"And every trip outside the house that doesn’t result in people getting sick can serve to desensitize them further. At this point, it’s as if we have built up antibodies against fear.... Many are tired of being afraid — and just plain tired, too.... Safety behaviors have become so politicized that many people are skeptical not only of vaccines and face masks, but also even of the threat that Covid-19 presents.... In his pioneering studies of persuasion, the psychologist Robert Cialdini has shown that under uncertainty, people look to others who are similar to them for cues about appropriate behavior. If you see that many of your neighbors aren’t vaccinated, you might hesitate to get a jab, too.... One thing is clear: Repeatedly blasting an emergency alert brings its own risks. The last thing needed in a pandemic is a country of people too bored to pay attention and take action."
Writes the psychologist Adam Grant, in "We’re Living Through the ‘Boring Apocalypse’" (NYT).
९९ टिप्पण्या:
New Yorkers are so fucking neurotic. Are they all like Woody Allen?
There is an apocalypse going on?
What an awful article. The author justifies using lies and psychological "tricks" to make people cooperate with arbitrary demands made by politicians and public health officials.
Data show that people radically overestimate their chance of hospitalization and death if they test positive for covid: https://www.brookings.edu/research/how-misinformation-is-distorting-covid-policies-and-behaviors/
Why do they believe this? It's not from personal experience. It is because they are being fed covid fear porn by politicians, public health officials, and media outlets like the NY Times.
Again, I sure would like to know if other doctors around the country are refusing to prescribe ivermectin. There’s a story out of Naperville that a daughter had to go to court to get it for her 71 year old dad. He recovered.
I hear this is a huge problem in Lincoln thanks to those fucking doctor clones who work for Nebraska Medicine.
I do not have the NYT. Not my cup of tea. The word "Apocalypse" Jumped right out at me. Really have we been in or any where near an Apocalypse. Seems a bit dramatic.
You are the word person. Does that word apply in anyway LOL?
Oh, for fuck's sake- if the apocalypse is boring, then it isn't an apocalypse. Chicken Littles run around us everywhere these days- they are a dime a dozen.
"Repeatedly blasting an emergency alert brings its own risks. "
This is starting to show up in the populations' behavior from of the storm related warnings that are blasted almost daily via weather apps, Nixle and official government channels.
This has been known for years by network and systems monitoring systems. warning/alert inflation makes it easy to loose the real problems due to desensitizing and sensory overload.
Omicron is starting to look like, "hey, we have this great apparatus built to lock down and nudge behavior we better use regardless of the actual risk."
The bigger problem may be people who panic and demand permanent lockdowns and incarceration of the unvaccinated. For most people, going on with life as usual and taking only the usual precautions is the saner course. If you're in a high risk category you have to go further, but most of us shouldn't be cowering in our basements waiting for the apocalypse.
People get tired of having Chicken Little screaming in one ear and the boy crying wolf in other.
Throw in that there has been so much BS thrown out: authorities contradicting themselves or each other, attacking known authorities-researchers, doctors, professors- who dare to contradict the official line, the hysteria when there's a variant... Take the latest: no deaths, no hospitalizations, IF you get sick with it you feel ratty for a couple of days and yet "WE NEED A VACCINE FOR THIS!"
You keep doing this crap, and more and more people wind up saying "Screw this." As Insty has said, our public health authorities have thrown away a lot of trust.
...Many are tired of being afraid...
Horseshit! We live in a world full of neurotics who are loving every minute they get to wrap themselves up in that nice, comforting fear.
So many words to describe...
What, the little boy who cried wolf is a toxic metaphor now?
It isn't an apocalypse.
Maybe because it wasn’t an apocalypse at all?
Now know a number of people who’ve had COVID. None were hospitalized. Lots of flu-bragging when they got better. Not everyone was so fortunate, of course, but it was hardly a raging plague. Absent government-imposed panic and behavior, public consciousness/fear of KungFlu would have been right around ‘80’s AIDS-levels.
I think 24/7 cable 'news' has for years tended to overstate so many issues making them BIG even when some of them were simply not big. Or keeping up the breathlessness, even when their audience knew what they were reporting was obviously false. But they don't leave it there. They keep pounding and pounding their chosen story of the day/week/month, or in some cases- year(s). (think: Russia Collusion). The effect is that people get inured to these things. Even with Covid.
