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The John Lewis funeral.

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I was just listening — on my car radio — to the eulogy by Bill Clinton. I want to say a few things about it — my key words are "cancel" and "infect" — but I will have to wait for the transcript.

ADDED: Obama is giving a eulogy now (at 12:46 CDT). There's a third President there today: George W. Bush. He spoke first, so his is the first transcript that's available. Excerpt:
John’s story began on a tiny farm in Troy, Alabama, place so small he said you could barely find it on the map.... Every morning, he would rise before the sun to tend to the flock of chickens. He loved those chickens. Already called to be a minister who took care of others. John fed them and tended to their every need, even their spiritual ones, for John baptized them. He married them and he preached to them. When his parents claimed one from family supper, John refused to eat one of his flock. Going hungry was his first act of nonviolent protest... He always believed in preaching the gospel, in word and in deed, insisting that hate and fear had to be answered with love and hope. John Lewis believed in the Lord, he believed in humanity and he believed in America. He’s been called an American saint, a believer willing to give up everything, even life itself, to bear witness to the truth that drove him all his life, that we could build a world of peace and justice, harmony, and dignity, and love.... 
AND: Here it is, the Bill Clinton speech, the one where I wanted to highlight "cancel" and "infect":
I think three things happened to John Lewis... that made him who he was. First, the famous story of John at four with his cousins and siblings holding his aunt’s hand more than a dozen of them, running around a little old wooden house, as the wind threatened to blow the house off its moorings, going to the place where the house was rising and all those tiny bodies trying to weigh it down. I think he learned something about the power of working together....

[A]s a child, he learned to walk with the wind... [H]e challenged others to join him with love and dignity, to hold America’s house down and open the doors of America to all its people.... [N]o matter what, John always kept walking to reach the beloved community.... When he could have been angry and determined to cancel his adversaries, he tried to get converts instead....

Twenty years ago when I came here after the Selma March to a big dinner honoring John and Lillian and John-Miles... ... I was almost out of time and people were to be present and people were asking me, “Well, if you could do one more thing, what it would be, or what do you wish you had that you had done that you didn’t?”.... I said, “If I could just do one thing. If God came to me tonight and said, ‘Okay, your time’s up. You got to go home and I’m not a genie. I’m not giving you three wishes.’ One thing, what would it be?” I said, “I would infect every American was whatever it was that John Lewis got as a four year old kid and took through a lifetime to keep moving and keep moving in the right direction and keep bringing other people to move and to do it without hatred in his heart, with a song and be able to sing and dance.”
I thought it was interesting that Bill Clinton took those 2 words that are so conspicuous in present-day American culture —  "cancel" and "infect" — and turned it to the positive. We have a cancel culture — Bill was acknowledging — but if we were like John, we'd have love and we'd keep working on winning converts. And we have the awful infection — the coronavirus — but we could come down with an infection of joy and love and dedication to living together in a better world.

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rehajm म्हणाले...

Ms. Clayton is a gem.

Anthony म्हणाले...

Well, whatever he did back in the '50s and '60s and however he was in his personal life, he was, of late, nothing more than an incompetent, corrupt, dishonest, race-baiting hack.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

Sorry. Busy watching Heather Mac Donald at Center for the American Experiment.

sunsong म्हणाले...

we lost a great man....rest in power John R. Lewis

Bilwick म्हणाले...

Jumpin' Jesus, does it never end? When did he die, a month ago? That's what it seems like, anyway. How many times do you bury a dead guy anyway? The local affliates here seem to have gone to an "all John Lewis, all the time" format. Funeral rites, memorial services, testimonials, etc. Okay, I get that he was a loyal servant to the "liberal" Plantation, but when does it end?

Drago म्हणाले...

Lewis' funeral has now officially disrupted the Permanent John McCain funeral.

I'm Full of Soup म्हणाले...

Is there like a 7 day minimum for the funerals of longtime Swamp dwellers?

Rick म्हणाले...

Unmentioned is his disgraceful participation in Nancy Pelosi's lie that Tea Partiers spit on him and called him slurs as they they pushed through a Tea Party protest? They were on camera the entire time proving she lied.

Revealingly the people who pretend to be outraged over lies and assertions without evidence had no such concern over that event. Whatever could have changed?

wendybar म्हणाले...

When they make it political, I turn it off and tune it out. Too bad they haven't learned a thing since Paul Wellstone.

mccullough म्हणाले...

I remember when McCain and Lewis traded accusations during the 2008 campaign.

Now they are gone.

I'm Full of Soup म्हणाले...

Primary accomplishment for most of them seems to be they did something once when they were much younger and they were also able to get re-elected many many times. Very few of them will be remembered for making the country better while they were in office.

Mark म्हणाले...

It is one of the corporal works of mercy to bury the dead. It is a good and proper thing to remember them with appropriate funeral rites.

That said, in all these events, there is a bit of idolization of this man who, a month ago, 98 percent of the country could not tell you who he was or what he has ever done.

Readering म्हणाले...

After learning that Bush, Clinton and Obama would be speaking at funeral (95 year old Carter does not travel these days), it would have been a nice, unique gesture for POTUS to be there with honor guard at Andrews on his way to Texas and coffin's way to Georgia. He does not do nice gestures.

Kai Akker म्हणाले...

The smug tones of newsmen (and especially those NPR announcer-women!) can make the phrase "civil rights" sound like worthless claptrap. How to use someone else's life to promote your egos and pat yourselves on the back in a way that is totally, totally unearned.

