Said Lili Luxe, quoted in "Who is the topless woman at the Wisconsin state Capitol?/Lili Luxe is protesting daily for bodily autonomy" (Isthmus).
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"A cis-gendered man wouldn’t think twice about what I’m doing... But I have been raised to believe that my body is banned; my body is sexual; my body needs to be covered."
"We never question why. To me, this protest is about the bigger picture of what bodily autonomy actually means. The rules we impose upon ourselves.... Now that I’ve done this for more than a week, I can feel a difference in my brain and how I think about myself. It’s been so positive... At first I thought, ‘Is this going too far?’ But now I wonder why I didn’t do this years ago. I want to be part of the movement that normalizes this freedom for everyone, deprograms how we think about some people’s bodies and not others.... I think the police have acquiesced. Yes, I can do this and I’m really not bothering anyone.... I'm not actually pro-nudity. I get why we need coverings, otherwise it would be chaos and it’s not very sanitary. I’m also not just showing up topless at any restaurants or businesses.... This all gets back to everything that’s happening with abortion and this crisis we are in over laws that tell me what I can and cannot do with my body. This is about equality."
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She sounds wonderfully sensible and down-to-earth. For someone who has been organizing topless bar crawls for a decade, at any rate. Her logic -- well, there is no logic. But I liked what I read of her, personally. Her ideology wasn't so strident that there was nothing human left. Go Lili!
Terminal silliness combined with a worship of abortion.
"this crisis we are in over laws that tell me what I can and cannot do with my body"
One would think that a properly trained reporter would follow that up with a question about face coverings and vaccine mandates.
But one question -- is a topless bar crawl an organized tour of topless bars? Or could it be a group of people going topless to several bars?
It must be the former. So Lili has a longstanding thing for topless. It must provide primary or secondary income for her. Topless, that has to be secondary, doesn't it?
Many conundrums here to be pleasantly pondered.
Insurrectionists mammary glands?
‘She bought more clothes at the thrift store that turned out to be unwearable.’
Me! Me! Me!
Yes, of course. Another person on the Left in pursuit of excellence. I'm sure this has been tried before. Maybe over a million times, but whatever. This actually sounds like someone in pursuit of something to whine about. And on that end, she's done very well.
To acknowledge our fight for our bodily rights, I'm gonna take my pants off in front of Sarasota City Hall today. I wouldn't do it in a restaurant. I get the difference. But I'm looking for a change in how my brain feels, and how I think about myself. We need to deprogram how we think about men's testicles. I'm sure taking my pants off in front of city hall is the way to do this. After all, fuck the rest of you. This is all about me.
Winter is coming...but not fast enough.
That body is a war crime. That's why it's banned. Nobody wants to see that, sweetheart.
If tits were banned there wouldn't be OnlyFans. It's just that nobody wants to see HER tits.
"Lili Luxe"
Surprised no one has picked up on the name yet. Hint, I really don't think she's EVER had a problem.with being naked, if you know what I mean.
I'm someone who dislikes it when other men go shirtless in public. Even if a man is attractive and well toned, I just don't want to see it. Put your pecs and abs away! It comes down to modesty and propriety, which is a worthy value knowing no gender.
Additionally, female breasts are sexual in a way that male breasts are not. Humans are unique in having permanently engorged mammaries, and the biological purpose is sexual attraction, so displaying them naturally invites men to think sexually about you. This is science, which the Left claim to believe in, but for some reason science doesn't apply to sexuality and gender. Why is that?
This all gets back to everything that’s happening with abortion and this crisis we are in over laws that tell me what I can and cannot do with my body. This is about equality.
She is totally oblivious to the fact that many people deem abortion to be the murder of babies.
She may disagree with those people's opinion, but they comprise a large portion of the electorate and that is why the issue is not just about what she can and cannot do with her body.
What?! No pictures?
I saw a guy the other day walking on 72nd Street without a shirt. He was a homeless guy. The only guys who walk around without shirts are homeless guys and low class kids at muni golf courses.
Yawn.
It has been legal for women (and men) to be topless in NYC for decades. Topless women can be found on beaches throughout the USA and the world.
The female breast should be viewed -- yes, viewed -- for what it is: a nutrition delivery system for infants, not a sexual organ. Now the pudendal cleft, on the other hand...
“A cis-gendered man wouldn’t think twice about what I’m doing and society wouldn’t shame him for it. But I have been raised to believe that my body is banned; my body is sexual; my body needs to be covered,” says Luxe.
Wait. 13 years ago I was scolded and told that my use of the adjective “transgendered” was incorrect, offensive and evidence of my “transphobia.” Now “cisgendered” is appropriate? Make up your queered minds, social activist speech police.