So even though we all were fearful at the beginning as the death rates shot up, we started seeing the images of refrigerated trucks outside of morgues in NYC. The Governor of New York screaming that he'd need 40,000 ventilators. That he needed the hospital ship, Comfort. That nursing homes were areas of complete devastation. Some of what we were seeing didn't make sense. Some of it became clear shortly thereafter- showing that they did not need 40,000 ventilators or a hospital ship, or the Javits Center turned into a makeshift hospital. None of that was needed, yet the networks kept pounding the narrative and though we saw different images on the ground where we lived, the networks stayed on Narrative.
After two years, people definitely build up a callus to what is demanded of them by health officials or TV talking heads. They tend to look outside their own windows first, before believing what is being presented as 'fact'. These days, even the word 'fact' is suspect.
Jill Filipovic, welcome to Florida:
https://twitter.com/JillFilipovic/status/1469355313795153920?s=20
The GOOD NEWS Is... People LOVE the Job that Resident Biden is doing on Covid!
A NPR Poll shows that Only 44% of Americans disapprove of Jo's handling of the Covid crisis.
(of course, NPR polls wildly oversample dems, so there's That)
For General Approval rates, the NPR poll shows
The president's approval rating was just 42% in this survey
What's more, the intensity of disapproval is high — 38% said they strongly disapprove of Biden.
For example, in the survey, while 76% of Republicans strongly disapproved of the job Biden is doing, only 38% of Democrats strongly approved.
Seriously,
IF covid was even Half as deadly as Half the people think it is....
Shouldn't We ALL Be Dead by Now?
We’re living through the political party that cried apocalypse.
They’ve gone from “never let a good crisis go to waste” to “we can’t accomplish anything without a crisis “.
Since there is a 99.5% or so survival rate, any fear of Kung Flu is not rational.
And now, with the new omicron variant, it is not only harmless, there are not even any symptoms.
OMIGOD!!! I don't have any symptoms, I must have the omicron!!!
In all seriousness, I have paid as letting attention as possible to the kung flu as possible. I wear a mask only when it is required. I wear the flimsiest mask I can find. Like these from Foam-tec (https://www.foamtecintlwcc.com/products/accessories/facemasks) Very light weigt and breathable but desisned for cleanroom and pharmaceutical manufacturing use. What are your masks designed for?
I have no aversion to shaking hands or getting close to total strangers.
If I knew someone with Omicron or even delta, I would ask to exchange bodily fluids with them.
FUCK Kung Flu. It is political bullshit. It's over. It has been over for 2 years now. It never even existed as a serious problem.
John Henry
For those who believe that the PCR test, the most common test used for detecting kung flu, is the so-called "gold standard" you only have 20 days left.
After the end of the year it will be illegal for any lab to use it for kung flu testing. FDA has withdrawn authorization for use because it can't tell the diffenence between kung flu, regular flu, common cold and a bunch of other virii.
Yeah, trust the science, suckers.
John Henry
Alert fatigue is very real. Since they did away with tornado watches and call all conditions warnings, I no longer pay attention to them. I used to take shelter at every warning because it meant a tornado was likely coming my way. Now it means conditions are right for a tornado to possibly form.
Emphasis on "living through." Yes, yes we are, most of us, even old farts with co-morbs like myself.
But don't worry, doc, you'll have many more opportunities to cower in place in the future.
I don't think people are bored or tired as much as annoyed that they are told to stay home, mask up, and get jabs every six months, while at the same time watching political leaders travel wherever in the world, not wear a mask as their servants do, and throw parties at venues not open to the public. I'm fairly certain that people are paying attention and may soon take action. Yes, that's probably the last thing you want to happen.
Yes we are conditioned to ignore Fauci crying wolf. No shit, Smart Lady!
Obviously we need something new for people to be afraid of. We’ve got to save our phony baloney jobs!
"antibodies against fear.... Many are tired of being afraid"
Framing the expected reaction to the general Covid situation as fear seems improper (as opposed to the immediately terrifying environment described in the previous post). Living life afraid of walking out of the house because of Covid is irrational, assuming that a coughing person isn't standing on the other side of the door.
