"He enrolled in the Kennedy School of Government, at Harvard, and he founded the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies to lobby for and ultimately to fund clinical research into psychedelics... Though possession of psychedelic drugs outside a research setting is still an offence under federal law, the Food and Drug Administration has recognised breakthroughs in the therapeutic use of MDMA for PTSD in 2017 and of psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression. An effective campaign for political reform has been led, in particular, by American military veterans who have championed the use of MDMA for PTSD; an unexpected reversal from the days when psychedelics became part of the protest movement against the Vietnam War. Part of the legal backlash against the drugs had a much broader target than just Leary and Alpert, said Mason Marks, leader of the Project on Psychedelics Law and Regulation at Harvard Law School. 'President Nixon wanted to shut down voices that opposed his political agenda.'"
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Why not?
But what’s the Trump connection?
It's interesting, that they pretend, that MDMA is called MDMA,
and that it Might make people feel good; Hello! It's called Ecstasy for a reason
Seriously; hard to believe that a euphoric could make people feel good; Oh Wait, it's NOT HARD AT ALL
Better Living Through Chemistry!
Let's just Dope EVERYONE up, then people won't notice what's happening!
Sheesh
There may be a medically justified use, or there may not be. No objection to having it studied, hopefully honestly. But the melodramatic obsession with exorcising some political demon from 40 years ago is not credibility-enhancing. Parental rebellion is not science.
What bullshit. I worked for Doblin and his academic sponsors, polishing silver (no kidding), serving at lavish bayside parties subsidized by taxpayers, cleaning up afterwards. Leary took in 10K to give a speech once (also taxpayer money) and fell down, loaded. I alone protested the speech because he was a pedophile who dosed small children with psychedelics at Millbrook House, and he attacked me, screaming "mindf***" as panting professors and psychedelic acolytes stood by.
Such was academic psychedelia at New College, circa 1985ish. Doblin's "research" was a joke. He handed out MDMA like candy and left piles of brochures out for people to say they overcame trauma or had insights from it ... if they remembered the next morning ... and wanted more free drugs. Doblin was an undergraduate for 12 years: he was not a psychologist or real researcher, and this was not research.
Doblin himself actually got MDMA classified as illegal because he was so enamored of his pseudo-research that HE reported the existence of the drug to the government. Joe Rogan never asks him about this, curiously. And the Pentagon and CIA were playing with these drugs as irresponsibly as Doblin was at that time too. They weren't his enemy: they were his allies and likely had a large role in getting him directly from 12 years of ludicrous "undergraduate research" straight to the Kennedy School of Government. He -- and MAPS, his nonprofit cash cow -- now work openly with the military, and two decades ago I'm sure he worked with them too, because there were never any consequences for his actions, even as some "test subjects" ended up in locked wards or temporarily blind. Also, our small school was started in 1963 by a group of high-ranking military leaders as an experiment to attract the smartest students from across the country. They were still around in the 80's.
Typical academic malpractice. What a pile of hooey. I assume that's the theme of the day.
"President Nixon wanted to shut down voices that opposed his political agenda."
This is an example of why I believe that you can be dumb and still be an academic at an elite institution.
Every president since FDR has wanted to shut down voices that opposed his political agenda. Just because something bad happened between 1969 and 1974 does not mean that Nixon was behind it.
I was there then. I'm here now.
And if you stand still long enough what went around comes back around though at 70 I'm not crawling through some cow pasture at midnight loading up my croker sack with 'shrooms. Last time I did a small amount of them about a decade ago it was a very pleasant laughter filled 3 or 4 hours around a campfire with guitars. Can't say it helped any depression I had but sometimes fun is just fun.
i used to be sad, and bummed out, and blue
but Then! i started taking Molly, and it's True!
more happiness and Ecstasy for me and you :)
Just one pill and your illness is through!
My PTSD Vietnam veteran brother just started experimenting with micro shrooming since it's legal in Oregon.
Instead pf a convoy do NOT deliver anything to the DC area and then expand to all the idiot liberal cities.
@ Howard
Supervised or on his own?
Let us know what he thinks about it either way.
I don’t know about it’s efficacy for treating PTSD, but it’ll make you insanely horny. Or so I’ve heard…
Hi Bob. He's doing it on his own. He's experienced with psychedelics from his younger days. He's a very meticulous guy and is being pretty conservative in his approach. So far, he is trying to bracket the dosages to figure out how much and how often to take.
His PTSD isn't all from combat. He retired 5-years ago after nearly 50-years of very dangerous mountain coastal search and rescue and fire fighting helicopter flying.
I'm always amused when people wonder why other people do drugs. The obvious answer is because drugs provide pleasure and diversion. But I digress.
Psychedelics freak me out--or so I have always assumed and avoided them. But a lot of my friends and family did a LOT of them, from field and lab, and I've never objected to what other people choose to ingest.
Of course, some of those people have paid heavily, even unto death, for their pleasures.
I may have missed something so I'll ask Tina directly, what small college was that? Sounds like an interesting experiment.
'Sheesh'
Ha
Btw, purple smells awesome, man...
".... the days when psychedelics became part of the protest movement against the Vietnam War."
I understand where he's coming from there but does anyone under age 60 have a clue? Drop in,
turn out, bang the tuner, hate the war. How'd that saying go? Wolfe had the Hells Angels in
Acid Test being LSDers. Well LBJ was the pres then. Late 60s LSD was all around when I was in
hi school. Musta scared crap outta the parents. Heck by 74 Kesey was touring campuses
saying maybe LSD use had gotten out of hand.
The US scientific community was hard ar work on the efficacy of psychedelics up to the demonization of LSD and the making and distribution and possession of it illegal. John’s Hopkins was permitted limited study but for most the studies had to cease. We lost fifty years of potentially valuable research. There are a number of public companies now studying. See Mind Med.
Howard. Hopefully your brother will find relief from psilocybin
Yes, Nixon was the only person in the 60s who wanted to shut down opposition to his ideas, and the people involved with psychedelics were his main focus, over everyone else.
They say that hallucinogens can make you paranoid over long periods. There are good studies out of Dartmouth Medical School showing that long-term cannabis use is not only associated with paranoia (that's easy, but not helpful), but can cause it.
That said, low-dose psychedelics are likely to have very good effect in PTSD, especially adult-onset PTSD, and possibly in depression and even Borderline Personality Disorder - though I would be very cautious about going down that last road unless it seemed the only way.
I give those two opposite-seeming opinions because this is indeed the problem. Everyone thinks it's the other guy who is letting politics and cultural prejudices interfere with his logic, even more than on most issues.
Narr: in 1963, it was a private school subsidized by the military, called New College. In 1975 it became the "honors college" of the state system, called New College of USF. Now it's still public but is called New College again. Academics down the shitter, exists only for the most lefty activism. There were some great teachers when I was there. But the current legitimizing of Doblin and his continued presence has burned out countless young minds and killed some.
Their research is still bullshit. You can't do a double blind test using ecstasy or a few asprin. Their touted "success cases in PTSD" are just a handful of addicts seeking more drugs. Of course Soros has been funding MAPS for years.
The point is most PTSD research is bullshit. And psychedelic research is and was nonsense.
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