That's a big topic in the news this morning, but I'm not just catching up with it. Meade and I hashed it all out in text at 6:20 last night after Meade sent me a screenshot of a comment from RMc on yesterday's post about the Twitter board accepting Elon Musk's offer:
RNc's comment is funny because so many people — including me — immediately jumped from seeing that Elon got his way to wondering when Trump would be back. I responded to Meade's text with a WaPo article that had come out at 6:02 PM, saying that Trump says he won't come back.
I added — and I'll correct 2 glitches inserted by the iPad handwriting-to-text function — "Trump needs a special invitation to come back - he's not going to be in the position of asking and risking rejection."
Meade took Trump's rejection of Twitter seriously: "I think he wants to be re-elected and tweeting helped him in 2016 but would only hurt him in 2024."
I admit that I want him back on Twitter because I enjoy his pithy contributions to the national conversation: "Good! I like him as a tweeter who isn't President." For me, if tweeting hurts Trump's potential for getting reelected, that's another reason to want him back on Twitter. But I've undercut my skepticism that he's serious about not wanting to come back.
But I said if. And I don't think tweeting will hurt his bid for reelection. He's the genius of Twitter. Of course, he needs to reassume his reign there. He won't turn it down because he also wants to reassume his reign in the White House. He wants both. Look at all the things Elon Musk has amassed. Is Trump a lesser man than Musk? The big men need to look as big as possible.
In that light, Trump won't ask to return and be dependent on Musk allowing it. There must be an invitation and a loud demand for Trump to return. It will be an entire drama with a narrative arc. We're in the will-he-won't-he stage of the drama.
But Meade said: "He has his own platform. That’s all he needs to get his message out. I think he’ll move on from his battle with the media. Claim victory, move on."
His own platform is bad. It's dead. He can't want to rule over that. It's too small. And the great fun of Twitter is — or was and will be again — that everybody's there in the same arena and if you say something, you get reactions, including negative reactions. And Trump gets tremendous energy from his enemies' negativity.
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I predict that one of musks first acts will be a blanket amnesty. This will include pedjt but not as a specific invite.
I also predict that pedjt won't be back. It would be counterproductive to his Truth social network.
(my proposed ad slogan: "Why post a Tweet when you can post a Truth?")
He may post a single Tweet thanking Musk or otherwise saying he, trump, won his battle with Twitter. Otherwise I'll be surprised to see him there.
John LGKTQ Henry
Why doesn’t Ann want Trump re-elected? Does she enjoy high gas prices? Does she enjoy 8.5-10% inflation? Does she enjoy an emboldened Russia? Does she care that flooding the border with illegal aliens, depressing real-world wages of the middle class, after we experienced the first real gains in wages for the middle class in 50 years? What the hell was wrong with any of that? But no mean tweets, right? That’s what happening now; a complete shit-show. Any and all gains the middle class made during the Trump years have all been wiped out and worse, have gone the other direction.
Are we better off than we were just two years ago? The answer is clearly no. My life is now demonstrably poorer. Thanks, assholes.
Since both Twitter and Truth each now claim a true free speech policy, would they merge into one? Trump’s primary reason for building Truth no longer exists.
In that light, Trump won't ask to return and be dependent on Musk allowing it. There must be an invitation and a loud demand for Trump to return.
That is my sense of it too. I don't think it is an ego thing for this decision for Trump, though he certainly has a big ego. It is a negotiation tactic. He can't risk asking to come back and being turned down, nor just being allowed to come back without any specific statement about him. He wants twitter to want him.
I hope he doesn't. What he should do is go on whichever platform liberals are planning to flee to/create next. This is for 2 reasons. First, no other reason is really needed except salt production. Second, salt production aside, his banning outright on platforms that aren't twitter proves his point that it was never what he says or what he said, it's him they're targeting.
Trump is the penis flasher in the subway station of liberal echo chambers. This time he should follow them when they decide to Uber.
Unfortunately, if you don't have apple...you can't access Trumps site. I don't own anything Apple, so I can't access it.
Biden seems to have a public appearance every weekday (weekends are for recharging in his coffin in the soil of his almost native Delaware or for being drugged and reprogrammed). And he says something stupid at almost every one.
I don't know if television covers his remarks but they don't play up the gaffes and blunders. Maybe it's not mean tweets, but the line between Trump and Biden was less clear than people claim.
How Trump and Biden are covered makes a big difference. The media have no trouble looking away when Biden says something stupid, but they are all over every Trump tweet. Maybe there's a kind of love underneath all the hate.
