Hundreds of people swept through the Magnificent Mile and other parts of downtown Chicago early Monday, smashing windows, looting stores and clashing with police for hours https://t.co/oUd3diKaDm— Chicago Tribune (@chicagotribune) August 10, 2020
"The looting began shortly after midnight as people darted through broken store windows and doors along Michigan Avenue carrying shopping bags full of merchandise. Cars dropped off more people as the crowd grew. At least one U-Haul van was seen pulling up.... Crowds repeatedly tried to bash in the windows of the Omega watch store at Delaware Place and Michigan Avenue. 'The watch store,' one officer said. 'They’re gonna get it eventually.' A group of people went in and out through a broken window of the Louis Vuitton store along Walton Place across the street from the Drake Hotel. A squad car drove by and the group ran away. But as the car rode off, at least one person tried to go into the shop. The police returned. 'Go home!' One cop shouted. 'You go home!' Someone shouted, apparently back at the officer."
ADDED: At the Washington Post, the headline is "Looters smash business windows along Chicago’s Magnificent Mile," and somebody in the comments says:
This must be a first for the Washington Post. They actually refer to those who smashed windows as "looters." Yesterday, they referred to those who intended to set fire to the Police Union's building in Portland as "protesters."
Is the Post finally waking up to smell the accelerant?
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Winning hearts and minds.
This is not new. I have not gone to north Michigan Avenue the last few times I have been in Chicago.
A Vote for Biden is a vote for more of this.
If only Chicago would elect politicians like Barack Obama to unite the people...
The new normal in some cities. Get used to it.
THEOLDMAN
This is the restrained, pre-election version.
Imagine when they have defunded the police and can order the feds to stand down.
i wonder What, they were protesting? High watch prices, i guess?
I don't know any details, so this is just speculation. I suspect that this event is similar to the youth wilding events that happen in this area of Chicago every few months and more often in the summer.
It would surprise me if BLM or AntiFa were involved. It would not surprise me if Chicago gangs were involved. As the CPD declines the already strong political and economic power of the gangs increase.
This type of activity predates our recent peaceful protests and has been going on for several years. At some point, the Southside of Chicago will be completely run by the street gangs with the tacit approval of Mayor Lightfoot and the aldermen.
"The looting began shortly after midnight as people darted through broken store windows and doors along Michigan Avenue carrying shopping bags full of merchandise."
"Mostly peaceful" shopping, no doubt.
Peaceful protesting, of course. Exception to Wuhan rules.
"Hundreds of people swept through the Magnificent Mile"
The wages of Dem rule.
By the way, what sorts of "people"?
And how long before Chicago turns into Detroit?
If the Nazis had lasted 200 years, they would have had their quieter times. I wonder if, in the long run, they'd be seen as worse than the Democrats.
"A group of people went in and out through a broken window of the Louis Vuitton store along Walton Place across the street from the Drake Hotel"
Good one. "A group of people"
Lightfoot had a nice big birthday party for herself at city hall. I'm sure it was 10 or less, masks were worn and social distancing was practiced. No worries. She also built a "wall" at Montrose Beach to keep tax-payers away from beaches.
Bring back the guillotine.
I'm beginning to think that Trump might even win IL despite massive cheating in Chicago.
The Mayor won't call in the National Guard because that would offend her base. And Trump is probably happy to let the city burn. A big plus for his campaign.
I was going to go to the Art Institute for a show this summer. No way now. Too unsafe.
Chicago, and most of our major cities (and many of our states) are a complete mess, run by incompetent Democrats who do not have the will to do the job their post requires. Chicago is one of the greatest cities in the world. And it's being destroyed from within. Over the weekend I read about a senior driver stopped and surrounded by young men on rented bikes in the Streeterville part of town. They pulled him out of his car and drove off. When Michigan Avenue and Streeterville are gone, you've lost your city.
No one will come back. I'm sure Governor Hyatt, er...Pritzker, and Mayor Lori Lightbrain will have some way to blame this on Trump or Republicans, or some other outside group. But this is a pairing of two of the most corrupt and incompetent people in Chicago history- and that's saying a lot.
We are watching the dismantling of the USA by outside anarchists and Marxist groups who have found a home and like-minded helpers in academia, the media, and the Democrat Party. This is the reality. And one wonders, how long will the rest of America sit back idly and watch this carnage continue? How long until there are actually groups of others who feel that they have to stand up for their homes, their cities, their states, because their so-called leaders either do not have the will to do so, or they are accomplises to the anarchy.
If Biden is elected, then political civility will be restored and institutional racism will be eliminated.
1: Now we see the violence inherent in the system.
2: Help help I'm being repressed.
3: When the going gets tough, the tough go "undocumented shopping".
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Capitalists gotta learn. You know that all of the food will still turn up in stores under communism only it will all be free! Under communism nobody will have to work unless they want to.
“A job will be guaranteed, but not mandatory.” - Bernie Sanders (OK parody, but not by much.)
"A group of people went in and out through a broken window of the Louis Vuitton store along Walton Place across the street from the Drake Hotel.”
This is very interesting... as a luggage problem.
At least we can be reassured that social media sites had nothing to do with the coordination of this because of their vigorous anti-violence self-policing efforts.
The Night Chicago Died was really about the night Chicago was born.
Waiting for a strongly worded statement from Biden.
Zzzzz...
Boobaloo Bois strike again! Come on, man, there must be surveillance video of old white guys in Hawaiian shirts and MAGA hats looting stores. Why is this being suppressed?
No Louis Vuitton bag, no peace! Omega watches are just symbols of White privilege. I think the cops are confusing socially justified after hours shopping with looting.
When I lived in Chicago in this area, there was the occasional smash and grab at the big stores.
But this is a whole big caravan doing everything all at once. Because the earlier riots showed the mayor is not there to stop this sort of thing.
I was just watching CNN talking about this, and their big takeaway was that they need to discover "what sparked this". As if there is some good reason for this.
I don't know if BLM arranged this in any way, but I know BLM shut down the mag mile for Black Friday a few years ago. So these stores have been a target of theirs for years.
A few years ago someone in our group wanted to go on the Chicago mobster bus tour for a 30 year service deal so we all went. one of the hoary stories was of the Italian guys whose girlfriends wanted them to throw a brick through the Michigan st. jewelry stores and get them some diamonds. "Break this window!, Break that window!, wadiya think? I'm made of bricks?"
So there has been some level of this always. But the City will miss the 11% sales tax on these stores when they leave for safer parts. Chicago tourism and shopping was an incredible wealth generating machine that paid for a lot of social programs. I guess the populace would rather have a viton bag instead. Just about time to sell out while I can and "work from home" in a state that has no income tax.
Maybe they should've elected Thunderbolt.
I'd think Sunday night would be the best time of the week to start a looting riot -- fewest cops around, etc. Kudos for the good planning.
Amish? College Republicans? What’s the Cruel Neutrality guess ?