Serious Question?
Where is it, exactly; that cis-gendered men can go shirtless?
The Beach? Locker rooms? Showers?
Is a "woman" with a penis and hormone enhanced breasts allowed to go top less under Wisconsin and other state laws?
Or is he (it?) considered a "woman" for chestal display purposes?
If he cuts his meat and 2 veg off, does the law change?
What about a woman who pretends to be a man?
Why are only "cis-gendered" men allowed to do thus?
This whole world is so confusing. I feel sorry for my grandkids. Fortunately not so much of this nutsiness in Puerto Rico.
Yet.
John LGBTQBNY Henry
If you want to see a Topless Bar Crawl, just visit NOLA during Mardi Gras. Those girls enjoy doing it and it's NOT a protest. Much better.
Jersey Fled said...
Terminal silliness combined with a worship of abortion.
Pretty much.
Men don't go topless in public setting that don't involve pools, oceans, lakes, hot tubs, or something similar. And even then, having just returned from FL, a lot of the men on the beach today are wearing lightweight shirts with an SPF 50 rating. After an hour on the beach last week I donned my cotton T-shirt. On the way home my son (who was driving) stopped at a beach store and bought me a high tech fabric beach shirt.
The ice cream shop w stopped in with the grandkids had a sign- no shirt, no shoes, no service. The no shirt applied equally to all 57 sexes.
Unless you're in one of the aforementioned places where shirtlessness is common, shirtless is a sign that there's someone you should be steering clear of.
There are many, many reasons for wearing shirts. One of them is it makes concealed carry a lot easier....
Lili, now address “vaccine” mandates.
For the record, almost all males favor women going topless until they realize how they would be endlessly harassed for the sin of lookism and prosecuted for female harassment just for looking and commenting.
Other than it disadvantages women with large breasts, especially those over 25, I don't see the problem of topless women and girls where it is acceptable for men to go "topless". Equality and all.
Yes, the female breast is a sexual attention attractant, but mostly because their appearance is "startling" compared to common female body exposure. Frank Sinatra has whole song that discusses the flash of the ankle back in the day. It is more the unexpected appearance than the body part itself that is stimulating.
I learned this 33 years ago in Tahiti. Sitting in a resort bar, the women around the pool were topless as Europeans often are. None to my 25 yr old mind were attractive, over tanned and over 40. But two young girls, I would place at 12 or 13 walked by headed out, to I assume talk to mom. These girls were not children and not young women, but they were topless. It was then I came to see a without the sexual filter. I'd seen topless 20-somethings on the beach, these women at the pool, and topless children all my life, but now confronted with topless, I don't know, in-betweens? And that is when I realized that topless females are just people without shirt on. The real issue is most significant breasts are not all that attractive flapping in the breeze, but we have that with overweight men these days, so why not the ladies if they choose.
Once on common display, the naked boob will just be a bare breast. In the same way the naked butt is now just bare cheeks.
There are men on the sexual offenders list for taking out their penises to pee in public. Women aren't the only ones who have to follow rules about their body.
In the old days cis-gendered teenage boys would have had fun overtly gawking at and discussing her anatomy - as invited by her exhibitionism.
It's possible, although unlikely, that she would have gotten the message.
The cross cultural nature of the practice of covering primary and secondary sexual parts has many roots. They are not often articulated. There's a tacit dimension to social practice and every now and then someone comes along who just doesn't get it.
She should read Edmund Burke.
One would think that a properly trained reporter would follow that up with a question about face coverings and vaccine mandates.
You're kidding, right ?
If you have nice tits, I think everyone would like to see them.
But if they're hidden in rolls of fat and covered with bad tattoos, please keep them to yourself.
"Hey! My tits are down here."
Marcus Bressler said...
If you want to see a Topless Bar Crawl, just visit NOLA during Mardi Gras. Those girls enjoy doing it and it's NOT a protest. Much better.
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It's exactly the kind of female "empowerment" that drives the Feminazis crazy:
"That's NOT what we mean!!"
‘Headless Body in Topless Bar’ turns 38 today === April 14, 2021
new headline === Topless woman with unseen nipples
Where is it, exactly; that cis-gendered men can go shirtless?
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on this blog cis-gendered men cannot go in shorts only!
Tell you what- I googled that name.
Sturdy built blonde, if it’s her.
W/bought &paid for tahtahs. IMhumbleO.
Like- kitchen sink… can’t be the same chick?
My question is: where does the “discourse” go from here?
My guess at an answer: once the blackouts and famine hit, we really won’t have time for this.