Truth just merged with Dan Bongino’s alternative to Twitter, Rumble.
When the deal closes, I will sign up tor Twitter for the first time.
"Since both Twitter and Truth each now claim a true free speech policy, would they merge into one?"
Just don't call it Truther.
Trump came on the national stage in 2016 as a naïve optimist. He truly meant what he said: Make America Great Again by returning to the standards and practices of his youth.
His major error was trying to "drain the swamp" when 95% of the establishment benefited from the swamp and indeed had created the swamp. No allies = no chance of success in even draining the toilet. Trumps major first failure point was sitting on stage with Pelosi and Schumer for some unity effort, but then attacking them both publicly. Any deal maker (i.e., Trump) knows this is a fool's strategy. His potential DC relationships and hope for draining anything died at that moment. John McCain cemented the antagonism upon circulating the (obvious to all) phony Steele dossier...and who was then effectively sainted upon his death...
Trump likely realized his gross tactical errors in 2020 with the state-by-state election funny business (as backed by many Republicans too), Jan 6, and his shunning by the tech establishment. The swamp creatures had been patient with the invader, but were Machiavellians from the start and to the last.
Trump learned something. Was DC good before? NO. Was it better during Trump? NO. Will the dynamic change moving forward? Perhaps.
Now that he is in competition, it makes perfect sense. This is the worst thing that could have happened to Truth Social.
Althouse, “It will be an entire drama with a narrative arc. We're in the will-he-won't-he stage of the drama.“
Great insight by Ann. Trump is always about the drama. It’s second nature to him.
Devin Nunes took the job at Truth. I wonder what his reaction was to the Musk purchase.
The only way twitter would buy Truth was for its software. Like when Ameritrade bought Think or Swim.
Trollinator1000 said...Why doesn’t Ann want Trump re-elected?
I want Trump's policies, I just don't want Trump. The constant fighting got really tiresome. And while "no mean tweets" is a petty and childish reason to vote against someone, I want a president who will treat the office with a bit of dignity.
There is at least 1 person out there who fits the bill. So, no. I don't want Trump back in the White House despite that fact that he was a far better president than Biden and would be far better than whoever the Dems replace Biden with.
It seems like his software engineers could code something that would crosspost from his Truth website to Twitter. Lots of apps do that. My Instagram account automatically posts to Facebook. I used to have a Twitter account, and I believe there was an option to crosspost to Facebook from that as well.
"It would be counterproductive to his Truth social network."
Who would notice?
Trump's Troof Social isn't a detectable competitor with past present and future Twitter. TS is an ATM machine for Donnie.
Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance
Were crossing from anger to denial and theres so much more ahead. Grab the popcorn, this will be fun, fun, fun.
"Why doesn’t Ann want Trump re-elected?"
Too divisive. If some of this policies are good, let them be adopted by a more normal style candidate.
Also, he's too old. Time for the under 70 kids to have their day.
The visionary business plan of Trump Media & Technology Group is for Truth Social to disrupt Twitter and Facebook. Then they are going after Netflix, Disney, CNN, and iHeart Media with TMTG+ and TMTG News. Long term, the TMTG tech stack will take on Amazon Web Services, Microsoft Azure, Google Cloud, and Stripe (what the hell is Stripe?). DWAC, the company that has a merger agreement to take TMTG public, has a market capitalization of over $1 billion dollars.
So, yes, Donald Trump will be back on Twitter by the end of the year. The lawsuits will follow.
"Does Trump mean it when he says he doesn't want to get back on Twitter?"
Does he mean anything he says?
Other than his boasts about his superiority to others in all spheres of knowledge or endeavor, I suspect his verbiage (and Twitterage) is unremitting bullshit, all part of his ongoing grift, charming the rubes, suckering the marks, and aggrandizing himself.
(This is not to say this isn't also true of many other public figures and politicians, but Trump is a master of the art.)
What I think is rather comical is all of the projection onto Elon Musk on what people think he's going to do, without any insight at all besides a few recent natterings from him, on what he'd like to see. All of a sudden, Musk is a conservative Hero / Villain, depending on one's political neuroses. What happens if he's neither? That's where my money is, and I incidentally think it might be for the best.
Althouse at 8:46. Right on both accounts
Me too.
Mike MJB
I don't think that Truth and Rumble merged. I am pretty sure they are still completely separate businesses.
What did happen is actually much bigger. Rumble, a few years ago, saw what was happening with platforms getting cancelled by being kicked off Amazon Web Services and other providers.