Clayton Hennesey म्हणाले...

Ms. Althouse, did you realize Google is now showing a Captcha panel where your embedded YouTube (their property) video is supposed to be? The reason is no doubt that I'm on a VPN using a server it disapproves of, but this has been the case with my posting comments to your blog forever, using the same VPN and very likely the same or similar IP ranges.

This has happened overnight, it seems; and we are not talking some diabolical machine in the depths of Boratistan, just a bare metal server in Ontario (be my guest, check). Had I the ability to attach a screen capture to this comment, I would have.

Very strange. Someone wants to demonstrate their power levels.

Inga म्हणाले...

Compare John Lewis to Herman Cain, ‘nuff said except RIP to a National treasure, John Lewis.

Bill R म्हणाले...

Among other lies, Lewis claimed Tea Party protesters spit on him called him the N-Word.

"Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor".

Lewis was a serial violator of the ninth commandment. He being a Congressman, it's a pretty good bet he shredded them all from 7-10.

Still, "De mortuis nihil sed bonum" and all that. We hope Lewis enjoys a long respite from his earthly labors. In somewhere warm, no doubt.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/01/15/john-lewis-false-racism-hero-partisan/

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"Ms. Althouse, did you realize Google is now showing a Captcha panel where your embedded YouTube (their property) video is supposed to be?"

No. It looks right to me.

rehajm म्हणाले...

He does not do nice gestures

Took me one second to think of three...I'd wager all three bigger than any kindness you've offered in your life...

Eleanor म्हणाले...

Is his final resting place going to be a gold sarcophagus or a glass coffin?

wendybar म्हणाले...

Readering said...
After learning that Bush, Clinton and Obama would be speaking at funeral (95 year old Carter does not travel these days), it would have been a nice, unique gesture for POTUS to be there with honor guard at Andrews on his way to Texas and coffin's way to Georgia. He does not do nice gestures.

7/30/20, 12:36 PM

Maybe being called a RACIST many times by John Lewis is a reason to stay away from the hate that would spew from the rest of the democrats if he showed up..

Lars Porsena म्हणाले...

Inga said...
Compare John Lewis to Herman Cain, ‘nuff said except RIP to a National treasure, John Lewis.

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Your favorite blacks versus their favorite blacks? Something disturbingly ugly about this.
Like comparing race horses or dogs.

Lars Porsena म्हणाले...

Inga said...
Compare John Lewis to Herman Cain, ‘nuff said except RIP to a National treasure, John Lewis.

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Your favorite blacks versus their favorite blacks? Something disturbingly ugly about this.
Like comparing race horses or dogs.

wendybar म्हणाले...

Yeah...Herman Cain WAS a gentleman. Thanks for noticing Inga...too bad you have to spew hate on the day he dies...just goes to prove.....RIP to a great Man...Herman Cain.

Kai Akker म्हणाले...

--it would have been a nice, unique gesture for POTUS to be there with honor guard at Andrews on his way to Texas and coffin's way to Georgia. [readering]

Why would it? After John Lewis's comments about Trump, it would have been an unmistakably pathetic exercise in hypocrisy and groveling quite inappropriate for the President. No one gets a free pass on everything, not even the recently deceased.


---He does not do nice gestures. [same]

Maybe someone else will enlighten you.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"Compare John Lewis to Herman Cain, ‘nuff said except RIP to a National treasure, John Lewis."

Lewis never had a real job, and contributed nothing to society except for his ability to stoke racial animosity. He was in a position to make things better but all he did for fifty-plus years was complain.

He was a great man in '61, but those days are long gone. He squandered his legacy.

mccullough म्हणाले...

It’s great to see so many people who have done severe damage to this country come together

Sebastian म्हणाले...

"we could build a world of peace and justice"

. . . with Saddam still in Kuwait.

Semi-serious question: what did Lewis do for justice in the "world"? Any causes he championed?

narciso म्हणाले...

a chairman of the kansas fed, a mathematician by training, (he calculated missile trajectories in the Navy) a vice president of pepsi cola, as opposed to yet another

Nonapod म्हणाले...

I'm not seeing a CAPTCHA, but I'm not using a VPN.

The reason is no doubt that I'm on a VPN using a server it disapproves of, but this has been the case with my posting comments to your blog forever, using the same VPN and very likely the same or similar IP ranges.

I'm usually the last person to defend them, but in fairness to Google, VPNs are often used by bad actors with bots to do things like boost page views and video view counts and the like, not to mention automated forum spam that we're all familiar with around here. Requiring CAPTCHA resolves can help cut down on that sort of activity a bit.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

This is why when I die, I'm not telling anyone.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent म्हणाले...

Civil rights? I always thought he was a labor leader. Or a boxer.

Francisco D म्हणाले...

Readering said...
After learning that Bush, Clinton and Obama would be speaking at funeral (95 year old Carter does not travel these days), it would have been a nice, unique gesture for POTUS to be there with honor guard at Andrews on his way to Texas and coffin's way to Georgia. He does not do nice gestures.

You guys failed in your attempt to recreate Kent State. Now you are trying to recreate the Wellstone funeral. Why should Trump cooperate in another one of your farces?

Are there any original ideas over there? Well, outside of the Russian Collusion Hoax that your leaders can't let go of.

Narr म्हणाले...

