Mexican.’ He said, ‘Dude, here’s the deal. Sure. F*ck it. Sure. Why not? F*ck it. Sure. Of course. Mexican. Whatever.'” Downey Jr. did express reservations to Foxx about his role later on, though, as Foxx said that he got a text from Downey Jr. saying, “I’m afraid to play the Mexican.”... 
So, will “All-Star Weekend” ever see the light of day...? It doesn’t look likely, as the film had projected releases in 2019 and 2021, but at this point, it’s indefinitely shelved. Foxx keeps up high hopes for an eventual release, though, telling CinemaBlend that test audiences loved the film. “The one thing we kept hearing in the screenings was how much people were laughing,” he said. “So, hopefully, we’ll keep them laughing and run them into “All-Star Weekend,” because we were definitely going for it.”

So who's holding it back? Is it not Foxx himself? 

You may have noticed the Daily Beast headline, "B.J. Novak Shuts Down Bill Maher’s ‘Cancel Culture’ Nonsense":

“Lately we’ve been talking a lot about on this show—we’re gonna talk about it tonight—the freedom in the arts,” offered Maher.... “You know, you’ve written some episodes of… The Office which they don’t show now. I see Jamie Foxx’s new movie was shelved—I guess he made it a few years ago, but they’re not gonna ever show it. They make less comedies. I mean, you found a way to make a comedy about something, but I’m sure you have to be very careful about a lot of different things. They’re making less because it’s so not worth it to even try. Where are you on that?” 

Novak wasn’t so convinced of Maher’s theory. “I think there’s a difference between the gatekeepers and the audience—and I think you see this firsthand as a stand-up. The audiences, I think, are pretty down for everything,” he said. “They’re pretty smart people, and can be trusted a lot more than the gatekeepers sometimes worry. The gatekeepers are worried about the chatter in their own spheres, but I think audiences can be trusted to be pretty smart.” 

“But it’s not in the hands of the audience,” shot back Maher. 

“That’s what I’m saying,” replied Novak. “I’m saying, I don’t think the problem is that the audiences are too sensitive. I think the problem is that people are worried that other people are too sensitive.” ...

I don't see a big difference between what Bill Maher and B.J. Novak were saying. The gatekeepers are anticipating a reaction from some part of the audience, and they hold the product back because they don't want trouble. Even if most of the audience "can be trusted," there's still the vocal minority. You can certainly expect some outcry about Robert Downey Jr. playing a Mexican for laughs in a comedy. Even if most people would enjoy the fun and laugh at whatever he Downey Jr. came up with, you can trust — if you want to talk about trust — that they'll be plenty of offense and denouncements. And maybe it also just isn't a terribly good movie.

So who is sitting on it? "I see Jamie Foxx’s new movie was shelved," said Maher, using "was" to avoid saying who's doing the shelving. If Foxx — a supremely celebrated pop culture hero — is censored then everything and everyone can be censored... unless... it's Foxx himself who wants "All-Star Weekend" never to see the light of day.

Now, let's get back to Novak's big point: It's the gatekeepers. They're too timid, too easily rolled by an oversensitive subsection of the generally fun-loving and thick-skinned audience. Yes, but isn't Jamie Foxx the real gatekeeper here?

"Man, it’s been tough, with the lay of the land when it comes to comedy, man. We’re trying to break open those sensitive corners where people go back to laughing again.”

He's trying. But some sensitive corners are too sensitive to break open in this land of That's Not Funny.

ADDED: The headline at BET directly attributes the censorship to Foxx, in "Jamie Foxx Refuses To Release A Film He Directed Due To ‘Sensitive Corners’ Comedy Has In Place."

[One of the films stars Jeremy] Piven was a guest on Gary Owen’s show Get Some With Gary Owen and revealed the film will never be released due to Foxx “never” wanting to release it.

“It’s one of those things where Foxx is probably the most talented guy I’ve ever been around, known, heard of... He’s the funniest guy in the room. He can sing. There’s nothing Foxx can’t do. I had the time of my life… Foxx is really hard on himself. He’s one of these dudes, you know, he wants it to be perfect, so he’s been holding onto this thing for five years.”

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gilbar म्हणाले...

the problem is that people are worried that other people are too sensitive.” ...

this is the story of our times, isn't it?
Karen steps up, and says: "You MUST STOP This! Someone MIGHT BE Offended!!!"

Of course, you can still insult, berate, and degrade:
Christians
Republicans
Cis-White males
Fly over people in general
and, of course; Christians (these are so much Open Season, that we have to list them twice)

Because Karen doesn't LIKE Those groups, so attacking Them is A OKAY

Jaq म्हणाले...