Rumble built their own infrastructure along the lines of AWS. They sell hosting services much the same way that AWS does but with the promise of not cancelling for speech. I took a quick look the other night and I think they will host even small websites but I did not see how to sign up.
They are providing the infrastructure on which Truth and potentially other free speech websites ride.
Next step is for Musk to provide similar free speech hosting on Starlink(?) though there should be no need for Rumble or Truth to go there.
Agreed, Aggie.
Books and covers.
Witnessed an exchange between a Trumpeter &a hater. My. Funny b/c the Trumpeter says what Trollinator echoes: do you like paying 5$ gas and 20$ hamburgers? All b/c you think a guy is an asshole? “I think he’s an asshole” is such an intelligent argument, eh? I swear- there’s no observation of policy when it comes to mean tweets. Or, “do you think a president should be saying that”? Grab them by the pussy. It doesn’t matter if the counter argument is: it was mid 2000s, it was on a private bus, it was recorded w/out knowledge- it was waaaay before a presidential run… it’s 100% true!!
Divisiveness. For standing up against untruths and the bullying of a president!
Good Lord.
You won't get Trump policies without Trump. You will get Bush policies with pretty much any Republican, probably even DeSantis, though I am willing to give the Florida governor a chance.
However, the Presidency is probably not going to be good for Trump himself- if they can't stop him from winning in 2024 by hook or by crook, they will assassinate him. I think the only reason he wasn't killed in 2016 is because no one in power took seriously that he could win.
Yancy- I thought of that, too.
If Musk lifts the ban, I think it likely Trump reactivates his account on Twitter, even though it is a competitor. He will do it just to annoy his detractors.
Cook prefers WW3 to overlooking Trump’s obvious warts. Trump is too popular with the workers of the world and might unite them; yuck!
Trump can always change his mind and Musk is helping turn this country back to a one of freedom.
Leadership is Trump’s forte. The messaging tools are still just tools for him to lead. He will use them all. The idea that leadership offends the elite class is nonsense. It frustrates them. It is too American middleclassy to be allowed stage time.
Like Patton, his only offense is in showing them up by winning for American middle class voters. But now after we have had a rigged election count we must enjoy losing everything we had.
Trump says a lot of things. Trump coming back to Twitter, or not, will not break the world no matter what Libs of TikTok say.
Everything Trump says or does has been banned on Twitter. If that ban is lifted, Trump doesn't have to personally be on Twitter to be on Twitter. Everything he says and does will be posted/linked by someone...many someones.
He's got his own platform, although I don't know how much of his own cash is on the line.
It would be like the CEO of GM driving a Ford...
Can we briefly pause to note that irrespective of political affiliation, Trump has been the most consequential President in at least 60 years. He was the disrupter that will change everything. Love him or hate him, he is the focus of all politics.
Trump is an instrument of political hygiene.
DJT will post on both platforms (he can be two places at once) for the immediate future and then later on merge with Twitter in "the best deal anyone has ever made" with the terms covered by an NDA "that Elon insisted upon."
Elon will issue cryptic but witty tweets, saying things like "you get what you pay for", "each got what he deserved", "I can't tell you the best part", and "Pres. DJT is a star".
Too divisive. If some of this policies are good, let them be adopted by a more normal style candidate.
You simply can't be this naive. You can't.
Until he decided to run for president as a Republican, everyone loved Trump. He had a hit TV show. He was feted and given awards.
Trump became divisive when he dared to challenge and threaten the Left's power. The way he became divisive was through a deliberate campaign coordinated by the government agencies, MSM and the Democratic Party, partly based on a dossier that everyone knew was fake.
What is more divisive, mean tweets or a campaign of deliberate lies? The MSM and Democratic Party did this because they knew it would work on people like you.
If a "more normal style" candidate (perhaps another Romney eager to roll over and show his belly?) adopted any of Trump's policies, they would immediately be labeled divisive and the MSM would start to destroy them, and then you'd clutch your pearls and long for boredom.
While I hope Musk succeeds in what he claims to want, I think the likely outcome is this.
Musk buying Twitter makes Trump's investment not very worth while.
I don't watch either unless someone links to an item.
Recent history shows the "normal politician advocating conservative (MAGA) positions" will get no respect at all.
Consider Mike Pence. No mean tweets. No sexual affairs, no accusations of favoritism. Pretty solid conservative. Hates rockin' the boat. Vastly more articulate than, say, Dan Quayle, let alone Kamala Harris. And the quietest figure on the Washington Stage since Calvin Coolidge.
