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A woman who suddenly lost her job and couldn't afford her NYC rent "took an online quiz about where to live and decided to book a flight in late 2020 to Denver..."

"... a city she had never visited. Almost two years later, [she] is still living there, with a new car and her own apartment and no plans to leave any time soon. And she would not have to: Her new job is a fully remote role with a legal tech company based in New York."

There's no link for that "online quiz about where to live." I'd like to take it.

I found this one, which told me I'd be best off living in Paris.

Then there's this one, at Buzzfeed, and it told me Portland. I'd consider Portland, Maine, but there's a picture of the characters from "Portlandia," and also if Buzzfeed just says "Portland," it's obvious. Portland, Oregon. 

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Chest Rockwell म्हणाले...

I visited Portland Maine this summer. Nice place with a bustling downtown.

Housing is super expensive though, and the winters are something else I hear.

rrsafety म्हणाले...

Portland, Maine is an amazing small city without the horrors of it’s west coast sister.

Enigma म्हणाले...

NYC = eviction moratorium = higher rents because of deadbeats = Defund the Police = crime out of control = remote work allowed the cream of the workforce to move to Florida, the Hamptons, Martha's Vineyard, Colorado, etc.

Welcome to Rust Belt 2020s

California, Illinois, and other pricey but troubled places must adapt or die.

gilbar म्हणाले...

New York City.. No one lives there anymore, it's too crowded

Lindsey म्हणाले...

This article completely ignores how a lot of housing in NYC is bought my foreigners stashing their money. The housing sits empty.

Heartless Aztec म्हणाले...

Portland, Maine is a beautiful place and it's at the end of a high speed ferry route to Nova Scotia which is reminiscent of northern California in the 1950's. I keep a sailboat there and rent cottages in the summer months. But we also keep a winter home in North Florida - a completely separate place from brochure tourist Florida.

Carol म्हणाले...

I got Helsinki.

Yet I'd like NYC or SF if I could only afford it.

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

"I found this one, which told me I'd be best off living in Paris."

Have you ever been to Paris? That quiz is probably chock full of confirmation bias based off extremely dated psychographic information, just saying.

rehajm म्हणाले...

Paywall, but I'm gonna bet the words rent control don't appear anywhere in the article. In NYC rent control has for a century destroyed the first fundamental incentive to building more housing- profit.

..I'd wager the twentysomething NYT writer (I can't see but assume all the worker bees at NYT are now all twentysomethings) is wailing about the political coddling of affluence.

I'd also reckon Donald Trump Evil makes an appearance. How'd I do?

rehajm म्हणाले...

Nobody has a fundamental right to live in the Village or SoHo...

Tina848 म्हणाले...

Denver is not cheap, either. Lots of CA residents escaping. I can only imagine she had a VERY VERY pricey NYC apartment (even by NYC standards) as Denver's rents are quite high.

Temujin म्हणाले...

I love when long-timers or lifers from New York leave and find out there are nice places and people in the rest of the world. Great foods, interesting places, history, and even just...peace. Something they'd not even considered previously. It always makes me chuckle.

Until they move into my city and start pining for those things they left behind and soon enough start voting the same way they did up there, without realizing that's what led to them moving here.

I tried taking both tests. I could not make it through either. When I had to decide between Lorde or Shakira or Bon Iver for my jams, I left. If you were suggested Portland, I'd suggest not paying attention to that test. Paris would be great. Just remember to bring your head covering. You may need it in years to come. There's always Madison.

Maynard म्हणाले...

I would also be best off living in Paris.

I am not sure how I could afford the rent, but it would be worth a try.

Fredrick म्हणाले...

Paris is a great city, better than New York, except for the New Yorkers who visit in the summer. And the graffiti and crime, which has gotten exponentially worse since Anne Hidalgo was elected.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

There are no affordable places because of rent control. Nobody invests in building apartments for a few decades.

Václav Patrik Šulik म्हणाले...

I agree with those who said Portland, Maine. (Of course, I also liked Lewiston which everyone seems to hate.)

My answers to the first quiz leads me to Miami, which I was never fond of. :-\

madAsHell म्हणाले...

The Apple store in downtown Portland is surrounded by a 15-foot high fence, and concrete blocks to stop automobiles.

Wa St Blogger म्हणाले...

I tried to take both those quizes and gave up after a few questions. Very few of the chose sets had any representation of my "vibe" and thus I knew that it could not accurately place me anywhere.

hawkeyedjb म्हणाले...

