"To prove that there were W.M.D.s in Iraq, Putin said, 'the U.S. secretary of state held up a vial with white powder, publicly, for the whole world to see, assuring the international community that it was a chemical warfare agent created in Iraq. It later turned out that all of that was a fake and a sham, and that Iraq did not have any chemical weapons.' Hard to argue with that. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney let their own egos, gremlins and grandiose dreams occlude reality. W. wanted to outshine his father, who had decided against going into Baghdad when he fought Saddam. And Cheney wanted to kick around an Arab country after 9/11 to prove that America was a hyperpower. So they used trumped-up evidence, and Cheney taunted Colin Powell into making that fateful, bogus speech at the U.N., chockablock with Cheney chicanery. Though Donald Trump was Putin’s lap dog, upending traditional Republican antipathy toward Russia, Putin no doubt has contempt for the weak and malleable Trump. Putin could have been alluding to Trump in his speech Thursday when he accused the U.S. of 'con-artist behavior,' adding that America had become 'an empire of lies.' Certainly, Trump was the emperor of lies."
Writes Maureen Dowd, in "Rash Putin Razes Ukraine" (NYT).
७४ टिप्पण्या:
One of these things is not like the other.
This almost seems like a rote recitation of various Conservative figures in a talismanic fashion. Little to do with the current actual war going on, as there is precious little good news for her side of the cultural struggle. It's like all she has left is the Two Minutes Hate.
Sure, sure. Bush and Cheney United America. By 2008 everybody hated them. Most of us still do.
Things stand out very clearly in the "unipolar moment," though. We (or our leaders) have done stupid, crazy, or shifty things at other points in our history, but have had excuses for our misconduct.
Gus Portokalos:
Kimono, kimono, kimono. Ha! Of course! Kimono is come from the Greek word himona, is mean winter. So, what do you wear in the wintertime to stay warm? A robe. You see: robe, kimono. There you go!
I would think being that dead wrong (about Trump being Putin’s lapdog) would make your head really hurt.
Pleased to see that a Harvard-Harris poll out this morning shows 62% of Americans believe Putin would not have moved on Ukraine if Trump were still in office.
First hundred names in the Boston phone book, etc.
Of course she drags Trump in with Bush and Cheney, but he doesn't belong there. He wasn't "Putin's lapdog," nor was he "weak and malleable." The reference to the "con-artist behavior" of our "empire of lies" has to do with Bill Clinton, who extended NATO after the US had (I believe) given assurances that that wouldn't happen and send his campaign operatives to Russia to fix elections for Yeltsin. Obama and Biden weren't flim-flam men on that scale, but they certainly have a lot to answer for. Trump not so much. He stood up to Russia and also didn't unnecessarily antagonize her.
It is all Trump's fault. Pass it on.
Dowd says "Donald Trump was Putin’s lap dog," without evidence.
Russia is an energy-selling state. Trump led the US to be energy independent, reducing Russia's power over our economy.
Biden, by contrast, has weakened our energy industry, emulating Europe's suicidal green strategy, which puts them and us at risk of energy shortages.
So who's a good lap dog, really?
One word comes to mind. Deranged.
Dowd has father issues.
lot of alliteration there
Putin put up a bright red line, and respecting that from a peer nuclear power made Trump a "lapdog," and Dowd wonders how people get bamboozled into war. I liked the world better before this war broke out, thank you very much.
"destructive rides by leaders who put their personal psychodramas over the public’s well-being...."
To commentators like Dowd, all the world's a psychodrama.
"George W. Bush and Dick Cheney let their own egos, gremlins and grandiose dreams occlude reality."
How so? Bush said a lot of things, none tied to his "ego." In the end, something had to be done about Saddam--get rid of him, or let go of the leash. Bush misjudged the "evidence," such as it was, and the potential gains to the U.S., though I think those could have been greater. But removing Saddam turned out to be a piece of cake.
"And Cheney wanted to kick around an Arab country after 9/11 to prove that America was a hyperpower."
Even if he did, that's not "ego," but a geopolitical argument. Being perceived as a hyper power can be helpful, just as being perceived as woefully weak, like now, can be a disadvantage. Needs to be argued on the merits, not psycho babble.