Mayor Lori Lightintheloafers will not do anything, because those rioters are her backers.
I have on good authority that umbrella shops and stores selling Hawaiian shirts were especially hard hit.
I think PDJT told us how he is going to campaign starting next month.
He will hold massive rallies just like before and call them "peaceful protests"
If asked what they are protesting, they can say "The deep state", "fascism" (as in the antifa & BLM), "Democrat corruption" (How many people saw the news about FBI raiding the Ukranian PrivatBank offices in Cleveland last week? And seizing their buildings?
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Justice Department Seeks Forfeiture of Two Commercial Properties Purchased with Funds Misappropriated from PrivatBank in Ukraine
Both Properties Worth a Combined $70 Million
The United States filed two civil forfeiture complaints today in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida alleging that commercial real estate in Louisville, Kentucky, and Dallas, Texas, both acquired using funds misappropriated from PrivatBank in Ukraine, are subject to forfeiture based on violations of federal money laundering statutes.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-seeks-forfeiture-two-commercial-properties-purchased-funds-misappropriated
As PDJT stood speaking in Cleveland in front of t a wall of "laundering" (or washing) machines.
Yeah, if the fascists can "peacefully protest" on Michigan Ave, so can our side. Except ours really will be peaceful.
John Henry
State-enforced property rights were what ended slavery. Slavery may be becoming economically attractive again, once everybody has to spend capital on their own security forces. Companies can then attack each other and the winner enslaves them instead of killing them.
Not just the exchange of women anymore.
Paying for stuff is oppressive:
"Now, I’m running for Congress to dismantle every oppressive system that denies us the basic necessities to live."
Dammit, I even asked in this blog's comments a while ago where and when the next unrestrained looting was gonna happen, so I could get my Christmas looting completed early, and not one of you greedy so-and-so's told me it was Chicago! There is enough for everyone, stop being greedy, and announce the looting locations and times in advance, so we can all participate! /s
"What sparked this" was on Sunday PM a Black guy shot at some cops who returned fire and wounded him. The mayhem was then organized on social media. The cops knew this was coming but were totally outnumbered.
CNN/NYT/MSNBC will all be on top of the details...Trump's fault.
Protesters destroy your shit. Looters destroy my stuff.
Again with the "How Trump lost Althouse" articles?
Democratics know OrangeManBad caused this, right?
This was Boogaloo Bois or some such bull shit.
Explain away, Trolls.
"They actually refer to those who smashed windows as "looters.""
Yeah, but did they have any actual evidence that anyone actually took anything?
Asking for a retired law prof.
If Biden is elected, then ….. institutional racism will be eliminated
No, it will no longer be reported.
A bit off topic but not too much:
John C (where the C stands for Chicago) Dvorak recently recommended the Chicago PD series.
I'm not normally a fan of this genre but started watching it last week and am hooked.
Available free on Amazon Prime.
One of the things I notice when watching TV shows on Prime is that every 2 minutes it seems like there is a fade out for commercial. Almost 20 commercial minutes total for a 60 minute show. It is only a very brief fade out and fade in but it reminds me of how horrible TV is. Did I really used to sit still for that shit?
Thank goodness for streaming.
John Henry
Can someone remind me when a Republican was last in charge of ANYTHING in Chicago?
This must be a first for the Washington Post. They actually refer to those who smashed windows as "looters." Yesterday, they referred to those who intended to set fire to the Police Union's building in Portland as "protesters."
My guess is that the people in Chicago are Black. The people in Portland are white progressives.
Unexpectedly!
This is only what they are reporting - must have been far far worse.Today, NPR even broke down and gave a very brief report on the Portland "protests."They emphasized how teeny tiny the fires set by rioters were.NPR didn't mention Chicago, but the lengthy explanation on how Trump's executive orders would not actually help anyone didn't leave enough airtime.
Let's see if Chicago can outshine Madison in the genre of boarded-up shop window art.
BLM now means Black Looters Matter. ChiTown is kaput.
I don't care a fig about liberal Democrat Chicago. They wanna burn their city and the government there wants them to... they can go to hell.
But here in Texas, you try that shit, even in liberal Austin, and there will be lots of blood in the streets. Cops and citizens will deal with it here.
Drop dead Chicago. You made the bed, now sleep in it.
"The looting began shortly after midnight as people darted through broken store windows and doors along Michigan Avenue carrying shopping bags full of merchandise. Cars dropped off more people as the crowd grew. At least one U-Haul van was seen pulling up."
All YOURS Progressives. Enjoy your downfall.
They even rented (or stole) a U haul to haul away their expensive goodies!! Obama should be proud of his people.
Trump might win 47 states at this rate. I'll give Biden Delaware, Rhode Island and Mass.
No, the Democrats are waking up to smell the internal polling.
Yeah, why hasn't Obama spoken up? He can address his base via Twitter or YouTube from his seaside cottage on Martha's Vineyard.
I just saw video of cops hiding a block or two away down side streets.
SWAT team deployed early this morning, after the streets were empty.
High end Chicago looked like Mogadishu last night.
"It's a trap!" the Afro-Amphibian mayor Lori Lightfoot said. Then she went off to get a haircut, because hygiene is imprtant to her.
When black gangs figure out how to start fires and use lasers, Chicago is in big trouble.
"CNN talking about this, and their big takeaway was that they need to discover "what sparked this”.”
They have their creative team combing through Trump’s tweets as we speak, looking for anything. Word is. that if they come up empty by noon, they will just make something up.
This is all because Umbrella Man suggested it so it’s because of white supremacism.
"hey even rented (or stole) a U haul to haul away their expensive goodies!! Obama should be proud of his people.”
It’s probably all on e-bay already.
"somebody in the comments says:
This must be a first for the Washington Post. They actually refer to those who smashed windows as "looters."
They should have gone full bore and called them 'protesting looters.'
I cant wait for the next LLR-lefty penned post on "Why The Marxist BLM Violence And Looting Represents True Principled Conservatism So Vote Straight Democrat In November To 'Conserve Conservatism' And Make Sure To Donate To Whitmer!"
I'll bet it will be one of (you know who's) best posts ever!
This must be a first for the Washington Post. They actually refer to those who smashed windows as "looters."
See what happens when you lay off too many copy editors?
Don’t worry. By mid-October all the BLM “protests” will be over and done with and the Post and the Times will be pretending that the rioting and looting never happened. Althouse will obediently fall into line.
Recall if you will, though the left caused violent disruptions at nearly every venue, Chicago was the only place Trump had to cancel his campaign rally due to extreme violence in 2016.
Note they don't try this in LA's Korea Town, or NY's Diamond district. The locals have guns, but no insurance.
Louie doesn't shoot back.
PackExpo is held in even number years in Chicago. It is the largest trade show in the US, occupying all 5 buildings of McCormick. @1.2mm square feet IIRC.