I had forgotten how loathsome I find Obama's soaring aspirational style, which I heard for two seconds just now on NPR (hoping the music had returned).

I'd pay good money not to ever hear the voices of Obama, Bush, or Clinton ever again.

Narr
And their Mrsesses too

Quayle म्हणाले...

Inga, each is a valued son of our Heavenly Father. Each had strengths and weaknesses. Each made mistakes. Each needed forbearance from their fellow-travelers to get along. Each needed grace. I know it is easy to get caught up on the political winds - to see only through the lens of party or politics. But I choose to not compare. I suppose it to be best to leave the comparisons and judgement to someone who has far, far more knowledge about the motives and the intentions of their heart, than do I.

It is my aspiration to so do, anyway.

Howard म्हणाले...

Trump did the honorable thing by not participating in any way.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
henge2243 म्हणाले...

Blogger Inga said...
Compare John Lewis to Herman Cain, ‘nuff said except RIP to a National treasure, John Lewis.

We all hope that you get to visit both of them real soon.

Phil 314 म्हणाले...

In the ‘60s John Lewis and Black Americans were engaged in a pitched battle with the entrenched establishment of the Democratic Party. Now looking back some 50+ years ago, who ended up coming out ahead in that battle.

TheOne Who Is Not Obeyed म्हणाले...

Agreed Inga - when you compare John Lewis to Herman Cain, you see Cain was always a man of high character and virtue, working hard to make America a better place. Lewis briefly worked to make America a better place, but then leveraged what credit he had to descend into a cesspool of corruption and vile anti-Americanism by working hand in hand with Nancy Pelosi and the race-baiting kleptocrats of the Democrat party. Cain was by far the better man, in life and in death.

And note - you can always tell how abhorrent a politician was by the amount of adulation from the mainstream media. The more adulation, the worse the person.

Clayton Hennesey म्हणाले...

"No. It looks right to me."

Of course it does.

I just sent you a screen shot of what a vast number of "normie" "Boomers" may likely be seeing.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

Have they started taking shots at Trump yet?

Nonapod म्हणाले...

I don't really understand these week long epic funeral dramas that we seem to be seeing more and more of in our modern times. I didn't like it for Bush the elder. I certainly didn't care for it with McCain. I guess I just don't particularly think it's a good idea to ceremoniously deify a person no matter how great they may have been.

That's not to say that I don't think great people deserve a great funeral. It's just that as a funeral gets bigger and more ostentatious... at some point it feels too contrived and disingenuous, like we're trying to convince other people about how good we all are for caring so deeply and morning so righteously. Ultimately I guess my problem with all the wailing and ceromony is that I really feel that people should be remembered for who they were, not what who we imagined them to be. We're not gods. We're just people. We're flawed. The best of us try really hard, fail a bunch, and sometimes succeed.

Back in the olden days, when some great man of state died there would often tour the country with his body so that everyone could see them. But of course that was long before TV and the internet.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

Oh yea, I forgot about the Tea Party lie. That was proven in video and by witnesses that it never happened. He knew he was lying to seriously disparage millions of Americans affiliated with the Tea Party and he did it anyway. What he did decades ago doesn't even make up for that one thing alone. And what he is so famous for doing, was done by thousands of others at the same time, before and after - not exceptional at all. A profitable life lived riding on the back of a hagiography, and he couldn't just take that without telling terrible lies about people who did nothing to him.

zefal म्हणाले...

No comparison between a life-long government barfly and a great American like Herman Caine.

Drago म्हणाले...

Readering: "After learning that Bush, Clinton and Obama would be speaking at funeral (95 year old Carter does not travel these days), it would have been a nice, unique gesture for POTUS to be there with honor guard at Andrews on his way to Texas and coffin's way to Georgia."

LOL

Everyone knows that the very second Trump announced he would be attending the entire democrat party, legacy media and Lewis family members would make a big production out of denying Trump the ability to attend.

Transparently obvious.

The good news: no one is fooled by readering's fake outrage over Trump avoiding the inevitable democrat shenanigans.

Amadeus 48 म्हणाले...

Herman Cain was a treasure, too.

Inga, are you a racist?

CJinPA म्हणाले...

It is utterly impossible on this occasion to not notice the elephant in the room: the civil rights movement that vaulted Lewis to power is long dead, replaced, with no objection from Lewis contemporaries, with an overtly race-first political operation.

It's moral capital has long since run out. It exists now solely on power of black racists and white progressives who prop it up for naked partisan purposes.

Drago म्हणाले...

Inga: "Compare John Lewis to Herman Cain, ‘nuff said except RIP to a National treasure, John Lewis."

Let's look at Herman Cain's background and Inga, feel free to point out what you hate most about Herman Cain's biography:
- BS in mathematics from Morehouse College
- MS in Computer Science from Purdue University...
- ...while working full time for the Department of the Navy (I'm guessing Cain's work for the Navy irritates Inga the most)
- VP of the Pillsbury Company
- Executive of the Burger King company
- CEO (and turnaround expert) for Godfather's Pizza
- Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City-Omaha Branch
- Deputy Chairman and Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City
- Member of the Kemp Commission
- Senior economic advisor to the Bob Dole Presidential campaign (remember when Bob Dole was a racist nazi too?)
- President and CEO of the National Restaurant Association
- and, of course, syndicated columnist and popular public speaker, amongst his political activities

You know, after listing all of Herman Cain's accomplishments and successes, its easy to see why Inga despises him so.

