The mayor of the city, London Breed, released a statement saying, “What I cannot understand is why the school board is advancing a plan of all these schools renamed by April when there isn’t a plan to have our kids back in the classroom by then.” What’s your response to that?
I know that when it comes to schools, any opportunity to cause further division is what the mayor has contributed to. And it’s unfortunate because we need to be clear about where we are in this process. What she’s talking about as far as reopening schools, that is what we’re working on every single day. The fact that people are pointing to “We don’t have a plan”—that’s completely false.
I read that you said, “They are learning more about their families and their culture spending more time with each other. They’re just having different learning experiences than the ones we currently measure. And the loss is a comparison to a time when we were in a different space.” Do you want to expand on that?
I do, because that’s directly connected to work that I’ve done in my own classroom. I understand that distance learning is not at all where we want to be. I think everybody can agree with that. The work that I do in my own classroom directly connects with family involvement. When I was a teacher, I visited every single student’s home. We collaborated, we worked together, we brought in each other’s cultures in this work, because I have the understanding that part of a student’s growth is the incorporation of their broader outside community. And that includes their family. So what I was trying to point to was this opportunity that we have right now, that students are learning more about their own cultures, spending time with their families, but it’s not to diminish that it’s during a time where there’s a lot of struggle. And it’s also to show that the school district has provided so many resources to really contribute to the parent-as-teacher model, so that they’re not feeling like they’re alone during this time. So that’s why, in a broader sense, our biggest priority is reopening schools and distance learning, because we have the understanding that not everybody wants to go back to in-person learning. And so we need to hold the learning that’s happening at home just as much as we’re holding the learning that’s happening in our school places.
Holding?!
What do you mean by holding?
Holding is supporting, providing resources, professional development for our families, sending home materials, hands-on kits. When this all started, part of my work had been in actual workshops for our families to navigate the platform.
Later in the interview, López uses the word "holding" in this idiomatic way once again: "Some of the things that we’re challenging right now have been worked on for years with boards prior—we’re just holding it, and it’s our time to acknowledge it and make sure that we see it through."
Have you ever noticed this usage? It seemed completely strange to me, and the New Yorker interviewer manifested confusion. I looked it up in Urban Dictionary, but there was no definition that fit. "Holding" does have an entry, but only in the sense of possessing drugs (or money).
पोस्ट्स
१६४ टिप्पण्या:
The Dems in SF are crazy; my brother is one of them. Thankfully, no children.
It means something like cradle or nurture.
In this context it seems to be a synonym for "sustain"
They're not fucking up the education of children; they're fortifying it.
Should never be allowed near a school.
When I was a teacher, I visited every single student’s home
Is that normal for a teacher to visit "every student home"? Anyone heard of this before? I never have.
That sounds unusual to me. Perhaps even improper. Certainly a bit creepy.
John Henry
The charitable view is that she's got a brain tumor or something along those lines.
López attended California State University, Dominguez Hills, and majored in Liberal Studies and Women’s Studies while working 3 part-time jobs. From there, she went on to receive her Masters of Education at University of California, Los Angeles on a full ride, through the Stone Scholar fellowship.
Upon graduating in 2016, she moved to San Francisco and became a teacher at Leonard Flynn Elementary School in the Mission District, where she taught fourth- and fifth-grade Spanish Immersion. She immediately got involved by signing up to be a union building representative at her school for United Educators of San Francisco, joining the School Site Council, becoming a mentor for the district’s Mentoring for Success program, and becoming the school's Arts Coordinator.
Outside of the classroom, López is a core organizer at Teachers 4 Social Justice. She also volunteers as a teacher at San Quentin State Prison with the Academic Peer Education Project, where peer educators who have earned their associate degrees design curriculum and teach college prep classes for men preparing for the GED.
At 28, López is the youngest woman ever elected to office in San Francisco and the youngest school board member elected to the San Francisco Board of Education. She is also the first bilingual educator ever elected and the first Latina in over 20 years, and the first ever to take the oath in Spanish when she was sworn into office in January of 2019.
Fun Facts
López is a huge baseball fan and played softball in high school. She was MVP and was on the all-star team for her school where she hit 11 home runs. All while refusing to slide into any base because (another fun fact) she is a VERY fast runner.
She has been to 20 out of the 30 Major League Baseball stadiums and plans to visit stadiums in Mexico and other countries around the world.
She has been to 36 of the 50 United States and has primarily visited them using the country’s extensive highway systems.
Source:
https://www.sfusd.edu/about/board-of-education/board-president-gabriela-lopez
Holding it is what someone does instead of going to the bathroom.
Why would teachers ever want the schools to open again?
They get to teach from the comfort of home, and don't have to deal with those pesky kids in-person.
Even when schools open I expect schedules to be modified to let them be at. home as much as possible, so that the children can 'hold' onto that home learning of culture and exasperated parents.
When the kids are in a classroom, low-paid monitors can watch them like prison guards as the teacher prattles on from a screen.
The evergreen Johnny Rotten line applies: Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
I am Laslo.
just as much as we’re holding the learning that’s happening in our school places.
pretty sure that the phrase should be:
"just as much as we’re holding up the learning that’s happening in our school places."
they just forgot the 'up'
The fun really starts when they argue about the new names for the 44 schools previously named after white people. I'm seeing Eldridge Cleaver Elementary. Huey Newton High. George Floyd Middle. I think Barry Bonds is trying to rehabilitate his image. . .
Oh, and forget the kids - can't have a revolution without some inconvenience.
I had a friend who started as a social worker in a large (not nearly as large as SF) prior to starting work with us. She had to visit some of her families at 1 or 2 in the morning and still be at work her regular hours. She lasted less than 8 months.
No, I don't believe the individual visited EVERY child in her classroom.
