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Understanding Trump as a standup comedian. A laugh track is revelatory.





Thanks to Guildofcannonballs in yesterday's Rose McGowan conversation.

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tim maguire म्हणाले...

It’s interesting with Trump how much you can accomplish by tweaking the delivery. This reminds me a bit of Sophisticated Trump from 2016.

Sorry, today is one of those days when Blogger can’t remember how embedded links work. #90’sTechnology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUGT30gGtiI

Sebastian म्हणाले...

"A laugh track is revelatory."

True. But anyone listening to him at his rallies would know that. Althouse herself gets credit for repeatedly showing how Trump's style works.

Mark Steyn explained it back in 2016::

"It's also hilarious. I've seen no end of really mediocre shows at the Flynn in the last quarter-century, and I would have to account this the best night's entertainment I've had there with the exception of the great jazz singer Dianne Reeves a few years back. He's way funnier than half the stand-up acts I've seen at the Juste pour rires comedy festival a couple of hours north in Montreal. And I can guarantee that he was funnier than any of the guys trying their hand at Trump Improv night at the Vermont Comedy Club a couple of blocks away. He has a natural comic timing.

To be sure, some of the gags can be a little - what's the word? - mean-spirited. The performance was interrupted by knots of protesters. "Throw 'em out!" barked Trump, after the first chants broke out. The second time it happened, he watched one of the security guys carefully picking up the heckler's coat. "Confiscate their coats," deadpanned Trump. "It's ten below zero outside." Third time it happened, he extended his coat riff: "We'll mail them back to them in a couple of weeks." On MSNBC, they apparently had a discussion on how Trump could be so outrageous as to demand the confiscation of private property. But in showbusiness this is what is known as a "joke". And in the theatre it lands: everyone's laughing and having a ball."

mikee म्हणाले...

I understand that another Twitter post did the same for Biden, adding a laff track to his nomination speech, but when the work was completed, Joe's speech sounded exactly the same as when delivered originally. That, and Joe has dementia.

stevew म्हणाले...

I yearn for the day when we can laugh again - for real, not just a laugh track. And making fun of a politician who will laugh with us.

That's why I'm voting for Donald J. Trump this November.

Phil 314 म्हणाले...

Ive always thought he had a comedic style and pace to his “speeches”. This is not news.

Leland म्हणाले...

Doesn't this require a "not funny" tag, because you don't need a laugh track if you always got the joke, but when you believe that Trump isn't funny, then you need the laugh track to see how he is. Imagine if we put a laugh track on Trump asking Russia for Hillary's emails. We may have saved taxpayers millions of dollars.

Birches म्हणाले...

Leiland is right. The laugh track sitcom for elites is a sign of unsophisticated humor. But the deplorables don't need a laugh track on Trump to get the joke. What does that say about elite humor here?

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

First, there is no "not funny" tag. The tag is "The Era of That's Not Funny."

If I were to use it, it would be because of the implication that a lot of people who don't hear the comic timing are humor deaf (because a laugh track would "explain" what they are missing).

Myself, I heard the comedy all along, but I think the laugh track proves that those of us who hear humor are right.

Dust Bunny Queen म्हणाले...

I've always thought that Trump was a funny guy. People who won't or can't understand the humor, the ironic statements and the sarcasm, and who take everything he says in a literal sense are impaired in some way. (IMO)

One of the symptoms of Trump Derangement Syndrome is a marked lack of humor and the inability to get a joke.

Trump is really amusing when he wants to be and his voters appreciate it. His riff on walking slowly down the ramp is hilarious. Slow Walk on the Ramp (Truncated version. The longer one is even funnier) This is why his rallies are so much fun and enthusiastic

Bilwick म्हणाले...

You could also set a laugh-track to "liberals" trying to explain economics, or attempting a syllogism.

rcocean म्हणाले...

Next to Reagan, Trump has been our funniest President of my life time. He's not a story teller like Reagan, he's a stand up comic. Supposedly, Barbara Bush derisively nicknamed Trump "the Comedian". Is this what is going on here? "Oh, Trump just a comedian".

I don't know. I do know that if Trump was a Democrat, we'd be hearing from the MSM *constantly* about his Killer Wit and Great Sense of Humor.

Being likable and/or having a sense of humor can be a great advantage in politics. Look at Biden. He can lie about trump and say vicious false things like "Trump says Nazis are fine people" and everyone thinks: "Oh well, that's just Good ol' Joe making a gaffe."

rcocean म्हणाले...

One way the Lying Press has attacked Trump is by taking every joke and treating it like a SERIOUS STATEMENT. Trump asked someone to take his wife, please. Why does he hate his wife? Trump asked why a chicken crossed the road! Why is Trump so ignorant. Trump asked the Russians to help him find Hillary's emails. we need to investigate and have a special prosecutor!

I suppose the MSM is helped by the fact that 1/4 of the USA has no sense of humor, and the number who can't understand humorous hyperbole or sarcasm is even greater.

Cheryl म्हणाले...

More, please.

I'm pretty sure he hears that laugh track in his head, which is fine. The delivery is great. I think this works even better than the Sophisticated Trump, and it's probably one reason he's so good at rallies.

Wince म्हणाले...

As Althouse points out, this mixes two genres simply to make a point.

