“Every time I talk to my roommate, she says that my taste is so ‘generic,’ ” Fiona [Forrester, 23,] recalled, clarifying, “generic and boring.”...
Her No. 1 priority is just finding a “nice person.” She favors “outdoorsy” guys, she said, who “are a bit more quiet. Like a mix between Jim from ‘The Office’ and Tom Holland in ‘Spider-Man.’ ”...
"[A] big no for me [is] if someone is impolite to anyone,” she said. Then she added, “Podcasts come up quite a lot in conversations and I feel like so many guys will ask me what I like and I’ll tell them a podcast and they’ll say they just listen to Joe Rogan.”
Following the media personality is a red flag for her, as everything she’s learned about him is “some wacky stuff.”
They match her with some bland, nice guy, and it turns out, "He is a Joe Rogan fan." ("But he did say he listens to other things as well.") We're not told how the "red flag" played out. How do "red flags" work these days? I know it's become part of ordinary relationship talk, but I don't know if "red flag" means "stop" (i.e., that's it, we're over) or just keep looking out for other "red flags" and at some point you've got to think about walking away.
In the actual "Date Lab" encounter, she rejects him, not because of Joe Rogan, but because she didn't feel "that chemistry, sparks, romantic-y vibe." I guess that's the polite way to say he wasn't sexy enough.
The top-rated comment over there — by someone with a masculine name (MichaelSL) — is:
“He is a Joe Rogan fan.”
If I happened to be a bright, attractive and friendly young woman, you couldn't find a bigger sledge hammer than that to clobber any thoughts of a potential relationship.
Ironically, for me, sudden jabbering about big clobbering sledgehammers is a turn off. Why the violent imagery at the mention of Joe Rogan? And why are you purporting to say what women think? And why, when you purport to say what women think, do you appropriate the persona of a "bright, attractive and friendly young" woman? I've had it with your lookism, ageism, brightism, and amiableism.
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At this point, maybe the men don't want such woke women. Who needs the drama?
Let's say you're a dog's tail, but you think you're the whole dog except for the tail. You think the rest of the dog is the tail. You're such a beautiful fine tail that everyone remarks on how fine you are. Now if you just could get rid of that damn dog.
Life would be perfect.
I say this as someone with no hatred towards Joe Rogan, I think Rogan would’ve been considered a red flag even without the current controversy. I think it’s seen as indicative of a man with basic, boring tastes.
Re: Violent imagery when Joe Rogan is brought up.
Subconcious response to Rogan as MMA fighrt and annoucer? Even though he is a commedian and interviewer, he is very not a beta male. He is a masculine male (Henry Rollins-esque in appearance and demeanor, if a bit more humble than Rolliins). The the visceral reaction to a stong male to to, well, butch up (yeah, the comment was by a guy, but that is still the ... innapropriate description the came to mind, I am thinking Sgt. Hulka telling Pscho 'Lighten up, Frances.' in Stripes after hearing that)
>>Ann Althouse said...
And why are you purporting to say what women think?<<
The answer to which, of course, is that he did no such thing. "If *I* happened to be" seems strangely unimportant to the blog's noted word maven. Althouse mining imagined slights to women again...
"Following the media personality is a red flag for her, as everything she’s learned about him is “some wacky stuff.”"
This makes dating much more efficient. Shouldn't the dating sites upgrade their software?
"How do "red flags" work these days?"
Any intimations of heterodoxy require romantic cancellation, which sensible righties should apply anticipatorily.
On the other hand, prog female sensitivities offer ample new opportunities for gaming the system--for PUA purposes only, of course, not long-term attachment.
"And why are you purporting to say what women think?"
Why are you assuming he identifies as male? Why are you potentially TERFing him?
"And why, when you purport to say what women think, do you appropriate the persona of a "bright, attractive and friendly young" woman?"
Well, prog's gonna prog. Of course, acting on stereotype, on the assumption that stereotypes are true, which they usually are.
lookism - definition
The act of judging other people (typically in a dating scenario) by their looks, style, etc.
examples:
"He's too short."
