२४ मार्च, २०२१

"Writing about gender differences within the Latino vote is inherently thorny terrain. There’s a long-standing, racist stereotype..."

"... that associates Latino men with machismo — and, as we all saw for the past six years, Trump’s political brand was built partly on an exaggerated macho sensibility. Ian Haney López, a law professor at the University of California at Berkeley, told me that there is a risk of reducing Latino men’s support of Trump to being about machismo — which takes 'a pervasive social dynamic' and makes it into 'an attribute of Latino culture.' 'Patriarchy is a problem across racial groups,' he says, though he adds: 'It’s also fair to say if you’re a man in a low-status group, masculinity may become more important to claiming high status.' A better place to start might be jobs.... Trump’s image as a straight-talking businessman was definitely part of what appealed to my dad. He liked that Trump was a graduate of the Wharton School and that the former president grew up with men similar to those who worked with my grandfather...."

From "Trump, My Dad and the Rightward Shift of Latino Men/Why are Latino men moving away from Democrats? And how can liberals win them back? For me, it’s a topic that hits close to home" (WaPo).

१०५ टिप्पण्या:

rhhardin म्हणाले...

I don't associate machismo with Latino men. It must be displayed only to other Latino men.

I took five years of Latin in high school.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

My guess is that Latino men didn't feel that Trump was trying to fuck them over.

rehajm म्हणाले...

'Latinos' recognize a corrupt totalitarian government when they see one, and vote accordingly...

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

racist stereotype

You can be pretty sure they're lying when they emit that phrase.

wendybar म्हणाले...

People are sick of the little soy boys who are offended by everything like sissies.

Owen म्हणाले...

What rhhardin said. I think Latino men probably have really good bullshit filters and are able to see that Dems are trying to exploit them.

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

there is a risk of reducing Latino men’s support of Trump to being about machismo — which takes 'a pervasive social dynamic' and makes it into 'an attribute of Latino culture.'

There's a risk that a stereotype might be true. Oh noes!

"In Latino culture machismo is more than just a word as it is so embedded in the culture that it is not only accepted, but often even expected."

MayBee म्हणाले...

How about this: We stop categorizing the way people think based on the way they look?

For some reason, political strategizing has now made it ok to do this in every aspect of our lives. And its awful.

gilbar म्हणाले...

can't we All just agree, that if a person (man,woman,tran) supported President Trump...
That they were a Deplorable, Evil Person? Reeducation Camps seem the Only Way

MacMacConnell म्हणाले...

Maybe "God, Family, Country" have something to do with it. Latin men aren't stupid and most work their asses off.

Ron Winkleheimer म्हणाले...

Cause they realize that constant, uncontrolled immigration keeps wages low and while it might be great for upper class gringos, not so much for middle and working class Hispanics? Or maybe they worry that somebody might decide to have their kid's balls cut off and put him on puberty blockers, which the Democrats seem to be absolutely giddy over? Or maybe the condescension they get when they attend school board meetings to complain that their kids or spending way to much time learning to hate whitey and about anal sex and not nearly enough time on math? Or maybe its because Hispanic is a made up category and Central and South America are huge regions that, in addition to the original Spanish and Portuguese settlers had, like the US, waves of immigrants from all over the world over a couple of centuries and each country in those regions has its own unique culture and history?

gilbar म्हणाले...

The Good News IS:
It no longer Matters what voters want; All that Matters is how their votes are counted
And, Fortunately; Their votes will be counted as Democrat votes

mezzrow म्हणाले...

Imagine the possibilities when the WaPo discovers that Latino men can be just as nuanced and discerning as Anglo or African or Asian men when coming to conclusions about the reasons they make political decisions.

I'm not holding my breath, though.

Browndog म्हणाले...

More "blogging the propaganda from the NYT/Wapo".

Next thing you know, the Althouse commentariat will only speak of individual men and women of Latin American heritage as a group with no discernible traits among them, using the exact same language and terminology used by cultural marxists to deprive individuals of their humanity.

tim maguire म्हणाले...

Democrats can win back Latino men easily. All they need to do is give a crap about their interests and the quality of their lives. Like Trump did.

Mr Wibble म्हणाले...

There's something darkly funny about the fact that the GOP establishment has for years tried to claim that latinos are "natural conservatives" but then fought tooth and nail against Trump, the only Republican who's attitude and history could hope to win over those latino voters.