I've been to every one since 84. They have something like 150,000 visitors and exhibitors. probably hundreds of millions of dollars spent on hotels, meals, cabs, services and so on.
PackExpo for October 2020 has been cancelled.
I wonder if it will be back in 2022? If things go like they are in Chicago, I wonder if I will attend? My life is interesting enough without getting caught up in fascist mobs.
PackExpo Las Vegas has been held in alternate years and gradually getting bigger.
It is essentially the same trade show and there is generally no need to go every year for most people. I'm a glutton and go to both.
LV is a much better town, less expensive, friendlier easier to get around.
I wonder how many people will go to PackExpo Chicago 2022? I wonder if they will even have it?
John Henry
I will say this for our mayor: At a presser this morning with the police supt., she made clear this was not protest, was (by implication) not Woodstock, not poor people trying to feed their families, but outright inexcusable criminality.
So I'm giving thanks for small favors. (And she was clearly pissed AF.)
Took some shots at our state's attorney (although not by name) and courts, noting that if you just process and release people who get arrested, you'll just get more of this.
Again, seems fairly obvious, but I'll take it.
So far as I have seen, Kim Foxx (the state's attorney) is nowhere to be found (maybe snuggling with Jussie Smollett). Would have been nice if she and the chief judge had been up at the podium with the mayor and police super.
Democrats better pick up the pace defunding the police before this gets out of hand.
Was Take-it-easy Coates taking it easy in Chicago? Did Crackster get a crack at his reparations?
Bilwick,
"Afro-amphibian" has a nice ring to it.
And it can't (yet) be considered racist!
Really?
You're going to give Lightfoot credit for blaming everyone but herself?
Democratics votes for this.
They were warned.
I hope the rioting finds Royal ass Inga's neighborhood.
And Howard's.
And roesch/voltaire's too.
I want people to get what they have expressed they want.
Ride that tiger, fuckers.
Chicago is entirely a Democrat city. Look at what happens there.
That's the Democrat's party vision for the rest of the country. One party rule - leftist policies -- massive crime and violence.
Like I say, Browndog, grateful for small favors.
Not that I think she will be one, but we're always open to converts in my church!
"I will say this for our mayor: At a presser this morning with the police supt., she made clear this was not protest, was (by implication) not Woodstock, not poor people trying to feed their families, but outright inexcusable criminality."
How'd she work it in that it was Trump's fault?
Chicago resident here hoping for the first time that cold weather comes early this year.
Watch little kids build stacks of blocks very carefully and joyfully knock them down. Consider the fascination most of us have with fire. With fireworks. The colors, the bright flashes, the earth-shattering kabooms. Consider the spectacular violence and destruction in "blockbuster" movies. We, the collective "we" seem to have a fascination with violent destruction even as we deplore it.
This rioting and burning and looting is just the real-life, "grown-up" version of what children seem to love. Nothing to do with politics, at least not serious politics. Wait until the rioters start getting shot (I hope not critically). Might temper their appetites a bit.
This video pretty much sums up Chicago last night
PackExpo for October 2020 has been cancelled.
I wonder if it will be back in 2022? If things go like they are in Chicago, I wonder if I will attend? My life is interesting enough without getting caught up in fascist mobs.
The American College of Surgeons meeting was cancelled in San Francisco last fall. I used to go every year it was in Chicago or SF. This year it will be "virtual" but I wonder if it will ever go back to Chicago or SF? The College HQ is in Chicago, north of where the riots were last night. Who wants to be subjected to that nonsense?
The Trump ads make themselves...show 60 seconds of looting, fires, fist fights, people getting run over by cars, windows being smashed, etc. At the end, a simple voice-over, 'Brought to you by Joe Biden and the Democrat Party.'
And to win over the white housewives, make sure you include shots of the Prada and Kate Spade stores being smashed and looted. That will really boil their blood.
Gotta get down to it
Gangsters are cutting us down
Couldn't have been done long ago
What if you knew them
And found them dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?
Four dead in Chicago
Forty dead in Chicago.
Four hundred in dead in Chicago.
Odd thing about Chicago, for being such a crime-infested city they have some of the most beautiful parks and museums of any city in the country. At least where all the rich folks live...
Seems to me we need more police. But I'm just a stupid rightist.
@John Henry
2 summers ago I did a number of setups at MCcormick Trade shows. All the big ones, including PackExpo. Its amazing the money that flows through that place. I wasnt a regular, but that summer i more or less was. I was in the decorators union, but never did decorating. 60% of the time I was either putting up those huge signs or taking them down. 40% of the time helping carpenters. I bet I did 25-30k steps a day. You'd park and have to walk nearly a mile anywhere you had to get to. Many of the laborers who have seniority make over 100k/yr. Not this year. All the hotels, restaurants, everything.......poof. Bj Partying in Lake Geneva, Groot having her birthday party on the roof of City Hall. All is well.
Browndog said...This video pretty much sums up Chicago last night
I saw at least one red hat -- convict!
Peaceful protestors try to burn down police stations with people locked in them.
Evil looters and rioters trash stores where the elite like to shop.
It's simple when you realize that other kinds of people aren't real and don't matter.
I hear that they have taken The Night Chicago Died out of airplay forever. It was cancelled because the song implied that we should be happy for “momma” and the narrator when Dad, who was a cop, came home alive. Look for yourself! Do you blame them? Read it for yourself, I am not making this up. Who could believe that people would listen to this Birth of the Nation type crap on the national airwaves?
There was shouting in the street, and the sound of running feet,
and I asked someone who said, about a hundred cops are dead.
I heard my mama cry, I heard her pray the night Chicago died.
Brother what a night it really was, brother what a fight it really was.
glory be.
I heard my mama cry, I heard her pray the night Chicago died.
Then there was no sound at all, but the clock up on the wall. (tick tock tick tock tick tock)
Then the door burst open wide, and my daddy stepped inside,
and he kissed my mama's face, and he brushed her tears away.
It’s disgusting.
What is a little bit disconcerting is now half of the country is lustily cheering at the demise of progressive Portland, Seattle and now Chicago.
Granted, I think Lori Lightfoot is a fucking asshole who helped create this mess by vilifying the very police force she needs to keep order but we need to put an end to this wanton looting before lots of people get hurt. It would also big a big help if the press simply called this what it is, criminal looting instead of pretending its some legitimate expression of rage.
"Note they don't try this in LA's Korea Town, or NY's Diamond district. The locals have guns, but no insurance. “
North End of Boston was quiet too, while they looted WASP Newbury Street. What they are going to get out of this is a real hard ass leader who will “make the trains run on time” if they are not careful. It won’t be Trump, he is actually too nice a guy to deal with these people.
Sebastian - I have to hand it to the Democratic mayor of Detroit, Mike Duggan and his police chief James Craig. There have been protests but attempts at looting and rioting have been vigorously responded to and perpetrators are arrested. Duggan and Craig made it clear from the start that rioting would not be tolerated and they've pretty much kept the peace. They have supported the officers on the street. I have to hand it to both of them. Also good news for Detroit, Kim Worthy, who has been a very fair and effective county prosecutor for 16 years (who is a Black woman) won the primary for Wayne County prosecutor against a "Woke" challenger.