"Though Donald Trump was Putin’s lap dog"
Wait, what? Progs are still flogging that dog?
"he accused the U.S. of 'con-artist behavior,' adding that America had become 'an empire of lies.'"
He has first-hand experience: the deep state helped manufacture lies against him. And the U.S. claims to oppose Putin but has in fact tried to help him by limiting energy supplies and approving Nord Stream II.
Good video on a conservative site (forget which!) of Trump chiding NATO officials on German lack of defense spending and kowtowing to Putin: odd lapdog, that Trump.
American energy independence makes the US stronger and the world much safer.
Hope the Republicans can effectively make that simple and virtually irrefutable point, but not counting on it …
Though Donald Trump was Putin’s lap dog,
Where's the actual proof of this?
Actual not-faked proof?
As Scott Adams might say, that girl is watching a different movie than I am.
Maureen sets a huge dominoes fall video, but she had misalignment failures along the way. So, instead of going back and starting over, she re-starts the dominoes fall, again, at the failure points and then goes back and edits the video to magically snuff out her interference to cover up her misalignment failures.
Pretty sneaky sis.
reminder for Maureen:
Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
"Empire of lies", the working definition of government.
We are stuck with it as part of the human condition. It's crazy and dangerous to delude ourselves into thinking it can be otherwise.
Some are worse than others, but that is as low as the bar can go.
The Dems cannot defend Biden’s incompetent handling of foreign policy so their only move is to continue to blame Trump as Putin’s tool. Russia Russia Russia has been the refrain for about 6 years. Just because Durham is exposing the con is no reason to stop using it, and indeed they will double-down on the smear and extend it to all GOP politicians as a key part of their November survival strategy.
Hive-mind collective left take in 3+ years of Putin+Trump lies, - is there a cure for this? A vaccine to correct their collective brains?
This is what you are forced to write to try to defend the present US government's executive branch.
Right, Maureen. The psychodrama of the Biden family that is the most screwed up and corrupt, but not mentioned here. Biden is compromised due to his brilliant son Hunter being bought by Ukraine, China, etc. Then there’s Jim Biden’s real estate developing in Iraq after the war. But, not a mention of the present occupant in the White House. Maureen is really reaching here to blame people who have vacated the White House and no longer in power for this current invasion by Putin??? She’s now giving us a history lesson.. But, let’s talk about current events.
Trump is not the President. Putin invaded while Biden is President.
Putin did not invade while Trump was the President.
No matter how much you want to blame Trump for this invasion, it happened on Biden’s watch. Comprende???
Trump did not scramble out of Afghanistan with his tail between his legs…that was Biden. The message was sent to Putin then.
The U.S. is in the hands of incompetent (corrupt) politicians and army Generals who are impotent under this President.
And, finally, Trump was wide awake at CPAC talking about the Russian invasion, while Biden was night night in Delaware.
Maureen Dowd mind-reading people's motives again. It's such fun. Anyone can play.
Remember in the 1991 Gulf War when there was speculation that the first Bush Administration tricked Saddam into invading Kuwait by deliberately leading him to believe we would not defend Kuwait?
People like Dowd are very afraid of Trump and the success he has had, in almost all of his work, that make left look inept. All they do is publish bunk to protect Biden and other minions who now look ridiculous. Who would have thought our country could be brought so low in a little over a year.
This weak stuff about Trump on Russia is drivel. One Trump comment that raised my brow at CPAC "only president in the 21st century on whose watch Russia did not invade another country."
That liberal NYC bubble is pretty strong. Dowd is not a stupid woman, yet she persists in the completely illogical assumption that Trump is Putin's lapdog.
US energy independence is what Putin fears. It was created under Trump and destroyed under Biden. Who is the obvious lapdog?
Remember Russia is a gas station with an army. Nothing more.
George W. Bush and Dick Cheney let their own egos, gremlins and grandiose dreams occlude reality.
If one objects to "ego," "grandiose dreams" still seems to be on target.
Even if he did, that's not "ego," but a geopolitical argument. Being perceived as a hyper power can be helpful, just as being perceived as woefully weak, like now, can be a disadvantage. Needs to be argued on the merits, not psycho babble.