Nearly foolproof way to find an entertaining movie is to find movies where the audience score is high and the critics' score is low. This is the opposite of what I would have thought in 2005, maybe even 2010.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The only thing the left allow in comedy is mocking and ridiculing anyone non-democrat.
So - all republicans are evil terrorists etc... that's the new 'comedy' in Nazi-Democrat-Xi-Castro(D) 'Merica.

John henry म्हणाले...

If it was supposed to be released in 2018,how is it a "new" movie?

John LGBTQ+ Henry

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

"Sure. F*ck it. Sure. Why not? F*ck it. Sure. Of course. Mexican. Whatever."

Wow is Downey Jr. Me? I always say that when someone suggests Mexican.

Jaq म्हणाले...

"Ars gratia artis" may be one movie studio's motto, but it's no longer any major studio's credo.

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

"Sure. F*ck it. Sure. Why not? F*ck it. Sure. Of course. Chinese. Whatever."

The worst part of Downey Jr. playing a Chinese would be he'd probably muck it up so bad he'd need to do it all over again 15 minutes later.

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

Cancelled Louis CK is releasing his movie via his own website.

Link to Joe Rogan video with comedian CK

Achilles म्हणाले...

Fascists have a dilemma.

Do you take away guns or humor first?

who-knew म्हणाले...

Boy, that Daily Beast headline sure mangles the point of the Maher/Novak exchange.

Heartless Aztec म्हणाले...

We were driving back through the Texas Hill country last year - two lane roads coast to coast - and we stopped in good sized antique store owned and operated by a woman from Manchester, England. She adored everything about Texas except Houston. We feel the same. Wonderful people in the Hill Country even if they do barbeque the wrong animal wonderfully

Tom T. म्हणाले...

John Leguizamo recently complained about the decision to cast James Franco as Fidel Castro. Franco looks a lot like a young Castro, but he's not Latino.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

"The gatekeepers are anticipating a reaction from some part of the audience"

Of course, the right, i.e., left part.

Since the gatekeepers favor that part, they use the anticipated reaction for prog purposes.

Only some kinds of offense are worth the trouble. Righties are never "harmed."

Wa St Blogger म्हणाले...

Maybe they can release it in Texas. Skip the left coasts who would never spend one dime on it anyway; no way, Jose(?)

Brian McKim and/or Traci Skene म्हणाले...

"B.J. Novak Shuts Down Bill Maher’s ‘Cancel Culture’ Nonsense"

From what I see here, nobody shot nothing down.

narciso म्हणाले...

franco is extremely stupid, and Fidel is not,

Brian McKim and/or Traci Skene म्हणाले...

"Cancel culture nonsense."

Christopher B म्हणाले...

The gate that keeps content from being released is the same gate that keeps audiences from viewing the content. Same gate, same gatekeepers, same lock-the-gate reaction to a vocal minority that may or may not even be the audience in terms of consumption as opposed to the ginned-up mob being told the movie is something they need to be angry about. Foxx just has a different perspective because he's on the creator side of the gate. Getting creators to self-censor is part of the plan.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne म्हणाले...

“They’re pretty smart people, and can be trusted a lot more than the gatekeepers sometimes worry. The gatekeepers are worried about the chatter in their own spheres, but I think audiences can be trusted to be pretty smart.”

I agree with Novak. You won't get anyone to admit it, but the sophisticated, urbane, cosmopolitan Hollywood crowd (who probably all claim to be atheist) are vastly more sensitive to perceived impropriety on their part than the most rabid Evangelical Christians in the hinterlands.

Also, it's about time some of these people internalized the concept that there will always be a vocal minority that gets vocal because they see a payday in it, want attention, or have a bruised ego because Jamie Foxx made a hit movie and they didn't.

Wilbur म्हणाले...

Per a site named Indiewire.com:
"Co-star (Jeremy) Piven said during “Get Some with Gary Owen” that Foxx is “really hard on himself” and wants the film to be “perfect” before its release. “He’s been holding onto this thing for five years,” Piven said."

Whatever.

Lurker21 म्हणाले...

You can certainly expect some outcry about Robert Downey Jr. playing a Mexican for laughs in a comedy.

You never go full José Jiménez.

JAORE म्हणाले...

Carry this forward. Does anyone support:

No straight people for gay characters = no gay people playing straight characters.

No POC in films set in historic pieces where black people were virtually absent.

No warrior rolls for non-vets.

No thirty somethings playing high school kids.

No actors below 60 playing older rolls.

No black or women playing 007 (the books are clear who James Bond was).

THIS WAY LEADS TO MADNESS.

Of course no one will apply the madness evenly.

Rabel म्हणाले...

If you like you can see the Downey character at the IMDB site. Scroll through the photo section. He's the guy with long hair and a hat in a couple of the pics towards the end.

Darkisland म्हणाले...