Lost a LOT of its "magnificence" now. Dem mayor, Dem governor, dumb, Dumb, DUMB.
What is a little bit disconcerting is now half of the country is lustily cheering at the demise of progressive Portland, Seattle and now Chicago.
Personally I'm not exactly cheering it but I feel like it needs to happen. I just feel that the residents of these cities need to actually experience the results of what they keep voting for. I'm hoping that they get "mugged by reality" and start behaving more sensibly. But of course it could just as easily end up resulting in a massive exodus of middle and upper class citizenery rather than any attempt to fix the disaster they brought upon themselves.
GK1,
"What is a little bit disconcerting is now half of the country is lustily cheering at the demise of progressive Portland, Seattle and now Chicago"
How else will they learn the lessons they need to learn? Common sense obviously doesn't do it?
Again with the Goddamn Passive language. WHO is looting? WHO is shooting? WHY the shooting and looting? Instead its "Looting breaks out" and "Shots rang out".
The complete lack of curosity about WHO is actually looting, rioting, and shooting at policeman - and WHY. Is it because they're Antifa? Or because they are black? Or both? One can only assume it, since NO ONE seems interested in giving us the FACTS.
I"m waiting for a "Known Right-winger with an umbrella" or "several Frat boys in sunglasses and Hawaiian shirts" to be ID's at the scene.
I am surprised this was covered by the Media at all.
In Chicago, the criminals are not afraid anymore to take shots at police (3-4 shootings at police in last 10 days). Chicago has had overall 427 shot and killed YTD. Great statistics on Chicago at Hey Jackass! Illustrating Chicago Values
And Miracle Mile has had multiple lootings. When you are let out of jail after being arrested, and not charged, there are no consequences.
I have found this blog disheartening, but useful. It's by some Chicago Police Officers:
Second City Cop
I"m waiting for a "Known Right-winger with an umbrella" or "several Frat boys in sunglasses and Hawaiian shirts" to be ID's at the scene.
Was nice to see Folks wearing masks.
Gk1 said...
What is a little bit disconcerting is now half of the country is lustily cheering at the demise of progressive Portland, Seattle and now Chicago.
I completely agree.
We're either all Americans or we are not. It's a stain on all of us. If you want to separate from them, declare civil war....I'm fine with that too.
We're not there yet.
Notice that none of these peaceful protesters ever broke into a NYT or WaPo printing plant to steal the newspapers. They may be protesters, but they've got a discerning eye where value is concerned. Or maybe they just don't have any fish to wrap or parakeet cages to line.
Imagine being in one of those cars trapped by the rioting mob.
You ask yourself if you dare to escape and get charged with "hate crime" if some thug twists his ankle stomping on your car hood. Or lock the doors and pray nobody shoots you. Or beats your head in on the pavement because of the color of your skin.
America 2020. 1992. 1977. 1967. Etc.
"Now, I’m running for Congress to dismantle every oppressive system that denies us the basic necessities to live."
From her Twitter: I came to America with nothing. In 10 years, I went from mopping restaurant floors to taking on the biggest banks on Wall Street.
Her personal story is in direct contradiction with her political aims.
The people destroying, in part, are attacking what they cannot build.
They understand their own impotence and lash out at those who can build, and the manifestations of what was built by their betters.
This is exactly like the Palestinians destroying greenhouses that could have been used to feed people.
They hated the builders more than they love themselves or their children.
The same thing is true with these Democratics in Democratics' controlled monopoly cities.
Ride the tiger.
I think it’s good to have the Co-axial escapement represented somewhere in a so-called collection. Even if yur beyond Omega, I still like having a couple of those things around cause I appreciate the unique design.
Plus I think I’ve been told that, as a side benefit, they’re more resistant to magnetic interference. I don’t know it this is right. And, if it is right, I don’t know how much of a benefit is gained w/ that escarpment v Swiss Lever. If I was less lazy I’d look up specs v a Milgauss.
Anywho, back to the point, I can see why folks would want an Omega. In fact, losers who steal probably don’t already have better watches. So, they’d really be into Omega.
IMHO.
"and somebody in the comments says:
"This must be a first for the Washington Post. They actually refer to those who smashed windows as "looters." Yesterday, they referred to those who intended to set fire to the Police Union's building in Portland as "protesters."
Is the Post finally waking up to smell the accelerant?"
They can't hide it anymore. That's what's up with Wheeler, the NYT, Wa Po. That's what's up with Inga. Nobody buys the "peaceful protesters", and 'Trump's fault he brought in the troops', and 'it's really the right'. It's gone on too long and the facade is crumbling. They're trying to salvage their credibility.
I never worked PackExpo, but every year at SouthPack we would amuse ourselves by driving forklofts over industrial bubblewrap.
It never got old.
I know one of the store owners--small shop. 2nd time for him. This is insane. The war on cops shows a complete disregard for order. On our way to being somalia?
Michael K said....
The American College of Surgeons ... HQ is in Chicago, north of where the riots were last night. Who wants to be subjected to that nonsense?
It is a gorgeous old building on North Lake Shore Drive. I think that area is safe because the Gold Cost is where the big (mostly old) money lives. It is Rahm Emmanuel territory.
>>'it's really the right'.
Russians... don't forget the Russians!
Blogger Professional lady said...
"Sebastian - I have to hand it to the Democratic mayor of Detroit, Mike Duggan and his police chief James Craig."
Understood. I was just referring to the devastation of Detroit after rounds of riots decades ago.
Gk1 said...
What is a little bit disconcerting is now half of the country is lustily cheering at the demise of progressive Portland, Seattle and now Chicago.
Seeing as how so many of the people of those and other leftist cities have been calling half the country bigots, racists, etc., you shouldn't be surprised that you aren't seeing much sympathy. You elected the people who're making all of the crime and destruction not only possible, but basically approved in the name of social justice. If you get some lumps as a consequence, well, you can suck it.
@anti-de Sitter space
"I think it’s good to have the Co-axial escapement represented somewhere in a so-called collection."
I agree somewhat, but if you have very, very deep pockets then I would go for a George Daniels, only to be (rarely) found at auction. If you are just merely rich, then get in line for a Roger Smith piece...
"What is a little bit disconcerting is now half of the country is lustily cheering at the demise of progressive Portland, Seattle and now Chicago."
Lustily cheering? No. But it is difficult to be the target of their venom, accusations that we are the ones responsible for all this, and not have a bit of schadenfreude.
Are these events dangerous? Extremely so. But what can we do? Can we make the press report responsibly? Can we stop the looting. All we can do is vote for leaders who support law and order and suffer the vitriol hurled at us for doing so.
