१३ मार्च, २०२१

Iconic pose.

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I remember staring at that album cover at Two Guys, trying to figure out if I should spend my scarce money on an unheard folksinger rather than retreating to the rock section. Just because I love The Byrds doesn't mean I want to listen to that kind of thing sung by this person in the very strange photograph.  I'd read about Bob Dylan — pronounced, in my head, "DIE-lan" — in Life Magazine, but still. And yet... that photograph. Gaze into it long enough, and you feel you need to tumble into that world... what's going on in there? I need this thing if only for that photograph. I bought the exotic album and that made all the difference.

From my unwritten essay, "Bringing It All Back Home to Two Guys."

४८ टिप्पण्या:

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

Here's Amanda's "You've Got Me Singing" album cover.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

It's a sort of "I am useless" pose.

Humperdink म्हणाले...

Her neck needs to be arched a bit more.

IamDevo म्हणाले...

As someone said in an entirely different context, "Don't bother me none."

Mr. Forward म्हणाले...

Neville Chamberlain bragged about his personal diplomacy sitting on the couch with Adolph Hitler. Eva Braun was quoted as saying “If only Chamberlain knew the history of that couch.”

MayBee म्हणाले...

She looks like she was fabulous.

Eric the Fruit Bat म्हणाले...

I didn't think that iconic meant the same thing as classic so I looked it up.

In doing so I hit upon the word ghoul which is defined as "[a]n evil spirit or demon in Muslim folklore believed to plunder graves and feed on corpses."

Money Manger म्हणाले...

With a cigarette surgically attached to her index finger it’s a miracle she made it to 81.

Whiskeybum म्हणाले...

An underwhelming ‘wow’. Someone again gets media attention for being the wife of someone else who worked with someone of fame/talent. What would we be celebrating about this woman if she wasn’t related to Dylan’s manager? Her Wiki article explains how she qualified for posing in this picture: “Grossman took part because "I was around, and Bob just asked me to do it." So much for ‘fame/talent’.

I Have Misplaced My Pants म्हणाले...

I’m so glad smoking isn’t a thing anymore. It’s utterly revolting. I honestly can’t even process an intersection between sexual attractiveness and being a smoker. Instant, 100% turnoff.

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

I didn't think that iconic meant the same thing as classic so I looked it up.

The main definition seems to be something like "characteristic of a picture", which is frightfully meta in this case.

MayBee म्हणाले...

I'd read about Bob Dylan — pronounced, in my head, "DIE-lan" — in Life Magazine, but still.

Hahahhahah! I was in my 20s before I found out Bob DIE-lan, whom I always read about, and Bob Dillon, whom I always heard about, were the same man.

Mr. Forward म्हणाले...

Pants you’re not wrong but once upon a time lighting a cigarette was a sure way to meet risky women.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Gaze into it long enough, and you feel you need to tumble into that world... what's going on in there?

And, sadly, it doesn’t seem that you ever really quite grew up.

Laslo Spatula म्हणाले...

Those of you who fall for Bob Dylan need to take responsibility for your cheesy love affairs?

I am Laslo.

Lurker21 म्हणाले...

I never saw the album cover, but we did have the Lyndon Johnson Man of the Year Time magazine in the basement before we cleared it out.

To judge from the recent picture of Dylan on the Twitter responses, he needs to get a haircut before he starts getting confused with Phil Spector.

Lurker21 म्हणाले...

I honestly can’t even process an intersection between sexual attractiveness and being a smoker.

Too many nuns saying over and over again how disgusting and repellent smoking was, made it seem exciting and enticing.

For the rest of the country, it was advertising and the movies.

tcrosse म्हणाले...

Suze Rotolo, who adorned the cover of The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, was more to my taste. De gustibus.

Lloyd W. Robertson म्हणाले...

Carefully arranged picture, photographer Daniel Kramer gets a lot of credit.
http://biabhcoverposers.yolasite.com/cover-photographs.php
Dylan apparently liked the fact that one of his "old," acoustic-folksy-protest albums is there, but almost hidden. He is in a transition. Details in the picture: various kinds of music that might influence a leader in pop and rock in the 60s; an album by "Lord Buckley," actually an American, both comedy and music, "part English royalty, part Dizzy Gillespie"; Ravi Shankar for his music, also hinting of Eastern religion; a copy of the I Ching to nail the Eastern religion piece; a magazine published in Europe by an American, with a focus on Beat poets; an unidentified magazine with an ad for a biography of Jean Harlow--Hollywood beauty, not entirely unlike Ms. Grossman?; an old framed portrait in oil, somehow matching the mantel and perhaps matching an old house, painting apparently still not identified. On the other hand, LBJ as Time's Man of the year, and a Fallout Shelter Sign: boomer message: SOMETHING IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW THAT IS REALLY QUITE IMPORTANT.

Stone house built in 1917, with features that might seem older. Officially "Goodbrooks," now listed as within the boundaries of Woodstock, NY. Always seems to have been owned by artists or artsy types--fairly recently Robbie Robertson.

Question: were boomers, or boomer artists, generally as eclectic as Dylan b. 1941(not a boomer)? Is there anyone famous today who is as eclectic, or eclectic in that way? Is the eclectism in this picture not so much "the world is a fascinating place" as "Americans can make something pretty interesting out of the world"? Taking and using what they want?

Ryan म्हणाले...

Albert is a cuck.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"It's a sort of "I am useless" pose."

She's sure got a lot of gall/To be so useless and all/Muttering small talk at the wall/While I'm in the hall...

Fritz म्हणाले...

I had an English teacher in 7th grade who introduced us to Bob Dylan. She was hot.

chickelit म्हणाले...

