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"The [Board of Regents] posted 118 pages of those emails on the university website... In one email exchange... the employee said that her 'heart hurts,' and Dr. Schlissel replied, 'i know. mine too.... I still wish I were strong enough to find a way....'"

"[I]n November, Dr. Schlissel wrote to the subordinate that he was disappointed that he might not be sitting next to her at a University of Michigan basketball game. He wrote, 'the only reason I agreed to go was to go with you.' The emails used 'inappropriate tone and inappropriate language,' the letter from the Board of Regents said, and showed that Dr. Schlissel had used official business to carry out the relationship. Dr. Schlissel’s conduct was 'particularly egregious' because he had taken a public position against sexual harassment, the board said. After a provost, Martin Philbert, was accused of sexual misconduct, Dr. Schlissel had sent a letter in August 2020 to the university saying that 'the highest priority' was to make the university 'safe for all,' the Board of Regents’ letter noted. Mr. Philbert left the school."

From "University of Michigan Fires Its President Over Inappropriate Relationship/Mark Schlissel’s contract was terminated immediately for interactions with a subordinate, the Board of Regents said" (NYT).

Humiliating exposure —the banal words of sexual desire, the Philbert hypocrisy, the revelation of not caring about basketball.... 

४९ टिप्पण्या:

Meade म्हणाले...

“the revelation of not caring about basketball....“

Haha

Readering म्हणाले...

Company emails. He took the wrong lesson from Clinton's server problem.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

Sitting there for 2 hours with a boner he wasn't supposed to have was the only thing that made the prospect of going to a game appealing. Made him feel like a kid again.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

He sounds like a good prospect as a boyfriend to me. It's the opening act of a romcom, and the NYT is the second act. They get back together in the third act, anyway if it's a comedy. If they die, it's a tragedy.

Not Sure म्हणाले...

If this is harassment, then the subordinate must be pleased at the outcome.

Is that the case?

rhhardin म्हणाले...

Nothing suggests boner to me. It's a liking to be with her sentiment. You can get pussy anywhere.

farmgirl म्हणाले...

How old is his boner interest?

farmgirl म्हणाले...

Whoops, sorry- rh…
How old is his crush?

Ice Nine म्हणाले...

Wow! - Two million dollar poontang!

Wilbur म्हणाले...

The tickers must have been to an Illinois game. Michigan's been getting their butt kicked by them in recent years.

Temujin म्हणाले...

Why do I have this vision as an adult that those men who stay in school- never leave- and become professors (or later, administrators), do so for one underlying reason?

And why do I not see women following the same course for the same reasons, but for others?

Am I projecting, or seeing what's there?

typingtalker म्हणाले...

The board posted 118 pages of those emails on the university website in the interest, it said, of full disclosure.

I wonder what the victim thinks about that.

farmgirl म्हणाले...

Temujin:
😳
I think- hmmm… I hope not ALL of them!

mccullough म्हणाले...

Michigan was a great university.

No sane person would take the President job there anymore.

People running institutions now are just relying on the reputation of the institutions that better men and women built up.

Lucien म्हणाले...

Did the “subordinate” engage in an improper relationship too, or are only some people deemed to have the moral agency to be responsible for their actions?

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

I don't click to the NYT, but is the 'accuser' named?

If not it's bullshit.

Iman म्हणाले...

“It’s in the hole!”

Achilles म्हणाले...

This whole situation can only happen when citizens are forced to subsidize the stupidity of the University System.

I assume taxpayers got to pay the woman an exorbitant amount of money because taxpayers like to pay for College Presidents taking subordinates out on dates.

Everyone within 200 feet of this fiasco should be publicly humiliated and stripped of all the tax payer money they have bilked from the system for the last 10 years.

Skeptical Voter म्हणाले...

In other Michigan news Jim Harbaugh and the Wolverines finally beat Ohio State for the first time in years. So all is not gloom in Ann Arbor.

Scot म्हणाले...

A modest proposal: Anyone who wishes to garner a high position, political, business, or otherwise, must first attend a High School game of basketball in a small town in Indiana. The wise will learn much there.

Eleanor म्हणाले...