This video pretty much sums up Chicago last night
Scroll down a little and see some macaques(?) protesting.
There are some lessons that can only be learned through experience.
Moved to Northwest Indiana (Chesterton) in April, for all the reasons you can guess at. But I commute to work on the South Side, 58th and S.Stony Island Ave. To get there, I drive through the Englewood, South Shore and South Chicago neighborhoods Those of you who know Chicago understand what I'm sayin'. If you don't know Chicago, check out these neighborhoods on the Hey Jackass blog. Tomorrow for the first time, when I go to work, I'm packing heat in my car. I've been thinking of doing so for a long time, but now I'm going to do it. I can't decide: should I take my 9mm or my .357? I'm partial to the latter because it'll never jam, but I'm open to suggestions.
Waiting for my Indiana carry permit to arrive. With that I'll be able to legally carry in my car in Illinois even though I don't have an Illinois CC.
Indiana, btw, is an enlightened state. Open carry is permitted.
Francisco D said...
Michael K said....
It is a gorgeous old building on North Lake Shore Drive. I think that area is safe because the Gold Cost is where the big (mostly old) money lives. It is Rahm Emmanuel territory.
I believe the old building you are referring to is the museum of surgery. Well worth a visit. The college of surgeons is a modern building.
Daniel
“These individuals engaged in what can only be described as brazen and extensive criminal looting and destruction"
Says Da Mayor. "Individuals" -- hmm. Just one word missing.
A popular storyline among the commenters at the Post is that the rioters in Portland are all disguised white supremacists. Not kidding! I haven't seen anyone make that claim about the looters in Chicago, but the day is still young.
I laughed this morning when I read about the "protestors" that fired a shotgun into the Wauwatosa home of former Wauwatosa Police Officer Mensah's girlfriend's home.
"...losers who steal probably don’t already have better watches."
People even buy watches nowadays? I probably haven't worn one in fifteen years.
rcocean said...The complete lack of curosity about WHO is actually looting, rioting, and shooting at policeman - and WHY. Is it because they're Antifa? Or because they are black? Or both? One can only assume it, since NO ONE seems interested in giving us the FACTS.
In a word, fear. Reporters and news outlets fear being targeted or cancelled if they report the who, what, and where when it concerns these racially sensitive matters.
@ 8:32 am Blogger Francisco D said....
...As the CPD declines the already strong political and economic power of the gangs increase...At some point, the Southside of Chicago will be completely run by the street gangs with the tacit approval of Mayor Lightfoot and the aldermen.
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2020 Chicago probably is turning into 1920’s Chicago where Al Capone and his rival gangs ran the place. It took the Feds going in there to restore some order at that time with the gangs controlling the judges, prosecutors, police dept. and the politicians. Who is to say the 2020’s iteration of the gangs don’t already control at least part of city hall, considering how they are growing in power on the street, and how corrupt Chicago politics is?
My wife and I have enjoyed traveling to large cities such as Chicago, Minneapolis, and Seattle over the past 20 years. We have decided that we most likely will not be going to any large city that is run by Dem mayors who are vowing to gut their police departments out of concerns for our personal safety. I just hope that the citizens from those cities don’t move to my small town to escape this crap and then bring their “progressive” voting habits with them and destroy my town like they destroyed their own.
8/10/20, 8:32 AM
Fatso Pritzker lives on Astor Street just off N Lake Shore Drive. I noticed that at his press conference he blamed Trump for a failure of leadership on Covid 19. This from a governor who doesn’t do a thing while the geese that lay golden eggs are fried in Chicago.
What a sad sack. He is Jerry Nadler without the charm and good looks.
The painting of the girl on the train really bothers me. It's called The Irritating Gentleman and it moves me because of the young woman's pain. She is crying; she is traveling alone at a time when that was very unusual and jeopardized a woman's safety, and she is in mourning. The older man is no real "gentleman" and he is a selfish lech.
There must have been ALOT of confederate statues in that area......
"What is a little bit disconcerting is now half of the country is lustily cheering at the demise of progressive Portland, Seattle and now Chicago.
No one is cheering their demise, but some of us are a little amused at the chickens coming home to roost.
"I laughed this morning when I read about the "protestors" that fired a shotgun into the Wauwatosa home of former Wauwatosa Police Officer Mensah's girlfriend's home."
Here's a report. Maybe our Wauwatosa embed can provide local details.
From the article: "According to a Wisconsin Public Radio (WPR) article, a prominent leader of the Milwaukee BLM movement said “protesters went to Mensah’s house to toilet paper and put crime scene tape up."
I always wondered how they got the toilet paper into the tree tops. Now I know. Shotgun.
“People even buy watches nowadays? I probably haven't worn one in fifteen years.”
For a good chunk of so-called car guys, watches are a thing, too.
There are levels of baller re watches that allow you to be way more on the DL v owning cars. Everyone knows that a Ferrari is gonna cost some dough. Watches are way more tricky to spot. The general population understands that Rolex is expensive compared to Seiko (though not necessarily when compared to Grand Seiko (not that the general population knows what GS is)). But, folks w/ a bit of an interest in watches will know what Rolexes are most desirable. And, those folks will get lost at higher levels of knowledge. Lots of levels where you can hide while being out in the open w/ your big dough pieces. Only noticed by folks like you.
For example, it’s EZ PZ to wear past fifty grand and still be under the radars of the watch guys that are at the level where folks know a new GMT is a tough get. IOW, folks can be fairly actively into watches (such that they know, e.g., which Rolexes are hard to get), but they’re still way off v how deep you can get. There’s a bit of a game that you can only win by knowing what’s what. It’s beyond just having the money to afford nice watches. Ya gotta know. No riff-raff (incl chumps that happened to be rich) can play.
IMHO.
So here in Utah, we've had a fascinating contrast to Chicago and the like. Here, for the most part, the BLM protests are in fact peaceful. And not by their choice!
So Salt lake is a Democrat town, and the first big night of "protests" was a riot. The governor had the National Guard out and armed helicopters buzzing the rioters, who quite quickly turned into peaceful protestors. It's been for the most part peaceful since, since the rioters now know that the Governor is prepared to gun them down if necessary.
So they tried 'protesting" in another city, Provo. There, the police were told to leave them alone, and one of the protestors (Inga's favorite, no doubt) shot a motorist. Caused quite a ruckus! Especially since the cops didn't do anythihg. So next night, the rioters show up to keep on being violent, right? Except... they ran into a newly formed milita group of the citizenry, all heavily armed, who just leaned against the buildings watching them. Didn't talk to them, didn't do anything but hang out there. Funny, no rioting....
Every time one of these little scuffles breaks out, where the rioters descend and fight with the cops, the next night this militia group has shown up and just lounged against the buildings, sporting enough firepower to take over a small African nation.
Our protests are peaceful. And you can see the BLM activists gnashing their teeth in frustration, because they aren't stupid enough to take on what I think are very heavily armed, trained veterans who aren't at all interested in letting them loot and cause mayhem. The cops? They are quite grateful for the support.
wendybar said...