I'm left wondering how the kids will learn math, reading and science. Algebra, sentence diagramming and Boyle's law don't seem to be areas of emphasis.
I cannot begin to imagine how impervious to criticism I would have been had I been elected president of the School Board that employed me in 1981 at the age of 28. My history was as much like hers as a southern Anglo male could be at that time.
Somebody's had a lot of positive feedback. Somebody's got a world to save.
If you're in the way of that, be warned. Even if you're Abe Lincoln.
What's he done lately, after all?
I get to talking like that when I don't know what to say but feel I have to say something. Like now. Words just pour out kind of like spilling alphabits onto the kitchen counter.
My wife occasionally visited her students at their homes. Sometimes I drove if it was to a ranching or farming family.
"Are you guys holding?"
They've got the big portrait of Principal Poop that used to hang in the Boys Supreme Court at Moore Science. (Those eyes. Weird!)...
Hi-ya kiddos.
Shoes for industry compadre.
Yeah, sure: Are you guys holding?
Oh, gosh, no. The means of production are held by all the people.
No, man. Got any uppers?
Uppers. No, there are no classes in our society. (Or in our high school.)
Come on, baby, you can tell me. Got any pot?
Oh, not yet. But soon heavy industry will make it possible for all the people to have everything it desires in a free market place.
Oh, Daddio, you guys are so crazy.
Gosh, you really convinced him we are OK, Comrade... I mean, Porgie.
At 28 she makes as much sense as AOC. But Ms. Lopez has perfected the art of bafflegab.
I also suspect there's at least a trace of Huey P. Long in her speech patterns. The Old Kingfish could say entirely different things about the same subject at opposite ends of the state--on the same day. It was High Cockalorum in North Louisiana, and then Low Cockahirum in New Orleans--but it was all bafflegab. Sort of like what we're getting from Shufflin Senescent Joe re "I have a plan and Trump has no plan" in October, and then in after getting sworn in fesses up that he doesn't have a plan.
Nothing marks a person with the stamp of mediocrity and tediousness like a stint in ed school.
The disease in our country starts with the school boards in every city, every state in this country. I guess we all got busy in our lives and just assumed, forever, that school boards were filled with people concerned with the quality of education of our children. We handed off the entire education system to these people in good faith. These people turned out to be activists with a cause. And they engulfed school boards at the same time like-minded teachers were coming out of the universities eager to share their new thinking and activist goals.
Thirty to forty years later, here we are. The head of the SF board of education sees her goal has helping kids understand their family better, their family culture better, while dismantling the culture of the country they are part of. For generations this country has taken in immigrants. Forever. From the beginning. We're all from immigrants. But we knew our cultures. And all of our different cultures worked to learn- in school- about the greater country we were all trying to become a part of, to blend into. So that we could all proudly call ourselves Americans.
No more. That thing that is American is now taught to be evil, racist, to be ripped up, removed, thrown away, forgotten. What is primary among the teachers and school board members is to teach separate everyone by their tribe, keep them there and focus them on the evil that holds them back. That evil being America and white people. That is what's being 'held' to be used as needed.
Good luck with that. I think I need to peruse my own local school board and think about my own involvement.
López uses the word "holding" in this idiomatic way once again:
Did you mean "idiosyncratic"?
London Breed?
Technically it's correct. They have a plan. A plan to never go to in-person instruction ever again.
I wonder what was the percentage turnout for the school board elections?
Is that normal for a teacher to visit "every student home"?
My grandfather was hired to teach in a one-room school in Texas during the 1890's. He spent two weeks on horseback visiting all the students' families. And he didn't just drop in, he spent the night. Different times, folks had a lot more human interaction back then.
Readin', Writin', 'Rithmatic. Screw the rest of this ideologue's indoctrination.
---Somebody's got a world to save.
Yet doesn't she sound like Gorbachev II? Stuck in the contradictions, and looking for some way out.
They hate kids and want them to commit suicide. (Is that how we play this game??)
When will they be holding a competency hearing?
Big Sister and the Holding Company.
They should rename San Francisco to Black Lives Matter City.
"Is that normal for a teacher to visit "every student home"?"
Lots of admins have been pushing that, esp since covid, to look busy and impress the parents. Admins, the ones who taught a couple years and couldn't stand it.
Teaching is a shitty job.
Twisted Sister, more like it.
Places that need to be renamed:
Intercourse, Pennsylvania
Blue Ball, Pennsylvania
French Lick, Indiana
Bloody Dick Creek, Montana
Whorehouse Meadow (Oregon)
Etc.
AMDG said...
"I wonder what was the percentage turnout for the school board elections?"
Around 100% for the teachers and their families, 2% for everyone else.
"Words just pour out kind of like spilling alphabits onto the kitchen counter."
It's the buckshot school of oratory – throw as many words as possible in the general direction of the target. Often found in people with poor language skills who are trying to sound authoritative.
I haven't seen a list of replacement names, have you?
The smart money's bet is that the list will be heavily Negroidal.
That use of "holding" seems to come from "holding up," not in the sense of robbing or delaying but supporting (Atlas holding up the world) and valuing (holding/lifting up for approbation). There is a flavor of that in "We hold these truths..."
Having spent 8 years of my career advising school districts across the state, I can tell you Lopez is not far from the norm on how these people communicate. I've sat around conference tables packed with six-figure administrators and listened to a steady stream of this kind of projectile word vomit.
And the bloated, obfuscating language went into overdrive whenever they had to deal with the legislature or the public.
And they're the ones teaching our kids to speak.
“Nothing marks a person with the stamp of mediocrity and tediousness like a stint in ed school.”
If I went to Ed school I would concentrate in methods and practice of Union intimidation.
