Will we ever have reliable data with which to analyze the public health response to Covid? Do we (can we) know how many people died of Covid? Can we determine after the fact the effectiveness of vaccinations and lockdowns and masking? Is all of our analytical sector so politically corrupted that the only acceptable scientific conclusion is orange man bad?
Once upon a time our medical agencies understood that you could not "Contain" a virus. It was 15 days to flatten the curve. Remember, it was not 15 days to stop the virus. They never thought they could. So all they could do was flatten the curve, and they knew that. But then something happened on the way to the forum and they realized they had a crisis they could not waste. People were being compliant so they went all in and told them we could stop this thing. Didn't really contain, it did we?
Serious Question: What Happens if/when one of these CNN pedophiles decides to squawk? How many Clinton/Democrat party people will they implicate, before committing 'suicide'???
Like everyone I know, I have long assumed that the "anti-vaxxers" are a bunch of deluded nuts, and RFK Jr. is one of the worst of the bunch. I am therefore astonished and abashed to discover that he is right as rain.
The problem with having circumstances alter a daily routine is that it can be difficult to get back into the routine later. Before COVID, I would go outside on my lunch break at work and walk four laps around the parking lot every day unless it was raining, then go back in to the break room for a bottle of cranberry juice. When COVID hit, I’d still do a walk but then I’d sit out in my car and listen to music, and a lot of days I’d just do a token lap or two instead of four. It just seemed safer to keep my distance from others rather than congregate in the break room. End result was less walking and a bit of weight gain.
Watching a 1950s movie tonight. I've noticed this in other old movies too -- people back then looked a lot older in their mid-50s (and 40s) than people do today. At least 10 years older.
My father's parents were born in Ireland in extremely straitened circumstances. My father's theory of history is that everything bad was ultimately England's fault. Perfidious Albion. There's something to that theory, at least so far as Ireland goes. If the English had done nothing besides occupy Ireland for eight hundred years, I would say that they were the wickedest people alive. But the truth is they did other things besides occupy Ireland. An astounding preponderance of the world's most useful inventions were invented by people of Anglo-Saxon backgrounds: Computers, antibiotics, jet planes. And lots of other good things: most organized sports, the jury system, limited executive powers......I don't have any Anglo-Saxon blood, and my ancestors were not treated well by them. Still it would be a travesty to have a Critical Cromwell Theory of British history and study only those events where the English fucked over the people they conquered. They certainly did bad things, and the English upper class were, by and large, arrogant bastards, but that's not the entire story....I would ask those who feel aggrieved by some of the actions of America to take note of my moral grandeur, so typical of Irishmen everywhere, and lighten up on their criticism of America and its misdeeds.
I don't mean the above remarks to imply that I'm not owed reparations. If everyone here of Anglo-Saxon background sent me as little as fifty dollars a month, I'm prepared to wipe the slate completely clean, and we can go on together to live in harmony and sunshine.
I am sure glad I at most spend the equivalent of the school summer vacation and a week or two at Christmas up in Minnesota these days. I get just enough winter to remember that I have come to despise it and I'm always glad to get back to my almost daily bike riding in the Florida Panhandle.
One quick question: Why did the Cleveland Indians have to change their nickname to the Guardians, while the Pittsburgh Pirates' AAA affiliate, the Indianapolis Indians, are still the Indians?
Unlike the mRNA and vector vaccines, Novavax is a protein adjuvant (an adjuvant is an ingredient used to strengthen the immune response). While other vaccines trick the body’s cells into creating parts of the virus that can trigger the immune system, the Novavax vaccine takes a different approach. It contains the spike protein of the coronavirus itself, but formulated as a nanoparticle, which cannot cause disease. When the vaccine is injected, this stimulates the immune system to produce antibodies and T-cell immune responses.