Don't worry, once we have amnesty all those "natural conservatives" will gravitate to us based on the draw of lower corporate income taxes, outsourcing manufacturing jobs overseas, and the "blessings of liberty" that are drag queens twerking for children. Please clap.

chuck म्हणाले...

Trump was physical, Democrats are mental.

Ron Winkleheimer म्हणाले...

I was reading about a South American country the other day, can't remember which one, where in one half of the country they speak a language that is a conglomeration of Spanish and Portuguese, while in the other half they speak a more standard Spanish, but with an Italian accent.

Jeff Brokaw म्हणाले...

I don’t give clicks to that rag any longer, so I’m forced to use only the pull quotes, but Latinos in general were in favor of the stricter immigration policies that Trump enforced.

Any mention of that? The odds are slim and none, and slim just left town.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

"A better place to start might be jobs"

But it's a non-starter. Dems just told us in the Covid "relief" bill that you need no stinkin' job. All you need is a handout, for the children. Sure, there will be some Hispanics here and there who prefer to stick to the old work ethic, but many will enjoy the greater access to other people's money.

Lawrence Person म्हणाले...

Th unironic use of the word "patriarchy" is the point at which you should have stopped reading.

But really, why read the Washington Post at all if you can help it?

MayBee म्हणाले...

Why is it a "racist stereotype" to talk about Latino men engaging in machismo, but not racist stereotyping to talk about how Latino people vote?

Owen म्हणाले...

Brow dog @ 7:09: “...Althouse commentariat...”. So in order to mock people who comment here (in your view wrongly) treating the object of their comments (here, Latinos) in terms of collectives instead of (in your view rightly) as individual humans, you yourself refer to those commenters...collectively.

Way to get caught in your own web there, my friend.

Kevin म्हणाले...

Yet another article from the anti-racists that's all about race.

Browndog म्हणाले...

Owen said...

I wasn't mocking anybody. Maybe give a little thought to what propaganda is, and why it's effective. Even the best and brightest can be subconsciously conditioned to certain thought patterns.

I take it you were personally offended. You shouldn't be. It was not my intent, my friend.

DavidUW म्हणाले...

Ron, That would be Uruguay.

It's a nice place. Stable, reasonably well run, pretty cheap. Nice beaches, nice inland countryside. Vineyards, ranches, one major city and easy access to another (Buenos Aires).



Quaestor म्हणाले...

Like everything else machismo is relative.

Hispanic men haven't changed. Their machismo level has remained constant. It's the hipster sissies with their wingeing, whining, and Tinkerbelle man-buns who are widening the contrast gap between Nature and Woke

DavidUW म्हणाले...

What's missing from this excerpt, and I'm not going to read the article, is that Latinas expect their men to be men. So, Latinos behave like men in order to attract women.

White women have buried that expectation under the crusty layers of "feminism" and are so far gone, they don't even realize that when they bitch about men, that's what they're missing. An actual man.

iowan2 म्हणाले...

I refuse to accept the part about President Trump's "brand" was built on machismo. That's the narrative. It lacks any substance to support it.
Unless you consider his management style as Machismo.
Its not. It's goal driven. What's the goal OK here are the steps I'm going to take to reach the goal. No room for 'feels' or pc adherence. No focus on diversity, or concern for how it will affect political capital. Goal>actions>actions>evaluate>goals>actions>results.
No touchy feely for those looking for validation by seem means other than results.

I'm going through this with a social group I found myself in charge of.
The old way was lots of committees, lots of talk,lots of concern about how the leadership is perceived.
I've found the mission statement, defined the goals and taking steps to reach goals. I have heard there are hurt feelings. I tell all the rest of the committee to have those concerns call me. My phone is silent. I will listen to all. My driving guiding light will always be the mission statement. My safe haven. My fortress that cannot be breached.

That's not machismo, its goal driven action.

I Callahan म्हणाले...

Allow me to be blunt: "Machismo" is the natural state; feminism is not. The reason Latin men are still in the former state is that they haven't had to deal with 100 years of soul-sucking American public schooling. Yet.

This article is the first step in pushing Latinos in that direction. For what it's worth, I hope they resist this 100%, since Americans decided not to resist.

Owen म्हणाले...

Browndog: no offense taken. I was amused —as were you— at how easily (inevitably?) we speak of generalities and categories. And there I go again!

Browndog म्हणाले...

Owen said...