California breeds it. Ever listen to Gavin Newsom? It’s an explosion of word salad with a heavy dressing of the product he puts in his hair.
- Krumhorn
I understand that you can hold education in the home, but I don't understand why taxpayers should give money to school boards to hold, while they recommend just holding learning in the homes. How about not holding onto the brick and mortar school, instead of just renaming them?
I too, call BS on her claim to have visited every student’s home.
There are a lot of teachers out there that want to go back- few unions do, though. In addition to academic classes, kids need to be going to play rehearsal, hockey practice, etc. What’s happening to our kids is a scandal. I’m glad I retired after last year, do to the covid madness that has lessened our grip on reality.
I've sat around conference tables packed with six-figure administrators and listened to a steady stream of this kind of projectile word vomit.
I attended similar meetings myself as did others in my department. We used to pick out a specific word and count how many times it was used as a way of keeping our attention.
Nice to see my confusion with understanding American speaking English has spread to higher academic level
"See, you know how to TAKE a reservation. You just don't know how to HOLD a reservation".
Link
They are still fleshing out the narrative, that juggling both in person school learning and at home virtual learning can be essentially the same thing.
The power to switch at will, in the future, is too seductive to give up.
It's like inventing/discovering a new material at the lab, for which the only thing certain, is that nobody has thought of a use for... yet.
Hold it. Don't throw that out.
About holding: I have heard this used in a pedagogical context that is similar but not quite identical to the usage here. In the classroom, a teacher has to "hold" or pull the class together--almost with an embrace of psychic energy. This means the teacher has to hold or pull herself together too. I recognize this sounds kind of touchy-feely, but I have seen an experienced teacher walk into a room of cheerfully careening kindergartners, stand completely still with her hands folded in front of her, say the word "Children" in a quietly firm voice, and have them all slow to a stop around her in less than a minute. I was in awe.
I'm a college professor and have students who have mostly learned how to behave with basic social decorum in class, but I am quite conscious of how my outward demeanor and attention "holds" the class together in a certain way.
About teachers visiting students at home: My children went to Waldorf nursery/kindergartens. Each new teacher visited us once in the summer to see our children in their most familiar environment. I still remember my 3 year old son holding his new teacher's hand as he gave her a tour of our neighborhood without me.
I think it's a great idea, but very time-consuming. To do it, teachers have to be pretty dedicated, have free time, and (I hope) get reimbursed for gas.
The only white people left in the city are either super rich, work in tech and make big bucks, or both.
They all send their kids (if they have any) to private school.
Asian students hardest hit...but none of them have áccents in their names, so fuck 'em.
There is a flavor of that in "We hold these truths..."
.......
Is hold = accept, apply and act on!?
Question---What does "bilingual" mean in California?
Answer---Can't speak English.
Thomas Sowell
AMDG said...I wonder what was the percentage turnout for the school board elections?
I do not know about most states, but in Illinois School Board elections are in the Spring and turnout is usually 10-15%. It is ripe for dedicated resident agitators to vote in their favorite candidates. In smaller districts the politicking can be really intense because 10 votes in one direction can make all the difference.
"Is that normal for a teacher to visit "every student home"?"
I only had one teacher visit my home. My father was hungover, and I suspect answered the door in his underwear. Fortunately, I wasn't home at the time.
I don't think that anything is clearer than that we need a wall of separation between schools and the government.
Thank you Scott Walker for Act 10.
"Holding is supporting..." She says that. But why not say supporting? I tried to find an educational theory focused on "holding" but could not. (I did find this phrase; "Teaching and Learning: Lost in a Buzzword Wasteland") In English the main meaning of "holding" actually diverges from "hold." "We hold these truths to be self-evident" can't turn into "we were holding these truths to be self-evident" although if a ship was sinking you could say "The captain said 'Hold on to the life boat sides' and we were holding on."
As far as her theories go, it seems to me that she might as well say that being a drop-out or a truant is "[an] opportunity ... [they] are learning more about their own cultures, spending time with their families." But we know that drop-out and truants do badly in later life because they don't have the skills they need. And the same will happen to these students when their teachers are allowed to be drop-outs and truants.
In big cities the worst thing a school district can do is to shut down a school in a minority neighborhood. Nothing brings more protest because of the associated jobs, janitors, etc, the chance for smart local kids to become teachers, and for having someplace in the locality where money is spent and is relatively save and creates some zone of secure police presence. Also kids get to eat without parents having to spend their welfare money on food for them. I wonder how these people feel now that they have lost the stability of having these little islands of security and capital infusion in their areas. Schools are not really for education, but for adults.
He's Got The Whole World In His Hands ….
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= (S)He's holding The Whole Education system In (S)His Hands
It could be a fortification of "it takes a village".
"It takes a village" was roundly rejected.
Edubabble
And look up "faculty meeting bingo" It's real!
Teachers unions are like the old mayor of East St. Louis, who said What’s the use of having a library if you spend all the money on books?
How many years back would you have to go for this conversation to be viewed as most certainly wicked satire?
Jersey Fled said...
London Breed?
Sounds like something you'd find in the frozen meat section of the supermarket, doesn't it?
The true definition of "Holding"; whatever it takes to keep Gabriela López drawing a paycheck for the next 40 years.
I assume she meant it in the way of putting on an event, that the School Board is holding virtual classes as well as planning to hold in person classes sometime somehow. It's also an indication of imperialist domination, patriarchal condescension and plain old class snobbery, using a dictionary to question someone else's use of the oppressors' language. You are denying Lopez her own experience, her own space.
It did make me laugh, though, the idea that it's okay all these kids are at home because it means they're learning more about their own culture, getting closer to their families. Laugh through the tears I mean. I don't know how she says any of that with a straight face. I'd like to say well, the voters got what they asked for, good and hard and all that, except I don't think they did. I can't imagine any parent truly wants this.