It would be the first approved in the U.S. to rely on a traditional, tried-and-true inoculation method. The purified protein, or protein subunit approach which Novavax used to develop its vaccine has been deployed in other vaccines that have been on the market for several decades. The Hepatitis B vaccine, for example, is a subunit agent.
Breaking with the traditional restraints of journalistic neutrality, professional propriety and intellectual rigor, he branded me “dangerous,” a “menace,” a “liar,” a “grifter,” a fraud, “unhinged” and more.
CNN & "journalistic neutrality" - New definition of oxymoron.
"Like everyone I know, I have long assumed that the "anti-vaxxers" are a bunch of deluded nuts, and RFK Jr. is one of the worst of the bunch. I am therefore astonished and abashed to discover that he is right as rain."
I followed the link you provided. It sounded like the tendentious ranting of a lawyer (which RFK Jr is). I followed one of RFK Jr's links supposedly showing "dramatic upticks in miscarriages and pre-eclampsia in vaccinated women", and was not impressed at all. Again, it sounded like the tendentious "evidence" lawyers often throw around.
I was previously intrigued by RFK Jr's book. Now I'm not. Thank you for the helpful link.
Jupiter said... Like everyone I know, I have long assumed that the "anti-vaxxers" are a bunch of deluded nuts, and RFK Jr. is one of the worst of the bunch. I am therefore astonished and abashed to discover that he is right as rain.
Or so the world's worst anti-vaxxer crank writes in his article referenced herein - where he selects and approves of the experts he cites. Gosh! He declares himself to be better than Dr.Fauci when he spent his life sucking down Kennedy whiskey with no other medical background whatsoever.
William said... My father's parents were born in Ireland in extremely straitened circumstances. My father's theory of history is that everything bad was ultimately England's fault.
My uncle's theory about Ireland, based on multiple visits there as a merchant mariner from 1940-1972, is that Ireland is as screwed up as it is because all the smart Irish who stayed in Ireland became priests and didn't reproduce, and all the rest of the smart and ambitious Irish emigrated to America. Leaving behind all those who were neither smart nor ambitious.
My great-great grandparents, his grandparents, were born in Ireland circa 1874, had their first child in Boston in 1893. Only 1 0f 5, my grandmother, lived to adulthood. They did leave Ireland because of poor economic circumstances.
My English great-great-grandparents were born in England in 1864 and 1878. Had their only child in 1895. She was just 16 when my grandfather was born... She was from a well to do family. He was from a solid middle class family. Came here and started working as a glassblower, and became a merchant. And lost 8 years upon arrival. All British and American records have the same day, different year of birth... I wish I knew the story behind that.
Every other line was in North America before the revolution. Includes Patriots on my father's side, Loyalists on my mother's. Hmmm... Maybe that's why they divorced...
She came here with her father who came here for business. He had something to do with the founding of Corning Glass. If only he had had some stock to leave behind...
Dr. Robert Malone joined Steve Bannon on The War Room to discuss the latest viral outbreak in China. The communist regime is hiding the nature and spread of this new disease.
This has many experts worried including Dr. Malone who is the inventor of the mRNA vaccines. Dr. Malone today told the War Room audience that he is hearing the current disease that is spreading across China is reportedly an “Ebola-like hemorrhagic fever virus.” The regime is hiding the true nature of this disease from the public and from the global community — Just like last time!
Which if true means my supposition the Chinese managed to contain the more dangerous escaped viruses in Wuhan was incorrect. Or- there was another release at another lab. Not certain which Occam's Razor would select.
My father's parents were born in Ireland in extremely straitened circumstances. My father's theory of history is that everything bad was ultimately England's fault. Perfidious Albion. There's something to that theory, at least so far as Ireland goes. If the English had done nothing besides occupy Ireland for eight hundred years, I would say that they were the wickedest people alive.
One might note that it wasn't the Anglo-Saxons per se who originally invaded (medieval) Ireland — or Wales, or Scotland (I'm of the latter two descents myself) — but rather it was the Normans, an alien military aristocracy imposed on the Anglo-Saxons (i.e. English) by the Normans' 11th century conquest of England, which had ramifications all down through English/British/Irish history.
