Helena Kerschner tells Tucker Carlson about why she detransitioned and is now speaking out against pushing children to transition:
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"I'm just really concerned for younger girls and boys being led down this path, and being hurt by it." pic.twitter.com/m5Q5NVBy09
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"It's a failure of male leadersh- — uh, of adult leadership..."
A fascinating slip by Tucker Carlson (at 1:43):
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He's not wrong. Fathers are not the primary driver of child transition. Many have speculated that this trend is another aspect of Munchausen by Proxy which also primarily affects women. Of course, this confirms my priors so take it for what it's worth.
"A fascinating slip by Tucker Carlson (at 1:43):"
Can you explain what is fascinating about that "slip?" I must be dense or not sufficiently woke or whatever because he obviously started to mischaracterize, realized it and immediately corrected himself. Seriously.
There are adult females as a technicality, but still the phrase is still women and children.
Tucker is doing the Lord’s work.
A fascinating slip by Tucker Carlson (at 1:43): Helena Kerschner tells Tucker Carlson about why she detransitioned and is now speaking out against pushing children to transition:
Fascinating.
Yes.
In that the powers that be who are mostly male are destroying the positions and identities that help people hold their place in society and are purposely degrading the social fabric of the world.
These people deserve a reckoning.
While Tucker treated it like a slip, I think he really believes it is a failure of male leadership from other things he has said. Women as a group are the adults who are supportive of the transgender movement. They leave the women who aren't impotent to do anything about it. How many court cases do you hear about a father suing for his child to be allowed to transition? No, it's the kid's batshit crazy mother. We need fathers to take charge of this one.
"While Tucker treated it like a slip, I think he really believes it is a failure of male leadership from other things he has said."
Yeah. So do I. The slip is that he said it, that thing that he thinks.
"The slip is that he said it, that thing that he thinks."
Or... I suspect it's something that he knows will excite his viewers and he liked teasing that idea — as I do! It's an exciting idea, for those other people, but not for me. If it was something I actually thought, it would be really exciting, and I wouldn't dare say it... or would I?
I wish this was "acceptable" to say and he would simply say it.
The Boy Scouts used to have a good model that echoed how successful societies raised boys for centuries. Up until about 6th grade, boys were in Cub Scouts which were primarily led by Den Mothers. Then the boys transitioned to Boy Scouts which were primarily led by older boys (think High School juniors and seniors) who themselves were led by men. This the normal way in most societies --- mothers and other women in the community raised both sexes as young children, but the men took over to complete the raising of the boys.
The Boy Scouts as an organization weren't destroyed by adult male gay predators (although they were certainly there and extremely damaging, but not in the numbers people think. I never saw any) or by gay scouts, but by the introduction of moms especially those who insisted on being adult leaders as opposed to simply observing. Letting the moms in was a failure of male leadership.
"Fascinating slip"?
Not so much to me. It's possible he was thinking "medical leadership," and said a word ("male") that starts and ends with the same sounds, and is itself a germane word to the discussion of sex change medical practice. Or maybe not.
It doesn't matter much to me, because I think his point of view, that the people espousing this radical treatment of mentally and emotionally troubled kids are actually committing child abuse, is completely right. And I think that view is gradually rising to the top, becoming less "politically incorrect," and will someday be the prevailing view. We will then look back at these medical profiteers, cashing in on the woke-promoted enabling of government-financing of these procedures, the way we look back at Dr. Mengele's "research". Cruel and inhuman.
I watched the interview and did not notice the "slip." Probably because I agree with him. The "transition" stuff is child abuse.
Even though their personalities and styles are very different, Tucker reminds me of Trump. It's easy to point out their flaws and mistakes. But both of them confront issues that no one else is willing to confront. Both of them provoke honest conversations, knowing they'll be slandered and attacked. In their own ways, they are speaking truth to power, at a time when most people are too indifferent or cowardly to do it. Both of them have spines of steel. This woman whom Tucker is interviewing - who else is giving her a voice? Kudos to him for confronting the trans-identity complex head on. On this issue, he's on the side of the angels.
Tucker was right the first time.
Males have been conditioned over the last 10 years to not provide leadership. Is there an institution in the west that is not female dominated or dominated by men who have bought into the concept that their gender is inherently evil and that the worst thing they can do is “mansplain”? Of course there are men who take that position cynically as a way to advance but that, in itself, is a very feminine tactic.
My blood was boiling watching this.
Kids are confused in their teens.
