"Epstein kept a secret room full of monitors and watched his guests in real time. He blackmailed the powerful men who would visit and use his girls. If [Ghislaine] Maxwell dies in custody, the federal government will take a hit from which it may never recover...."
From "Powerful men are scared about what Ghislaine Maxwell will say" (NY Post).
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८८ टिप्पण्या:
If [Ghislaine] Maxwell dies in custody, the federal government will take a hit from which it may never recover...."
Which means it is likely to be tried. I hope we have SOMEPLACE secure left in this country to stash her. And a couple dozen SOF to watch her nonstop in shifts. That don't answer to the McRavens.
How many different spy agencies used Epstein?
I heard a blurb on the radio that she is going to rat the Johns out. Bill Clinton supposedly was bopping Maxwell and that's why he was on the jet all the time. Did Hillary know about this? Aren't they married?
You would think she would have some hot documentation salted away to be opened on her death. Life insurance, so to speak.
The federal government already took a huge hit from Epstein's supposed suicide. It was a damned sight too convenient for too many people in government not named Trump, and waaay too many coincidences concerning monitoring cameras, guard inattention, etc.
Good morning Mr. Bond. Care to visit my island? And since the Clinton's are involved, how much longer before the expected "suicide"?
Did you know that Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's father, was a notorious Mossad agent lionized by Yitzhak Shamir at his funeral? Most people don't.
Anyways, it occurs to me that the DOJ taking "a hit from which it may never recover" would be very advantageous to the G-E. At that point, Bill Barr would have to confess that the US prison system simply is not secure, and the President would have the justification to build his own prisons outside BOP jurisdiction. The question left is, who would be sent there?
Or, the multi-billionaires fearing Epstein blackmail would instead fear being dragged into the light as Trump burnishes his "Death to Pedos" campaign. There's no amount of BLM love that would keep them out of a TrumpJail. Either option is something the President would absolutely love.
Time for witsec.
The federal government will take a hit from which it may not recover---over the death of a single woman in custody? That's rather over egging the pudding isn't it?
All jokes--or more accuately jests--about Arkancide aside, why would the deaths of this woman, and the previous death of Epstein cause any more lack of faith in either state or federal government than the bumbling response to the Wuhan Virus and the rioting and looting in the streets of the nation under the ostensible cover of Black Lives Matter.
I don't know which candidate will prevail in November, but there are going to be a lot of voters who are seriously fed up when they hit the polling place. This is going to be a rage election. Interesting to see which side prevails.
Dead woman walking.
Narr
Within ten days
I hope Robert Menendez finally gets his due.
And many others in politics, media, and Hollywood.
I hope the corruption is laid bare.
Good read on Epstein's procurer,
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/07/inside-ghislaine-maxwells-life-on-the-lam
There's a number of people in the world that do whatever they want and there's pretty much nothing that we can do about it. It's not always the same group of people - they come and go depending on their power, ambition and leverage. Nobody is going to "take a huge hit" unless one of those people decides someone else has it coming. We can bitch and moan all we want and maybe, just maybe, chip away at the edges. It is part of the human condition. For a large part, it got us where we are today.
Perhaps everything that has happened to date in 2020 is designed to distract us from what Ghislaine Maxwell knows. Perhaps.
This year has too damn many "events". More baseball, and fewer "events" will make me a happier citizen.
If she wants to live to see 2021, she had better be ratting on everybody associated with Epstein, and she had better be sharing hard evidence as well.
I will not be surprised if she 'commits suicide' shortly after being locked up.
I'm beginning to think this Epstein guy was kind of a creep.
2020 delivers the fucking goods. What a year.
crosse said...
You would think she would have some hot documentation salted away to be opened on her death. Life insurance, so to speak.
I would hope she has a reliable person to handle it when she commits Arkancide.
If Bill Clinton is involved - this woman is dead.
Shh! Privacy.
a damned sight too convenient for too many people in government not named Trump
Yeah, when Trump spoke of social liberal club, they mounted a protest to shut him down, still in progress.
On a related note, the lawyers advertising lawsuits against Boy Scouts and Catholic Church have taken affirmative action to sever the Rainbow connection. #BoysLivesMatter
The Telegraph reveals that Ghislaine will never sell out Prince Andrew, according to her confidante. This is accompanied with a picture of Ghis and Kevin Spacey lolling about in some thrones in Buckingham Palace as Andy's guests. The plot thickens.
remember casino royale, le chiffre was a dodgy financier,
It's amazing how so many smart, wealthy, powerful and accomplished men would be so foolish to fall into a honey trap where can make themselves subject to blackmail. Including a royal and a former president.