Browndog: no offense taken. I was amused —as were you— at how easily (inevitably?) we speak of generalities and categories. And there I go again!


Well played, sir.

You have a good day.

Kai Akker म्हणाले...

In an overly feminized society like ours, a normal man like Trump or one of his male supporters is the biggest threat to the status quo.

Lurker21 म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Lurker21 म्हणाले...

This is another "What's the Matter With Kansas?" thing. People vote their interest. Very often it's their immediate material interest.

I'm not saying other concerns don't come into play, but that's the first place one should look. Psychologizing only comes into it afterwards, if at all. It's dehumanizing to reduce others to psychological motivations that we ascribe to them (it's also dehumanizing to reduce their motivations to the purely economic and material).

Ron Winkleheimer म्हणाले...

Thanks DavidUW. I just told my wife we should take a vacation there.

Jeff Brokaw म्हणाले...

Toxic Masculinity, Latino Edition. Best ignored.

Known Unknown म्हणाले...

I thought Trump acted like a lady? (Which our host has demonstrated and I tend to sort-of agree with.)

Lurker21 म्हणाले...

I was reading about a South American country the other day, can't remember which one, where in one half of the country they speak a language that is a conglomeration of Spanish and Portuguese, while in the other half they speak a more standard Spanish, but with an Italian accent.

That sounds like Uruguay. Given the massive Italian immigration to Uruguay and Argentina, it would be surprising if people there didn't speak with remnants of an Italian accent. Apparently, there is a language or dialect in the north of Uruguay called Uruguayan Portuguese or Riverense or fronteiriço, but a freer, more improvised form of communication called Portuñol or Portunhol also exists throughout the country, at least according to Wikipedia. Distinguishing between languages and dialects and improvised forms of communications is hard, though. Over the border in Brazil, some cities and towns have dialects of Italian or German as official languages in addition to Portuguese.

Sam L. म्हणाले...

I trust NOTHING from the WaPoo, too.

Michael K म्हणाले...

More WaPoo BS.

Lurker21 म्हणाले...

Ian Haney López. I remember him.

Haney López born on July 6, 1964, in Hawaii where he was raised. His father, Terrence Haney, is from Washington. His mother, Maria López Haney, is from El Salvador. Ian changed his surname from Haney to Haney López while a graduate student at Princeton University to honor the Latino tradition of using both his parents' names, though also to resist the "honorary whiteness" that is sometimes offered to accomplished people of color.

Sounds like a good career move.

Though he may just have gotten sick of the Green Acres jokes.

If he has brothers and sisters I wonder what they call themselves and what identity they claim.

walter म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Bruce Hayden म्हणाले...

“I refuse to accept the part about President Trump's "brand" was built on machismo. That's the narrative. It lacks any substance to support it.”

Sure, Trump did provide minorities more of what they really needed, by actually trying to improve the economy, instead of seeing government service as a mechanism for graft and getting rich. But he also had a swagger, a bombast, that working class men like, as well as do Hispanic men. This was long a mainstay in Dem politicians, with their ties to working class and minority communities (and, yes, Joe Biden had much more of than Barack Obama, who was smooth and bland enough to be an old style Republican politician), while Republican politicians portrayed themselves publicly as urbane and non offensive. Look how more sophisticated we look than those crude Democrats. But the party boundaries are changing, with Republicans moving down market into formerly strong Dem strongholds, while the elite college educated demographic moves towards the Democrats, because that is where they see the money and power. Long run, I think that the advantage is with the Republicans, because the Democrats have to defend themselves on two fronts, with their split constituencies: the rich and educated on the one side, and welfare recipients on the other. They cannot have a consistent message, because the needs of the two constituencies are so different.

Kai Akker म्हणाले...


" 'Patriarchy is a problem across racial groups,' he says, "

Ian Haney Lopez. I see Lurker 21's comment, which only adds conviction to my reaction to the above -- that this fellow is a Berkeley professor because he has trained himself to cater to the feminist controllers in this fashion. Absent that obeisance, it is an absurd claim.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

"There's a long-standing, racist stereotype that associates Latino men with machismo ..."

WHich is so ridiculous, because everyone knows "machismo" is a Norwegian word!

walter म्हणाले...

“Trump was my 17th.” Toward the end of the election, I remember him saying that he would “hold my nose and vote for Trump.”