But did RFK Jr get it right about mercury and aluminium cumulative load for childhood vaccinations exceeding EPA limits? does that result in any systemic injury?
did vaccines get tweaked to reduce toxicity to take that into account?
@clyde - Because its about groups pressuring organizations. Some tell people to fuck off, others cave
So This is causing some uproar amongst certain people, although I can't figure out why. Congress has ~535 members and only about 20 of them can beat the S&P 500?
Chest Rockwell...I agree with you. Why is it an issue for people that some congresscreatures did better than the S&P 500? One would hope, given their vast knowledge of economics and their love of the free market, oh...and their insider information, there would have been more of them that beat the S&P. (Just kidding about their vast knowledge of economics. Ever listen to AOC?)
But honestly, I'm not shocked with the small number of people who did well. Look at the economic plans that come out of Washington.
Didn't the Normans in Ireland become celticized in much the same way as they became anglicized in England? I seem to remember much conflict between new elite s coming from Britain and older elites who became more Irish, either through assilatioon or to fight the newcomers.
"My father's theory of history is that everything bad was ultimately England's fault."
Was your dad Mel Gibson?
"Leaving behind all those who were neither smart nor ambitious."
I never realized that I was prejudiced about the Irish until I was in a meeting once, in the UK, doing a technical presentation for an Irish company, and this Irish guy made an incredibly insightful and penetrating comment, and what shocked me was that it was an Irish guy saying this. It was my reaction that made me realize I had been harboring this opinion about the Irish.
I used to know a ton of Irish jokes, when I lived in Boston, and I thought that they were just jokes, but now I wonder if they didn't really change my opinion of Irish people subconsciously. Then again, I have always had a lot of respect for Polish people. But we called them something different in the jokes back then, didn't we.
A friend's father used to ask: What is the contribution of the wheelbarrow to civilization?
A: It got the Irish off all fours. (He had some blood of the ould sod, of course.)
It may (or may not) have been GBS who observed that except for wanting them gone from Ireland, the Irish admired nobody in the world more than the English. Even in W W Two--The Big One--some 40K of Irish volunteered to serve the hated Empire--including thousands of deserters from the Irish forces.
As for Normans and 1066 and all that, one of the oldest stories in the history books is the conquerors gradually assimilating themselves into the conquered. Cultural processes are rarely one way, and usually result in a synthesis, not a complete replacement.
"But did RFK Jr get it right about mercury and aluminium cumulative load for childhood vaccinations exceeding EPA limits? does that result in any systemic injury?"
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Darn it. Waited for this thread so I could say what I have forgotten.
At least one new hit coming from the Supremes on Thursday.
Mandates prolly?
Ann do you have a routine for when it’s too cold for a run?
Will we ever have reliable data with which to analyze the public health response to Covid? Do we (can we) know how many people died of Covid? Can we determine after the fact the effectiveness of vaccinations and lockdowns and masking? Is all of our analytical sector so politically corrupted that the only acceptable scientific conclusion is orange man bad?
Once upon a time our medical agencies understood that you could not "Contain" a virus. It was 15 days to flatten the curve. Remember, it was not 15 days to stop the virus. They never thought they could. So all they could do was flatten the curve, and they knew that. But then something happened on the way to the forum and they realized they had a crisis they could not waste. People were being compliant so they went all in and told them we could stop this thing. Didn't really contain, it did we?
yet ANOTHER pedophile at CNN (the pedophile network)
Longtime CNN producer John Griffin slapped with $15M civil suit amid federal child trafficking case
The suit was filed on behalf of a 9-year-old 'Jane Doe'
Serious Question: What Happens if/when one of these CNN pedophiles decides to squawk?
How many Clinton/Democrat party people will they implicate, before committing 'suicide'???