Respected?
Musk has committed to verifying human behind every account!
Is Trump mere mortal human or God
Ann Althouse said...
"Why doesn’t Ann want Trump re-elected?"
Too divisive.
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Law divides and Fence divides - so who is against law/fence?
So Trump is too divisive? Was it Trump who called over half of America irredeemable deplorables? (Clinton). Did Trump tell blacks that Republicans were going to put them all in chains? (Biden) Did Trump call mothers expressing their views at school board meetings domestic terrorists (Garland, Trump). Did Trump establish a domestic front against white Americans, calling them the greatest threat of domestic terrorism without ANY credible evidence? (Wray/Garland/Biden) Did Trump call election reform laws that the Supreme Court has approved and the American people overwhelmingly support (including majorities of blacks and Hispanics) Jim Crow 2.0 and the people passing the laws racists? (Biden)
I could go on. Find me a quote from Trump against a group of Americans that is similar to these. I rest my case.
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Trump's problem is that, while he did some really good things, he is fundamentally petty. There is no smart-alec reporter that he won't wrestle in press conferences, there is no cabinet member that he won't denigrate, there is no rival (no matter how friendly) that he won't belittle.
He needs to pick his spots better. His loyalists are going to vote for him, but who is he going to persuade? What was he thinking in those Georgia Senate races? Brian Kemp is not Trump's enemy. Brad Raffensperger is not Trump's enemy. Stacey Abrams is Trump's enemy. Rafael Warnock is Trump's enemy. Jon Ossoff is Trump's enemy. Now we are stuck with a 50-50 Senate, at best. Look at all the mischief they have done in 15 months.
The thing I most detested about Obama was his "us and them" rhetoric with full use of strawman opponents. Trump does something different, but he gets the same effect. With Trump, political controversy becomes personal and petty very quickly. Trump is big physically and he certainly takes up all the space in a room. But too often he acts small and mean.
Presidents should transcend pettiness. Obama didn't, but he got away with it. Trump didn't, and he paid a price. We are stuck with the consequences.
Another thing. Ever since Nixon got chased out of office, both parties have become fixated on trying to undo the last election, rather than looking forward to winning the next one. Impeach 'em! That's the answer!
Look forward, folks. That is where the rocks are. That is where opportunity is.
"Trump...too often...acts small and mean."
That is because he is small and mean. You have succinctly summed him up with one simple phrase.
Merge was too strong. "Partners with" is how Forbes wrote about it. Yes they are hosting Truth on Rumble servers.
Gotta love Howard's contributions: Trump's Troof Social isn't a detectable competitor with past present and future Twitter. TS is an ATM machine for Donnie.
Considering Twitter took years to make a profit, finally generating one about 3 years ago, how exactly is Trump (at this stage) investing in TS in any way plausibly described as using it as an ATM? I'm truly curious how you worked the math of that concept out. You're not one of those Math Deniers from the other day are you?
Well what timing!
Recent history shows the "normal politician advocating conservative (MAGA) positions" will get no respect at all. Consider Mike Pence... Respected?
According to the De Moines Register he "received a warm welcome" yesterday -- YESTERDAY -- as he visited there exploring a run for President in 2024. Yes he is respected. Maybe you are confusing him with newly minted SCOTUS Justice Brown's brother-in-law Paul Ryan? Funny how no media outlet ever sought him out for comment isn't it.
And really what do you mean by normal?
"Why doesn’t Ann want Trump re-elected?"
Too divisive.
And Biden isn't divisive? Puhleeez. (Remember how the unvaccinated could look forward to a winter of illness and death, e.g.?) The divisiveness comes from the media, who support Biden but don't support Trump. It's the media in a Trump presidency who are divisive.
There are many, many more twitter accounts I'd like to see re-instated before Trump.
Good, clean, well researched and informative accounts, not to mention real time eye-witness reporting.
I don't think people realize how much information and perspective big tech has removed from public consumption. Straight up thought control.
Trump is low hanging fruit.
The last thing serious people need in their lives right now is an endless conversation about what Trump just tweeted.
In my opinion...
Meade writes, "That’s all he needs to get his message out. I think he’ll move on from his battle with the media. Claim victory, move on."
If the Durham investigation gets access to that so-called "privileged" correspondence between Perkins Coie and Fusion GPS, Trump won't need to claim victory. It will be up to Rachael Maddow et al. to claim ignorance.