PS 192, PS 193, PS 194, PS 195, PS 196, well you get the idea
<I guess we all got busy in our lives and just assumed, forever, that school boards were filled with people concerned with the quality of education of our children. We handed off the entire education system to these people in good faith. These people turned out to be activists with a cause. And they engulfed school boards at the same time like-minded teachers were coming out of the universities eager to share their new thinking and activist goals...I think I need to peruse my own local school board and think about my own involvement.
Excellent points. Now is not the time for people to hide their opinions in silent fear. Now is the time to be vocal. Fuck what the media propagandists say; we still have free speech as long as we are brave enough to take advantage of it. If you think the election was fraudulent, say so.* No topic shoud be off limits in a free society.
Take control away from these pompous, silly people. Start local, like with the school boards, and get involved. I bet there are more people in this country tired of leftist horseshit than not. Enough to set up a parallel economy. We must make our presence known.
Use your voice while you still have one.
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* When I ask my Democrat voting relatives if Trump had been elected the way Biden was-- with vote counting resumed in the middle of the night after observers were sent home-- would they accept the result, they look away and go silent.
@unknown 9:30 a.m.: I thought of Waldorf School teachers as I read your post. They are the masters of this art of bringing the class to attention by just standing a certain way. (I shouldn't say "just" . . .) Friends of mine who are Waldorf teachers taught me about this when I started out as a law prof. You can experiment with it and see how different postures affect the result. (I shouldn't say "just" because its not just how you hold your hands or arms for that minute. It's like a Jedi thing.)
I think this use of "holding" means something like, "sponsoring, putting on" as in "the church is holding a lutefisk dinner that weekend." She seems to see learning as just the delivery of stuff, either by the teachers online or by the parents; no particular skills and no particular outcomes involved.
We should re-name Blockbuster Video too, while we're at it. That name always made me uncomfortable.
I'm feel like busting blocks was the kind of work the white masters made their slaves do. I seriously doubt white people busted any blocks themselves.
I'm guessing that holding is related to holding space, which is a new age phrase meaning a "conscious act of being present, open, allowing, and protective of what another needs in each moment" according to chopra.com.
As for visiting every student, she probably did it via Zoom. Need to hold that social distancing.
Get real. "Hold" hasn't taken on a new, education-specific meaning. She's just misusing it because she can't find the right word.
Oh, and if education now is "the incorporation of their broader outside community[, a]nd that includes their family" -- why do we need school and teachers for that?
This is evil. Thank G-d my only child is 37.
"The fun really starts when they argue about the new names for the 44 schools previously named after white people. I'm seeing Eldridge Cleaver Elementary. Huey Newton High. George Floyd Middle. I think Barry Bonds is trying to rehabilitate his image. . ."
I'm sure we can do better. I'll be eternally disappointed if Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho doesn't get a school named for him.
I’m no Spanish expert, but I suspect that Ms. Lopez’s unusual use of “hold” is derived from Spanish. Google Translate converts “hold” to “sostener,” but could alternatively could be translated to “mantener.” Mantener means maintain,keep, hold, sustain, support.
"I've sat around conference tables packed with six-figure administrators and listened to a steady stream of this kind of projectile word vomit."
And it's nothing new. I was a kid in the 1960's, and I remember noticing teachers and principals and counselors spoke and wrote differently than "regular people". The word that really jumped out at me then was "enrichment".
Hogg is going to call his product Our Pillow.
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Anyone from the 70s remember what it meant to ask, "You holding?"
Michael @ 10:59 wins this thread for now ;-)
"When I was a teacher, I visited every single student’s home"
I will take "Obvious Lies That I Tell To Try To Make Myself Look Good" for $2000, Alex.
The art of climbing the greasy union pole, of being the right shade at the right time, and pretending to have taught for years while dispensing nuggets of wisdom are how to get ahead.
There’s probably cutthroat competition for some $400K top spot.
‘Check out who’s hosting the pre-seminar seminar Teachers Federation All-City Learning Arts Symposium.’
‘Tell me it’s not her’
‘They’re doing it at the Hilton this year. She’s changed the rules so all the module approval goes through City Hall.
‘....that BITCH’
Holding is supporting, providing resources, professional development for our families, sending home materials, hands-on kits. When this all started, part of my work had been in actual workshops for our families to navigate the platform.
Whats the goal? What is the goal of public education in general? What is the mission statement? Just take what the teacher says at face value. The stated goal is NOT getting all to read and cypher at grade level.
This is what happens when govt tells you to "listen to the science"= >1/2 the class cant read at grade level. Because the teacher is busy "providing professional development for families"
‘....A child of California, Ms. Lopez ancestors worked with Cesar Chavez to pick cotton in the San Fernando Valley, creating new language modules to express gender identity pronouns in the People’s Mines. Her Grandfather witnessed the White Man’s public execution of Zorro.’
Can that be right?
---and if education now is "the incorporation of their broader outside community[, a]nd that includes their family" -- why do we need school and teachers for that? [Openidname]
We don't need the preexisting public school system for that, you're right. That's what she means, too, is how I read this.
"the school district has provided so many resources to really contribute to the parent-as-teacher model,"
Her district will facilitate learning executed by others in other sites. Home schooling, obviously. Small-group "schools" run by parents or their tutor designees. Maybe this stretches even to charter schools where families are often somewhat more involved than they are in conventional public schooling.
She is being forced by circumstances and maybe by some of her own sympathies into a Gorbachev sea-change for her system. A po-mo public school system.