I'm enduring the cold weather. It's about all one can do.
Cocoa helps.
Like everyone I know, I have long assumed that the "anti-vaxxers" are a bunch of deluded nuts, and RFK Jr. is one of the worst of the bunch. I am therefore astonished and abashed to discover that he is right as rain.
The problem with having circumstances alter a daily routine is that it can be difficult to get back into the routine later. Before COVID, I would go outside on my lunch break at work and walk four laps around the parking lot every day unless it was raining, then go back in to the break room for a bottle of cranberry juice. When COVID hit, I’d still do a walk but then I’d sit out in my car and listen to music, and a lot of days I’d just do a token lap or two instead of four. It just seemed safer to keep my distance from others rather than congregate in the break room. End result was less walking and a bit of weight gain.
Watching a 1950s movie tonight. I've noticed this in other old movies too -- people back then looked a lot older in their mid-50s (and 40s) than people do today. At least 10 years older.
My father's parents were born in Ireland in extremely straitened circumstances. My father's theory of history is that everything bad was ultimately England's fault. Perfidious Albion. There's something to that theory, at least so far as Ireland goes. If the English had done nothing besides occupy Ireland for eight hundred years, I would say that they were the wickedest people alive. But the truth is they did other things besides occupy Ireland. An astounding preponderance of the world's most useful inventions were invented by people of Anglo-Saxon backgrounds: Computers, antibiotics, jet planes. And lots of other good things: most organized sports, the jury system, limited executive powers......I don't have any Anglo-Saxon blood, and my ancestors were not treated well by them. Still it would be a travesty to have a Critical Cromwell Theory of British history and study only those events where the English fucked over the people they conquered. They certainly did bad things, and the English upper class were, by and large, arrogant bastards, but that's not the entire story....I would ask those who feel aggrieved by some of the actions of America to take note of my moral grandeur, so typical of Irishmen everywhere, and lighten up on their criticism of America and its misdeeds.
I don't mean the above remarks to imply that I'm not owed reparations. If everyone here of Anglo-Saxon background sent me as little as fifty dollars a month, I'm prepared to wipe the slate completely clean, and we can go on together to live in harmony and sunshine.
It was -2° outside this morning. Just not good for the lungs.
So thank God for the spin bike I bought 35 years ago. Got a lot of "miles" on that thing.
At least one new hit coming from the Supremes on Thursday.
....not since the 60's!!
Tallulah Bankhead -- famous memorable name, yet the only thing I've ever seen her in is Lifeboat.
Darn it. Waited for this thread so I could say what I have forgotten.
I get this at the neighborhood Safeway....."Can I help you find something?"
"No, I'm just trying to remember what I forgot."
I used to walk to work in this weather. Now I hide in the house. Not really feeling guilty about it, either. I like retirement.
I am sure glad I at most spend the equivalent of the school summer vacation and a week or two at Christmas up in Minnesota these days. I get just enough winter to remember that I have come to despise it and I'm always glad to get back to my almost daily bike riding in the Florida Panhandle.
One quick question: Why did the Cleveland Indians have to change their nickname to the Guardians, while the Pittsburgh Pirates' AAA affiliate, the Indianapolis Indians, are still the Indians?
For the Wordle players, here's an interesting article about letter frequency in five-letter words.
https://leancrew.com/all-this/2022/01/wordle-letters/
Looks like AROSE may be the Holy Grail of seed words.
Novavax could finally be up for emergency authorization in February.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/novavax-ceo-covid-vaccine-could-be-cleared-in-multiple-countries-soon.html
Novavax’s vaccine is protein based, using an alternative technology to the more widespread mRNA vaccines.
Unlike the mRNA and vector vaccines, Novavax is a protein adjuvant (an adjuvant is an ingredient used to strengthen the immune response). While other vaccines trick the body’s cells into creating parts of the virus that can trigger the immune system, the Novavax vaccine takes a different approach. It contains the spike protein of the coronavirus itself, but formulated as a nanoparticle, which cannot cause disease. When the vaccine is injected, this stimulates the immune system to produce antibodies and T-cell immune responses.