He's just another brother who doesn't accept the liberal plantation overseer pronouncements and rules so, naturally, white lefty racists like Inga are free to fire upon his memory and accomplishments.

Todd म्हणाले...

Readering said...

After learning that Bush, Clinton and Obama would be speaking at funeral (95 year old Carter does not travel these days), it would have been a nice, unique gesture for POTUS to be there with honor guard at Andrews on his way to Texas and coffin's way to Georgia. He does not do nice gestures.

7/30/20, 12:36 PM


LOL! Good one! Yet more of what you don't know.

Why should he (or any sane person) spare one moment for a self service pos like Lewis? The guy cared for NO one but himself and what power he could gain. He regularly wiped he ass with the Constitution he swore to uphold and defend. No lie was too extreme in the furtherance of his goals.

I have a hard time showing condolences for the departed when they spent their lives trying to strip me of my rights and freedoms all the while trying to enrich themselves.

TreeJoe म्हणाले...

Readering said, "After learning that Bush, Clinton and Obama would be speaking at funeral (95 year old Carter does not travel these days), it would have been a nice, unique gesture for POTUS to be there with honor guard at Andrews on his way to Texas and coffin's way to Georgia. He does not do nice gestures."

He does do nice gestures, but he doesn't do many gestures of dignity to perceived enemies. Which I think is a weakness of his.

Sad to say the passing of Lewis represented an opportunity for Trump to reach his hand out to the black community and see even though I don't always agree with your leaders I will show them dignity and respect in times like this.

Sadly, with how deranged many are about Trump, it's entirely possible that doing nothing is the best he could do since anything he did do would be sought to be twisted against him.

Skeptical Voter म्हणाले...

I didn't realize that being a minister was among my professional qualifications. As a boy of 13 living in a 2 acre orange grove in a San Diego suburb in the mide 1950s I raised a flock of 100 New Hampshire Reds. At a time when supermarket chickens were about three pounds each, these "Big Reds" grew to a roasting chicken weight of 7 or 8 pounds on the hoof as it were. While I may have been a minister (per George Bush's statement) I wasn't non violent. My younger brother and I slaughtered those chickens, plucked them, dressed them and into the family freezer---and thence to the family table where I happily ate my share.

pete 23 म्हणाले...

A Tribute to John Lewis and the virtues of Democrat governance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZlp3eGMNI

Bilwick म्हणाले...

Inga the State's Handmaid writes 'Compare John Lewis to Herman Cain . . ."

Okay. Herman Cain, basically pro-freedom what I can tell. John Lewis, stupid State-shtupper (except when he ran afoul of it). One can easily see why Inga preferred Lewis.

MadisonMan म्हणाले...

rest in power
Sounds exhausting. Why doesn't someone pick up his mantle instead, and let him have a well-earned peaceful rest?

rcocean म्हणाले...

Basically Pelosi, Bush and Clinton all said the same thing:

1) Lewis did something great and courageous 55 years ago.
2) I liked him.

Obama added that to honor John Lewis we had to change the election laws to favor D's. that got a huge standing O. Whether Bush stood up and applauded I don't know. Obama also said we needed to honor John Lewis by getting rid of the senate filibuster (a relic of Jim crow) this got applause too, but much less and NOT a standing O.

BTW, Obama is only 58 but he looks 65. Bush is 74 and looks 65.

rcocean म्हणाले...

Bush has some odd, deep love for Black people. I not sure what it is, because he doesn't seem to have any personal black friends in his private life. And he didn't grow up around any. But he loved to surround himself with black subordinates as Governor and President, and he seems to have a "special relationship" with obmama and michelle.

Despite the eulogy, Bush didn't know John Lewis that well. He would've met him a few times as President and that's it. So, why he was so keen on attending the funeral is rather strange.

Vance म्हणाले...

Yes, Inga... Lewis certainly comes off the worse for comparing him to Herman Cain. We both agree there. John Lewis was no national treasure though.

But we can compare the bile you and your ilk spill towards Cain. For sure, we won't have any leftists or Democrats speaking at his funeral, will we? Probably need a battalion to keep your side away because you want to spit and destroy and riot.

I think we should put up some statues to Rafal Ganowicz. The world needs more men like him. I'm sure Inga would agree. Howard would scream and wet himself if Rafal ever crossed his path.....

In the unlikely event you don't know him, he was a Polish mercenary who dedicated his life to exterminating vermin like Nazis and, more importantly, commies. A reporter asked him once what it was like to kill a human. He replied, famously, "I don't know, I've only killed communists."

Definately need more men like Rafal around.

CWJ म्हणाले...

"Unmentioned is his disgraceful participation in Nancy Pelosi's lie that Tea Partiers spit on him and called him slurs as they they pushed through a Tea Party protest? They were on camera the entire time proving she lied."

Didn't he support the lie as well? In fact, wasn't he one of the prime sources of the lie in the first place?

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

I'm sitting this one out, out of respect, before I start asking where he was when Martin was orchestrating the raping of church women?

Jim at म्हणाले...

Compare John Lewis to Herman Cain

Yes. Let's.

One slandered an entire movement by falsely calling them racists.

The other was a successful business man who just happened to think your politics suck.

JB71-AZ म्हणाले...

"After learning that Bush, Clinton and Obama would be speaking at funeral (95 year old Carter does not travel these days), it would have been a nice, unique gesture for POTUS to be there with honor guard at Andrews on his way to Texas and coffin's way to Georgia. He does not do nice gestures."