They even rented (or stole) a U haul to haul away their expensive goodies!! Obama should be proud of his people.
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as Obama said - you didn't build that {because raciss oppressed} so take it.
I'd like to quote Mr. Ronnie James Dio
"Play with fire,
you burn your fingers
and lose a hold of the flame ..Yeah!"
@Roughcoat, the answer to your question is straightforward. Do you have training and experience in clearing jams with your 9mm? Enough so that you won’t get flustered in the middle of a gun fight? If the answer is negative, or even if it’s “not sure,” then go with the revolver. Or take both.
Blogger MayBee said...
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I was just watching CNN talking about this, and their big takeaway was that they need to discover "what sparked this". As if there is some good reason for this.
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8/10/20, 8:54 AM
Did they show a big poster of Trump behind the round table of experts asking this question?
Big Mike:
Thanks for the input. I think I'm up to the task of clearing a jam in a gunfight, but I don't think a gun fight is likely in the sort of encounters I'm prepping for. Rather, I'm thinking that a blitz assault on me, in my car, while driving through the hoods and/or stopped at traffic light, is the biggest threat. No time, in those circumstances, to futz around with a jam. So: I'm going with the wheel gun. If six shots and a heavy stomp on the gas pedal doesn't save me, I don't think anything will.
@Roughcoat: Welcome to Porter County. We moved here (Valpo) from Hyde Park about five years ago and couldn't be happier about it. I figured things would be deteriorating in Chicago and Illinois, but I had no idea.
My wife and I have enjoyed traveling to large cities such as Chicago, Minneapolis, and Seattle over the past 20 years. We have decided that we most likely will not be going to any large city that is run by Dem mayors who are vowing to gut their police departments out of concerns for our personal safety.
I feel the same way but I have family in Chicago. When my mother was alive, I was there every three months or so and I spent quite a bit of time around north Michigan.
I just wish I could get my sister out of there but she has grandkids she will not leave. Like New York, Chicago has also poisoned the state. That leaves out nice small towns.
Gk1 said...
What is a little bit disconcerting is now half of the country is lustily cheering at the demise of progressive Portland, Seattle and now Chicago.
I'm not a cop, but as a professional combat arms officer, occasionally, we had to drill on riot control tactics.
What I got from professionals was that the forces of good and order had to know when to get violent enough fast enough. Riot control is about deterrence. You are always outnumbered, so you need to be more cohesive and organized. Once the rioters lose their fear of you, you will be swamped unless you rapidly escalate. As a Roman said:
"Let them hate us as long as they fear us"
The police in a number of cities are now faced with crowds that hate them and don't fear them. a recipe for urban disaster then martial law at the end of a bayonet.
Dem mayors and governors have not listened to LEOs. Unfortunately, the rioting is going to continue until there is blood in the streets. They need to deploy the Guard in a number of those cities, and get serious about no-bail and prosecutions.
so, I'm not cheering that Portland, my nearest city is collapsing, but I am enraged that the Mayor and Governor won't step up and kick some antifa ass. kick ass now or shoot them next week.
"I was just watching CNN talking about this, and their big takeaway was that they need to discover "what sparked this"."
Try starting with the police stood down.
Swarmy* Woke-ists
(apologies to the prophet Joel)
Hear this, Progressive leaders;
listen, all who live in the 'Blue' land.
Has anything like this ever happened in your days
or in the days of your ancestors?
What the Woke-ist swarm has left
the great Woke-ists have eaten;
what the great Woke-ists have left
the young Woke-ists have eaten;
what the young Woke-ists have left
other Woke-ists have eaten.
Wake up, you Democrats, and weep!
*a sleazy, sneaky, sweaty, unscrupulous person.
Clark:
Thanks! We love our new home and we love Porter County. Wonderful area, so glad we moved here.
P.S. Have you been to the Chesterton drive-in movie theater? Wow! Wife and I attended recently and made out in the car, just like back in the day. What fun.
Original Mike said...
"I was just watching CNN talking about this, and their big takeaway was that they need to discover "what sparked this"."
Try starting with the police stood down.
because their political bosses were wusses.
Chi-town under both Daley's was corrupt, but would have put this unrest down
"Let them hate us as long as they fear us."
Oderint dum metuent.
Works for me.
The Homeland Security leader, a lawyer who has a bachelor’s degree in mechanical engineering, said, “For those of you who are engineers like me, [laser illumination drops off as a] square function. So if you’re twice as far away, it’s a quarter of the energy.”"
Apparently, he needed more than the bachelor's degree.
Blogger Joe Smith said...
Odd thing about Chicago, for being such a crime-infested city they have some of the most beautiful parks and museums of any city in the country. At least where all the rich folks live...8/10/20, 10:35 AM
Well that's partly true?
4 are located a short walk from the South Side!
The rest are located near the Loop(South of LaSalle)?
Now if memory serves me correctly, aren't most of the rich people living on the Gold Coast and North Shore?
Blogger Paul said...
"But here in Texas, you try that shit, even in liberal Austin, and there will be lots of blood in the streets. Cops and citizens will deal with it here."
I wish I still believed that. Unfortunately, the DAs, Mayors, and City Councils in the large cities in Texas have made it clear that they aren't going to do anything. I am concerned that the first citizens to respond forcefully will find themselves in legal hell.
The reality is the cops are not on our side.
Plan accordingly.
"In response to the riots in East Portland the past two nights, the PPA has sent a letter to Mayor Wheeler and District Attorney Schmidt. In closing: "I am disgusted that our City has come to this. If it is acceptable for rioters to commit acts of violence against community members and to try and burn down occupied buildings, and if this conduct is allowed to continue, then Portland is lost."
Whoa, whoa, whoa! There is no rioting in Portland. What makes you say that?
it's the Left's big winner-take-all gamble
they're either going to break the system a la Cloward/Piven,
...or become so odious they're forced to slither back underground
Scotty, beam me up... said...
2020 Chicago probably is turning into 1920’s Chicago where Al Capone and his rival gangs ran the place.
Alphonse wouldn't have put up with shit.
I was just watching CNN talking about this, and their big takeaway was that they need to discover "what sparked this".
The rental time on the U-Haul was set to expire.
Ingachuck etc,
If we are going to quote Joel, I think this is the verse that is on point here:
3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
John Henry
New profile who dis? said...
"I wish I still believed that. Unfortunately, the DAs, Mayors, and City Councils in the large cities in Texas have made it clear that they aren't going to do anything. I am concerned that the first citizens to respond forcefully will find themselves in legal hell.
The reality is the cops are not on our side.
Plan accordingly."
Dis, I live in Texas. Even Austin police chief said, when Garrett Foster welding an AK-47 at Black Lives Matter 'protest' got himself shot DEAD just a few weeks ago, that the shooter, Army Sargent Daniel Perry, was justified.