She was only the third teacher hired at her school with measurements of 34-36-38. She was only the fifth teacher hired who took a vacation to New Orleans. She was only the ninth teacher hired who was interested in Greco-Roman wrestling. And the only female cis-hispanic woman's studies major who could speak gobbly-gook in three languages, shattering the glass ceiling.
Ayn Rand > Quotes > Quotable Quote
“I am not brave enough to be a coward," she said. "I see the consequences too clearly”
― Ayn Rand
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as a wiselady said long ago - did anybody listem?
professora has not read much by this wiselady - ??!!
“The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.”
― Ayn Rand
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freedom to speak is the primary step in defending individual rights
and denying it is the first step in abolishing (canceling) the individual
Isn't "stakeholders" now referring people receiving some kind of government assistance?
spit balling here... killing time before the big game.
It's false that they don't have a plan, but she cannot say in plain English what the plan is.
Uh huh.
You're late. Already halftime. Indiana by 2 over Iowa. Garza on the bench for 12 minutes
Maybe holding is Hispanic English for curating.
“A child of California, Ms. Lopez ancestors worked with Cesar Chavez to pick cotton in the San Fernando Valley, creating new language modules to express gender identity pronouns in the People’s Mines. Her Grandfather witnessed the White Man’s public execution of Zorro.’”
Zorro, Don Diego de la Vega was pure blooded Spanish, so he was a white man, in the fiction of 1900. He was supposed to be modeled on the horse thief Joaquin Murrieta Carrillo who was killed by “The California Rangers” in 1853. So if Joaquin is “Zorro”, and this person’s grandfather saw the killing when he was one year old and sired the person’s father when he was 90 years old, the story could be true.
I am interested in the “People’s Mines” of California. Are they a part of the correctional system?
My earliest memory of San Francisco was being taken up north on a short family vacation in the early '60's. We were taking a ride on one of those little cable cars when "boom!" We heard a loud bang and the ride stopped. We looked and saw a drunk get up and stagger off. The driver explained that the drunk had walked right into the cable car. Our driver proceeded with no concern for this man's potential injuries.
That's when I learned of San Francisco's reputation as a bar town, a town of heavy drinkers. I suspect this has been the case ever since the Gold Rush.
"The Supreme Court's holding" might have less to do with their public decisions and more to do with what they keep in their gowns and what are smoking in their chambers.
"London Breed" is quite a name. It sounds like some cosmetic or toiletry article or fashion accessory line named to capitalize on the idea that the British are more sophisticated and stylish, as in "Rimmel London: Join the London Breed."
It also makes me think of "London Broil," an old cafeteria staple.
Mmmm ... I could really go for some right now ...
"It seemed completely strange to me"
Sure, even by prog standards it's strange, but it's also not strange--any BS will do.
"and the New Yorker interviewer manifested confusion."
Confusion at the obfuscation. But why? Progs shovel BS, and other progs will let them get away with, being confused and all.
"Holding" is just a way of saying, FU kids and parents and city, we'll do what we damn well please, and whatcha gonna do about it?
It zeems to me that under this type of "holding" the parents/guardians of these children are doing the teaching while the actual teachers supervise, like a supermarket employee overseeing the self-checkout lanes.
If there is any good that might come from the public school teachers refusing to reopen the schools, perhaps it will be to instill in kids a much-needed and substantial distrust of the entire thought-control education/indoctrination system.
I agree with Michael that “holding up” as in supporting something was the intended expression. Within the church community I am familiar with, it is common to speak of holding someone up in prayer. I’m not sure how widespread this usage is within the church at large, but I’d guess is most common in charismatic or pentecostal denominations. Often, such idiomatic language is derived from specific events or passages in the Bible. In the case of “holding up”, it’s likely a reference to the story of Aaron and Hur holding up Moses’ arms as he held his staff over his head in the middle of a battle. As long as Moses held the staff aloft, the Israelites were successful in battle, but when he let his arms down, their enemy prevailed. So Aaron and Hur supported him when his strength failed. Thus, to hold up is to come alongside and support someone in a difficult task.
Superintendent Patton:
I don't want any messages saying, 'I'm holding their education.' We're not holding a goddamned thing. We're teaching constantly and we're not interested in holding anything except the balls of the ignorant. We're going to hold him by his balls and we're going to kick him in the ass; twist his balls and teach the living quadratic equation into him all the time. Our plan of operation is to teach and keep on teaching. We're going to go through the ignorant like money through the union's coffers.
There will be some complaints that we're pushing our teachers too hard. I don't give a damn about such complaints. I believe that a gigabyte of Zoom will save a gallon of poor test scores. The harder we push, the more illiterates we remove. The more illiterates we remove, the fewer of our teachers will be robbed on the streets. Pushing harder means fewer muggings. I want you all to remember that. My teachers don't surrender. I don't want to hear of any teacher under my command being found offline unless she is on an authorized break. Even if you are on an authorized break, you can still teach. That's not just bullshit either. I want men like the Assistant Principal in the Tenderloin who, with a unregistered gun found on his student, swept aside the gun with his hand, jerked his laptop out of his backpack with the other and taught the hell out of a Rudyard Kipling poem with the laptop. Then he properly disposed of the gun and he taught another student a lesson she's never forgotten. All this time the teacher had no whiteboard or markers. That's a teacher for you!
Hold a meeting. Hold a convention. Hold a seminar. Hold classes.
I can see where she got the idea, and it doesn't seem so strange.
If you hear a lot of talk about where classes are being held and about holding classes at home and your native language isn't English, you might get confused and sucked into a vortex ... or a "holding" pattern.
"Upon graduating in 2016, she moved to San Francisco and became a teacher at Leonard Flynn Elementary School in the Mission District, where she taught fourth- and fifth-grade Spanish Immersion."