Who wanted him gone? Was that as "harassing" as the emails got? Did her responses to him tell him to get lost, or was this an office relationship? This is mostly a lesson to folks to tell them to have their own device at work and use a private email address for both you and the recipient.

gilbar म्हणाले...

the revelation of not caring about basketball....

to be fair; it seems that it's UMichigan basketball he doesn't care about
It's not like he doesn't care about the Spartans

wildswan म्हणाले...

While I was reading around this post trying to work out what "Philbert hypocrisy" was I came across this ad:

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Ambulance Chasing/Secondhand Car Sales has crossed with Social Justice and BOOM, we become aware of new opportunities for litigation. Who said Covid was the end of the world as we knew it? Perhaps those hurtful words about basketball could one day be retroactively prosecutable in another new field of dream litigation? As the poet said: I hear America suing, the varied claims I hear/When lilacs last in the dogwood bloomed/Or fallen cold and dead.

Dude1394 म्हणाले...

The lesson learned is never leave a paper/text trail. Because when some lady gets a little hard up for money, or wanting a little attention, they will claim harassment ( because he looked at me, sounds like a toddler ) and try to get a payday.

Browndog म्हणाले...

Career assassination akin to the John Gruden (Raiders coach) hit. O wonder who ordered the hit and why. May find out the who when names of replacement candidates start to emerge. We'll never know why. This shit is usually personal.

Narr म्हणाले...

I spent my working life on a large university campus (mediocre Southern state school division), surrounded by hundreds if not thousands of attractive younger women.

Most of my married colleagues were pretty straight-arrow and conventional in their relations with female students and colleagues. I was, others weren't.

How a guy became a university prez without swearing a loyalty oath to the A.D., is what I want to know.

rcocean म्हणाले...

A man faking an interest in sports to be with his girlfriend. That's a new one.

I loved the sentence "it was egrigious because he'd taken a public stand against sexual harrassment". You'd assume EVERY College President has taken that "stand".

I'd like to see some reporter write: While College President so-and-so was guilty of groping a subordinate, he has always spoken in favor of sexually harrassing women. "I don't agree with what he did" said a Regent board member "but at least he's no hypocrite".

rcocean म्हणाले...

The problem with Dr. Schillisl (or whatever) is he chose the wrong field. If you're going to sexually harrass young woman be a Democrat Politican. you not only won't get attacked, you'll get defended.

rcocean म्हणाले...

Love how some are defending this asshole. Poor, poor man. I can assure you that if you Sexually harrassed someone, and weren't his friend, this College President would be leading the lynch mob. Especially if you were Center-right.

robother म्हणाले...

What kind of Dr. responds to a complaint that "my heart hurts" with "mine does too"? Smoking gun evidence of medical malpractice!

exhelodrvr1 म्हणाले...

But what are they going to do about Jim Harbaugh?

Iman म्हणाले...

Tune in next week for another episode of…

“The Coitus He Gets For The Coitus He Got”

effinayright म्हणाले...

Boy, times have changed.

Back at State U. a certain History professor (my faculty advisor and a FANTASTIC teacher!) was notoriously lascivious.

One September he began teaching in a renovated ampitheatre-style classroom, with long tables and individual chairs (not just movie theater-ish rows of seats) arranged in ascending rows.

In front of each table was a hanging metal sheet known as a "modesty panel". (you can figure out why.)

The Prof walks into the classroom, looks up at the panels, and shouts, "God DAMN the man who designed this classroom!!"

EVERYONE laughed.

Iman म्हणाले...

Poor Dr. Schlitz!

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

At least he didn't have to fake an interest in feminist poetry.

Achilles म्हणाले...

The part of this story that gets me is how everyone here heaps scorn on these idiots and this stupid system.

Then they go and support the whole can of garbage with their taxes as if they aren't involved in this.

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

Leaving Detroit after a weekend here. The majority of billboards are for pot and PI attorneys. Ivy League Cannabis was my favorite. One University advertised on a billboard that it was the most LGBTQ friendly school in Michigan. No word on the quality of the basketball team. The roads in Detroit are a mess. Restaurant food is much better and cheaper in Omaha. The steak’s (sic) are charbroiled at Mr. Paul’s. My little sister and I sat right next to a table of mobsters. Omaha has a better live music scene.