"He wears shorts."
well, he is wacky. He wanted Bernie. He thinks Michele Obama is smart or something. I saw her thesis. Junior HS level writing (like me).
For me, Joe Rogan is right up there with Joe Biden. Minus the young children thing of course.
There is a rational argument for "Joe Rogan" being a red flag but it's not what you think.
Rogan's interviews are generally 2-3 hours long. If someone routinely watches entire episodes it's a time suck equivalent to being a gamer or a sports fan. They all spend a lot of time on the couch.
I doubt many, perhaps none of the people Rogan has on his podcast actually watch his podcast. They're all such go-getters. That could be a good flag - "I was ON Rogan".
The problem is that bland doesn’t flip on the sexy switch of a bright, attractive and friendly young woman. Beta cucks, in general, are a turnoff. I’m pretty sure that Rogan doesn’t weep into his pillow at night about this swarming of the lefties, but from a larger perspective, this is how information and attitudes about people and issues are propagated through the media to bright and attractive young things. I see it in my own house among 20-something women. It’s very pernicious.
You see it all the time on Match, Bumble, OKCupid, and Tinder. “I don’t date Repukelicans”.
Well, if you want to get well and truly boned, lift that restriction along with your hemline.
- Krumhorn
(my preferred adjectives: brilliant/awesome)
If I were a young dude in the young dude dating years:
Here would be my criteria:
Do you watch "The View"? -
Do you watch Rachel Maddow?
Do you like CNN and MSNBC?
Do you watch Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert?
Do you think Hollywood award shows are fun to watch?
Answer yes to even one? *See the door swing..*
You want a woman who gets humor. Don't care about Rogan.
She knows nothing about Joe Rogan.
She 'learned about him'.
From who?
Bagism - as in "she's not my bag". With a nod to John, Yoko and 1969.
All your posts are perfect but this is one of those perfect-perfect posts.
It's important for a modern, educated woman to she find someone who shares her facile bigotries and who will be happy to reinforce them, preferably with a not impolite, outdoorsy style of self-righteous intolerance.
AA whopping MichaelSL with the isms. Love it.
oh come now!
we All Know, that dull, plain and friendless young women
(the sort whose roommates describe as generic and bland) obey the groupthink against Joe Rogan too!
This is an old story. Back when I used to subscribe to the NY Review of Books, I would see personal ads in the back page for "Women Looking for Men." Some would say "No Republicans." I chuckled and wondered if they ever found one.
It sounds to me that this woman who is looking for a “nice person” and a quiet, outdoorsy type, is a boring kind of “generic” woman herself. In my. experience, when asked what you look for in a man, a woman generally answers first, “someone who makes me laugh.” Then goes on to list the other qualities she’s looking for. I think smart should come in second. She’s looking for the strong silent type? Boring!
Maybe, she’s afraid of men and is needs a more genteel man. Joe Rogan is no genteel man. But, he’s interesting and can be very funny. This woman should give Joe a shot before forming an opinion. Joe is now the new whipping boy of the haters on the Left. However, I think this controversy has given him more exposure to new listeners. But, the Rogan controversy is getting old.
Red flag means communist. Since Rogan doesn't fly it, if she is pulling out the red flag it means that she is a left-wing reactionary.
Amiableism?! I like it! I mean, I’m opposed to it, but it’s a nice word and hardly shows up on searches.
"Fan" isn't a very precise term. Real fanatic fandom is off-putting, but if you just listen to the show, does that make you a fan? For people who truly hates Rogan, just defending the guy could make you a fan and someone to be avoided.
I feel the same way about "The View." A woman I was once romantically involved with told me how smart the women on "The View" were, especially Whoopi Goldberg. That pretty much killed any impulse I may have been feeling to get back with her. (She's Jewish so the Whoopi Goldberg Incident may have changed her mind, but the damage has been done.)