There was so much fantasy and self-deception in Cheney's thinking that recourse to a little psychobabble is understandable and maybe even useful.
I'm sure Putin has Realpolitik reasons for what he's doing, but when historians write about what's going on now they will have to take his personality into account. Same with Bush, Cheney, Clinton, Biden, and anybody else.
As Scott Adams might say, that girl is watching a different movie than I am.
That girl is trying to create a different movie, big difference.
Meanwhile, Russia just put their nuclear forces on high alert.
What does anything she wrote have to do with what is currently going on in Europe? The Bush Administration has been out of office for fourteen years, they have nothing to do with this other to be an effigy she can vent on, I suppose.
Maureen Dowd? Is she still alive? I thought she passed back in the '90's?
What has surprised me the most about the history I have lived through has been that the Soviet empire disintegrated without a bloodbath AND that South Africa did away with apartheid without a resulting bloodbath.
If Putin is trying to reassemble the Soviet empire, he has a long way to go.
She was born with a stiletto heel right through her head
Boy they continue to be terrified of trump running against the sock puppet.
So much projection!
In a contretemps between Bush and Saddam or Trump and Kim, she thinks Bush and Trump are the demented ones....Saddam did not have WMD, but the lie about that was Saddam's lie and not that of Bush.
So, is this a signal Democrats consider Dick Cheney a dick again? All that hugging and handshaking on 6 Jan 2022 might have been just a performance?
So they’re still singing the “Donald Trump was Putin’s lap dog” song from way back despite all the evidence that sanctions, jawboning NATO members and calling out Germany for their dependence on Russian oil along with sanctions against Nordstream 2 were working to keep Putin in check. I just saw video of Trump warning Merkel about her dependence on Putin. Today WE are the ones dependent on Russian oil. Putin is our #1 supplier of oil and Biden, whose son worked for shady oil companies linked to Russia and China, refuses to cut off the $2B per week we are paying Putin for petroleum.
Maureen always struck me as snarky and dumb and this article does nothing to abuse me of that opinion. I believe Americans in general can see the situation clearer than these professional gaslighters ever could.
Germany just announced they are going to up there yearly defense spending to be over 2% of their GDP per year. This was what Trump was demanding when he was
supposedly insulting our allies and ruining NATO.
Apparently Maureen Dowd is another of those opinion writers for the NY Times who doesn't actually read ...... the NY Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?mtrref=archive.humanevents.com&gwh=91418FE03770CD8853CB8DC16233291D&gwt=pay&assetType=PAYWAL
One year ago we were the worlds #1 producer and exported to Germany to wean them off Russia’s teat.
Remember Russia is a gas station with an army. Nothing more.
Russia relies on oil and natural-gas sales for about 60% of its export revenue and 40% of its total budget expenditures.
Russia supplies 40% of Europe’s heating-fuel, mostly via two aging pipeline networks, one of which runs through Belarus and the other through Ukraine.
Here is Walter Russell Mead's famous analysis in 2017 of Trump/ Putin:
"If Trump were the Manchurian candidate that people keep wanting to believe that he is, here are some of the things he’d be doing:
"Limiting fracking as much as he possibly could
Blocking oil and gas pipelines
Opening negotiations for major nuclear arms reductions
Cutting U.S. military spending
Trying to tamp down tensions with Russia’s ally Iran."
Glenn Reynolds then noted in 2019, “You know who did do these things? Obama. You know who supports these things now? Democrats.”
Maureen needs to dust off her brain.
I notice in your snippet that the Republicans are evil and there is not a word about the Kennedy/Johnson war in Viet Nam which was easily the most costly ego trip in Dowd's lifetime (Born in '52).
First hundred names in the Boston phone book, etc.
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I dunno if I want to be governed by Alcoholics Anonymous and Triple-A.
Rash Putin. Maybe the headline is intended to draw a parallel to that other Russian charlatan who met an untimely death at the hands of insiders.
I thought she passed back in the '90's
Wishful thinking.
Can Of Cheese for Hunter said...
Hive-mind collective left take in 3+ years of Putin+Trump lies, - is there a cure for this? A vaccine to correct their collective brains?
Re-electing Trump.
Watching him tear apart the machine that subverted our democracy to destroy him and the GOPe shitheads that betrayed him.