I ended up in Paris. This was funny: "Paris, with a population of about two million, is not a crowded city." Ha ha, the same size as San Francisco with three times the population...

Charlie म्हणाले...

Chest, winters in Portland Maine are milder than they are in Madison WI.

Portland is a great place to live but they entire hipster population of Brooklyn is seemingly relocating there. And the socialists have gained control of city government. Two not-so-good trends!

The Drill SGT म्हणाले...

Paris is fine. Parisians? New Yorkers on steroids...

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

“Nationwide, minimum-wage earners in 91% of counties are unable to afford a one-bedroom rental, a report found.“ - San Francisco Chronicle.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"Have you ever been to Paris?"

Yes. Twice.

Gospace म्हणाले...

rehajm said...
Paywall, but I'm gonna bet the words rent control don't appear anywhere in the article. In NYC rent control has for a century destroyed the first fundamental incentive to building more housing- profit.


I read the comments first- so this has already been said. I wouldn't take the other side of this bet.

For those who've read it behind the paywall- does it mention rent control? And if it does does- does it assign blame to it or credit it for creating some affordable units?

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Portland Or was a nice city. Now - It's a hot garbage leftist hell hole.

T J Sawyer म्हणाले...

I grew up in Portland, OR. This was a town with a serious inferiority complex since all the media thought there was only one Portland - that tiny city in Maine.

I finally visited the other Portland this past year and highly recommend it over my hometown.

That said, I spend every winter in Cairo - and no, that's not a city in Illinois.

Howard म्हणाले...

Portland Maine is a blue Island in a sea of red with a Trader Joe's and Whole Foods. You people would feel better in Banger Maine. Very few libtards and tons of Dollar General stores.

Meade म्हणाले...

I’ll be in Helsinki. Meet me in Gdańsk.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Too bad about Portland, Or. It looks like it should be an amazing place to live.

That or Southern Washington...no state income tax.

Oregon has no sales tax so you can live in WA and come to Oregon to shop.

But they're too whacky there...

mikeski म्हणाले...

I've lived in and around NYC for 37 years, and I can't recommend it.

William म्हणाले...

I live in a nice neighborhood in NYC. I'm sure that there are better places to live, but what with inertia which has been the guiding principle of my life I'll probably remain here until I die....I think crime fears are exaggerated, at least so far as violent crimes go. Lots of shoplifters and homeless though, and, of course, taxes are high, but we've got Central Park and Hudson River Park and just about anything your heart desires within a two or three block walk. The prices are higher, but you can get real bargains on designer clothes and illicit drugs if you know the right people.

Bruce Hayden म्हणाले...

Keep moving to the Denver area. I am out of there, up to Big Sky country, and we own a bunch of apartments in the Denver metro area. On a pollution free day, it can still be a beautiful city, with a view of the Continental Divide to the west. But then the wind stops, the inversion causes the pollution to obscure the view, and the reality of mail in voting locking in Dem control in the state sinks in.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"I’ll be in Helsinki. Meet me in Gdańsk."

It's like meeting halfway in Lafayette.

Wilbur म्हणाले...

In high school I played basketball in Paris. Illinois. About as close as I'll ever get to the real one.

Fun fact: Portland, Maine is closer to Africa than Miami, Florida.

Leland म्हणाले...

I think if more New Yorkers travelled beyond New Jersey (and I don’t mean Philadelphia), they wouldn’t go back. So I don’t encourage them to leave. The Big Apple is the place to be. Empire State of mind!

I tried to take the quiz, I quit after 5 questions. It was like an Althouse poll in which none of the above is not an option, but that would be the correct answer. Neither fish and chips, fish sandwich, pea soup, or baguette sandwich is a favorite meal. Steak wasn’t an option, and none of those options are popular with the places I’ve been that I like. Sure, in London, fish and chips or pea soup is a decent choice, but my favorite place there is an Iraqi restaurant in Kingston. Baguette sandwich in Paris is the thing to do, but so is keeping a mistress and buying her and the wife elaborate gifts. When faced with the best way to get to work and “personal automobile” or “private plane” isn’t an option, major flaws in the poll are obvious.

gilbar म्हणाले...

i like Paris!
It's the town where i'd usually cross the Waspinicon river, on theParis Bridge.
Much faster than going over to Central City on your way up to Backbone from Cedar Rapids

Michael K म्हणाले...

I came up in Paris, too. My youngest daughter loved Nice so much she majored in French in college. Nice would be nice.

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

Portland, Maine is lovely because winter keeps the visible scum in nicer climates or indoors, which gives the self-satisfied leftist coastalists time to further corrode the state without people noticing. Inland, poverty, drugs, and rampant refugee welfare parasitism is not lovely.