But by this past November, something had changed. As far as I can tell, my dad voted while breathing through his nose as clearly as somebody could when wearing a face mask. Not only did he enthusiastically support Donald Trump, he gave money to the Republican National Committee. Though he has supported every GOP presidential candidate since 1980, he now contrasts them all unfavorably with Trump. “They can’t compare with what Trump has done,” he told me recently. “And some of the things that he came up with I said, ‘Oh man, why did you do that, Trump? That’s not going to go over well.’ And it turns out, my God, what a brilliant move! I had no idea. He’s just a master.”
<
Both Latino men and women may share economic and status anxiety, of course. But Latinas — like female voters across ethnic categories — were repelled by Trump’s disrespect toward women and his bragging about sexual assault. "

Hmmm...sounds similar to the broader dynamic. Perhaps WAP00 is overplaying race, unexpectedly.

" Indeed, when I asked my dad about what he liked about Trump, he replied, “Oh my God, son, the list is endless.” As he walked around his neighborhood in January — 10 days after Biden was inaugurated — and spoke to me on the phone, he rattled off a litany of what he saw as Trump’s accomplishments: lower taxes, diplomatic agreements between Israel and its Arab neighbors, the low Black and Latino unemployment rates before covid-19 wrecked the economy. He praised Trump’s tough stance on China and his move to subsidize farmers to offset the effects of his trade conflict.

None of these policy preferences are unique to Latinos or to Latino men.
--
Gotta see that pic of Black Eyed Joementia addressing faceless sombreros.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Trump was wealthy but grew up with guys on the job site.

That is a different culture and he was comfortable with that.

It seems to me that he is just as at-home talking to a plumber about a job as he is a Prime Minister about a treaty.

I think he appreciates the skill of blue collar workers and respects them for it.

I think they know that and the respect is mutual.

Jeff Vader म्हणाले...

So trump was the one the campaign trail threatening to beat up people or challenging them to shows of strength? Seems the current turnip in charge thinks of himself as quite the tough guy

Howard म्हणाले...

My lily liberal libtard brother always claimed that if you scratch latin, you will see the underlying fascist. Goes hand in glove with machismo misogyny.

Ron Winkleheimer म्हणाले...

Ian changed his surname from Haney to Haney López while a graduate student at Princeton University to honor the Latino tradition of using both his parents' names, though also to resist the "honorary whiteness" that is sometimes offered to accomplished people of color.

What a bunch of bullshit. He wanted to make sure everyone knew he was "Latino" because that advantages him in the environment he inhabits.

Howard म्हणाले...

Stand back, Joe. The smell of fresh cock on your breath is overpowering.

Blogger Joe Smith said...
Trump was wealthy but grew up with guys on the job site.

That is a different culture and he was comfortable with that.

It seems to me that he is just as at-home talking to a plumber about a job as he is a Prime Minister about a treaty.

I think he appreciates the skill of blue collar workers and respects them for it.

I think they know that and the respect is mutual.

n.n म्हणाले...

Diversity dogma (i.e. color judgments), not limited to racism, sexism, that denies individual dignity, individual conscience, intrinsic value, and normalizes color blocs (e.g. people of color), color quotas, and affirmative discrimination. Sex: male and female, matters with physiological differences. Otherwise, it's like the Pro-Choice religion that summarily discriminates between individuals based on low information attributes including age.

Bob Smith म्हणाले...

Might be because most of them work for a living.

DavidUW म्हणाले...

What a bunch of bullshit. He wanted to make sure everyone knew he was "Latino" because that advantages him in the environment he inhabits.
>>
Yep. Reminds me a couple guys who magically became Latino when it generated scholarships.
Both had Latino mothers and gringo dads.

one was 6'4", blue eyed dude who used it to get into Medical school. He was smart enough, not sure why he picked the affirmative action route except maybe to get into the better med school (U Michigan) that he applied to.

The other was both blonde and blue eyed. the son of a Colombian model mom and investment banker dad who bought him a house and car when he went to grad school at the UC-Berkeley. Naturally he got the "minority" fellowship from NSF. I'm sure that also helped him become a university professor at a Ivy league school that shall remain nameless but is also a color.

Mary Beth म्हणाले...

It makes sense if your definition of "Machismo" is putting policies in place that help create jobs for men (as well as everyone else). Especially the kinds of jobs where men can work and support a family. Can't have that. If women have a choice to either work or stay home with the kids, too many might stay home and that hurts the leftist narrative.

walter म्हणाले...