.."every trip outside the house that doesn’t result in people getting sick can serve to desensitize them further"... And get them properly acclimated to reality! You know... Them.
It is reasonable to take precautions as necessary, but life must go on.
"if you see that many of your neighbors aren’t vaccinated" How the hell is that seen (or known)? In my neighborhood we barely know each others' name and certainly don't know vaccination status.
From the article : "This isn’t to say scare tactics have no place in public health messages or private conversations."
Well, this is to say - scare tactics have no place in public health messages or private conversations. I can't imagine having a private conversation with someone who would try to manipulate me with scare tactics.
They think we are children.
The first sign that Grant doesn't get it --
"many have been CONDITIONED to stop fearing Covid," as if the irrational terror that many have been immune to, but has infected far too many and been used as an excuse by others to impose totalitarian power over others is the right and natural way to be.
The unintended consequences of these many years of pronouncements of impending doom. I'm not certain, but I don't think the polar bears or AlGore can save us.
>>We’re Living Through the ‘Boring Apocalypse’
99%+ survival rate.
I guess they just don't make apocalypses like they used to.
This is only one side of the coin. (Paywall kept me from reading all he had to say.)
The other side is the population who are riddled with anxiety and fear who have been self-isolating since Day 1 with only brief excursions into the warzone they think they live in. These are the people, like my son, who find any germs to be mortal enemies. They live deathly concerned they will infect others (yes, that's how it works!) or catch the virus themselves and die a lonely death.
To watch a person decline in isolation, losing friends, and diminishing health, amid regular panic attacks is frightening to those around them.
Were it not for remote work, this problem might be forefront.
People in this fear state of mind rely on opinion leaders (we all have them) to make their decisions for them. The CDC and Fauci have millions of acolytes in these people and others less affected.
Grant's perspective feeds into the fear the Fauci's have instituted. The NYT is lock-step; no surprise.
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My response to the quote: Good!
People are now assessing their own risk, instead of looking to so-called experts, who have thoroughly discredited themselves. They're doing it because they've sifted through the raft of data about the virus and if they're not fat, old, or sick already, they're going back to living their lives. And if they are one of those things, they're taking reasonable precautions.
What hubris, pathologizing people's normal behavior, listening to people they know and trust, being suspicious of the powerful and influential, and deciding not to be afraid. It bothers me that a psychiatrist implies recklessness to people choosing to live their lives. I imagine he sees dysfunction in everyone and everything, having studied it so long.
People around the world have been condition to ignore fear porn.
I've been skeptical of Government since 1966. I haven't changed that opinion. I keep in mind what George Carlin advised about government - they're lying liars who lie. Maybe that's a paraphrase. Still....
"One thing is clear: Repeatedly blasting an emergency alert brings its own risks. The last thing needed in a pandemic is a country of people too bored to pay attention and take action."
Wow, so psychologist Adam Grant has rediscovered "The Boy who Cried Wolf"?
I'm so proud of him. I wonder how long it took?
" There was once a young Shepherd Boy who tended his sheep at the foot of a mountain near a dark forest. It was rather lonely for him all day, so he thought upon a plan by which he could get a little company and some excitement. He rushed down towards the village calling out “Wolf, Wolf,” and the villagers came out to meet him, and some of them stopped with him for a considerable time. This pleased the boy so much that a few days afterwards he tried the same trick, and again the villagers came to his help. But shortly after this a Wolf actually did come out from the forest, and began to worry the sheep, and the boy of course cried out “Wolf, Wolf,” still louder than before. But this time the villagers, who had been fooled twice before, thought the boy was again deceiving them, and nobody stirred to come to his help. So the Wolf made a good meal off the boy’s flock, and when the boy complained, the wise man of the village said:
“A liar will not be believed, even when he speaks the truth.” "
Or you could Aesop's Fables and get the same lesson.
Substitute *liar* with *democrat should not be believed* .
Wow. Someone described the "Boy Who Cried 'Wolf'" and is noting that it still has relevance.
"it’s as if we have built up antibodies against fear"
Some of us who were not panicky alarmists and instead followed the science had them from the outset. As was clear from the beginning, Covid hit the old and sick hard, everybody else, not so much. As was clear from the beginning, governments can't stop viruses, so we also needed antibodies against costly Covid oppression. Seems we are close to reaching herd immunity to authoritarian progressive insanity.
