Said Dave Chappelle, quoted in "Dave Chappelle special quietly released on Netflix, defends trans jokes" (NY Post). I need to watch this immediately.
UPDATE, 8:59 a.m.: I just watched it.
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"All the kids were screaming and yelling. I remember, I said to the kids, I go, 'Well, OK, well, what do you guys think I did wrong?'"
"And a line formed. These kids said everything about gender, and this and that and the other, but they didn’t say anything about art.... And this is my biggest gripe with this whole controversy with 'The Closer': That you cannot report on an artist’s work and remove artistic nuance from his words. It would be like if you were reading a newspaper and they say, 'Man Shot In The Face By a Six-Foot Rabbit Expected To Survive,' you’d be like, 'Oh my god,’ and they never tell you it’s a Bugs Bunny cartoon.... When I heard those talking points coming out of these children’s faces, that really, sincerely, hurt me. Because I know those kids didn’t come up with those words. I’ve heard those words before. The more you say I can’t say something, the more urgent it is for me to say it... And it has nothing to do with what you’re saying I can’t say. It has everything to do with my right, my freedom, of artistic expression. That is valuable to me. That is not severed from me. It’s worth protecting for me, and it’s worth protecting for everyone else who endeavors in our noble, noble professions.... And these kids didn’t understand that they were instruments of oppression. And I didn’t get mad at them.... They’re kids. They’re freshmen. They’re not ready yet. They don’t know."
Said Dave Chappelle, quoted in "Dave Chappelle special quietly released on Netflix, defends trans jokes" (NY Post). I need to watch this immediately.
Said Dave Chappelle, quoted in "Dave Chappelle special quietly released on Netflix, defends trans jokes" (NY Post). I need to watch this immediately.
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People Need to Learn, that
Diversity means WE ALL MUST THINK THE SAME
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Inclusion means ALL PEOPLE MUST BE INCLUDED IN ALL THINKING THE SAME
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One Thought for ALL
"It would be like if you were reading a newspaper and they say, 'Man Shot In The Face By a Six-Foot Rabbit Expected To Survive,' you’d be like, 'Oh my god,’ and they never tell you it’s a Bugs Bunny cartoon"
Dave, a broadcast in Canada recently told people to be on the lookout for a 'caucasian woman, 6ft1, brown hair, beard, light build, extremely suicidal do not approach'. You might be assuming this is some kind of omission instead of commission. It's a feature, not a bug. They're doing it on purpose.
you cannot report on an artist’s work and remove artistic nuance from his words. It would be like if you were reading a newspaper and they say, 'Man Shot In The Face By a Six-Foot Rabbit Expected To Survive,' you’d be like, 'Oh my god,’ and they never tell you it’s a Bugs Bunny cartoon....
Sounds awfully “clown nose on” to me.
The more you say I can’t say something, the more urgent it is for me to say it...
Ok, there’s the money shot. If they want to make a reasoned argument about why the world would be a better place if you choose not to say something, that’s fine. That’s how it should be. But the moment they try to prevent you from saying it, the script flips. No matter what it is, the world is a better place if you do say it. Because whatever their reasons for not wanting you to say it, it is more important that their tactics fail. That kind of coercion cannot be allowed to be an effective method of achieving their goals.
"'Man Shot In The Face By a Six-Foot Rabbit Expected To Survive,' you’d be like, 'Oh my god,’ and they never tell you it’s a Bugs Bunny cartoon...."
Direct hit. This is our whole media.
I find it a lot easier to stay friends with people if I just recognize them as victims of the all encompassing propaganda which is the only news most normies receive. Not everybody has time to lay about and read history, much less see that the forces at play and strategies never change. We are no smarter than the Romans. We just have better tech.
I need to watch this immediately.
Wasn't the lesson of the last two threads, "do not be a slave of your screens"?
If you didn't think grab them by the pussy was funny you're not going to understand it.