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At 28, López is the youngest woman ever elected to office in San Francisco and the youngest school board member elected to the San Francisco Board of Education. She is also the first bilingual educator ever elected and the first Latina in over 20 years, and the first ever to take the oath in Spanish when she was sworn into office in January of 2019.
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Hmmm. How many there are reading English at grade level?
"the school district has provided so many resources to really contribute to the parent-as-teacher model, so that they’re not feeling like they’re alone during this time. So that’s why, in a broader sense, our biggest priority is reopening schools and distance learning"
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? So..the "distance learning" still leaves parents holding the bag. I mean, are parents properly invested in critical race theory and revisionist history to get err done..even with help?
Oh hey..how many months ago were we hearing Redfern say schools are not a covid hotbed?
It seems we keep..err..circling back..to this, yet schools stay closed. Not in Florida though..shhhhh. Raaacist..or something.
About those decreases in reports of child abuse with increase in severe injures at ERs?
Pffft. Getting to knowwww you..
Her other fave word is "uplift"..
RoseAnne said...
I've sat around conference tables packed with six-figure administrators and listened to a steady stream of this kind of projectile word vomit.
I attended similar meetings myself as did others in my department. We used to pick out a specific word and count how many times it was used as a way of keeping our attention.
2/7/21, 9:29 AM
Is "robust" a contender?
“ we’re holding the learning that’s happening” versus “the Supreme Court’s holding...”
The first one has “holding” as a participle. The second is a gerund.
But you could say: The Court was holding something and make it a participle. You could say our holding of the learning and make it a gerund.
The holding of a court is the familiar use of hold to mean express the opinion. Lopez isn’t talking about taking a position but being supportive as if she’s holding the learning in her arms. She’s referring to other people deciding something and referring to herself as some combination of responsible and not responsible. Makes me think of a holding pattern, but I don’t think that’s the intended reference.
John henry said...
When I was a teacher, I visited every single student’s home
Is that normal for a teacher to visit "every student home"? Anyone heard of this before? I never have.
That sounds unusual to me. Perhaps even improper. Certainly a bit creepy.
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If she showed up at *my* door I would have asked her if she had a warrant.
Why? Because she might look around, see a MAGA hat, and decide that someone from Child Protective Services should pay me a call to take away my kids
Lopez is holding a snipe hunt and the kids are left holding the bag.
Blogger Lurker21 said...
“Hold a meeting. Hold a convention. Hold a seminar. Hold classes. I can see where she got the idea, and it doesn't seem so strange.”
But she gives a different definition when asked and she goes on to say “ "Some of the things that we’re challenging right now have been worked on for years with boards prior—we’re just holding it, and it’s our time to acknowledge it .”
There it means something like following. It’s not active like holding a meeting.
English as a second language. Someone above pointed out that she was probably using "hold" in the Spanish sense of maintain or sustain. Could be. Or maybe it's pedagogical jargon peculiar to millennials in San Francisco or maybe she's just winging it....Here's an example of obvious bullshit: "...part of a student's growth is their incorporation of their broader outside community. And that includes their family."....Your family is not the broader outside community. My own challenge in life has been trying to unlearn the lessons learned at home.
I went to Catholic schools. The amount of crap I learned there pales in comparison to the crap I learned at home....I'm not deracinated. I'm American.
You can't enforce Spanish immersion without pop-up visits at homes.
"Holaaaaaa!"
Whorehouse Meadow, in the glorious Steens Mountains of Harney county, Oregon, was, in fact, renamed "Naughty Girl Meadow" by the BLM in the '60s (and you thought PC speech was a recent thing?). After an outcry, the former name, honoring enterprising young women from the Vale, Oregon area who set up camp there and comforted the 19th century Basque sheepherders, was restored on some maps.
@ AZ Bob: you'd be right. SF is probably one of the last places in the US where drinking at a work lunch is the norm.
There is a drinking establishment for every six people in this town. Of course that's changed in the last year or so, as many of those places will likely never return. But those were mainly old-timer bars, where a beer and a shot was pretty much the only thing offered. They catered mostly to what's left of a functioning waterfront industrial area.
Surprisingly antagonistic questioning from Isaac Chotiner at the New Yorker.
Seems to me that by the time he got around to the Revere and Lincoln issues he was ready to start his questions with, "Gabriela, you ignorant slut."
In SF, whenever I can't understand what these 'officials' are saying, I realize it's just bullshit to mask their inadequacies.
"Upon graduating in 2016, she moved to San Francisco and became a teacher at Leonard Flynn Elementary School in the Mission District, where she taught fourth- and fifth-grade Spanish Immersion."
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Need to change that name, triggers painful, fear inducing thoughts of infamous Trump supporter General Flynn..
Clark mentioned Waldorf school teachers. We sent our children to a Waldorf school for a couple of years, and one aspect of it that stood out is that the teachers do visit each student's home. Home visits were considered to be an important feature of the learning experience. For one thing, it helps the teacher to understand the student's life in a deeper way. In some churches, the minister will make an effort over the course of a year to visit each member, likely for the same reason.
I taught school in the Bronx in the 1980s, and visited one child's home. I probably learned more about my students by that one visit than any other thing I did.
My students, when they wanted to borrow a pen or something like that, would say "Can I hold your pen." That strange usage of Hold may be related to what is going on here, but I cannot make the relation.
This is a truly bizarre interview, but the visiting the homes of students is not bizarre.
Recommend Richard Mitchell's two books, The Graves of Academe and Less Than Words Can Say (especially the latter)
for insight on how our language is degrading to the point that nothing means anything. That's what I hear in this
interview. You could spend all day with this person asking what they mean by each and every word and you'd still never
understand what they are trying to say, because they don't know either.
DUE to the covid madness... Can I blame autocorrect?