J K Brown @ 9:35: great comment.
This is about equality.
Althouse should consider a tag for people advocating equality in one part of their life but not every part.
She can call it “equality bullshit”.
The inmates aren't running the asylum the terminal juveniles are!
It's true. People are very very afraid of the human body. The younger than baby boomer guys in the locker room are always covering up. The new puritanic same as the old puritan.
In the early 70's Venice Beach north of the breakwater was a nude friendly beach. Salarymen in gray flannel suits would carry their shoes and box lunch to watch the show. Us teen and tween Junior Guards didn't pay attention to the freak show. We were focused on living a real Bay Watch summer. I'm still hanging out with women in wet Speedos.
As woman with AAA cup breasts, I am torn. I see chubby/obese men letting it all hang out shirtless - man boobs bigger than mine flopping around - all summer. Rolls of fat bouncing and shiny with sweat, really pretty unattractive and disgusting at times. But my 'barely there' tits can't be exposed? Don't get me started on butt cracks. We are already subjected to human parts we don't want to see. What's a few extra boobs?
hombre said: "In the old days cis-gendered teenage boys would have had fun overtly gawking at and discussing her anatomy - as invited by her exhibitionism."
I hear most teenage boys learn all about sex from the internet, which would mean lots of porn and fake boobs. They probably are so used to perfectly round, fake DDD tits they probably wouldn't give her a second look or even KNOW that those two blobs she's got are 'normal' tits.
Ms. Luxe overstates her case a bit for effect. Absent the sort of extraordinary circumstances found in screwball comedies, I would certainly think more than once about appearing shirtless outside my state capitol (or Wisconsin's), even though I am a cis man. And if I did it, I wouldn't be at all surprised to be shamed for it. The legitimate point is, unless I managed to create a public disturbance, I wouldn't be arrested. If all Ms. Luxe really wants is equality in not being arrested, I guess I agree with her, but she doesn't make it easy.
Relatedly, has Wisconsin de-gendered its sexual assault laws by defining the male breast as an "intimate" body part? That's the way it looks, though IANAWL.
I googled images of Lilli Luxe and I now see that her issue is complicated by the cruel exigencies of aging, and its companion, gravity. She seems to spend a lot of money on heavy duty support wear. Lots of men are fools when it comes to large mammaries, and the contagion of their foolishness somehow infects women, who also instinctively and painfully understand the transitory nature of their mammarial allure. Lilli is running a going out of business sale. That's why the cameras ignored frontal Lilli.
On second thought, she probably doesn't need Edmund Burke. I think she is demonstrating the value of advertising.
Roe, later Roe's regrets, denied women their bodily autonomy, bodies of evidence from ten year-old girls rape... rape-raped, through establishment of the Pro-Choice ethical religion (i.e. sanctuary climates), and processed through Planned Parenthood transnational federation et al. dissassembled, cannibalized, sequestered.
That said, there is no mystery in sex and conception, a woman and man have four choices: sex or abstinence, contraception in depth, adoption (i.e. shared/shifted responsibility), and compassion (i.e. shared/personal responsibility). And an equal right to self-defense through reconciliation. A civilized society has compelling cause to discourage murder (secret killing of a person, unlawful killing), demos-cracy aborted in darkness, human rites performed for social, redistributive, clinical, political, and fair weather causes.
Selfieshness. That said, hang loose and watch women, men, and dogs follow.
She looks better from behind. Someone should build her a statue called Backward!
A gendered male (i.e. masculine male) normally distributed. The alternative is the transgender spectrum, which is narrow, bland, and minority by Nature/nature.
---is a topless bar crawl an organized tour of topless bars? Or could it be a group of people going topless to several bars? It must be the former.
Wrong, Kai. I read another piece on Lili and she organizes events where women shed their tops and let the twins run free. It changes their heads if not their lives -- according to Lili. And why not, it certainly defies our customs. A little freedom can have a lot of power.
Too much power for many here, apparently! Let the lady live a little. Edmund Burke would appreciate her.
Lilli Luxe is about 200 years too late. Rubens might have appreciated her.
"At a waterpark, I’m told to wear a bikini while surrounded by hundreds of topless men.” "
Yes, yes. By all means, continue pretending breasts are not sexual. Then berate your lover for ignoring your tits during sex.
But hey, recruit some Femen chicks for this sort of thing.
The cis-gendered man should think twice though.
Is this the mega plus size model on the internet? I guess it's not the Lillian Lux who was a mainstay of the Yiddish theater way back when.
Lilli Luxe: hot
Lili Luxe: not
Would smoke a joint with either one.
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