Mr. Forward said...Pants you’re not wrong but once upon a time lighting a cigarette was a sure way to meet risky women.

"The force that through the white fuse drives the flower" ~ Another Dylan

Meade म्हणाले...

Pants just smoked my eyelids and punched my cigarette.

Francisco D म्हणाले...

Maybe smoking is why people seemed so much skinnier in those days.

chickelit म्हणाले...

Lurker21 said...To judge from the recent picture of Dylan on the Twitter responses, he needs to get a haircut...

What, and look like you?

William म्हणाले...

She looks bored in an interesting way, at least in the first photo. In that last photo, she doesn't look like much fun. Maybe she ended up with the face she deserved......Humphrey Bogart really knew how to represent man's existential plight in his efforts to draw sustenance from a cigarette. Consumed by what which it was nourished by. She has some of that in her pose.....Audrey Hepburn in the pose for Breakfast at Tiffany's treated the cigarette as more of a fashion accessory. She wasn't a true committed smoker in the way this woman and Humphrey Bogart were.....Humphrey Bogart died relatively young. If you feed on the poison, you don't make yourself immune to the poison.

Biff म्हणाले...

Two Guys! There was a Two Guys supermarket in my NJ hometown! So many memories flooding back! A hot dog cart as soon as you walked in. Regular groceries, clothes, records, jewelry...sort of a much smaller, 1960s-1970s version of Target/Walmart. I bought my first 45s and LPs there.

virgil xenophon म्हणाले...

PANTS@7:07AM/

LOL. As a collegiate scholarship athlete & son of a Hall of Fame College Coach, I never smoked in a day when it was quite common (I'll be 77 in May) but the best characterization of the "turn-off"of smoking was a comment a fraternity brother of mine made when he described kissing a woman who smoked as "like licking an ashtray"(And oh SO true!)

Tom T. म्हणाले...

My condolences to her family. These remembrances of pop ephemera, however, are treating her as literally part of the furniture. What did she do in life? Did she have a family?

Brian McKim and/or Traci Skene म्हणाले...

In 1974, when I was first getting into the Grateful Dead (in preperation for seeing them live at the Philadelphia Civic Center), I attempted to buy their greatest hits album, "Skeletons From The Closet," at Two Guys in Cherry Hill, NJ. Their LP prices were the best in the area.

I got it home and it was seriously warped! I took it back and they cheerfully exchanged it for another copy, which was also warped!

As there were no more copies of SFTC, I "settled" for "American Beauty." I am glad I did, as it is, in my opinion (and in the opinion of many others) their best album.

As for Two Guys, they were the go-to, '70s precursor to Walmart and a godsend to working class families in So. Jersey and elsewhere. So odd to see them referenced here, then I remember that The Professor is a Delawareńa by birth, IIRC.

Lurker21 म्हणाले...


The nuns make licking an ashtray sound fun and exciting.

My dad used to say "Two Guys from Harrison" every now and then. I never knew what he was talking about.

They tore down Pennsauken Mart. You can't go home again.

Ken B म्हणाले...

I have never seen that album cover before.

BUMBLE BEE म्हणाले...

Professor!
She's sure got a lot of gall/To be so useless and all/Muttering small talk at the wall/While I'm in the hall...
The nerve of quoting Dr. Seuss, and so early in the morning!

rcocean म्हणाले...

I can see why they painted and photographed her "nose on". The sideview is unflattering.

Laslo Spatula म्हणाले...

"Bringing It All Back Home to Two Guys."

I think that is playing on Pornhub.

I am Laslo.

Jaq म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Joe Smith म्हणाले...

It's one thing to have a signature 'look' (Steve Jobs, Anna Wintour), but it's a whole other level to have your own pose.

I can only think of Derek Zoolander with 'Steel' or 'Magnum.'

She was kind of a hottie back in the day, but time waits for no man (or woman).

I also think the red dress really helped to sell it.

Amexpat म्हणाले...

Great album cover for one of Dylan's greatest albums. The LBJ Time magazine cover ties in nicely with the famous line contained within:
"But even the president of the United States:
Sometimes must have to stand naked"

Read that Dylan made a trade with Sally Grossman - a Warhol painting of Elvis for her couch. Always wondered if that was the couch on the album cover. Got the negative answer in the post.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Look like a pack of Luckies in other photo.

eddie willers म्हणाले...

I was in my 20s before I found out Bob DIE-lan, whom I always read about, and Bob Dillon, whom I always heard about, were the same man.

I was so embarrassed when I learned that 'fox pass' and 'pho pah' were the same word: faux pas.

Jaq म्हणाले...

"The sideview is unflattering.”

Bullshit, she’s beautiful.

Jaq म्हणाले...

I am watching The Odd Couple, and you know what? I would love to just fall into that world too.

अनामित म्हणाले...

Sally Grossman doesn't strike me as a Master-recycler who would Karen her way through life.

Lyle Sanford, RMT म्हणाले...

John Wesley Harding was my first Dylan album, and going back to the earlier ones was amazing. "You feel you need to tumble into that world" says it so well. Your deploying the "useless" quote gave me a visceral reaction. As I've said before, your Dylan blogging is maybe my favorite. He so deserved that Nobel.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

“ As for Two Guys, they were the go-to, '70s precursor to Walmart and a godsend to working class families in So. Jersey and elsewhere. So odd to see them referenced here, then I remember that The Professor is a Delawareńa by birth, IIRC.”

I lived in Wayne, New Jersey from 1964 to 1969.

अनामित म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Earnest Prole म्हणाले...

I dig chicks with beaks, and I dug Sally Grossman.