Trump is engage in stand-up comedy. A laugh track usually accompanies a situation comedy show.

This is just to emphasize the humor points in Trump's stand-up that you usually see in the faces behind him at in-person rallies.

Yet, I'd love to see Trump with one of those laugh tracks from a predominantly black situation comedy, with...

an over-the-top laugh track where, in addition to normal laughing, the "audience" hoots and hollers or shouts "Ooooooooooh!" in unison when a character makes some kind of "attitude" remark or reveals something to another character they weren't supposed to or something. Also, when the "audience" goes into a fit of righteous shouts of "You go girl!" type of approval when one character "tells off" another who "had it coming".

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"I yearn for the day when we can laugh again - for real, not just a laugh track."

A Chink, a Dago, and a Kike walk into a bar...

What? Too soon?

Nobody used to get offended at 'ethnic' jokes. My Dago uncle used to tell some really good ones...most of them about Italians. We laughed because we could relate to them. We knew the types of people in them...we were those people.

JaimeRoberto म्हणाले...

When I see the media get worked up about Trump's jokes, I wonder if they truly have no sense of humor or if they are willfully ignoring the humor or if they are only reading the text. In other words, are they mendacious, or just stupid?

MadTownGuy म्हणाले...

Where are the rim shots?

Mary Beth म्हणाले...

I like when Trump is talking to the press and makes them laugh. You just know they hate themselves later for laughing.

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

are they mendacious, or just stupid?

Yes.

hstad म्हणाले...


Blogger Sebastian said...
"A laugh track is revelatory....Althouse herself gets credit for repeatedly showing how Trump's style works..." 8/22/20, 6:28 AM

It's hard for me to finally see this, because Mr. Trump has this ability which the MSM omits.

But the reason it works, is Mr. Trump is one of two people in my lifetime, Reagan being the other, who actually speaks to the common man. More power to Mr. Trump. Remember, Mr. Trump's election is not cause of these things [Elites refusing to talk to the average person]. He's the result of these things.

Lesa म्हणाले...

This was not a laugh track. This was during Trump's appearance at the Council for National Policy. Here is a link to the whole event. Look for the jokes re: Biden around the 12:55 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw2dDjndCqQ

Trump is a great speaker: fearless, often hilarious, sarcastic, quick on his feet. He can be mean when it's called for, but he's not vicious. But the part I love best -- and have from day one of his campaign -- is his ability to articulate in public what so many of us see and feel but have no forum to express: that "The King Has No Clothes." For a long time, we've not had anyone in politics able or willing to call things out as they truly are. We used to have comedians for that, but they have been muzzled, so Trump stands alone.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"His riff on walking slowly down the ramp is hilarious. Slow Walk on the Ramp "

Thanks, DBQ, that was hilarious. I liked the thing about not being able to lift the water glass. 'I had just saluted 600 hundred times!"

stevew म्हणाले...

Damn straight Joe Smith. Mick jokes were popular in my family and usually involved drinking to excess, which we might have been doing when telling them. ;-)

ELC म्हणाले...

As well as Mark Steyn, Scott Adams pointed out years ago that Mr. Trump has remarkable comedic timing.

Martin म्हणाले...

If youve ever watched one of his rallies you knw this--they are not like most political rallies of canned speeches, every one the same except for a few local refereces. He rffs on the news of the day and it IS funny.

PM म्हणाले...

Cross btw Rickles and that Insult Dog. Fonny.

daskol म्हणाले...



The proof it is funny is in the laugh track. That is also funny. The folks pretending Trump's being literal are the fakers.

daskol म्हणाले...

Trump doesn't boast like Obama, but he has earned "I'm a better comic than the comics doing me."

daskol म्हणाले...

Rodney Dangerfield could do Trump, except that Trump is already doing Rodney, so it would be Rodney doing Trump doing Rodney.

daskol म्हणाले...

PM, a little Rickles, a little Pat Cooper too.

daskol म्हणाले...

BTW, Pat Cooper on Stern. He's a little bitter, but he's got Howard's number. Always did.

daskol म्हणाले...

No laugh track on this one, but it was appearances like this that got Howard interested in Cooper. Like Trump, Cooper may be overwrought, but his aim is true.

daskol म्हणाले...

Roseanne is still the best. Here she is with a dorky radio guy she likes, being funny, kind of like how Trump is funny, just completely naturally. The discernment is merely what is said

daskol म्हणाले...

btw, as far as Roseanne is concerned from that interview, comedians she's met and loved: red buttons, bob hope, Louis Anderson (best bob hope impression ever), carlin of course, sam Kinison, norm Macdonald, professor Irwin Corey, buddy Hackett (didn't know, but prank called him terribly), bob Einstein (super Dave, Marty on Larry David show). she was super disappointed in meeting Robert denier.
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daskol म्हणाले...

Johnny Carson too, apparently said really encouraging things to her (she launched her career on his show, catching Julio Iglesias' eye that night, going on tour with him and the rest is history).

daskol म्हणाले...

Trump doesn't get to work the Vegas/Atlantic City rooms, he's got to work much tougher crowds. The toughest crowds.

Matt म्हणाले...

Now do Fauxbomba pronouncing 'corpsemen' and "keep your doctor' and 'if I had a son' and 'acted stupidly' and 'I...stutter stutter...me...stutter stutter' etc etc.