What makes you think he'd been invited, or would have been welcomed? Folks would have been screaming about how he was trying to make things all about him if he dared to show up.

So spare the effort - he'll be reviled either way.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

Sorry, I mixed up Cain with Ben Carson. I really need to wake up before commenting.

Still no comparison with Lewis. One earned his way though hard work and the other lived off graft and the glory days of youth.

Drago म्हणाले...

The Crack Emcee: "I'm sitting this one out, out of respect, before I start asking where he was when Martin was orchestrating the raping of church women?"

Crack makes a solid point.

rcocean म्हणाले...

There was zero reason for Trump to show up. McConnell and McCarthy didn't show up. In fact, I didn't see any R's there except Bush. There's zero reason to think he was invited. Why?

First Trump didn't know Lewis. Its not even clear he ever met him. Second, Lewis has spent the last 4 years calling trump every name in the book, including Racist. Over and Over. He also voted to impeach Trump. So, why would Trump show up?

Look for him at Herman Cain's funeral. And lets see if Bush and Obama show up for that one.

JAORE म्हणाले...

"‘nuff said "

Whenever you hear this expression it means there is no rational argument for the position taken, so discussion over.

TreeJoe म्हणाले...

Man, Clinton can still give a speech. Credit where credit's due, the guy is a born politician and orator.

Obama's good in prepared speeches or totally casual conversation, but not Clinton good.

rehajm म्हणाले...

At a time when supermarket chickens were about three pounds each, these "Big Reds" grew to a roasting chicken weight of 7 or 8 pounds...

Completely reversed since then. As someone who likes to fry chicken its damn near impossible to find good fryers.

rcocean म्हणाले...

As for Trump being attacked either way. He already has. The second lewis died the Left (and the D's) started talking about how Trump was refusing to honor Lewis and what an insult that was, blah, blah.

Then after 5 hours Trump announced the flags would be flown at half staff, tweeted out his condolences, issued a statement praising Lewis etc. Immediately, the Left and the D's switched over to what a hypocrite trump was, how he was really a racist but trying to cover it up by pretending to honor Lewis, etc, etc.

Bill Crawford म्हणाले...

Maybe Clinton used "cancel" to alliterate with "convert" in the same sentence

rcocean म्हणाले...

In July 2010:

Demonstrators outside the U.S. Capitol, angry over the proposed health care bill, shouted "nigger" Saturday at U.S. Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia congressman and civil rights icon who was nearly beaten to death during an Alabama march in the 1960s.

The protesters also shouted obscenities at other members of the Congressional Black Caucus, lawmakers said.

"They were shouting, sort of harassing," Lewis said. "But, it's okay, I've faced this before. It reminded me of the 60s. It was a lot of downright hate and anger and people being downright mean."


Read more here: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article24577300.html#storylink=cpy

Inga म्हणाले...

“Your favorite blacks versus their favorite blacks? Something disturbingly ugly about this.
Like comparing race horses or dogs.”

Jesus. It’s comparing two public figures who recently died. The color of their skin is YOUR issue, not mine.

Howard म्हणाले...

More winning for you people. Obama looked so out of it mailing it in preaching to the choir. He's a nasty guy, but that's okay.

Wait until the Ben Carson funeral hosted by the Trump MC. Better ratings more respectful with more curb appeal to normal Americans.

narciso म्हणाले...

let us not forget that cain was defamed by david axelrod's scum brigade,

Kai Akker म्हणाले...

---I really need to wake up before commenting. [bagoh20]

DISagree!!

Your 1:17 was a good laugh.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Not so much a funeral as a Canonization.

It's delicious that the pro-abortion, atheist whites of the Democrat party have to sit there and listen to the preaching and Gospel hymns of the religious, but equally pro-abortion blacks, and pretend to be enjoying it all.

Is Pelosi going to 'testify'? Maybe we'll get a 'hallelujah!' out of her yet.

Can I get a 'Amen'?

Bilwick म्हणाले...

Thanks for running that footage of the John Lewis funeral.* Fore the past two or three weeks every time I 'ave put on the tv it's been John Lewis funeral stuff. How many times did he die and have to be buried?






*He said sarcastically.

henge2243 म्हणाले...

I don't understand these lengthy funerals and periods of mourning for politicians either. I feel more sadness for the cock-roach that I just crunched with my shoe after watching it writhe from previously being sprayed with roach killer. Politicians are shit. They should not be celebrated, idolized and their statuary holds no special value other than it's value as a work of art.

We should have the opportunity, while they are lying in state in the Capitol Rotunda, to spit on them one last time. At the end of the week, their casket should be thrown into a dumpster full of horse shit and lit on fire.

effinayright म्हणाले...

https://www.mrc.org/articles/theyre-coming-our-children-rep-john-lewis-compared-gop-nazis-house-floor-1995

“Read the Republican contract,” Lewis said on the House floor on March 21, 1995. “They’re coming for our children. They’re coming for the poor. They’re coming for the sick, the elderly and the disabled.” Lewis’s comment paraphrased a famous passage by Rev. Martin Niemöller, who was in the resistance against the Nazis."

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Yeah, Republicans are genocidal Nazis. That John Lewis was really classy, wasn't he....

Snort.

Rick म्हणाले...

CWJ said...
Didn't he support the lie as well? In fact, wasn't he one of the prime sources of the lie in the first place?