Zzzzzzz...
Yes, that’s a pretty good description of my opinion. I refuse to live in fear. I’ve been vaccinated, and now I’m getting on with my life. Fauchi can kiss my ass.
---"The last thing needed in a pandemic is a country of people too bored to pay attention and take action."
That country would not be America; and those people would not be Americans. Pay attention to the real world, NYT. This is dopey. The editors would find many assumptions of theirs do not comport with that reality.
I never thought the apocalypse would be boring
I was expecting more of a bang, less of a sigh
The TV shows implied it would be exciting
But I still don't know anyone who's died
The Fleas
Frank Turner & Jon Snodgrass
The people who did this study never heard of the boy who cried wolf?
From the meme:
Me in Florida:
You guys are still playing scamdemic up there?
"And every trip outside the house that doesn’t result in people getting sick can serve to desensitize them further."
Right there is proof that we should have gone Full Australia from the beginning. Nobody allowed out of the house ever; hazmat suited cops patrolling the streets with tazers and live ammunition.
Never give the People reason to doubt the edicts of Big Brother.
WHO reports zero deaths so far from the Moronic variant. And some virologists believe it has been circulating for months and months. And the infection graph for the Moronic variant suggests an R zero of 3-4 which is far greater than that of the Delta variant. Net net, Omicron looks to be wildly infectious but not dangerous. Perhaps even less dangerous than an apparently-endless string of boosters amidst an apparently-endless string of useless punitive lockdowns.
Bottom line for me? We’re done.
Or maybe people understand Covid-19's danger, and have decided it's worth the risk to go to work, socialize, etc.
Maybe it's because we're NOT living in an apocalypse.
This isn't the Spanish flu or the Black Death.
There are two ways to stop a pandemic, other than letting nature take its course for a few years and suffering the full effects of a novel contagious disease.
First, one can stop all social interaction, eventually develop vaccines and create herd immunity when enough people are vaccinated. That's what we just did. The vaccines don't have a long lasting effect and have a variable effect on new variants, but they are still almost miraculous in their rapid development and deployment.
Second, one can stop social interaction for the most vulnerable (eldery and immunocompromised, for COVID-19) and develop medication to mitigate the disease's symptoms, eventually creating herd immunity when enough people are successfully past the infection. That is what HCQ/zinc, Ivermectin, Remdesivir, and monoclonal antibodies are all about. Some medications work better than others, of course, and initial excitement about novel treatments should be looked at skeptically until proven.
What shouldn't be done is sending sick people to old folks homes, lying to the public about masks, faking social distancing guidelines, stopping the sale of seeds in an entire state, closing businesses while favored groups continue gaining revenue, and other ridiculous over-reaching authoritarian moves, especially while those making the rules hypocritically ignore them.
I'm gonna wear a mask in public if I get a cold in 2024, just to scare people.
I've had no fear of Covid-19 from the very beginning. Since the Diamond Princess and the Teddy Roosevelt in early 2020, it was clear there was little threat except to those with significant existing medical problems.
It was also clear that the Trump-haters saw this as an opportunity to crash the economy to try to make him lose re-elction. Unfortunately, it metastasized into a religion of pandemic-porn.
Alec Baldwin has killed more people than Omicron.
They are (trying to ) gaslight us again.
Enough!
Count me as one of those tired of the doom and gloom. I'm vaccinated thrice and comply pretty much with the norms in the Bay Area but I just don't listen to it anymore. Heading to Turkey and Greece for the holidays and while it may not be much different over there I will look forward to the change of scene. Best wishes and health to all but live your life as best you can without undue fear and just maybe this Omicron is a blessing in disguise.
But of course it isn't an apocalypse. If you treat it like it is, after a while, people will start tuning you out. Isn't there some fable about "the boy who cried wolf"?
COVID is a major problem, not an apocalypse.
Temujin,
40,000 venthilatuhs were needed because Trump had them and wouldn't let Cuomo have them. Once it turned out that Cuomo had sufficient venthilatuhs to blow out old folks' lungs, the subject turned to something else.
"And some virologists believe it has been circulating for months and months."
Based on what? Is it the artful dodger variant that can avoid infecting people who will eventually be sequenced?