It would be the first approved in the U.S. to rely on a traditional, tried-and-true inoculation method. The purified protein, or protein subunit approach which Novavax used to develop its vaccine has been deployed in other vaccines that have been on the market for several decades. The Hepatitis B vaccine, for example, is a subunit agent.
From @Jupiter's link:
Breaking with the traditional restraints of journalistic neutrality, professional propriety and intellectual rigor, he branded me “dangerous,” a “menace,” a “liar,” a “grifter,” a fraud, “unhinged” and more.
CNN & "journalistic neutrality" - New definition of oxymoron.
Jupiter said:
"Like everyone I know, I have long assumed that the "anti-vaxxers" are a bunch of deluded nuts, and RFK Jr. is one of the worst of the bunch. I am therefore astonished and abashed to discover that he is right as rain."
I followed the link you provided. It sounded like the tendentious ranting of a lawyer (which RFK Jr is). I followed one of RFK Jr's links supposedly showing "dramatic upticks in miscarriages and pre-eclampsia in vaccinated women", and was not impressed at all. Again, it sounded like the tendentious "evidence" lawyers often throw around.
I was previously intrigued by RFK Jr's book. Now I'm not. Thank you for the helpful link.
“California Governor Newsom Includes Health Coverage for All Illegal Immigrants in New Budget Proposal“
California State government is in a race with the San Andreas. The fault has given them a head start.
Jupiter said...
Like everyone I know, I have long assumed that the "anti-vaxxers" are a bunch of deluded nuts, and RFK Jr. is one of the worst of the bunch. I am therefore astonished and abashed to discover that he is right as rain.
Or so the world's worst anti-vaxxer crank writes in his article referenced herein - where he selects and approves of the experts he cites. Gosh! He declares himself to be better than Dr.Fauci when he spent his life sucking down Kennedy whiskey with no other medical background whatsoever.
Tucker tonight comparing Nancy’s eyebrows to a Michael Jackson sighting was phenomenal. Also gorgeous weather here in Hawaii
William said...
My father's parents were born in Ireland in extremely straitened circumstances. My father's theory of history is that everything bad was ultimately England's fault.
My uncle's theory about Ireland, based on multiple visits there as a merchant mariner from 1940-1972, is that Ireland is as screwed up as it is because all the smart Irish who stayed in Ireland became priests and didn't reproduce, and all the rest of the smart and ambitious Irish emigrated to America. Leaving behind all those who were neither smart nor ambitious.
My great-great grandparents, his grandparents, were born in Ireland circa 1874, had their first child in Boston in 1893. Only 1 0f 5, my grandmother, lived to adulthood. They did leave Ireland because of poor economic circumstances.
My English great-great-grandparents were born in England in 1864 and 1878. Had their only child in 1895. She was just 16 when my grandfather was born... She was from a well to do family. He was from a solid middle class family. Came here and started working as a glassblower, and became a merchant. And lost 8 years upon arrival. All British and American records have the same day, different year of birth... I wish I knew the story behind that.
Every other line was in North America before the revolution. Includes Patriots on my father's side, Loyalists on my mother's. Hmmm... Maybe that's why they divorced...
She came here with her father who came here for business. He had something to do with the founding of Corning Glass. If only he had had some stock to leave behind...
From The Gateway Pundit tonight:
Dr. Robert Malone joined Steve Bannon on The War Room to discuss the latest viral outbreak in China. The communist regime is hiding the nature and spread of this new disease.
This has many experts worried including Dr. Malone who is the inventor of the mRNA vaccines. Dr. Malone today told the War Room audience that he is hearing the current disease that is spreading across China is reportedly an “Ebola-like hemorrhagic fever virus.” The regime is hiding the true nature of this disease from the public and from the global community — Just like last time!