At the very least he supported it by not speaking the truth. I don't recall whether he ever spoke about it. My recollection is that she did all the talking (later supported by Clyburn) but I may just be remembering the initial press conference and forgetting any active support Lewis gave later.

I don't think anyone other than Pelosi can be claimed as a prime source. She was present and made the accusation personally, she wasn't relying on reports from others.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

How long will it be before they start putting deceased progressive 'heroes' in vacuum-sealed, transparent coffins like Lenin, and just line them up in the Capitol building and leave them there?

I predict Obama will be the first...

stevew म्हणाले...

These celebrations of people that lived, prospered even, off the public seem inappropriate in a democratic republic such as ours. I'm not a big fan of naming buildings and roads after them, nor erecting statues to them. If they were truly Public Servants, this would all be unnecessary, unseemly even. But, here we are and I am decidedly in the minority on that score.

Lewis did laudable and courageous things (true application of the word) in his youth. He seemed to mostly conduct himself with dignity in his public dealings. And he didn't kill a young political aid by leaving her to drown after a car crash.

RiP, John Lewis.

Bilwick म्हणाले...

I would have liked Trump to show up and say something like, "Ah, yes--I remember the time John lied about the Tea Party . . .

Iman म्हणाले...

Wasn’t Lewis among those black congresscritters who lied when they claimed they were spat upon and called derogatory names by Tea Party people back in 2009 or 2010?

Jupiter म्हणाले...

Gag me with a spoon.

gspencer म्हणाले...

A grifter being sent to the Great Beyond on the valueless words of other grifters.

Birkel म्हणाले...

To the best of my knowledge, Lewis showed great personal courage which he used to achieve electoral success.

And he seems to have been personally charming within the DC UniParty apparatus.

Past that, I hope his family finds peace in his passing.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

"That said, in all these events, there is a bit of idolization of this man who, a month ago, 98 percent of the country could not tell you who he was or what he has ever done."

Didn't he get bit in the ass by a German Shepherd?

wendybar म्हणाले...

The divider in chief was there dividing us more. It is sickening that he turned this into the Paul Wellstone political funeral....Typical...because what else do they have??? Go away Obama and leave us alone...Go play golf or something.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

"I'm sitting this one out, out of respect, before I start asking where he was when Martin was orchestrating the raping of church women?"

Well, maybe it was rape, but was it rape-rape?

wendybar म्हणाले...

Good thing the democrats aren't letting us regular people go to church for funerals or weddings.....but they sure fill them up with their supporters for THEIR funerals...don't they??

Ralph L म्हणाले...

And he didn't grow up around any

At least some of the GHWBush help was black.

rehajm म्हणाले...

Clinton is campaigning not to be cancelled if Ghislaine Maxwell sings like bird.

He's totally on board with canceling Ghislaine Maxwell, however...

Kay म्हणाले...

I’ve never heard of him.

Kay म्हणाले...

I still don’t like George W Bush, except that I genuinely do admire his talent as an artist and the stunning pictures he painted.

Iman म्हणाले...

IIRC, Lewis was one of the black congresscritters who claimed they were spit on and called vile names by Tea Party supporters.

wendybar म्हणाले...

Was it just me, or did Obama use his negro dialect today so he could fit in?? Seriously, he didn't have that dialect when I listened to him bloviate before. Is it a democrat thing...I recall Hillary doing the same thing.

Stu Grimshaw म्हणाले...

Bush tells a story about Lewis, Clinton tells a story about himself. Typical.

Jim at म्हणाले...

"Bull Connor might be gone, but today we witness with our own eyes, police officers kneeling on the necks of Black Americans. George Wallace may be gone, but we can witness our federal government sending agents to use tear gas and batons against peaceful demonstrators." - Barack Hussein Obama

But, yeah. It's Trump who's the divisive one.

What did you do to combat 'institutional racism' during your eight years? Oh, that's right. You made it worse.

What a piece of work.

Rory म्हणाले...

Bill's maybe not the best messenger about infecting people.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

As usual - Bill Clinton snows us with flowery BS and lies.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Funeral Crasher - me

Peaceful Protestors.

Lucien म्हणाले...

Time to clear the decks before RBG gets her three or four funerals.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"Well, maybe it was rape, but was it rape-rape?"

Exactly...

Billy Jeff is just there to pick up grieving babes.

Rick म्हणाले...

These are the only quotes from Lewis from the McClatchy link.

They were shouting, sort of harassing," Lewis said. "But, it's okay, I've faced this before. It reminded me of the 60s. It was a lot of downright hate and anger and people being downright mean."


Lewis said he was leaving the Cannon office building across from the Capitol when protesters shouted "Kill the bill, kill the bill," Lewis said.

There's a break in the quotes so I suspect in between he was asked exactly what was said that he characterized as "harassing". So he deserves credit for refusing to repeat the lie that the N word was used or that anyone spit. He deserves criticism for pretending opposing Obamacare was "mean" or emblematic of the Jim Crow era.

This last slur was entirely consistent with both his and leftist principles generally: characterizing policy differences as hateful and racist in order to maximize divisiveness and hatred. This is why it's always amusing when leftists criticize Trump as divisive as if this were not their entire campaign strategy for the last 4 decades.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

"[N]o matter what, John always kept walking to reach the beloved community.... When he could have been angry and determined to cancel his adversaries, he tried to get converts instead."