"Trump is low hanging fruit"
That's what she said
If the opposition to the Democrats doesn't get together in a united front, pretty soon there is no opposition.
Case in point: Illinois. There is no opposition to speak of in the worst-governed state in the Union (accent on the "union"). Our proudest industry and greatest export is governmental failure and waste. Come see the monolith being erected to Obama in Jackson Park (but for how long will the park be named for Andrew Jackson?).
Next up: Colorado. Arizona is on deck, and Georgia is in the hole.
Maybe hispanic voters will save the Republic. White college graduates won't.
Wow, I'm a label! Thank you, dear lady!
Until he decided to run for president as a Republican, everyone loved Trump.
I'm convinced that, if Hillary hadn't run, Trump could've won the presidency as a Democrat in 2016.
Trollinator1000 said...
Why doesn’t Ann want Trump re-elected?
I think Trump had a lot of good policies
But he absolutely sucked at personnel, and in DC, "personnel is policy"
I think that DeSantis would probably have policies that are as good as Trump's but would be far better at actually implementing them.
See: Trump endorsing "Dr Oz" for the PA GOP Senate Primary
Amadeus 48 said...
Brian Kemp is not Trump's enemy. Brad Raffensperger is not Trump's enemy
Kemp and Raffensperger watched the Fulton County Democrats kick out all the poll watchers and reporters because they were "going to stop counting", and then continued "counting" votes with no one watching
And their response to that was "fraud, I don't see any fraud here!"
The ARE Trump's enemy
And every Republican voter's enemy
Greg tCT--there was a hand recount of the Fulton County paper ballots as part of a state-wide audit of the election--ordered by Kemp--and it resulted in Trump's gaining 345 votes, probably because of human error on election night. Trump lost Georgia by 12,000 votes. Then, in January 2021, after doses of Trump toxic waste, both Republicans lost in Georgia runoff elections. Trump spent December and January saying that the GOP infrastructure in Georgia was rigged against him. Do you think that caused many people in Georgia to say, why, he's right; we better turn out so that we can support that New York loudmouth against these people we elected to these offices. Why was Trump determined to shoot at his own troops during those run-offs?
I never yet have understood why Trump kibitzers like Sydney Powell went down to Georgia and said Republican voters shouldn't participate in the run-off elections because they were "rigged". That wasn't smart. That wasn't helpful. And Rudy Giuliani talked a lot, but he never has--he hasn't yet--come up with any evidence of wide-spread voter fraud that would have changed the outcome of the election.
Andrew Jackson campaigned in 1828 against the "corrupt bargain" in 1824 that had put J. Q. Adams in the White House. If anyone thinks that Donald Trump or the GOP is going to win in 2024 by rehashing the outcome of Trump's incompetent 2020 campaign, they may well be in for a rude awakening. I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020. I was sorry he lost. He did a lot of things right as President. But his 2020 campaign was totally incompetent--he ran the 2016 campaign again--rallies,that's the ticket! Where was his ballot-harvesting operation? The rules had all changed in many places. Where were competent legal challenges to the voting law changes in the summer, when it might have made a difference? Where was any reaction to the changes? Trump ran behind many Republicans down the ticket (that's how the GOP picked up 15 HR seats in an election that their presidential candidate lost). Maybe he isn't that popular with some of center-right voters. Biden didn't campaign. This was a referendum on Donald J. Trump.
Personally, I think Trump lost the election during the Covid-19 White House press conferences. That is when he really alienated a lot of people. And Tony Fauci and Deborah Birx were not his friends and had their own agendas. He got the worst of both worlds: he properly turned over the responsibility for everyday activity to the state governments, and then he spit-balled ideas from the podium at the White House. And he seemed to be part of the "zero Covid" cult for a long time. I never knew what his goal was. Operation Warp Speed was brilliant, but he got no credit for it. Remember how Pfizer held back on its vaccine announcement until the week after the election? Now Trump acolytes are anti-vaccine. Great.
I'll say it again: we need to look forward. That is where the obstacles are. That is where the opportunities are.
Amadeus 48 said...
Greg tCT--there was a hand recount of the Fulton County paper ballots
It's too late at that point.
The people "counting the ballots" have full access to the ballots, the ability to do whatever they wanted, with no one monitoring them. Fulton cCounty is refusing / unable to provide the paperwork detailing how all the ballots made it there.