The rational response is to stop being afraid. Covid is never going away. If one is vaccinated one isn't likely to get seriously ill. My attitude is that I have to adjust to covid sometime, so it may as well be now. Nothing is going to change, the germ isn't going away, and it almost certainly won't kill me. I will be exposed to it at some point, if I haven't been already. The rational thing to do is to ignore covid and go about my life. The anxiety about covid is more dangerous than the disease.
I remember when letting people infected with Ebola into the country was not big deal and now we're supposed to panic because of a severe flu-like disease that kills the elderly and the obese. I'm ashamed of my generation imposing these ridiculous mask and lock down rules on the nearly risk free children to keep them from infecting people who are perfectly capable of protecting themselves.
"The TV shows implied it would be exciting"
Have you ever seen "Looking for a Friend for the End of the World"?
That's what waiting to see how omicron shakes out seems to me, the vibe, anyway, I really don't think omicron is the end of the world, but I am waiting for enough data to come in to see whether it is going to "Kill 75,000" like the British modelers think, or just infect a lot of people, hospitalize a large number of them, just because a small percentage of a very large number is still a large number, and kill a few who are vulnerable for other reasons.
One of the things about omicron, is that like the giant asteroid in the movie, there is almost nothing we can do about it. If you have chosen to get vaxxed or not vaxxed, have lost weight or not lost weight, etc, well, it's apple, peaches, pumpkin pie! Ready or not! Here I come!
" We live in a world full of neurotics who are loving every minute they get to wrap themselves up in that nice, comforting fear."
Absolutely! Just listen to the way people make stuff up about the Covid jab.
Coppola should make a sequel, titled "Apocalypse Not Now".
A Wisconsin wedding was found to be the source of a COVID Omicron 'super-spread' now taking Oakland by storm, leaving 38 hospital workers and patients exposed as the variant has now been spotted in half of U.S. states. Debra Furr-Holden, 47, the associate Dean of Public Health Integration at Michigan State University, said she attended the Milwaukee wedding on November 27 after she was assured nearly all 100 guests, many of whom were medical experts, were vaccinated. But the medical professional noted that as the celebration went on, many guests took their masks off and mingled, causing Furr-Holden and more than a dozen others to be infected - Daily Mail
Ready or not, here it comes.
Solidification of insanity accomplished when Gatewaypundit began championing RFK Jr.
It's all BS til they're shoving that tube down your throat. Or giving you the ol' trach and PEG.
Then it's "wow guys, covid is no joke!"
Juvenal looks down and laughs.
I feel nostalgia for the calm waters of the Obama years. I think it was an artificial calm then, but it was pleasant. Starting in 2016, the mass media went into daily crisis mode, and in 2020 hysterical crisis mode. But a lot of us don't pay much attention any longer.
"it’s as if we have built up antibodies against fear"
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did not FDR want that his goal - /do not fear fear itself/?
Since the vaccines don't work for the new variant Omicron, I immediately rushed out and bought transformer action figures for all members of my family. I learned on Saturday mornings while growing up that it takes Voltron to defeat Omicron.
Trust the science.
Close planned parent/hood, a leading venue and practice of excess deaths.
Well, "fat may be be beautiful", but it is not healthy... unless you're eating for two.
Cutting dietary sugars, reduces body fat, and diabetic conditions.
Manage your nutrition, especially Vitamin D. Seek early treatment (e.g. HCQ, Ivermectin, antibiotics, anti-inflammatories) to mitigate disease progression.
Beware fully vaccinated, symptom suppression, high viral titers, and silent spread.
The trick is to keep your adrenaline up. That explains virus avoiding college football with 50,000 plus in stadium and rampant riots during 2020.
Not to mention politicians attending parties and dinners maskless.
Stay excited and happy, stay safe.
How often can the medical community lie to us before we stop listening? Some people swallow all the bullshit and ask for more. My response is simpler: I stop paying attention.
It is totally reasonable to reduce your fear level when a threat diminishes. Back when the pandemic was raging and there were no vaccines, it was a normal and natural reaction to be very afraid of catching Covid. Once you're fully vaccinated, it is a normal and natural reaction to let your guard down about Covid because the risk has been substantially reduced. But the news media thrives on sensationalism and stoking fear to get ratings. I seriously still see people walking outside alone and driving alone wearing masks. But the "fear thing" cuts both ways. Some people are also irrationally afraid of the vaccines because of misinformation that they're being fed on the internet.