Mark said...
Meanwhile, Russia just put their nuclear forces on high alert.
Putin is losing his hold on Russia.
Biden is losing his hold on the United States.
They both need an external enemy right now.
Putin bought Joe Biden. Joe is an honest politician; once bought, he stays bought. Joe "two-scoop ice cream cone" Biden torpedoed our energy independence on day one, giving Uncle Vlad the money he needed to stage his invasion.
Bush wasn't very smart. Cheney was a war monger and profiteer. And Powell was an affirmative action hire.
What could possibly go wrong?
@Althouse, please explain why you link to drivel like this? Is it because of "sisterhood"? Do you have fond memories of when Maureen Dowd might now and again have an interesting insight? The notion that Donald Trump was "Putin's lapdog" doesn't seem either interesting nor rooted in reality.
But you believe her assertion about Trump, don't you? Otherwise why link to Dowd's column and why, of all the word salad in that column, did you repeat her bogus assertion?
It's not a coincidence Putin has invaded Ukraine only when Democrat and establishment politicians have been in office.
Though Donald Trump was Putin’s lap dog, upending traditional Republican antipathy toward Russia, Putin no doubt has contempt for the weak and malleable Trump. Putin could have been alluding to Trump in his speech Thursday when he accused the U.S. of 'con-artist behavior,' adding that America had become 'an empire of lies.'
Haha, you can just smell the desperation here.
On a more serious note, ascribing Putin's actions to rashness or madness is not really productive, and has the effect of handwaving away failures by Western leaders, including Biden. I think Putin decided to act based on a rational calculus: he thought (1) that the Ukrainian front line would crumble swiftly and (2) that the US and EU would react more or less as they did in 2014, with a lot of table pounding and then some mostly cosmetic sanctions just so they could say they did something. Both of these were reasonable expectations!
I think everyone (myself most certainly included) has been surprised by the level of Ukrainian resistance, not just Russia. And you can clearly see how reluctant Biden and European leaders have been to impose sanctions that might actually be painful to Russia. At first the administration wanted very limited, microtargeted sanctions, complete with haggling over exemptions like Italian luxury goods. Then public outrage pushed them (and Germany) to agree to stronger measures, including cutting Russian banks off from SWIFT . . but only some banks they've already sanctioned, and they're still apparently trying to work out a way they can exempt energy payments (i.e. what Russia gets most of its money from) to minimise the practical impact.
If it were entirely up to Biden and EU leaders, it's clear Putin's calculus re: international reaction would have been more or less right. But the Ukraine has, unexpectedly, managed to excite public opinion amongst the citizenry of the Western democracies, and their governments have, as a result, been forced against their will towards imposing real consequences on Russia.
That's a serious miscalculation, but it's not irrational. The current state of affairs is not something I'd have judged probable, especially given that the people in charge today in the US are the same people from the Obama administration who mostly ignored the Russian invasion in 2014. I would never have expected public opinion to force the US administration's hand the way it has done, let alone force Germany to support real measures against Russia.
Apparently, Dowd is too feeble minded to know who is actually president these days. Next week's column will no doubt be about the expensive china Nancy Reagan bought for the White House.
Does Dowd still guzzle cosmos like marathon gatorade?
Donald Trump certainly was Putin's lapdog. I distinctly remember when he told Putin, "We're going to restrict our energy production so you can sell more and have power over Europe."
For some reason, when I look this up, I can't find it. Did Maureen and I both imagine it?
Though Donald Trump was Putin’s lap dog,
Well, that would certainly explain why Putin waited until Trump was out of office before invading.
"Pleased to see that a Harvard-Harris poll out this morning shows 62% of Americans believe Putin would not have moved on Ukraine if Trump were still in office."
Pleased? Why? That number should be 100 percent. I mean, it's not like we don't have a four-year sample size.
Ha Ha! Maureen used the word "psychodrama". That's hilarious!
This is the best the New York Times has to offer? This is what bitter cat-women all over the greater northeast want to read?
Ha Ha! Maureen used the word "psychodrama". That's hilarious!
This is the best the New York Times has to offer? This is what bitter cat-women all over the greater northeast want to read?