The Joe Rogan MGM Lion roars and that scares the little girls.
If someone likes Joe Rogan, they likely are not ideological.
Open-minded people are more attractive.
"Random Attack on Joe Rogan of the Day."
The Washington Post is not organic in any sense.
The articles are designed to push the narrative. The writers have to match the current narrative goals.
Every single article.
The top comments are picked and placed if they aren't planted by the staff themselves.
It is a window into what the aristocracy wants people to think. It is an evil publication that spies on the people that go there. Their primary business model is spying on readers and selling reader information.
It is a fundamentally dishonest publication.
It should not be supported in any way.
I'm guessing g it's just Joe Rogan's physical appearance that is a turnoff for women looking to date brand types.
Take Joe Rogan out of this article and what's left?
A nice guy who didn't get a second date because the the girl didn't feel "that chemistry, sparks, romantic-y vibe." It would be an article about nothing.
Rogan is just the latest Donald Trump, selling clicks for the outlets who use him for that purpose.
If you can't see the pattern by now, you're the sucker.
An Elliott can do your income taxes. If you need a root canal, Elliott's your man, but humpin' and pumpin' is not Elliott's strong suit. It's the name. 'Do it to me, Elliott.' 'You're an animal, Elliott.' 'Ride me, big Elliott.' It doesn't work.
“ AA whopping MichaelSL with the isms. Love it.”
Thanks. Sometimes punching down is the right thing to do.
“All your posts are perfect but this is one of those perfect-perfect posts.”
Thanks for the perfect comment!
“ Amiableism?! I like it! I mean, I’m opposed to it, but it’s a nice word and hardly shows up on searches.”
I like to think I coined it.
It’s a play on ableism.
Ceciliahere said...
It sounds to me that this woman who is looking for a “nice person” and a quiet, outdoorsy type, is a boring kind of “generic” woman herself.
When I see something like that my first thought is that she's looking for a man she thinks she can easily control. Guys who listen to Rogan probably think for themselves and have their own opinions, that's why they're a deal breaker to her.
And none of the women seem to think that perhaps the men are weeding through the women by mentioning Joe Rogan to start with. Total lack of self awareness. My best advice to young men is to stay away from easily triggered women, all Karens, and pretty much all leftist women.
If I happened to be a bright, attractive and friendly young woman, you couldn't find a bigger sledge hammer than that to clobber any thoughts of a potential relationship.
OMG!! Even worse than a Trump supporter or anti-masker!!
During the pussy hat days, California women on dating sites put the voodoo on republicans.
Congratulations on “amiableism.” It fills a current descriptive need.
1. A preference for a thin “niceness” that serves as a veneer for a bland conformity; a preference for happy-faced zombies; “I’m so glad I’m a beta.”
2. Avoidance of anyone challenging, even in the most positive senses.
3. A pathological aversion to growth or development, to doubting or questioning in order to know oneself or others better.
I don't listen to Rogan's podcast, but I've read enough about him to think that he is just a nice, normal, pretty mild-mannered guy.
I also know men who insist that it's a pain in the ass to find American women who aren't woke and ditzy.
They prefer European or Asian women because they see being feminine as a good thing and are family-oriented.
And they haven't been brainwashed by American media and academia...
Wonderful coinage, "amiableism."
Punching down? Or stooping to smite a worm?
I'm old enough to remember when the Racist of the Day was . . . Eminem.
She knows nothing about Joe Rogan.
She 'learned about him'.
From who?
Why, commenters like MIchaelSL, of course. Where else does a young, educated, single girl in DC learn which kinds of men are appropriate to be seen with?
American Women: Turning Men Gay Since 1974™
I pity the young men and women of today.
Glad I grew up when I did, got married when I did.
The whole boy/girl thing these days seems to be one big shit sandwich.
Why even bother?
The plight of the urban female is self-inflicted. I wonder if the effort to turn right-thinking progressive women is part of the Bill Gates/WEF depopulation program.
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