FBI Hires Top-Rated Italian Bodyguard Hiluigi Clintonelli To Protect Ghislaine Maxwell
(If she survives the Arkancide) it will be interesting to see how this goes.
In her favor: She's a woman therefore she was obviously, don't ya know, the victim of a man -- Epstein. A female MeToo is going to be a bit perplexing to the Rapey Set.
Against her: She's rich. Oh yeah, throw White in there too.
“If [Ghislaine] Maxwell dies in custody, the federal government will take a hit from which it may never recover...."
Jesus, think about that line and what it says about how the governed perceive the government.
And then, because you can never be too contemptuous and incompetent, have one of your major political parties run, as their presidential candidate, a man who is clearly sliding into dementia. Those of you who are worrying about future governmental overreach, probably needn’t. The tide goes out from here, whatever they try.
If you want to keep her alive, just give her the death penalty. Nothing better guarantees a long life.
Start writing the obituary now. Barr will let her get killed like he has been told to.
...and since everything is about Trump, let the think pieces about who she set up Trump to schtup. Hillary will tweet about how disgusting Donald is...
...and then Maxwell will die of an aneurysm.
Two weeks, tops.
"The federal government will take a hit from which it may never recover..."
WILL take a hit? Epstein was murdered while in federal protective custody in full view of the WORLD. And nobody in power has been held accountable--and nobody will be. The moment Maxwell's arrest was announced, the jokes and memes about her imminent suicide began.
We already live in a banana republic with a two-tiered "justice" system where the gangsters running the state are above the law that mere deplorables are still held to. Whether Maxwell commits "suicide" or contracts COVID-19 and dies, or suffers from a sudden, fatal allergic reaction to something...I fully expect her to die before she can name names. The jokes and memes about her are really more like gallows humor.
I already sent condolences to Ms Maxwells family on her impending suicide.
From Professor Althouse's favoritest web site.
I don't believe anything in the media. Lots of wish casting. I wish too, but right now facts are non existent.
"If [Ghislaine] Maxwell dies in custody, the federal government will take a hit from which it may never recover...." Fool. Clinton's emails prove the opposite: always erase the evidence.
It's the only thing that works.
You know what's really sad about this? I'll tell yah what's really sad about this. It's not just that quite a few men in power have a taste for underage girls. That's a not unheard of male perversion, to say the least. What's really sad about this is that these men of high position & power didn't understand that what they were doing on Epstein's island was incredibly compromising to their careers, and I mean compromising! This wasn't just any run of the mill illicit fuck on the side. This, if the truth came out, was a certain career ender & divorce where the wifey toke you to the cleaners in court & very likely jail time.
Did these men not ever consider what power Epstein would have over them if he was taping them? Where did Epstein get his money? Did they never consider that it may have been through blackmail or that he was selling proof of these dalliances to hostile intelligence agencies?
I'm sorry, but these are the sort of questions an intelligent 15 year old kid would ask after watching a James Bond marathon! But, men of such position and accomplishment? We really are being ruled by utter fools!
Am I missing something?
Shouldn’t the Richard Epstein tag be Jeffrey Epstein?
Our hostess might even be acquainted with Richard Epstein, but I’m guessing not-so-much with Jeffrey!
Must be more than the several oft mentioned "survivors". Disappointing if no video, evidence of blackmail, wire transfers ,Mossad intelligence reports, emails, texts or any actual substantial evidence is lacking.
The Big Names at risk facing potential criminal prosecution, or simple embarrassment?
"If [Ghislaine] Maxwell dies in custody, the federal government will take a hit from which it may never recover...."
It would be nice to think that, but we're seeing evidence that a sitting president and vice president directed the FBI to go after his successor, and the media and the establishment R's have been sitting on that quite politely.
This is going to be a rage election.
True that!
What's really sad about this is that these men of high position & power didn't understand that what they were doing on Epstein's island was incredibly compromising
They may have been promised or expected social progress that was never realized.
Althouse's favoritest web site.
The fact checkers who check the fact checkers.
Jeffrey Epstein flight log listing the passengers who flew on Pedophile One:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EpsteinAndFriends/comments/emvk4c/list_of_names_for_the_epstein_flight_logs/
Sort of surprised to see Tom Hanks on the list, but not really. He is Hollywood's leading hypocrite.