For example, the coastalist elite just passed a law so that if a real woman ends up in a nursing home, God forbid, they don't get to refuse a cruel and probably predatory pre- or post-operative tranny man from being their roommate.

If that's his choice.

Women don't get the same choice, as it were, unless they're rich enough to afford a private room. Just like abortion provision worked before Roe.

All war is class war, as the progs used to say. Still, it's probably less irritating than the other Portland. France is OK unless you are Jewish or care about free speech.

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

Gee TJ, I'd love to see Cairo, but I don't brag about enjoying places where 90% plus of the women are forcefully mutilated and little boys are openly buggered. You apparently find that acceptable?

Unless you mean Cairo, Mississippi.

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

I've got mixed feelings when it comes to Paris, not France generally, just Paris.

My last visit there (2018) was not a nice one for a myriad of reasons, and for some of those reasons I had mentally prepared myself from my last trip (2017) to be disappointed with some of what I saw (the ghettoization of Montmarte for instance...). One of my favorite Italian places in Pont De Neuilly where I'd had an enjoyable fling an Irish Chick who I met at Paris Air Show in 2015 was closed, and I was told this was becoming a much more frequent occurrence citywide. Even institutiona like Le Procope are having a hard time, Covid's impact not even being considered, because I haven't been back since before Covid hit.

Even in 2018 there was a sensation of malaise, and a much larger percentage of the staff and guests you saw everywhere were less French than the year before (lots of Greeks and Croats...everywhere). This was also around the buildup of the 'Gilet Jaunes' movement...there was just a tangible feeling of depression you felt seeing and talking to people.

Mason G म्हणाले...

“Nationwide, minimum-wage earners in 91% of counties are unable to afford a one-bedroom rental, a report found.“ - San Francisco Chronicle.

This is only a surprise to idiots. When I started working 50 years ago, minimum wage netted you about 45 bucks a week. One bedroom apartments cost about $150/month, never mind trying to figure out where to get the money to pay for food, utilities and transportation. You do the math.

Back then, nobody I knew who was making minimum wage expected to be able to afford to live on their own, even in some dumpy apartment. When did people start to believe that a minimum wage job should allow people to raise families and buy houses? And whose fault is it that they started believing that nonsense?

MalaiseLongue म्हणाले...

Carol, Meade: See you in Helsinki.

Charlie म्हणाले...

Banger? I hardly knew her!

Smilin' Jack म्हणाले...

I got Paris from that quiz too, though I don’t know why. I’ve been there a couple of times and wasn’t impressed. As Popeye Doyle said, “I’d rather be a lamppost in New York than president of France.” Main problem is it’s full of Parisians.

Gospace म्हणाले...

Lem said...
“Nationwide, minimum-wage earners in 91% of counties are unable to afford a one-bedroom rental, a report found.“ - San Francisco Chronicle


So? Minimum wage is starting out wages. If you're still making minimum wage one year after being hired, find another job. You are truly in a dead end job.

My middle son started out with Walmart as a minimum wage cashier. Took him a whole 4 years to get to salaried management. If you've got a college degree and you're in a minimum wage job to start out- you picked a useless degree.

If you've been working for a few years and can't get above minimum wage- that's usually an indication that that's all your worth. Maybe it's you- maybe it's the fact you live in Bumf--k Middle of Nowhere and should move on. If that's all your worth, tough being you. If you live in Bumf--k, MOVE!.

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

Everybody taking the quiz seems to be getting Paris.

What are the chances l’Office du Tourisme et des Congrès Parisienne has paid money to promote Paris tourism after 3 disastrous seasons in a row using little quizes like this.

Money well spent apparently.

Kevin म्हणाले...

"Have you ever been to Paris?"

Yes. Twice.


Have you ever been to Spain?

Do you kind of like the music?

Whiskeybum म्हणाले...

These 'where should you live' quizzes are so slanted as to be worthless. The first quiz was totally slanted to females - showing women's fashions, women's brands, shopping options, etc. Then there's things like "which of these recreation options to you prefer?" One is of a picture of deer. How am I supposed to relate to that? Am I visiting the zoo? Photographing wildlife? Boozing it up 'nort' before the big deer hunt?

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

If you want you groceries and cunning artisanal breads and electric car chargers running, you are going to have to do something about this: the hard working working class cannot afford to form families and acquire property even in the most remote places anymore. So forget about that Whole Foods cheese counter and getting your heating fuel delivered.