Not a reason to mutilate them for life.
Shame on any medical doctor who enables this behavior.
They should be prosecuted...
The Disney CEO is a good example of failed male leadership.
I wonder how much the Obamacare diminishing of surgical incomes has to do with the willingness of surgeons to do these mutilating operations? The "Recovered Memories" hysteria was fed by psychologists seeking another revenue source when health insurance stopped paying for their services. The APA had courses on "How to recover memories" and the hysteria stopped suddenly when malpractice insurance quit covering it. A few medical malpractice suits against these "clinics" might end the whole thing.
Hollywood will turn her story into a comedy.
Tootsie II.
"I was a better woman with you as a man than I was with a man as a woman."
Or is it vice-versa?
Needs more work.
If that is fascinating, what does that say about Captain Joe?
When my buddy gets elected to the Nebraska Unicameral, he’s going to introduce a bill stopping all this transitional medical stuff until the age of majority. It’s crazy that children can be given puberty blockers but have to wait until 19 in NE to legally buy beer.
" ... now speaking out against pushing children to transition:"
"Leave those kids alone." Pink Floyd.
Althouse, you amaze me! You listen to a three-minute discussion, in which a young woman talks about, among other things, girls younger than 16 having their breasts cut off, by adults (quite possibly male adults), and what you come away with is TuCa saying "male" and then correcting himself with "adult". Presumably indicating that in TuCa's biased little inner mind-of-minds, adult leadership is male.
So, is this because you are a feminist? Does feminism mean being so alert for "sexism" that mention of unnecessary mastectomies performed on children passes unremarked? Maybe it's a lawyer's habit.
Maybe it is a failure of male leadership. A "surgeon" who cuts the breasts off a sixteen-year-old girl deserves to be tied to a pole in the public square and shot until dead. I don't guess we can expect most women to arrange that. At the same time, in the accounts I have read, it is usually the mother who tries the protect her daughter from these criminal monsters. Fathers try to protect our sons, from the crazy women, often step-mothers, who want to emasculate them. But we feel a certain reticence about daughters. How is a man supposed to know what a woman wants? How can he tell her she wants something other than what she claims to want?
That was no mere slip. It was a fully well-clothed comment, not just one piece of a woman's undergarments. That was an entirely planned and purposeful comment.
What he really wanted to say was that college-educated white women are the worst.
"Or... I suspect it's something that he knows will excite his viewers and he liked teasing that idea..."
Nuts. Look. I found her a rather plain young woman. Until she talks for a while, and her personality began to work on me, and she began to seem quite attractive. I expect she had the same effect on TuCa, but he kept that to himself until he had managed to turn it into something socially acceptable, about how suffering had "deepened" her. Would you be happier if he had said, "Christ, you wanted to cut those off?!?"?
What I noticed, in TuCa's diction, was the phrase "take advantage". He said that adults were "taking advantage" of children. I hadn't considered it that way, and I had to ask myself what advantage there could be, to an adult, in persuading a naive, insecure and impressionable child to undergo hideous, permanent mutilation. What explains the fervency with which these monsters ply their awful trade?
She was extremely articulate. The "cult of transgerism", well put.
His slip was not even worth commenting on.
"It's possible he was thinking "medical leadership,""
Yes, and in the following sentence he mentioned "medically irreversible."
Yeah, I have recently come to wonder if this transitioning is all middle and upper middle white women situation.
Stats would be interesting. How many are married. How many divorced. How many never married. How many Lez?
I can understand anybody accepting, maybe unhappily, that their older teen is lez or gay. But drugs and operations on kids considered to young to drink alcohol
does seem irresponsible .
Tucker Carlson pivots back to a safe space of bigotranny red meat so you people forget he's a Neo-Stalin hero of the MAGA-Putin-Xi Axis of Evil.
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Males have been conditioned over the last 10 years to not provide leadership. Is there an institution in the west that is not female dominated ..
Crime show fiction seems to all have a woman in charge. And, seems to be a lot of women police and fire chiefs. Maybe they are actually more qualified as leaders than the men in competition for the job.
“The slip is that he said it, that thing that he thinks.”
Oh boy… hungry Thought Police on the prowl for Thought Crimes. What next!?!?
I took the slip to mean that men are in charge of everything. Tucker instantly realized that assumption which is never said out loud was inappropriate especially since he was speaking to a young woman who is clearly in charge of her own life. Maybe subconsciously he felt he was talking with another guy.