The Sargent was let go. Foster went to the morgue.
Case will go to Grand Jury (as it almost always is) but the police said self defense. Don't try to open a car door with an AK in your hand in Texas... Don't block traffic and pound on the cars... We have 'Stand-Your-Ground' laws here.
John henry ...
Those that beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those that don't.
Or as Mao said, "Political power comes out of a barrel of the gun."
Make sure you have yours.
"because their political bosses were wusses."
Exactly so. This is one the democrat "leadership" in the cities and NOBODY else.
Anyone see Lightfoot lose it when the reporter asked her a straightforward question?
Now if memory serves me correctly, aren't most of the rich people living on the Gold Coast and North Shore?
No, that's too simplistic. The Northwest Side is vast, about one-third of the land area of tbe city, mostly white, and middle class or wealthy. Very little crime there. The Old Man (Richard J.) used to call it "da great Nort-west side". It's quite pleasant, really, almost North Shore-like in its ambiance. Two of the neighborhoods on the NW side are, per capita, among the most Irish-American in the country: very law-abiding and well-kept. The Southwest side has white areas, notably Mr. Greenwood and Beverly, that are mostly white and, respectively, middle class and wealthy. Mt. Greenwood is primarily Irish-American, working class, lots of cops and firemen and city workers, nice home and in some places very upscale homes. Same goes for the Near North Side, although it's spotty. Beverly is problematic because it is very wealthy but borders an inner city neighborhood -- in time-honored Chicago fashion, things change radically from one side of the dividing-line street (or railroad tracks) to the other. Bridgeport and Canarville -- Chicago's version of Hell's Kitchen -- is also very Irish; surrounded by inner city crap neighborhoods, working class, raw and tough (less so than in the past, but still ...): the housing stock isn't pretty but the property values are astronomical because home owners only sell to family members.
You want to know where the bad and good neighborhoods are, take a look at the violent crime/shootings/murder map at the HeyJackass web site. The good neighborhoods are invariably majority white, by a large margin; the bad ones are black and hispanic.
one = on
2020 Chicago probably is turning into 1920’s Chicago where Al Capone and his rival gangs ran the place.
Alphonse wouldn't have put up with shit.
Nor the West Side Donnellys and South Donnellys, and the other Irish gangs on the North Side. Those mick and dago gangsters, gotta hand it to 'em, they kept their neighborhoods safe for civilians. Even during the height of the Prohibition bootlegger wars, the civilians were hands-off; it was mainly the gangsters who were getting whacked (by each other).
Interestingly, one of the safest neighborhoods in Chicago was Ukrainian Village on the Near North Side. In the day it was all Ukrainian, and it was "patrolled" by huge blond Ukrainian "youts". You did not want to mess with those guys. It was like that until the late 70s or so when the Ukies moved out and the hood got gentrified by Yuppies.
Vance: "So they tried 'protesting" in another city, Provo. There, the police were told to leave them alone, and one of the protestors (Inga's favorite, no doubt) shot a motorist. Caused quite a ruckus! Especially since the cops didn't do anythihg. So next night, the rioters show up to keep on being violent, right? Except... they ran into a newly formed milita group of the citizenry, all heavily armed, who just leaned against the buildings watching them. Didn't talk to them, didn't do anything but hang out there. Funny, no rioting...."
This is not possible as Howard has explained many many times that antifa is PRECISELY like our WW2 Normandy D-Day invaders who are chock full of courage and moral righteousness and nothing can stop them and certainly not any horrible deplorables......
....yet every time even a modest number of armed citizenry pops in to say "hello" to Howard's Heroes it doesn't take long for Howard's Heroes to back off and retreat.
Gee, can any historians at Althouse blog tell me if our Normandy invaders ever retreated? I don't think so....but Howard was so gosh darn adamant about the "courage" of the antifa types........so they must have.
Right Howard?
"Apparently, he needed more than the bachelor's degree.”
It would all be wasted and he would just slow down the other students.
I never would have believed that mayors and governors would be so irresponsible. Frankly the president should invoke the constitutional requirement that the federal government provide a republican form of government for each state and have the feds take over those states. Then remove all these mayors, city council and governors from office and revert them back to territory status until they can demonstrate they are fit for self governance.
Beverly is problematic because it is very wealthy but borders an inner city neighborhood -- in time-honored Chicago fashion, things change radically from one side of the dividing-line street (or railroad tracks) to the other.
My sister lives in Beverly and hears gunshots most evenings. It is not "wealthy" but was back when I lived in Chicago and in the 50s. I grew up in South Shore, which was a delightful area in the 40s and 50s but is a hell hole now. The destruction of Chicago came with the progression of the blacks into white neighborhoods, many of which were working class and ethnic. It might well have worked if the "integration" of Chicago had no coincided with the Johnson "War on Poverty" that destroyed the black culture.
What has happened is that two forces coincided. One was Johnson's destruction of the black family. The other is the rise of the black gang-politician alliance in Chicago.
I never would have believed that mayors and governors would be so irresponsible. Frankly the president should invoke the constitutional requirement that the federal government provide a republican form of government for each state and have the feds take over those states.
Shhh. After the election.
"Lustily cheering? No. But it is difficult to be the target of their venom, accusations that we are the ones responsible for all this, and not have a bit of schadenfreude."
I totally get that and believe me I was enjoying all of this as little as 2 weeks ago. Now? I am a little afraid we are reaching a tipping point where America is beginning to look like a lousy place to invest and is beginning to look as fractured as Lebanon.
Browndog gets it. We ALL look bad and it's a collective stain on all of us that we allow such violence to go unchecked. Its unhealthy and unsustainable in the long run. We can blame the blue cities, dem enabling media and irresponsible Mayor's for allowing this to spiral out of control but we are headed for a civil war when we take great satisfaction in watching blue cities burn to the ground. These are still our countrymen even if some of them our douchebags.
Andy Ngo, editor-at-large at The Post Millennial, noted that “Antifa rioters in north Portland have access to more than $1.3m in bail money, as well as pro bono lawyers. This is one reason even the extremely violent suspects get released so quickly to riot again.”
This is what Lightfoot was complaining about. Maybe the NYT will get on this, given that Andy Ngo is not a real reporter. He just goes to the riots, puts his ass on the line, and listens to what people say. I mean, really. Lame, right?
My sister lives in Beverly and hears gunshots most evenings.
East of the tracks, probably? Probably not west of Western, I'm thinking.
"Browndog gets it."
We all get it. Since you didn't see fit to post the rest of my answer I'll repost it for you:
"Are these events dangerous? Extremely so. But what can we do? Can we make the press report responsibly? Can we stop the looting. All we can do is vote for leaders who support law and order and suffer the vitriol hurled at us for doing so."
We're all ears as to your solution, Gk1.
"We ALL look bad and it's a collective stain on all of us that we allow such violence to go unchecked."