Certain comments here making Lizzy Fauxcahontas Warren uneasy.
Gonna have herself...a beer.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Why are Latino men moving away from Democrats? And how can liberals win them back?

Commentator tim maguire (7:11) summarizes it very nicely. People who came to the United States to build a better life are not going to be happy when your overblown response to COVID-19 costs them their jobs, or when your beloved Antifa and BLM burn down the businesses into which they put their hard-earned money and their sweat equity. They wanted a safe place to raise their children; liberal Democrats gave them MS-13.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

It seems that some on this forum have never known an actual, honest-to-God blue collar man, or who have never done any meaningful manual labor.

Must be weird when all of your friends are liberals, soy boys, homosexuals, or a combination of the aforementioned.

n.n म्हणाले...

Toxic masculinity, obviously. Perhaps liberals can inject men with female hormones, or indoctrinate them in reeducation camps, to mitigate the risk of another "Great Society". Although, whether male or female, father or mother, their inequitable instinct to protect their daughters will not change. You can't abort the baby, cannibalize her profitable parts, sequester her carbon pollutants, and have her, too. Choice, not Pro-Choice.

Matt म्हणाले...

All races hate pussies. That's why the left loves them - another victim group.

Howard म्हणाले...

You got that wrong, Matt. Lefty's hate you Trumpussy cucks.

Howard म्हणाले...

Bone spurs hurt.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Howard is having another bad day. Stay out of central Mass today.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Bone spurs hurt.

They sure as Hell do, you son of a streetwalking whore.

hstad म्हणाले...


Blogger Big Mike said...
"...Why are Latino men moving away from Democrats? And how can liberals win them back?..."
3/24/21, 10:30 AM

Having grown up in Latin America, Machismo, is a term of endearment and Latin Women expect that of men. Some bloggers on this site state that "white women" don't care for the "Patriarchy"? Really? Then why do so many "white women" want to marry men that are at least 6 foot, have 6 figure incomes, 6 pack abs and 600 horsepower cars. BTW, these type of men are rare, so supply and demand is a problem.

But I digress, "WaPo" and their writer know that if Democrats lose Hispanics, it's the end of their power. In fact, statistics show that new immigrants vote in large numbers for Democrats. Unfortunately, statistics also show that the second generation of Hispanics are quite conservative and vote accordingly. Democrats are associated with destroying the family unit, since the mid '60s, attack religion and Hispanics beliefs (the Gay crowd) because by and large Hispanics are overwhelmingly against Gay Marriage. 14 countries in Latin America, in a Pew Research Study, people voiced, by more than 50%, that they are against Gay Marriage. This does not bode well for Democrats and their current propoganda for LGBTQ. In fact, Puerto Rico, the most Americanized of Latin Countries, are in opposition to Gay Marriage by 55%.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"Bone spurs hurt."

Odd, no questions by the media or Biden backers about his asthma deferrals.

In fact, he received 5 deferrals to Trump's 4.

You know, asthma, something difficult to prove other than taking the word of the 'sufferer.'

And this from a man (Biden) who bragged about his athletic prowess when in school.

There are x-rays for bone spurs...

Temujin म्हणाले...

Some cultures are more attracted to strong leadership. Think: Eastern Europe, Russia, Middle East, and much of South & Central America. In other cultures the more empathetic appearing person (read: weaker) is more appealing. Think: Obama. But here in the US we've had a mix of both strong and weak leaders (we're setting new standards for weak leadership currently).

The US media portrays strong leadership as akin to Dictatorship mixed with Nazism. It's not the case here at all. But it's the premise of articles that talk about how Hispanics are moving toward the right. The thing often left out is that many Hispanics from South America, Central America, and obviously from Cuba, have lived under Socialism and extreme Dictatorships. They've lived under extreme LEFT rule previously.

And they don't want it anymore. They moved here hoping to get away from that.

walter म्हणाले...

"new immigrants vote in large numbers for Democrats"
Especially "immigrants" arriving in "Biden, let us in" shirts.
The kids trafficked in to be sex workers have unknown voting proclivities.
I mean, is John Weaver on an ankle bracelet tracker?

robother म्हणाले...

Well, sure Latino men might've moved toward Trump. But did this guy even look at the voting patterns of the men who identify as Latinix?

walter म्हणाले...

Biden has brain spurs.

Browndog म्हणाले...