She’s using hold in a sense similar to “we hold these truths to be self evident”: “to have in mind.”
Mayor London Breed is a model of sanity -- by San Francisco standards. Don't mock her.
Flynn Elementary has very low reading/math scores for Hispanic and, especially, Black students: https://www.greatschools.org/california/san-francisco/6366-Flynn-Leonard-R.-Elementary-School/#Race_ethnicity*Test_scores
Most children, especially those whose parents are not well educated, don't learn much math at home. (Flynn's non-white students aren't learning much in school either, admittedly.)
Joanne,
thoughts on Spanish immersion in 4th grade in that scenario?
Grade school never visited, but did call home to suggest having kids wait outside in the rain until parents got home from work might be uncomfortable.
Unfortunately, step father answered phone and told her to mind her own fucking business.
Similar response when a principle called to inquire about welts on brothers back from a whipping.
That use of holding is just short for upholding.
She was definitely holding drugs at some point, though she seems to have ingested them shortly before the interview.
She's a busy beaver with an impressive resume. She understands that in this country, if you want to be effective you have to show up.
Holding as in "holding pattern" is a status quo that persists during an unsafe or unsupportable period. It's just a matter of time before the fuel, the food, the energy, the psychological stress progresses and we crash.
Mayor London Breed is a model of sanity -- by San Francisco standards
San Francisco, Atlanta, etc. seem to progress with a holding pattern... policy of Every Child Left Behind.
"I'm feel like busting blocks was the kind of work the white masters made their slaves do. I seriously doubt white people busted any blocks themselves."
"Busting blocks" meant being the first black person to move into a white neighborhood. The realtor who sponsored the blockbuster could then purchase the remaining houses cheap, as the whites fled. Then sell them to blacks, after which they could be redlined. So, blockbusting was work it was impossible for white people to do.
Ever shifting idiosyncratic language is a TACTIC. It’s a way to separate those who went to the right schools and took the right course from the chaff (that’s you).
She was definitely holding drugs at some point, though she seems to have ingested them shortly before the interview.
Somewhere over the Rainbow? Well, there is no evidence that it forces a progressive condition, other than severe mental and developmental dislocations that occur when Puff assumes control. Harris of #MeToo #HerToo #SheProgressed, too.
Hold is one of those English verbs that has a dozen definitions. Those who can’t think beyond the first three are lacking either imagination or a decent dictionary.
Blogger Howard said...
She's a busy beaver with an impressive resume. She understands that in this country, if you want to be effective you have to show up.
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..with the correct racial status and SJW bonafides.
The fact that people are pointing to “We don’t have a plan”—that’s completely false.
So why wasn't the follow-on question: "So, what is the plan?"
All's quite at the Twilight Fringe. A veritable climate stasis.
Ken B said...
Ever shifting idiosyncratic language is a TACTIC. It’s a way to separate those who went to the right schools and took the right course from the chaff (that’s you).
2/7/21, 3:04 PM
Earnest Prole said...
Hold is one of those English verbs that has a dozen definitions. Those who can’t think beyond the first three are lacking either imagination or a decent dictionary.
2/7/21, 3:10 PM
The time is ripe for ditching the founders name off school property but the politics needed more time, hence the “holding”.
When I hear "hold" or "holding" in an educational context, I think immediately of the word in YESHIVISH, the pigeon/creole dialect of English spoken in Yeshivot. There, the term is used as "where are you HOLDING?" referring to the place in the Gemara that the student is currently comfortable "saying over" to the Rebbe (who is asking).
In this sense, "holding," or "to hold," really refers to the verb synonym "to grasp." In use, where the student "holds" is not where they are currently learning, it is where they have been in the past that they are comfortable reciting (i.e., parroting) back an assignment from the past. Where they are currently "holding" is in fact where they are still learning. It took many embarrassing moments to understand the difference.
In secular education, I remember that the term "hold" was used most frequently when a teacher informed the parents that the school was going to "hold back" the student because of lack of progress in the curriculum.
To GRASP a lesson, concept, or trope is a better expression of English than to HOLD in the sense of our beloved Educator. Her sense is further the delayed infancy of our youthful learners who need to become independent learners. Of course this is an anathema to such ilk.
As for the use "hold" I protest cultural appropriation.
Just saying.
As I noted, walter, hold was used in this sense in the Declaration of Independence. If you find that idiosyncratic, school won’t help.
The San Francisco School System is led by a Mexicana who has yet to learn to speak English despite her elevation through several of California's famous colleges but then again she possesses great skill as a baseball player. So she is being led around by a strange-thinking school board that renames schools without any real reason. Paul Revere's name is being dropped because he lost a battle with the British at Penobscot Bay. I am quite surprised that these idiots even knew that Penobscot is the name of an "Indian" tribe.
But all this renaming of 44 schools is just to distract from the orders the Board is receiving from the teachers union on reopening any schools. In this regard, Gabriela López's idiomatic language (I like "idiotic" better) is perfect for life in San Francisco. Just watch where you step.
I'm sure that's where she's coming from, Prole.
---swept aside the gun with his hand, jerked his laptop out of his backpack with the other and taught the hell out of a Rudyard Kipling poem with the laptop. [Kevin]
The return of Rudyard Kipling! So overdue, but leave it to Superintendent Patton. Is he in Marin?
So..after assuring us that there is A Plan, when is it due to get kids back to their in-person indoctrination?
This entire interview was a total disgrace. The interviewer was relentless in one very limited way. However, he continually let her off the hook on the premise, which was to deny that this has anything to do with actual history or the teaching of history. It is a way to denigrate the people whose names were removed without any real concern to understand the history involved. In that way, it was a dismissal of history itself as a way of knowing. Whatever history shows, we know how to judge and condemn, period.