Which if true means my supposition the Chinese managed to contain the more dangerous escaped viruses in Wuhan was incorrect. Or- there was another release at another lab. Not certain which Occam's Razor would select.
will Supreme Court have to rule on insurrection ?
My father's parents were born in Ireland in extremely straitened circumstances. My father's theory of history is that everything bad was ultimately England's fault. Perfidious Albion. There's something to that theory, at least so far as Ireland goes. If the English had done nothing besides occupy Ireland for eight hundred years, I would say that they were the wickedest people alive.
One might note that it wasn't the Anglo-Saxons per se who originally invaded (medieval) Ireland — or Wales, or Scotland (I'm of the latter two descents myself) — but rather it was the Normans, an alien military aristocracy imposed on the Anglo-Saxons (i.e. English) by the Normans' 11th century conquest of England, which had ramifications all down through English/British/Irish history.
@ Blogger Jupiter said ... Gerda Sprinchorn said...and Blogger Gadfly said...
But did RFK Jr get it right about mercury and aluminium cumulative load for childhood vaccinations exceeding EPA limits? does that result in any systemic injury?
did vaccines get tweaked to reduce toxicity to take that into account?
I am thinking about my grand kids
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Oh and did I mention Wordle will share to Althouse?
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@clyde - Because its about groups pressuring organizations. Some tell people to fuck off, others cave
So This is causing some uproar amongst certain people, although I can't figure out why. Congress has ~535 members and only about 20 of them can beat the S&P 500?
Chest Rockwell...I agree with you. Why is it an issue for people that some congresscreatures did better than the S&P 500? One would hope, given their vast knowledge of economics and their love of the free market, oh...and their insider information, there would have been more of them that beat the S&P. (Just kidding about their vast knowledge of economics. Ever listen to AOC?)
But honestly, I'm not shocked with the small number of people who did well. Look at the economic plans that come out of Washington.
? Is all of our analytical sector so politically corrupted that the only acceptable scientific conclusion is orange man bad?
Yes.
-11 this morning-
I am sticking with SATED as my seed word until I stop getting them in three.
Didn't the Normans in Ireland become celticized in much the same way as they became anglicized in England? I seem to remember much conflict between new elite s coming from Britain and older elites who became more Irish, either through assilatioon or to fight the newcomers.
"My father's theory of history is that everything bad was ultimately England's fault."
Was your dad Mel Gibson?
"Leaving behind all those who were neither smart nor ambitious."
I never realized that I was prejudiced about the Irish until I was in a meeting once, in the UK, doing a technical presentation for an Irish company, and this Irish guy made an incredibly insightful and penetrating comment, and what shocked me was that it was an Irish guy saying this. It was my reaction that made me realize I had been harboring this opinion about the Irish.
I used to know a ton of Irish jokes, when I lived in Boston, and I thought that they were just jokes, but now I wonder if they didn't really change my opinion of Irish people subconsciously. Then again, I have always had a lot of respect for Polish people. But we called them something different in the jokes back then, didn't we.
Althouse,
Consider an afternoon run. I'm managing.
A friend's father used to ask: What is the contribution of the wheelbarrow to civilization?
A: It got the Irish off all fours. (He had some blood of the ould sod, of course.)
It may (or may not) have been GBS who observed that except for wanting them gone from Ireland, the Irish admired nobody in the world more than the English. Even in W W Two--The Big One--some 40K of Irish volunteered to serve the hated Empire--including thousands of deserters from the Irish forces.
As for Normans and 1066 and all that, one of the oldest stories in the history books is the conquerors gradually assimilating themselves into the conquered. Cultural processes are rarely one way, and usually result in a synthesis, not a complete replacement.
Where's that global warming when you need it?
"But did RFK Jr get it right about mercury and aluminium cumulative load for childhood vaccinations exceeding EPA limits? does that result in any systemic injury?"
Yep.
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