Omicron Andromeda Strain engineered by Fauci in the Chinese wet market gain of function glue factory may be the beginning of the endemic.
causing Furr-Holden and more than a dozen others to be infected
In high school, we called that third base!!
If Hillary had been elected in 2016, then this would just be a bad flu season.
you peons.
it's Fun, if you listen to them Closely
They are now Screaming about "Hospitals Are FULL!!!!"
But, If you listen; they're saying:
"Covid hospitalizations are 'higher than they've been... In Three MONTHS'"
In other words they are No higher than they were (or LOWER than they were), four months ago
THEN, they causally mention, that the number of Available Beds is Down
BECAUSE OF STAFFING ISSUES
In OTHER WORDS; They fired a BUNCH of Nurses (and MANY more just Quit)
And Because of THAT... "Hospitals Are FULL"
Why'd they fire Nurses? Why did Nurses just quit? Oh; that's Right; the Vaccine Mandates
They have shot themselves in the foot... Again
https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/how-liberals-are-in-denial-about-whats-going-on/
Love this guy!
"We're not gonna take it...."
Dave Begley said...
"Again, I sure would like to know if other doctors around the country are refusing to prescribe ivermectin. There’s a story out of Naperville that a daughter had to go to court to get it for her 71 year old dad. He recovered.
I hear this is a huge problem in Lincoln thanks to those fucking doctor clones who work for Nebraska Medicine."
The American Medical Association is toeing the line delineated by the CDC: Why ivermectin should not be used to prevent or treat COVID-19
Meanwhile, the actual science says something different: Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines
"Conclusions:
Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally."
With Covid-19, -20, and -21 in progress, and -22 a forward-looking prospect, the authorities and corporations dropped their masks, and people... persons left the cargo cult, and elected to follow the science.
Why did Nurses just quit? Oh; that's Right; the Vaccine Mandates
Natural immunity, for one. Inexpensive, effective treatments with well-established safety profiles for another. The conditional risk of infection, and low risk of progression, for another.
They have shot themselves in the foot... Again
The equitable an inclusive risk of playing with a double-edged scalpel for sociopolitical, redistributive, and fair weather causes.
There have been 4x as many people who have been killed "a) in the back seat of Ted Kennedy's car + b) in Joe Scarborough's congressional office + c) on set with Alec Baldwin + d) walking around DC with knowledge of how wikileaks got the DNC emails" than have died from Fauci's wuhan omicron variant.
Who had '15 days to flatten the curve' on their bullshit bingo card?
I did...
Give me a break. People were openly fucking during the AIDS crisis.
Good advice to government bureaucrats from a hundred years ago:
'...In his book about the so-called Spanish flu of 1918, the American writer John M Barry concluded that the best medicine governments could dispense was unvarnished candour; “Distort nothing, put the best face on nothing [and] manipulate no one,” he wrote. In other words, don’t manage the truth — tell it.'
justine.mccarthy@sunday-times.ie
gilbar@ 7:46pm
DING, DING, DING!!!
They create their own chaos and blame it on anybody, or anything else.
I live in a bright red county, filled with refugees from the blue county North of us. It is bizarre to shop here with almost no one wearing masks & drive 10 miles north where almost everyone is wearing them. No wonder California is losing population.
" We live in a world full of neurotics who are loving every minute they get to wrap themselves up in that nice, comforting fear."
You know what is really the main comforting blankie? Denial. Denial lets us live each day, denial is our guardian against "existential despair," and denial is also the source of much the bravery of human kind. D Day should stand for denial day, because how could those young men have rushed that beach, were it not for denial? The human capacity for denial is almost unbounded.
Then you throw in transference, change the object of fear to something that deep down, you know is less harmful than the true cause of the fear. "It's those filthy racist deplorables and their orange fuhrer who are making this worse!"
Throw in these two elements of the human condition into a pot, and add a virus that does indeed kill large numbers of people, remember that a very small percentage of a very large number is still a large number, add a virus to the pot, and for a flame under it, add in a presidential election where there are trillions of dollars at stake, and you have a recipe to lay the whole human condition bare.