"These kids today" is such a cliche - but they do seem all too willing to mindlessly repeat what their grownups tell them. I remember being told that certain comedians were offensive (Carlin, Pryor, and a little earlier, Lenny Bruce) and I thought - "Offensive? - where can I hear their material?".
The last ten minutes are the good part. The man is a genius.
I thought this was going to be from Phoebe the art professor at UofM.
I agree with Gilbar and Tim Maguire.
All for One Thought
One Thought for ALL
Embrace the hive mind.
I just want to say a hearty “AMEN” to Tim Maguire’s 7:22 post…
"The more you say I can’t say something, the more urgent it is for me to say it..."
So if I run into Dave and call him the n word, he will high five me for following this advice?
Doubtful ...
“The more you say I can’t say something, the more urgent it is for me to say it.”
In the context of cancel culture, an artist who thinks that way is submitting themself to a new kind of heckler’s veto. In comedy, there is a straight line back to Lenny Bruce, who ultimately cancelled himself. If you need to watch this immediately, ask yourself if you are you watching for the art or because it dangles the titillating possibility of seeing career suicide.
There's more depth in this statement than we've gotten in a year-and-a-half of the Biden administration.
I think that Tim Maguire’s comment is the best summation I’ve heard of the reason to oppose cancel culture.
I think it's interesting that when someone graduates from high school and joins the military, we refer to him or her as a serviceman or servicewoman, but if that same person goes to college it's still boys and girls. It's time we started expecting "college kids" to wait to attend until they're ready to be college men and women.
"When I heard those talking points coming out of these children’s faces, that really, sincerely, hurt me. Because I know those kids didn’t come up with those words. I’ve heard those words before."
Attack of the Greta Thunberg clones.
"Because I know those kids didn’t come up with those words."
No kidding. They regurgitate all the CRT and therapy words, and all the grownups think it so profound! so insightful!
The left brain has all the words, but none of the sense.
As if on cue one of the drones show up and demonstrates their lack of a stinger.
So if I run into Dave and call him the n word, he will high five me for following this advice?
If it was truly an act of artistic expression, yes he would.
For example, if you used it in way Lenny Bruce did, he would be very supportive.
Then he'd probably discuss with you whether polarizing the audience was central to expressing your message or whether the message could be strengthened by leaving it out.
We have very unusual heroes these days. You never know who's going to take the red pill, and then have the courage to resist the backlash. Kudos.
Chappelle is still too naive. These "children" are actually adults. They are the shock troops, the black/brown shirts, the red guard of what is coming (and is actually already here). They won't ever be persuaded by someone of Chappelle's calm and understanding disposition.
Take a look at Lefty Mark's comment above- that is the intellectual firepower of the people with which we are dealing. It isn't reason they are working with, and it never was.
He is saying that the teachers have molded the kids into instruments of oppression. That’s from Obama leadership. The great divider.
Tim Maguire @ 7:22: you nail it. “Because whatever their reasons for not wanting you to say it, it is more important that their tactics fail.” I would only suggest adding “…that their tactics fail so obviously and painfully that they think better of trying them.”
People only change when it hurts. So let’s help them.
And these kids didn’t understand that they were instruments of oppression
True of so much where the left is involved. Still the Party of Slavery, if not chattel property then slavery to error and self-oppression and self-degradation.
Nazification of America.
Basic economics would teach these kids that by making certain thought scarce they inadvertently make it more valuable. Ergo, DC exploiting it. That’s how I see the economy of the n-word working. When the n-word is overused, devalued, calls rung out for the use to be dialled back. If memory serves gay ascendancy had less to do with censorship and more to do with “we’re here, we’re queer, get used to it” and jokes, I believe most gays understood, was part of that. Suppression can only serve the interests of oppression.
More economics, less Marx.
The more you say I can’t say something, the more urgent it is for me to say it..
WHY IT IS IMPERATIVE TO TURN AWAY FROM THE LEFT.