10% of all spaces in graduate medical and STEM programs WE subsidize are being bought by the chi-com spawn of the Maoist murderers, and 50% are being bought by all foreign students.

10% of all farm and housing is already owned by the chi-com leadership who raped and imprisoned their own population and are now doing the same to the American working class.

You can ignore this. But your children will submit. Needs require, right?

Iman म्हणाले...

Go… go!
Get outta Denver, baby!

Wilbur म्हणाले...

@Mason G
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Iman म्हणाले...

Fuck me runnin’… Portlandia.

Howard म्हणाले...

You effete Republican elite sure do enjoy shitting on working people.

The Elder म्हणाले...

Meeting in Lafayette is always nice.

n.n म्हणाले...

Progressive prices and availability (PPA).

Left Bank of the Charles म्हणाले...

Helsinki and London. The Portland hate in the comments on this blog helps keep my nephew’s rent down. Keep it coming.

Freeman Hunt म्हणाले...

I get t London. I couldn't take the second quiz because I didn't know what it was talking about.

Rosalyn C. म्हणाले...

I got Helsinki and Los Angeles. That was surprising/suspicious.



Michael K म्हणाले...

Blogger Howard said...

You effete Republican elite sure do enjoy shitting on working people.


Howard, I know you are stupid but you keep getting the parties mixed up.

gpm म्हणाले...

I got London on Althouse's first option. But, as with all of these sort of quizzes, in many cases, none of the suggested answers made sense to me.

The second option wanted my name at the start, which wasn't going to happen.

>> You people would feel better in Banger Maine.

Well, you did include the "you people" tell, meaning you're being a dick, but really, are you intentionally misspelling "Bangor" or being more of a dick than usual? Or just too stupid to know how "Bangor" is spelled? If you were trying to be clever, big fail.

>>In high school I played basketball in Paris. Illinois. About as close as I'll ever get to the real one.

See the "Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe" number from the Harvey Girls.

>>You effete Republican elite sure do enjoy shitting on working people.

WTF are you even babbling about, Howard? I repeat what I said before: If I weren't always late to the party, I would just cut and past as a response to all your idiotic, insulting posts the idiotic, insulting post you did a week or two ago about the "only" reason you come here. In light of that post, why should anyone pay any attention to you whatsoever, even in your non-idiotic, non-insulting posts. Just go away, it that's your attitude and purpose.

--gpm

Rollo म्हणाले...

I get the feeling those quizzes don't offer that many options. Also, what if you just don't care about any of the Beyonces? I got London and Barcelona. I can think of other places I'd like to live more.

Even people who make substantially more than the minimum wage find it hard to live in San Francisco or Marin county. Gentrification, if that's what it is, makes it hard for people to live in the communities they grew up in. You may be better off staying where you are and making the most of it, rather than moving somewhere the rents are too high and you drive them still higher.

Mason G म्हणाले...

"I get the feeling those quizzes don't offer that many options."

Tried one, the first two questions didn't offer very good options. The third didn't offer one even remotely reasonable. End of quiz for me.

BamaBadgOR म्हणाले...

Forget Portland, the armpit of Oregon. Go to Bend, OR.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"Paywall, but I'm gonna bet the words rent control don't appear anywhere in the article. In NYC rent control has for a century destroyed the first fundamental incentive to building more housing- profit."

Baloney. First of all, rent controls were first implemented in NYC during WWII, not a century ago. Also, the percentage of rent-controlled and rent-stabilized apartments are shrinking over time, as their owners die off or move, and as the apartments come out of rent-controled or -stabilized status.

New apartment buildings do not fall under rent-control or -stabilized laws, and owners of these buildings are not required to price new apartments according to rent control laws. The problem is that the new apartment building being built are almost all ultra-expensive mansions in the sky for millionaires, billionaires, and trillionaires. As stated above, most of these buildings sit empty, as their owners are often foreign buyers who buy them as investments. If they stay in their multi-million apartments at all, it may be only a matter of weeks (or days) in any given year.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"Minimum wage is starting out wages."

Minimum wages laws were intended to require employers pay a minimum "living wage" that would allow their workers to afford food, clothing, and housing. It is not and was not intended to be just "starting out wages" or wages for teenagers getting their first jobs. The wealthy powers that be have strangled increases of the minimum wage, such that today's minimum wage does NOT afford workers sufficient income to clothe, house, and feed themselves and their families. $15.00 per hour isn't really sufficient in many ares of the US to afford a living wage. The current minimum wage is really a starvation wage.