"Tucker Carlson pivots back to a safe space of bigotranny red meat so you people forget he's a Neo-Stalin hero of the MAGA-Putin-Xi Axis of Evil."
Howard has put his finger on it.
Howard, take your finger off it.
Groomer Enabler Howard: "Tucker Carlson pivots back to a safe space of bigotranny red meat so you people forget he's a Neo-Stalin hero of the MAGA-Putin-Xi Axis of Evil."
Its astonishing how many billions Biden is delivering to Putin through insane lefty oil and gas regulations and the lunatic mullah-rewarding Iran deal.
Putin has never before reaped such a windfall.
Heckuva job Howard.
Make Putin/Mullahs/ChiComs Wealthy Again is the current US policy.
Unsurprisingly, those are the same people who have spent billions purchasing the Bidens.
Unexpectedly.
I suspect Howard has about 4 or 5 difgerent Magic Eight Balls with different typical dem/groomer talking points and Howard simply shakes them all up and types out whatever combination pops up at Althouse blog.
There is no other explanation that comes close to explaining the projection/incoherence.
"Tucker Carlson pivots back to a safe space of bigotranny red meat so you people forget he's a Neo-Stalin hero of the MAGA-Putin-Xi Axis of Evil."
Howard just vomits out whatever is on his so-called mind. The amount of money Putin is getting from Biden exceeds his fantasies. Oil sales plus the Iran deal would be a nice retirement bonus for Putin.
Drago's not the sharpest doorknob in the bag of hammers. He just now after 10-years "Had What Alcoholics Refer to as a ‘Moment of Clarity.'”
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I suspect Howard has about 4 or 5 difgerent Magic Eight Balls with different typical dem/groomer talking points and Howard simply shakes them all up and types out whatever combination pops up at Althouse blog.
There is no other explanation that comes close to explaining the projection/incoherence.
Sure it's a slip of the tongue but it does reflect the idea (notion, perception, reality?) that for most of the centuries when adults were unquestionably in charge, men were also in charge.
If you can find another Elizabeth I or Margaret Thatcher or somebody like that to head things up, she'd do fine, too. If all you get are the kind of women who are governing the Scandinavian countries, that won't help much.
“The slip is that he said it, that thing that he thinks.”
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in the context of this interview - obviously he is in the mode of knight-errantry thinking and being male said it out loud
It sounds like clitorectomies for young girls will be coming back in style soon.
You don't have to watch many hours of news readers to catalog a sizeable cache of of verbal flubs. Tucker is probably four decades away from shaking hands with Harvey the Rabbit, like the current resident of the third floor at 1600 Pennsylvania avenue.
"Drago's not the sharpest doorknob in the bag of hammers. He just now after 10-years "Had What Alcoholics Refer to as a ‘Moment of Clarity.'”
Most of us know you are just pulling shit out of your ass Howard. You aren't here to actually discuss topics, just hurl pathetic insults.
“Howard has put his finger on it.
Howard, take your finger off it.”
And pull your head out of that dank passage, not a good look…
Groomer Enabler Howard: "Drago's not the sharpest doorknob in the bag of hammers. He just now after 10-years "Had What Alcoholics Refer to as a ‘Moment of Clarity.'”
I believe Howard intended for his comment to mean something.
I suppose.
"I believe Howard intended for his comment to mean something."
I don't think the term,"stumblebum" , is used often enough.
"I believe Howard intended for his comment to mean something."
I took it as an admission that there is no real logic to his "arguments". He is just throwing out random shit to see if he gets a response.
New rule: Every error is Freudian, Every gaffe Kinsleyan.
New rule: Every error is Freudian, Every gaffe Kinsleyan.
Any political party that embraces mutilation of young boys and girls should not be trusted with ANY of their fetishistic policy preferences. In a sane world people would be ashamed to vote for Democrats, if only for failing to protect the most vulnerable in our society.
BTW: Is Howard really AI programmed by a transsexual on LSD?
I thought since she had said some about young boys prior to him speaking- he had boys in his ear and thought they model after men and men are failing them. He made a connection, then broadened it. Idk.
Althouse- would you dare say what you were honestly thinking?
Maybe once. Out of an uncountable many. Other than that- would I know it if I saw it?
No.
Jupiter- I think see did “cut those off” and then have implants again. Possibly. But, are her mammary glands gone? If a young woman has a double mastectomy, she’ll never produce milk to feed her children - if she were to have them and want to feed them that way. And it’s such a hormonal watershed moment.
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