Texas Monthly has a very good article about the white liberal gentrification of Austin. White liberals from Silicon Valley are now targeting black and Hispanic car clubs that have existed for decades. The same people that demand "defund the police" demand the police shut them down-

One particularly vocal tenant, a non-Hispanic white woman with short blond hair who appeared to be in her fifties, claimed that smoke from the tires was killing nearby trees and that traffic from the gathering would make it impossible for an ambulance to reach her in the event of a medical emergency (though two other roads to the apartment building remain accessible at all times). Another Weaver resident voiced more generalized criticism, calling the event a “display of toxic masculinity.”

..a twentysomething member of a car club in shorts and a T-shirt, who said he goes by the nickname “Kilo,” calmly watched the bizarre scene unfold. Born and raised in Austin, he said he’d been coming to the park to check out custom cars and connect with old friends since he was a kid. He wondered why instead of calling the police and creating unnecessary tension the blond woman and other angry residents hadn’t walked across the street and introduced themselves first, opening up dialogue. “If you come with good energy, you’ll find out that we’re just here to chill and enjoy the cars and the scenery,” he said. “Don’t be scared.”

walter म्हणाले...

"a non-Hispanic white woman"

JaimeRoberto म्हणाले...

I used to work with some Hispanic guys. Machismo is definitely a thing. But I also think that Trump's popularity might have something to do with the fact that he didn't try to stifle industries that many of them work in.

walter म्हणाले...

The gal is concerned about trees being killed by 2nd hand tire smoke.
She's not one to chill.

Static Ping म्हणाले...

TL;DR: If you do not vote the way I like, there is something wrong with you that needs to be fixed.

Perfectly appropriate article for a propaganda rag like the WaPo.

Howard म्हणाले...

Cock breath is contagious Joe. You have infected Big and Doc Mikes. None of this would have happened if you people followed Dr. Fauci's recommendation to wear double masks.

robother म्हणाले...

Howard: "Stand back, Joe. The smell of fresh cock on your breath is overpowering."

That Howard, now THERE'S a macho guy. No sissy argumentation or rebutting(!) for him. He slings homo insults with the best of the anonymous internet trolls. Gotta admire a man with guts like that.

narciso म्हणाले...

Speaking of someone with that skill set


https://mobile.twitter.com/BecketAdams/status/1374798447115698181

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Funny how the insults keep flying, but the left has never had, and will never have, anything to say about Biden's deferments.

I'll take this one as a solid win. A shutout even.

Thanks for playing. Try to keep up next time.

Browndog म्हणाले...

narciso said...

Speaking of someone with that skill set


https://mobile.twitter.com/BecketAdams/status/1374798447115698181


This is not available to you

I feel disenfranchised.

narciso म्हणाले...


The big picture


https://pandemic.warroom.org/2021/03/24/episode-822-orchestrated-chaos-the-globalists-engineered-border-crisis-w-eric-greitens-david-rodriguez-craig-sawyer-clarice-schillinger/

narciso म्हणाले...


Making the point plain

well, if there’s anyone in the White House who knows a thing or to about rounding up kids ...
Quote Tweet
NBC Politics
@NBCPolitics
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BREAKING: President Biden says he has appointed VP Harris to lead efforts on stemming migration across the US-Mexico border; Harris will focus on coordination with Mexico and the Northern Triangle, Biden says. https://nbcnews.to/3tRPa1n
3:01 PM · Mar 24, 2021·TweetDeck

अनामित म्हणाले...

Here's my prejudice: Having been around "Latino" men and women my whole life, I am confident this is just B.S. Of the thousands of men, I've known, none of them had a name that started with anything close to Ian Haney so he perhaps needs to write about how that impacts his life.

Browndog म्हणाले...

Time for conservative to stop talking about "kids in cages" and start talking about why children must be separated from adults at the border.

Pointing out hypocrisy to "own the libs" just makes them laugh.

No one wants to talk about human/child smuggling, which has supplanted drugs as the number one money making scheme for the cartels.

Browndog म्हणाले...

By the way. "Latino" is another made up race/victim group by democrats. That topic for another time.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"Time for conservative to stop talking about "kids in cages" and start talking about why children must be separated from adults at the border."

Maybe...but an even bigger question is, why are children younger than 12 coming across the border alone?

"In February, 29,792 unaccompanied children crossed the border without their parents, of whom 2,942 were under age 12, according to US Customs and Border Protection."

I don't think it was their idea...

walter म्हणाले...