I can't imagine things changing much unless the Democratic Party hierarchy comes out in favor of the rule of law and equality before the law.
"These are still our countrymen even if some of them our douchebags."
Ok, but what's the solution? As long as the douchebags insist on crapping their bed, there's not much anybody else can do. They have to want to change or they won't.
Roughcoat if you shoot through the car window aim slightly higher, 1-2 inches.
Paul: in the Austin shooting, the cops also freed the protester who fired 3 shots at the sergeant’s car as it drove away. On a street crowded with protesters. Why wasn’t he charged with reckless discharge of a firearm? Could easily have hit a marcher and the car was going away from him.
GK1 and Browndog: I don’t consider people trying to destroy our system as “fellow Americans” I consider them the enemy. If you want things to revert back to law and order, the democrats have to be resoundingly run out of office this November. If they get the presidency and Senate, this country will never be the same.
I always thought that the CPD had handguns and long-guns. Guess I was wrong. Seriously, that the only way to stop this.
Don't think for a minute that riots and looting will have any effect on the politics or attitudes of the residents of looted-out cities. It hasn't been so in Detroit, or Los Angeles, or St. Louis, or Baltimore. Cities may go from Democratic and wealthy to Democratic and poor, but they never turn Republican. They simply become more Democratic, and poorer.
"Browndog said...
This video pretty much sums up Chicago last night"
While I certainly disapprove of looting, what really offends me in the clip browndog linked to shows that they're all wearing blackface.
“So if you’re twice as far away, it’s a quarter of the energy.”
Apparently, he needed more than the bachelor's degree.
He's half-right; the beam has a constant divergence angle, usually very small, and beam width increases linearly with d, so beam area increases with d^2, so the energy density decreases with d^2, but the total energy remains the same (except for loss to atmosphere).
If the beam went from 2mm to 4mm, the total energy hitting someone would be the same, but the energy/area would be 1/4th, so less likely to burn. How that'd affect someone's retina after passing thru the eyeball optics (which would tend to focus the beams) is hard to tell until the beam gets big enough that some energy doesn't hit the eye.
I read about an interview of Martin Luther King Jr. in which he remarked on 'n*groes' who looted during riots. He said that they did not really want the things they took, but rather they wanted the experience of taking.
Think about that.
ALL THEY NEED IS A BIG FAT BAILOUT
Once the Dems sweep all 5 branches of govt
Gk1:
We can blame the blue cities, dem enabling media and irresponsible Mayor's for allowing this to spiral out of control but we are headed for a civil war when we take great satisfaction in watching blue cities burn to the ground. These are still our countrymen even if some of them our douchebags.
We are headed for a civil war when those in charge of blue cities make no effort to stop those blue cities burn to the ground. Note that a number of those in charge of burning blue cities tried to blame Trump for the burning.
I take no satisfaction in watching blue cities burn to the ground. As a former Democrat, I do take satisfaction in concluding that the Demo responses to burning blue cities give additional support to my opinion that Demos are totally unfit to govern anything except perhaps the lost pets department in a town of 5,000.
I take no satisfaction in watching blue cities burn to the ground. I'd like someone in charge to start arresting or shooting the looters and burners. Just like Richard Daley, Hizzonah da Mayah of Chicago, recommended back in 1968, IIRC.
We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye ... and now we are indignant, because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.
So sayth, Obama's Reverend right after thousands of Americans died on 911. That's the Left. So, I'm not crying bitter tears that the Leftists that run the big Cities of America can't control the riots after they REFUSED Trump's help and attacked him. Now, its their chickens coming home to roost.
wbfjrr2 said...
"I don’t consider people trying to destroy our system as “fellow Americans” I consider them the enemy."
Hard to argue with that, considering our country's founding document states, in part:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Democrats don't agree with that. And they don't want you to have any of it except what they permit to you, subject to revocation at any time.
Regarding the laser calculations, the inverse square law does hold for the irradiance of the laser as it does for the irradiance of a conventional point source of light (e.g., a light bulb at a distance >> than the bulb's filament size). The difference with the laser is that, being so directional in nature, the intensity is so much greater for a given power than that of a conventional light source. Assuming a 100W light bulb and a 100mW (i.e., 0.1W) green laser (which would be towards the more powerful end of the commercially available green laser sources), both at an equal distance from the source to the eye, the laser irradiance would be on the order of 80,000 times greater that that of the light bulb.
Because nothing says “I am poor and need to find food for my family” quite like a Louis Vuitton handbag.
Jack Muller just rolled in his grave.
Wow. Having trouble distinquishing the live shots from Lebanon from the tapes of the Miracle mile.
A light bulb is inverse cube law, isn't it?
ken in tx said...
I read about an interview of Martin Luther King Jr. in which he remarked on 'n*groes' who looted during riots. He said that they did not really want the things they took, but rather they wanted the experience of taking.
Think about that.
8/10/20, 9:25 PM
Yes, I've heard this. I don't completely understand it, but I do not like it. It seems like the expression that rape is not about sex but about power. We're not talking about Jean Valjean here.
Roughcoat said...
I can't decide: should I take my 9mm or my .357? I'm partial to the latter because it'll never jam, but I'm open to suggestions.
Roughcoat, final answer I think.
A vehicle encounter may very likely be at point-blank range when an assailant attacks you through the window and you must fire at contact distance. In this case, trapped in your seat, there's every possibility that you will have to jam the muzzle into the body of your opponent.
In this case, you will put an automatic pistol out of battery and it will not fire. A revolver will not jam under pressure on the muzzle. Therefore, you should definitely take the revolver in this circumstance.
The only exceptions I can think of are blowback pistols like a Ruger 22/45, or conceivably a Walther P38 or other semi-automatic pistol with fixed barrel not covered by the slide. Even a fixed barrel pistol like a Steyr GB has a full-length slide, and if you put pressure on the bushing or the crown, you will retract it and take the gun out of battery.
This would happen with a 1911, a Glock, or any modern pistol of my recollection. Try it. Shove the muzzle of your gun into a pillow such that the slide is pushed back, oh, a quarter of an inch, then pull the trigger and tell me what happens. (Also, if it does go off, please be wearing a face shield of some sort, and heavy gloves.)
Note that a revolver may be made to jam or fail to fire, by either tightly gripping the cylinder so it does not rotate (in DA mode), grabbing over the hammer so it does not rise (DA), or inserting part of one's hand under the hammer so that it does not fall (SA or DA). This is much less likely and not by accident.
Also, probably not applicable in your case, a small auto fired from inside your coat pocket or purse may fire once, then jam as the slide gets bound up in the fabric or contents.
A revolver, as long as the hammer has an inch of room, will fire again and again, unless cloth, coins, etc., get stuck under the hammer. (Against this, get a hammerless or shrouded hammer design like the S&W Centennial Airweight of James Bond fame.)
I have a .38 special target revolver, courtesy of S&W. It is my go-to firearm. Have had it for 45 years and it has served me well.
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