--- also irrationally afraid of the vaccines. [loudogblog]
Your "irrationally" may be premature, unfortunately. All-cause mortality has risen in many European countries whose populations have just finished blanket vaccination. And many of the cases are younger people. The collapse of soccer athletes on the field, some dead of heart attacks, is being passed off as "post-pandemic stress syndrome." Check data from the Netherlands, Scotland, Britain, Germany, Denmark... many that I have seen; could be true of all of them.
Unvaxxed.
Unmasked.
Unafraid.
One thing is clear: Repeatedly blasting an emergency alert brings its own risks. The last thing needed in a pandemic is a country of people too bored to pay attention and take action."
The experts and the Biden Regime they are a part of have lied so many times nobody believes them any more.
The damage isn't being done by people who refuse to obey liars.
It is being done by the liars.
No links then, Kai?
European countries which lagged in vaccination had much higher all cause mortality than those countries which had high vaccination rates, once the vaccines became available.
Name a country with "blanket vaccination," and let's look at it. People keep saying Vermont has 90% vaccination, but the actual percentage of the population is around 60%. Netherlands vaccination rate among young people, under 40, is more like 75%. COVID also causes heart attacks. Covid has the full clot forming spike, not just pieces of it like the vaccine. My mother died of a COVID generated heart attack. one of the ways COVID kills is by stroke and heart attack and other blood clot related conditions. We should not at all be surprised to see increases in these types of events. Separating them out from those you claim are caused by the vaccine is much harder work than just pointing to a couple of people who have had heart attacks during a pandemic of a virus which causes blood clots. Doctors tell patients to take aspirin for a coupe of weeks after recovery because of this very risk.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/comparisonsofallcausemortalitybetweeneuropeancountriesandregions/datauptoweekending3september2021
A lot of bloggers dishonestly report that the mortality rates for the vaccinated are nearly indistinguishable from the non vaccinated, but fail to mention that the older population, more at risk, is far more heavily vaccinated than the younger population , which rationally, often decides to skip the jab.
But if you have a decent link, and can explain in a few sentences the point that they are making, so that we have something to discuss, I will be happy to look at it.
Of the 1250 "excess deaths" in the Netherlands in November, 50 of them were under 65. Probably most of them were between 50 and 65, though the data doesn't seem to be binned that finely.
If I were 30, I would probably decide whether to get the vaccination based on other factors, since it probably would not personally benefit me, but this idea that somehow deaths caused by blood clotting due to the vaccine can be teased out of deaths cause by a clot causing virus without a lot better data than what we have now is the most errant nonsense. At best it's a hypothesis that if you include the pieces of the clot forming part of the virus in the vaccine, it will also cause clots. Sure, over billions of doses, you will see just about everything.
I see this kind of nonsense repeated ad nauseam over at Instapundit. There does not appear to be anything weird about the excess deaths in the Netherlands to me.
But once again, a link would be nice.
In local news- Scout leader CPR training cancelled because of covid restrictions enacted by the edicts of Dictator Hochul. I'm sure that will certainly save lives...
Notice how he gives examples of people on the right "ignoring science" because of the tribalism he references. An impartial observer would also note the tribalism on the left, looking to others similar to them to wear masks even in circumstances where mask-wearing will make no difference whatsoever, or defending leftist politicians like Cuomo when they make truly terrible decisions like forcing nursing homes to take COVID-positive residents. Those folks are every bit (and more) avoiding forming their own opinions in uncertainty, in favor of seeing what other people like them are doing.
Dave Begley,
Bigger hurdle is uncooperative pharmacists and hospital admins.
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Don't Worry Lindelof! Tim in Vermont says: "This Is NOT Happening!!"
actually, his direct quote is:
"La La La! If I Just PRETEND that things aren't happening, then I won't Know that they are Happening!"
Let's All be like Tim in Vermont!! Let's Keep Our Eyes Wide Shut!!!
tim in vermont: "European countries which lagged in vaccination had much higher all cause mortality than those countries which had high vaccination rates, once the vaccines became available."
Even the most inexperienced of statisticians can see the error in the above.
Tim in Vermont, I've seen you discuss.
I have a simple rule: If the media declares something to be a crisis, it is by definition not a true crisis.
This rule is also applicable for an apocalypse.
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