Howard Cloward,
3 masks or you're not trying.
Especially with those Rona positive "migrants" coming to a town near you.

narciso म्हणाले...

that's spelled destroy this country,


https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/03/report-biden-may-support-ending-filibuster-to-push-through-once-in-a-lifetime-change/

Browndog म्हणाले...

Cartels smugglers used to charge about half to smuggle a child what they would charge adults.

Now, they charge up to 3 times what they charge adults. Why? Because a "child" is guaranteed not to be deported, nor will their "escort".

By the way, a "child" is anyone under 18, though, because they are undocumented, anyone that says they're 17 is 17.

walter म्हणाले...

Might be a nice labor opportunity for your toxic waste crews.

Browndog म्हणाले...

Children are being bought and sold, shipped to a different country the same way they were in the early-mid 1700's from W. Africa.

Got your attention yet?

narciso म्हणाले...


the bigger picture,

https://meaninginhistory.blogspot.com/2021/03/more-sedition-hoax-white-supremacy.html

yes the cartels which in one respect, include fmr guatemalan and mexican special forces, as their muscle,

n.n म्हणाले...

Children are being bought and sold, shipped to a different country the same way they were in the early-mid 1700's from W. Africa.

Social justice, progress: one step forward, two steps backward #HateLovesAbortion

That said, emigration reform to mitigate progress and collateral damage at both ends of the bridge and throughout.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Howard dropping turds in the thread like the troll he is. I know you lefties don't like being called trolls. Maybe you could post something interesting sometime.

walter म्हणाले...

So..supposedly when cartels gang rape their cargo, the throw the bras and panties into "rape trees".

walter म्हणाले...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/cesar-chavez-bust-behind-president-joe-biden-oval-office-stirs-n1255082

KellyM म्हणाले...

Ron Winkleheimer said...
"Ian changed his surname from Haney to Haney López while a graduate student at Princeton University to honor the Latino tradition of using both his parents' names, though also to resist the "honorary whiteness" that is sometimes offered to accomplished people of color.

What a bunch of bullshit. He wanted to make sure everyone knew he was "Latino" because that advantages him in the environment he inhabits."

I knew a woman (co-worker of husband years ago) whose family came to CA from Mexico. During the 2016 election cycle she was a virulent Never-Trumper and would post things about how she was embarrassed to be white and have Trump as a potential presidential candidate. Then, in the next breath, she’d brag about filling out her eldest child’s college applications and ticking the box for “Hispanic” so as to take advantage of the set-asides available for minorities. I didn’t want to get into a nasty thread on Twitter over it but it really burned my biscuits. How nice to be able to play both sides of the fence when convenient.

Skippy Tisdale म्हणाले...

"Trump, My Dad and the Rightward Shift of Latino Men/Why are Latino men moving away from Democrats? And how can liberals win them back? For me, it’s a topic that hits close to home" (WaPo).

So it's a sporting event. You know, like tennis or something.

Eric Garcia needs to go fuck himself. Daily.

Francisco D म्हणाले...

Howard has reverted back to his penis obsession.

Interesting.

Skippy Tisdale म्हणाले...

Howard has reverted back to his penis obsession.


People want what they cannot have. It's just human nature.

Skippy Tisdale म्हणाले...

How about this: We stop categorizing the way people think based on the way they look?

For some reason, political strategizing has now made it ok to do this in every aspect of our lives.


What Makes America Great?

It's candied apples and ponies with dapples
you can ride all day!
It's girls with pimples
And cripples with dimples
that just wont go away !
Its spics and wops and niggers and kikes
with noses as long as your arm!
Its micks and chinks and gooks and geeks
and honkies
(Honk! Honk!)
who never left the farm !

- Firesign Theatre

n.n म्हणाले...

How about this: We stop categorizing the way people think based on the way they look?

Diversity dogma directs us to exercise liberal license to indulge color judgments for social progress per chance social justice. #HateLovesAbortion

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/cesar-chavez-bust-behind-president-joe-biden-oval-office-stirs-n1255082"

This is great news...

Chavez was NOT a fan of illegal immigrants taking his farmworkers' jobs.

I believe he referred to them as 'wetbacks.'

Now if only Joe takes his cues from Cesar.

Kirk Parker म्हणाले...

Lurker21,

"Distinguishing between languages and dialects... is hard"

Actually, it's quite easy: a language has an army, a dialect doesn't.

--Kirk (former working linguist)