It's a lie. Not only did he smear the Tea Partiers, in his congressional fulminations he repeatedly vilified his opponents. No white politician could have gotten away with it.

MAJMike म्हणाले...

DemCong pep rally.

Gunner म्हणाले...

If Lewis had died during Dubyas terms, wouldn't he have been "banned" from the funeral? The guy hated him too.

Doug म्हणाले...

Althouse, your unabashed love of Sick Willy is nauseating.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

“without hatred in his heart”?

Clinton actually said that about Lewis? Bastard’s off lying again.

chickelit म्हणाले...

Readering rote "He (Trump) doesn't do nice gesture."

Easily disproved. What hack you are.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

" I said, “I would infect every American..."

I think Bill has infected a lot of Americans with a lot of things...

And you do know he doesn't write his own speeches, just like Obama doesn't write his own books?

Susan म्हणाले...

Joe Smith said...
How long will it be before they start putting deceased progressive 'heroes' in vacuum-sealed, transparent coffins like Lenin, and just line them up in the Capitol building and leave them there?

I predict Obama will be the first...

7/30/20, 3:08 PM

I certainly hope so, with a live action coffin-cam to make sure he's still in there.

Nichevo म्हणाले...


Lucien said...
Time to clear the decks before RBG gets her three or four funerals.

7/30/20, 4:39 PM



No, you have to give us this, Jews go right into the ground. Hard to conceive of anything as barbarous as schlepping around McCain's or Lewis's corpse like the Post Office forwarding a case of pickled tongues. Cue the Ghanaian coffin dancers!

Lars Porsena म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Lars Porsena म्हणाले...

Blogger Inga said...
“Your favorite blacks versus their favorite blacks? Something disturbingly ugly about this.
Like comparing race horses or dogs.”

Jesus. It’s comparing two public figures who recently died. The color of their skin is YOUR issue, not mine.
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Come on, Inga. You and yours were calling him a 'Tom' and 'House nigga' in private. That's the way your folks roll when some uppity black bucks the party line. And even if you didn't vocalize it, you think it. down deep in your white heart of hearts..don't bother with a denial

Rob म्हणाले...

Between the George Floyd memorials and funerals and the John Lewis events, it seems we've now entered an era when they can't just put the poor bastard in the ground, they've got to give him a farewell tour of his favorite spots with solemn remembrances in each.

Only slightly off-topic, I remember fondly a sign in eastern Tennessee for a funeral parlor that promised "Cremations Done Right." At odd times I still find myself wondering what happens in a cremation done wrong.

Ray - SoCal म्हणाले...

John Lewis did not attend both of George W Bush’s inaugurations.

As well as Trumps.

Michael म्हणाले...

Clinton’s speech was quite good. Whatever else you might think about him he can deliver a great speech. Obama not so much. He used the occasion to lie about demonstrators being tear gassed. Obama is a loser who would not have walked across that bridge with Lewis. Obama becomes more vile with the passage of time.

Known Unknown म्हणाले...

"Compare John Lewis to Herman Cain"

Why?

steve uhr म्हणाले...

Give trump credit. Plans the whole Tulsa rally so Cain can get sick and die and take away some of the limelight from Lewis. 4D chess once again

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

So I asked myself why I confused Herman Cain and Ben Carson. Do all Blacks look alike? To me, they are a lot harder to distinguish than Whites, but not as hard as Asians, and I'm pretty sure that's true for everyone when identifying another race.

More importantly, what the question also revealed to me was that all black Republicans tend to be accomplished people, who generally started out poor and worked their way up through the merit system, and usually in the private sector. They almost always paid a significant cost in time, money and work to get where they are, and they usually paid plenty of taxes. On the Democrat side I don't see that. I see the opposite.

Do a little experiment and look up black Democrat and black Republican politicians, and compare their backgrounds, and how they got where they are. I think the difference is startling, and the Republicans should be proud of how and why they promote Blacks. Black Republicans are people you should be impressed with no matter who you are. I look at the Democrat ones and I see people who if they were white would be invisible, and likely broke. They sure wouldn't be in Congress.

If John Lewis was white, where would he be? If Herman Cain or Ben Carson were white, they would probably have gotten to the same place they did.

rcocean म्हणाले...

Well, you can see why Trump wasn't invited. It'd be hard for Trump to sit there and have Obama say this:


"Bull Connor may be gone, but today we witnessed with our own eyes police officers kneeling on the necks black Americans. George Wallace may be gone, but we can witness our federal government sending agents to use tear gas and batons against peaceful demonstrators.

We may no longer have to guess the number of jelly beans in a jar in order to cast a ballot, but even as we sit here, there are those in power who are doing their darnedest to discourage people from voting by closing polling locations, and targeting minorities and students with restrictive ID laws, and attacking our voting rights with surgical precision, even undermining the postal service in the run up to an election that’s going to be dependent on mail in ballots so people don’t get sick."

Obama always a divider - not a uniter.

rcocean म्हणाले...

Its hared to see what this part of Obama's speech had to do with John Lewis dying, it seems more appropriate for the Campaign trail:


Once we pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, we should keep marching to make it even better by making sure every American is automatically registered to vote, including former inmates, who’ve earned their second chance, by adding polling places, and expanding early voting, and making election day a national holiday.