Is it OK to have a Puerto Rican (Jose ferrer) play a Frenchman (Cyrano)?

Since both are "latino" I guess it's all good. The French are latino, right?

Great movie btw. Well worth a watch especially for Ferrer's Oscar winning performance.

John LGBTQ+Henry

William म्हणाले...

The willing suspension of disbelief. It's arbitrary and the contract with the audience is subject to change. Shakespeare's audience accepted that female leads were played by adolescent males. That's borderline pervy in my book, but that's the way it went. When I was young, married couples slept in separate beds.
Nowadays, slender young women routinely take on heavyweight bouncers and leave them broken on the floor. I guess that's no more ridiculous than married couples in twin beds. You just accept it and enjoy the show. It strikes me as jarring and unbelievable, but I'm from a different generation.....Race is more problematic than sex. The kindly old Kentucky Colonel now has to be portrayed as a proto Nazi. His domestic help have to be sharper than Figaro and two steps ahead of him at all times. In places other than the Old South, especially Europe, Blacks are part of the aristocracy and racial differences, if they exist at all, are minimal. Sure, why not. The easiest and most effective way of handling class and racial differences is just to ignore them.

James K म्हणाले...

The gatekeepers are anticipating a reaction from some part of the audience, and they hold the product back because they don't want trouble.

It's akin (in reverse) to the bureaucrats who force "gender-free" restrooms on everyone in deference to the 1% of the populace that actually cares about it, oblivious to the 99% who find it uncomfortable. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Spiros Pappas म्हणाले...

Anthony Quinn (Mexican) was a perfect Italian in his Italian movies. He also created the character of Zorba the Greek. Actors don't need to be an exact ethnic match to their roles. It is bizarre to complain about this.

Freeman Hunt म्हणाले...

Enough catering to the wussiest among us.

effinayright म्हणाले...

With American actors playing violent and depraved Mexican drug cartel members in 18 seasons of "Breaking Bad" and "Better Call Saul", one would think an American depicting a funny Mexican would be a "No Biggie".

So...WTF?

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Former Mexican president Vicente Fox is a 6' 4" Spaniard...

What is a Mexican?

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

'With American actors playing violent and depraved Mexican drug cartel members in 18 seasons of "Breaking Bad" and "Better Call Saul", one would think an American depicting a funny Mexican would be a "No Biggie".'

The character Nacho is Canadian. His mother is from Guinea and his father is Arab of some sort, having lived in Germany.

What is a Mexican?

Iman म्हणाले...

Entonces…

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

I watched the revival of the play 'Oklahoma' yesterday (spoiler: it was awful).

It featured a black lead (of course), various black background actors, a traveling salesman that was supposed to be a ladies man but came off as Paul Lynde, and a heterosexual woman character played by a 6'2" 320-pound transexual.

Wake me up the next time a white 'person' of any nationality plays MLK, Jr. or Frederick Douglass...

-- Rip Van Winkle

Aggie म्हणाले...

They used to call it 'acting'. It used to rely on a temporary suspension of disbelief by the audience, the quality of which would be determined by the skill of the actor and felt as the momentary escape into the imagination, as the individuals in the audience followed the story. People used to actually enjoy the enriching experience of using their imagination.

Now it's all about demanding exact replicas that require a minimum of consideration before consumption, cows sitting in the theater chewing their popcorn cud. Poor old Lon Chaney would starve to death trying to find work, today.

Lurker21 म्हणाले...

I don't know about Nacho, but Gustavo "Gus" Fring (Giancarlo Esposito, Italian and African-American) isn't any kind of Latin American either. Hispanic or Latino, as the government keeps reminding us, isn't a race, and there are plenty of people in Latin America who look more like James Franco than John Leguizamo.

Actors of color do get more leeway in casting than Whites, but it's unclear how far that extends. I wonder, for example, about relations between African-American talent and the Africans from Africa who get so many acting jobs, and if it's just Whites who are tired of lectures from David Oyelowo.

Howard म्हणाले...

It's a great excuse for aborting a flop. Now the artists can save face by blaming cancel culture

Randomizer म्हणाले...

Who is behind cancel culture? When something is changed, blocked or removed because someone was offended, I wonder who I am supposed to call when I'm offended? We know that nobody would care.

The trans supporters have been wildly successful with their demands. Why? Most of their demands seem extreme or ridiculous. Recall the Netflix Cuties controversy. You could fall on either side of that one, but it was young girls dancing like very provocatively. Arguably quite creepy, but as I recall, Netflix didn't budge. Are the trans supporters so successful because they are brutal, chaotic and relentless? It looks that way. Is that what we want to reward?

Robert Downey Jr isn't a Mexican, so he would be acting. Following that argument, Robert Downey Jr. could only play Robert Downey Jr.