The point of poll watchers is that their job is to block the poll workers from committing fraud that can't be caught at any other stage
It's too late to do a "hand recount" of ballots, when you can no longer trust the ballots
https://federalinquirer.com/fulton-county-admits-it-is-missing-documentation-for-an-astonishing-number-of-absentee-ballots/
On Monday, the Georgia Star published a report showing that Fulton County admitted to missing chain-of-custody records for absentee ballots that were put into “drop boxes.”
“Seven months after the election, Fulton County has failed to provide the transfer forms for approximately 19,000 drop box absentee ballots,” The Star News reported.
19k votes is greater than the margin for Biden's "victory" in GA
An honest Sec of State would have investigated, and found out that those forms were missing election week. But instead of doing his official job, which is ensuring election integrity, Raffensperger did his preferred "job", which is hiding any evidence of malfeasance so he can pretend the elections are honest.
No matter how much vote suppression Southern Democrats inflicted on blacks in the past, that does not give blacks the right to engage in vote fraud now.
Any "Republican" who isn't willing to take that position is my enemy
GregTCT: I monitored polls in downtown Atlanta for 20 years. Yes, there is fraud. Yes, the poll boxes likely exacerbated fraud.
But then the very people crying fraud did the enormously stupid thing of listening to Steve Bannon and Jenny Beth Martin and stayed home instead of voting in the Senate races because someone might "steal their vote." They followed these crooks and idiots off the cliff.
And that was more consequential than Trump losing. We would have had a split legislature, then a likely Republican House and Senate, and Biden would have been forced to behave differently.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. Will Republicans and conservatives ever talk issues and get a damn game plan?
No. They won't. Anyone who participated in throwing the Senate because Kelley Loeffler has long blonde hair or whatever voted in their own damn fate, and not only can they live with it, but we can identify them because it's public record whether they voted or not.
So we know who the idiots are, and I hope they learned something. But I doubt it.
"Any 'Republican' who isn't willing to take that position is my enemy."
Yeah. We have had a lot of that attitude in Illinois, and the GOP has pretty much disappeared.
A no-hoper in the GOP primary for the Senate seat that Peter Fitzgerald decided not to contest thought it would be a good idea to get the divorce records of Jack and Geri Ryan unsealed. Jack was a very attractive candidate with a compelling story, and he was movie-star handsome. He had been married to Geri Ryan of Star Trek and Boston Legal. The horrible Chicago Tribune picked up the idea. A Democrat judge in California unsealed the records over both Jack and Geri's objections. Guess what? There was a custody battle and Geri made some accusations about Jack taking her to a swingers' show in Paris, where nothing happened. Yup. In Illinois, if you are a Republican, you can get into a sex scandal with your own wife where there is no sex. Exit Jack Ryan.
The geniuses running the Illinois GOP then thought it would be a good idea to run a black guy against Obama for Senate, so they imported Alan Keyes, who halfway through the campaign came out in favor of reparations for black Americans. Who knew?
We found out where the bottom was on the Republican vote in Illinois when Keyes got 29% of the votes in the general election. Obama was on his way.
Republicans have to stick together, because the Dems do. Gerry Nadler and Adam Schiff should be pushed out to sea in a leaky life raft with Maxine Waters manning the pump, but they are all honored by their party.
Greg--you can do better.
Tina Trent said...
GregTCT: I monitored polls in downtown Atlanta for 20 years. Yes, there is fraud. Yes, the poll boxes likely exacerbated fraud.
But then the very people crying fraud did the enormously stupid thing of listening to Steve Bannon and Jenny Beth Martin and stayed home instead of voting in the Senate races because someone might "steal their vote."
Actually, Tina, those people watched what the "republican Controlled Senate did. What it did was pass a "Covid relief bill that had billions in payoffs for Democrat groups, and ~$100 for them.
And they quite rationally asked "why should we get out and vote for Republicans who don't give a shit about us.
Mitch McConnell EARNED those loses.
But, to the extent people said "Fuck you. if you're not going to fight for us, you don't get our votes", I think that was a rational response.
The "NeverTrumpers" need to understand that there's no winning, and no graft for them, without the "Trump" side.
And if the NTs aren't willing to meet the Ts halfway, the Ts aren't going to close the gap
Trollinator1000
"Are we better off than we were just two years ago? The answer is clearly no."
Exactly what planet are you living on Sparky?
"I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."
April 23, 2020
“So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way…”
April 23, 2020
“You see states are starting to open up now, and it’s very exciting to see,”
April 23, 2020
Over 26 million jobless claims have been filed
April 23,2020
"Until he decided to run for president as a Republican, everyone loved Trump."
Well not everybody- guy couldn't get a loan from an NYC bank.
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