Here's the bit about making PR and DC states and ending the Senate filibuster:

By guaranteeing that every American citizen has equal representation in our government, including the American citizens who live in Washington D.C. and in Puerto Rico. They’re Americans. By ending some of the partisan gerrymandering so that all voters have the power to choose their politicians, not the other way around. And, if all this takes eliminating the filibuster, another Jim Crow relic, in order to secure the God given rights of every American, then that’s what we should do.

Unknown म्हणाले...

More honor than McStain

Who specialized in double crossing his supporters

At least he did right by them while raking it in with both hands

Unknown म्हणाले...

a ploy to get the older black vote mobilized

they don't like the riots

Eleanor म्हणाले...

Bill Clinton looked so frail, and Obama looks a lot older than he is.

Narayanan म्हणाले...

henge2243 said...
Blogger Inga said...
Compare John Lewis to Herman Cain, ‘nuff said except RIP to a National treasure, John Lewis.

We all hope that you get to visit both of them real soon.
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stevew म्हणाले...

My favorite part of the Obama era:

"Bull Connor might be gone, but today we witness with our own eyes, police officers kneeling on the necks of Black Americans. George Wallace may be gone, but we can witness our federal government sending agents to use tear gas and batons against peaceful demonstrators."

All the racial healing. Interesting timing on the George Wallace references, no?

Iman म्हणाले...

As the saying goes, “my favorite part of the Obama years was all the racial healing.”

Guildofcannonballs म्हणाले...

https://mobile.twitter.com/BuckSexton/status/1288951529668575232
"Buck Sexton
@BuckSexton
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3h
John Lewis’s funeral was in Georgia. Dozens of Members of Congress were there.

Georgia is on Washington DC Mayor Bowser’s list of states that require 2 week mandatory quarantine for 14 days

Are these politicians going into quarantine, or are rules just for the little people?"

Jason म्हणाले...

Obama compared Trump to Bull Connor.

Obama’s a classless fuck.

And Connor was a Democrat.

Meade म्हणाले...

"So I asked myself why I confused Herman Cain and Ben Carson."

I can tell you why. Easy. Same reason you confuse John Lewis with Frank Lucas.

Meade म्हणाले...

Also the same reason you confuse Herman Cain and Ben Carson and James Clyburn and Steve Cohen and Sean Casten and André Carson.

But not Debbie Dingell.

DavidUW म्हणाले...

Herman Cain followed up one accomplishment with another and another and another.

John Lewis took a beating, was given a seat in Congress for it, and never did another thing but auto-vote democrat and whine about phantom racists in the Republican party while walking by democrats like Robert C. Byrd and not saying a thing.

I liked Herman. He's a brother I can respect.

Can't say the same about Lewis.

Owen म्हणाले...

You can count on Bill Clinton to infect his listeners with whatever cheap rhetorical trick will help them cancel all connection with historical fact. What matters is not truth but a warm wash of, um, sentiment dispensed by the First Black President and Chief Horndog Bill Clinton.

Clark म्हणाले...

I always liked G.W.Bush's cadence. There was always a this and that followed by a that and this. I always assumed it was a speechwriter. It could still be, but I doubt it. I think it's just how he structures his thoughts and, so, his speech.

He was the first president I ever voted for. I don't miss him. And my vote for him was simply following the Buckley rule. I think I voted for Alan Keyes in the primary. Those were the days.

I think much is being ignored about Mr. Lewis as they honor him. I think that's appropriate. I suspect and hope my loved ones will ignore a lot about me when I depart.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Here is some of that "peaceful protestor"

The Portland federal courthouse is trashed. with peace.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

Meade, I didn't confuse any of those people. They got confused all on their own. I've never even talked to them, and if I did, I'd keep it simple, and easy to follow.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

was it Wellstone-ish?

wildswan म्हणाले...

John Lewis's funeral was used to insult half the voters in the country, most of whom respected the man as I did for what he did back in the day. Well, Republicans can still quietly honor the man in our hearts for persisting in the quest for a better society in the face of solidly organized lying and violence. And copy his devotion.

Dude1394 म्हणाले...

So we can have just as large a funeral for Herman Cain can we.

doctrev म्हणाले...

Michael said...
Clinton’s speech was quite good. Whatever else you might think about him he can deliver a great speech. Obama not so much. He used the occasion to lie about demonstrators being tear gassed. Obama is a loser who would not have walked across that bridge with Lewis. Obama becomes more vile with the passage of time.

7/30/20, 6:35 PM

"Men don't change, they just become more who they really are."

Todd म्हणाले...

Jason said...

Obama compared Trump to Bull Connor.

Obama’s a classless fuck.

And Connor was a Democrat.

7/30/20, 8:23 PM


Thanks to public education, 9 out of 10 rioters (sorry, protesters) DON'T know that.

donald म्हणाले...

Trump made extensive federal resources available fornJohn McCain and was completely shit in anyway. So there’s that.

Birkel म्हणाले...

I believe Bill Clinton raped girls provided by Epstein.
He should be indicted, tried, convicted if the evidence is proved to the jury's satisfaction, and sentenced to life in prison.

Skipper म्हणाले...

Why is it OK for this funeral to take place in a fully attended church but virtually no one else can hold a funeral anywhere other than via Zoom? Very selective virus, that Wuhan thing.

Nichevo म्हणाले...

Skipper said...
Why is it OK for this funeral to take place in a fully attended church but virtually no one else can hold a funeral anywhere other than via Zoom? Very selective virus, that Wuhan thing.



Gosh, perhaps they'll die. Sad!