Awesome weekend!

mikee म्हणाले...

In 1988 at my enormous state university, a research presentation to grad students by a candidate for an assistant professor position in my department was follwed that evening by a party for one and all. The hard-drinking candidate took a hard-drinking grad student back to his hotel after the party for more fun and games, to the amusement of everyone who knew about it. Well, he got hired, and in his first class next semester he came face to face with his paramour of the evening.

It was a lose/lose situation for all involved. The ass.prof. had his reputation set as a student-f***er, driving many female students to avoid his classes. The grad student was suspected of getting favors and better grades from her one night stand professor. The department head had to act like he knew nothing of it, or he'd have had to do something, but nobody was sure quite what. Grad students giggled to themselves and each other.

Still not as funny as the professor who was caught making odd noises in a closet, nude, with a very large, also very nude, member of the janitorial staff. Or the member of my PhD committee who was removed from the campus swimming pool six months after I graduated, for lewd acts brought on by his increasing dementia and the presence of females in swimsuits.

And we won't even start on what the undergrad students were up to, all the time.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

"... canceling an agreement that would have continued paying him his base salary of $927,000 for two years after his contract was supposed to end in 2023."

A million here, a million there -- pretty soon you're talking about real money!

Narr म्हणाले...

Our history department had it's share of Casanovas and pervs. I was never in grad school there full time (only part-time, and twice) but saw enough to convince me that Mr. Skin is alive and well in those precincts. One young lady took almost twenty years to complete her PhD, due to her . . . usefulness to certain graduate faculty.

One of the best lecturers in my freshman and sophomore years taught Ancient and Byzantine History. He got busted for fooling around with Kitty Pron.

rcocean म्हणाले...

"Then they go and support the whole can of garbage with their taxes as if they aren't involved in this."

The entire Education Industry needs to be restructured from Top to bottom. Its bizarre that Center-right people are OK with sending their kids to Left-wing schools and paying a King Ransom's for the pleasure

I've tried to get normies who complained to me about High tution to explain why they're sending their kids to college. Usually they answer: For a good job or to be a Doctor or whatever. Then I ask why is it so expensive and suggest cutting the time required from 4 years to 3. Or simply getting rid of the liberal arts. This usually gets a blank stare. Or protests that we need to keep everything the same, we should cut the salaries of those good for nothing Presidents and what about that football coach that makes so much $$, blah blah.

Nothing will change. Ever.

MikeM म्हणाले...

In his email he seems like Prufrock.

Goldenpause म्हणाले...

Using your employer’s email system for personal emails is always a big mistake. That is why God invented gmail.

Nice म्हणाले...

I haven't read the emails ---seems like a lot of drivel. Anyway, I think what Amy Chua (Yale Law) did was worse.

Yale gave Chua a lot more chances to reform, or else. Each time, she just openly thumbed her nose. Clear indication she has/had no intention of following their policies.

With Schlissel, I don't think they gave him any warnings? With him it was two consenting adults. Chua (Yale) was luring students to her private home, plying them with liquor, seemingly against their will--afraid if they didn't go along, future careers jeopardized. That seems far more severe, than Schlissel in one inappropriate relationship. And, I don't think Chua got fired, as yet.

Ambrose म्हणाले...

It is interesting - though understandable - how human sexual urge is so strong. People will do anything to satisfy it. Kind of romantic in a way.

Caroline म्हणाले...

Clearly women can’t handle the Workplace.

The Godfather म्हणाले...

"Dr. Schlissel’s conduct was 'particularly egregious' because he had taken a public position against sexual harassment," the board said. So, if Dr. S. had taken a public position that sexual harassment was just a normal part of University life, indeed a positive contribution to the educational experience, that would have made his behavior in this case OK?

Kai Akker म्हणाले...

Love. Only permissible when performed under conditions of complete regulatory, contractual, and passionless transparency.

And masks must be worn at all times. [OSHA 197841-15]

Kai Akker म्हणाले...

---"With help from one of these legal professionals, you can hold your abuser accountable ... You can also receive a settlement..." [quoted by wild swan]

Proof positive of our wise sexual harassment policies.