I would never have expected public opinion to force the US administration's hand the way it has done
Some people do have a conscience, believe it or not, and do not subscribe to the "fuck 'em, not my problem" sentiment too often on display here.
'It later turned out that all of that was a fake and a sham, and that Iraq did not have any chemical weapons.' Hard to argue with that.
Only if you're a liar or a total ignoramus
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/10/16/new-york-times-reports-wmd-found-in-iraq
The New York Times published an article this week that has re-ignited a 12-year-old debate: Was then-President George W. Bush right about Iraq? The report examined U.S. service personnel's encounters with abandoned chemical weapons in Iraq – and some conservatives were quick to pounce on the story as evidence that claims by Bush in the lead-up to the war that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction were true and that the United States' 2003 invasion was justified.
The article by Times reporter C.J. Chivers focused on U.S. soldiers who suffered from exposure to the sulfur mustard and other nerve gases which emitted from the bombs. According to the story, about "5,000 chemical warheads, shells or aviation bombs" were found scattered across Iraqi soil
I guess with MoDo I should embrace the healing power of "and".
I personally knew some medical staff that treated soldiers exposed to the REMNANTS of chemical WMDs in Iraq. I don’t understand how even Republicans buy the lie there were no WMD in Iraq when our own soldiers suffered, and some got disability for, the damaged caused them by being in the contaminated area where the WMDs were stored before they were moved out of country. The idea Iraq didn’t have dangerous WMDs is a lie the media spread and everyone was willing to swallow.
I will believe doctors and nurses who saw the damage to real human beings first hand before I believe any politician or talking head.
Dowd: "Putin no doubt has contempt for the weak and malleable Trump."
Amazing she could write that after four years of no Putin aggression during Trump's term. Absolutely amazing.
It shows that an insightful person -- and Dowd is -- can have blinders on the size of Texas.
Liberals make the most adorable chicken hawks. The only wars they are for are ones democrat presidents start. Nothing is stopping them from boarding a plane and going to fight in the Ukraine. You go girl!
I like the last president we had, who made us energy independent and sent the very weapons the Ukrainians are fighting with today. Not that dried up old pussy who has to wear diapers.
Balfegor 12:55 PM
I completely agree with your analysis of the situation
Shorter version: Ukraine fought back and surprised the hell out of everyone.
Thank you, M. Biological weapons (mustard gas, etc) are WMDs. And there was info on yellowcake that had to be taken seriously.
Mark said...
Some people do have a conscience, believe it or not, and do not subscribe to the "fuck 'em, not my problem" sentiment too often on display here.
You mean like the "fuck 'em, not my problem" sentiment you on the Left had for the Canadian truckers? For those who don't want to get the Covid shots, and therefore you want to deny them health care?
Then there's the American citizens who compete for jobs with teh illegal aliens your polices let in.
And the (mostly minority) people who get robbed, raped, and murdered because of "defund the police" / BLM proposed policing changes?
"Fuck 'em, not my problem" is pretty much the motto of the Left. Rather funny to see you pretending otherwise
The story that WMD were moved to the Bekaa Valley before the war has been widely circulated, but never officially and publicly confirmed, tot he best of my knowledge. We do know that SH had WMD which he never proved he had destroyed. That was the focus of the 17 UN Resolutions and the reason we went to war in the first place.
500 tons of uranium shipped from Iraq, Pentagon says
Story Highlights
Pentagon: U.S. secretly shipped Iraq's low-grade uranium dating back to Hussein era
Officials: U.S. military spent $70 million for the transport of materials to Canada
"Yellowcake" uranium transfer was requested by the Iraqi government
https://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium/
What a moron. Trump was not Putin's lap dog. He was polite and agreeable when dealing with Putin based on his years of actual work experience that told him he had to tread gently with petty dictators, like union bosses or city officials, to get the job done. He stymied Russia in place after place but was always solicitous. He recognized the Russians come with a chip on their shoulder, historically, so he set to neutralize that by acting respectfully. Contrast that to Obama, and now Brandon, who basically gave Putin everything he wanted but treated him like a punk.
Ms. Dowd’s whole career has been based on characterizing world events as personal psycho dramas of world leaders. Now she complains about that?
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