In particular, the issue with Lincoln is utterly infuriating. The bit about his treatment of the Indians centered on his decision to let MN go ahead with the execution of 38 Sioux who had participated in the slaughter of 500 white people. What is left out, aside from a lot else, is that Lincoln commuted the sentences of another 265 of the condemned Indians and saved their lives after sifting carefully through the trial transcripts, and he did so at political cost to himself, during a Civil War to end slavery when he was already on the ropes. The people on that school board collectively do not have a tenth of Lincoln's moral insight, understanding and sympathy for their fellow beings and courage as well. In fact, they are cowards bending to the fashion of the day, which had Lincoln done the same, he'd have had all 303 of those Indians hung.
Hold up-
Are we still opining on the various and proper usage of the word "hold"?
Oh, how fun!
boredom, boredom,...boredom-boredom
-Buzzcocks
boredom, boredom,...boredom-boredom
Following the departure of our first Orange-American President: Pro-Left, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, there is a demand for boring from Joe "Decaffeinated" Biden and Kamala "#MeToo #HerToo #SheProgressed" Harris.
on an earlier post professora emerita said:
(about fortifying 2020 election)
This is a long article, and understanding it, for me, involves figuring out why Time published it and understanding the possible bias of the author, Molly Ball.
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I am wondering if :
/figuring out why some outlet published X and understanding the possible bias of the author/
applies to this New Yorker attempt also?
Chotiner interviews the head of the San Francisco Board of Education, Gabriela López,
… Has Isaac Chotiner had "the conversation" [which has been edited for length and clarity,] with hizzoner and his governor in NY for his readers edification? …
So if the conversation, has been edited for length and clarity, where lies the blame?
---The people on that school board collectively do not have a tenth of Lincoln's moral insight, understanding and sympathy for their fellow beings and courage as well. [jon burack]
u r rite but u r wrong jon. They don't have a ten-thousandth of Lincoln's moral insight, understanding, or intelligence.
So how are they the elected leaders of a major city's school board? Do you vote on school board elections? Would you run for your school board? I hate the thought myself, but something's got to change.
"it was a dismissal of history itself as a way of knowing"
Right. And that was just one instance of prog idiocy.
But the sheer know-nothingness and idiocy of ruling progs make a point: that with all their obvious empty-headed nihilism, they still get to rule over us. The idiocy is a way of rubbing in the essential cruelty of prog hegemony.
Not really OT, because it's about wokeness, right? Amanda Gorman's Superbowl performance--words fail me.
There are many good names for these schools--
Josef Stalin
Ho Chi Minh
Vladimir Lenin
PAvel Morozof
Pol Pot
Gus Hall
Dimtri Yezhof
Deng Chou Ping
Angela Davis
Just remove the names from the schools. There won't be any educating going on there anymore.
Give them cell block numbers.
I'm used to hearing black vagrants saying "lemme hold your quarter" when asking for money.
School number One, Two... buckle my show. No, that won't work. Order implies privilege. Perhaps we can identify and label them by their GPS coordinates?
Woke and drowsy is a forward-looking legacy of diversity [dogma], not limited to racism.
I think we can all get behind the "O.J. Simpson School for Women and Girls", and a curriculum there that would include "Self Defense 101 - Knife Attacks", as well as the long overdue "Mao Zedong School of Economics - Farming Efficiencies of Scale".
It's time that our children begin holding these principles and garnering the benefits we have missed from those long-ignored perspectives.
Boy those guys in NY who just decided to start with PS #1 we’re on to something, weren’t they.
Prole
It’s pretty funny that you think your point refutes mine. You really just never think things through do you?
Iman said..."When will they be holding a competency hearing?"
Careful, comrade. "Competency" sounds awfully like "merit," and we know that merit is racist by definition, right?
"I'm used to hearing black vagrants saying "lemme hold your quarter" when asking for money."
My name is Joe, I live in a shelter, I am raising funds for food and clothing, pray for me, hepps a man gitt hiself summin to eat.
Holding. The NFL needs to figure out what that is and what it isn't. Horrifically bad calls tonight. :(
Holding, Althouse predicting the biggest factor in the Super Bowl.
It’s pretty funny that you think your point refutes mine. You really just never think things through do you?
Your point is that people sometimes use esoteric language as class wedge. My point is that the word hold was used here in the same sense it was used in the Declaration of Independence, which anyone with an American high-school education should be able to grasp.
So if “high school” means “right school” to you, I’m guilty as charged.
It means support and embrace.
But the real meaning is that it sounds jargony and fashionable in the way that a professional bureaucrat speaks. Similar to people who use cliches because they think it makes them sound smart. Of course, to our ears it sounds vapid.
Actually, this is very much a dictionary usage, if perhaps not a common one in this context. Per Bing's on-line dictionary :
8) arrange and take part in (a meeting or conversation).
The usage in this context would be "the teacher held a class on Harry Potter".
There are two things going on in this specific conversation that make the usage feel odd. First, the word being used in an administrative context (as if the administration is holding classes), which to me just seems like the normal administrative tendency to define administrative activities as part of the underlying activity they support. The second is that she chooses an odd object for her sentence - that they are "holding the learning". It's the use of the word learning as the object of the sentence that gives the phrase it's jargony feel.
Having read the entire back and forth in the New Yorker, it is quite clear that the SF School Board President is on the one hand, deceitful ("We have a plan to open schools"*) and on the other utterly uninterested in the opinions of those not subscribing to her radical world view ("We don't need historians"**).
In any case her idiosyncratic use of "hold" is there to signal to other members of her cult that she is one of them, which is why those upward in this comment page are unable to find other uses of it.
* "Our plan is to never reopen them."
** "We will make up lies about history and defend them to the death (of our enemies)."
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