Left Bank of the Charles: "In the context of cancel culture, an artist who thinks that way is submitting themself to a new kind of heckler’s veto. In comedy, there is a straight line back to Lenny Bruce, who ultimately cancelled himself."
Lenny Bruce was extremely niche in his appeal. Chappelle has a massive following.
Big difference.
Teenagers know nothing, and should be forbidden from speaking in public about any topic more serious than the latest lipstick hue, or dreamy boyfriends.
"Wasn't the lesson of the last two threads, "do not be a slave of your screens"?"
Seems like the opposite of being a slave to the screen. There was something specific on Netflix and I chose to watch just that and to watch it at an unusual time because I especially wanted to watch exactly that.
Being a slave to the screen would have more to do with staring at random things because it's that time of day when you do screens or because you have nothing else to do.
Dumb Lefty Mark: "So if I run into Dave and call him the n word, he will high five me for following this advice?
Doubtful ..."
I don't think it would surprise Chappelle in the slightest to hear a democratical like dumb lefty Mark call him the n-word for daring to depart from the democratical/lefty/NeverTrump (but I repeat myself) plantation.
"And I didn’t get mad at them.... They’re kids. They’re freshmen. They’re not ready yet. They don’t know."
Unfortunately, when they cease to be freshmen, their obnoxious behavior will only get worse. Sophomoric isn't uncomplimentary for nothing.
The left want to destroy our children's brains, and lefty parents are cool with it.
Drago, he says it's urgent for us to say forbidden things. I assume Dave would like us to take every available opportunity to say these things, no?
"WHY IT IS IMPERATIVE TO TURN AWAY FROM THE LEFT."
It's more than that. It's a question of survival. Either civilization will abide, or the entire West will be reduced to some form of nuclear-armed feudalism. For the sake of everything that makes life worth living the left must be utterly purged by any means necessary, whatever it takes -- ostracism, disenfranchisement, deportation, internal exile, "showers" -- whatever it takes.
Who would have thought that Dave Chappelle is the person in charge of explaining to the kids how old school liberalism works?
I can foresee a future where historians will look back and wonder how we were saved from prickly authoritarianism by Dave Chappelle and Joe Rogan. Two comedians who are acquainted with the rougher side of life and without the benefit of a college education. You wouldn't consider either one to be a deep thinker, but they have an innate sense of what freedom means and both are prepared to stand up to the mob.
'So if I run into Dave and call him the n word, he will high five me for following this advice?'
Why not?
Democrats have been doing this since the 1600s...
Today education is synonymous with indoctrination. It really shouldn't surprise anyone that the "highly educated" are so progressive, they've had years and years more exposure to leftist propaganda than most and readily accept the latest groupthink talking points without question.
The thing that I've noticed about most comedians is that they are very intelligent people.
I knew so many funny people in college who were very intelligent but never made the Dean's list or went on to high paying jobs because they also happened to be smart asses and nonconformists.
I have on my bookshelf a book entitled "The Essential Lennie Bruce," edited by John Cohen, a collection of Bruce's comic routines. The first page has the n-word 15+ times (and numerous other derogatory words, like the word for Jews that rhymes with like, a word for Irish, and Hispanics, and Italians, and even one I don't know "Moulonjohn" which I assume I can write out because I've never heard it before). Bruce then says: "The point? That the word's suppression gives it the power, the violence, the viciousness."
Melungeon, I think (for h at 352PM).
Quaestor, that's funny... I think.
Comedians seem to me to be the people staring into the abyss, and finding a way to present the abyss staring back at them (or us) in a way that makes people laugh. I don't believe they're not "deep thinkers" just because they may not have followed Steve Martin's path and studied philosophy first.
That said... I think LA Story is a brilliant movie.
Dumb Lefty Mark: "Drago, he says it's urgent for us to say forbidden things. I assume Dave would like us to take every available opportunity to say these things, no?"
Go for it Klansman.
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