What's really sad about this is that these men of high position & power didn't understand that what they were doing on Epstein's island was incredibly compromising to their careers, and I mean compromising!
No, these people were certain they were immune to the law and public criticism. I am not sure they were wrong. We will see.
well they cleaned up those files and other documentation, when they were at the virgin islands mansion,
YoungHegelian: Did these men not ever consider what power Epstein would have over them if he was taping them?
I'm inclined to believe that Epstein's appeal was something like: "you can trust me, all your friends do!" He (and Ms. Maxwell) certainly excelled at creating a façade of legitimacy.
“ Did you know that Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's father, was a notorious Mossad agent lionized by Yitzhak Shamir at his funeral? Most people don't.”
Friend who was in Israeli military intelligence, before he immigrated here, has seen the plaque for Maxwell, among others who have died in the service of Israeli intelligence. Mossad is notoriously a family business, so I think it more likely than not that his favorite child, Ghislaine, followed him into the business. This might help explain where Epstein’s money came from, and maybe why he had more protection than maybe he should, if it were only through blackmail, and esp the sweetheart deal he got in FL, when USA Acosta backed off from federal prosecution. That would probably make her his handler, and not the other way around.
Eric Trump Deletes Tweet of Bill Clinton With Ghislaine Maxwell After Twitter Buries Him With Photos of Her With His Father
Why is it that Trumpists are in denial about the friendship of Trump with Epstein and Maxwell? If Maxwell thinks she can help her situation, a lot of powerful men INCLUDING Trump could be in trouble. Don’t worry Barr is on top of it.
The coronavirus has mutated into a form that is specially dangerous for Maxwell. I hear the newly mutated virus can kill you in multiple ways: (1) it can fill your lung with fluid, especially bottled water, shower water, toilet water, and even hand lotion; (2) it can kill you with a thrown clot, like the kind you develop when head is snapped forward by an inmate, or if you get hit in the head with a blunt intrument; (3) it destroy your red blood cells, kind of like can happen with a rattlesnake you find in your bed.
I hear the new viruses can even cause you to commit suicide.
"The entire house — every room, every bed, every bathroom, shower and toilet — was rigged with cameras and audio. Epstein kept a secret room full of monitors and watched his guests in real time. He blackmailed the powerful men who would visit and use his girls."
This sounds an awful lot like the story of the Trump "pee tape." It could be true, should be true, must be true; but when was the last time tapes like these were actually produced incriminating any of the rich and famous?
Just as most of us know enough not to write an email we wouldn't want printed in the newspaper, these guys know how not to do things in places where they can be caught on tape.
I keep thinking if she was really so dangerous to these powerful men - she would have been killed already?
YoungHegalian:
Great point. Maybe they thought they were too big to blackmail. Given what happened to Epstein, they might just pull it off. I think Maxwell will survive after outing a few small fish with a fat name. My swag is Andy and Bill are safe. Maybe Dersh?
I keep thinking if she was really so dangerous to these powerful men - she would have been killed already?
A video editor's life is not an easy one.
WHOA! "Richard Epstein"?????
HUGE OWN GOAL THERE.
She's not going to commit suicide she's going to get covid and die
FBI hires bodyguard... well that's reassuring. Almost as comforting as Epstein being placed on "Suicide watch". Which might have worked, if they'd put another person in Epstein's cell, turned on the video cameras, or checked on him every hour like they were supposed to.
And yes, her father was a sleazy well connected crook who amazed power and honors, while looting a companies pension plan and other crimes before committing "suicide" by falling overboard.
mezzrow said...
Perhaps everything that has happened to date in 2020 is designed to distract us from what Ghislaine Maxwell knows. Perhaps.
7/3/20, 4:07 PM
Flooding the world with insane violent crises is a great way to get more Americans based and redpilled. At that point, even the loonier Infowars theories not only make sense, but actually become too optimistic for many. I think it's simply the contradictions at the core of identity politics unraveling themselves, combined with people who are overconfident about their ability to pull off a Color Revolution.
One thing you need to realize is that the kind of men Epstein went against are themselves powerful. Yes, he can threaten to leak the tapes, but they have the resources to hire a lot of mercenaries, federal officials- or assassins, as it turns out. The masters of the universe are confident that they run the universe, so they think consequences are for little people.
As names from John Bolton on down to Jeff Epstein realize, that's not entirely true.
I don't know which candidate will prevail in November, but there are going to be a lot of voters who are seriously fed up when they hit the polling place.
****
And how - I am writing in No. 6 this year. Vote No. 6!
The Maxwell family were pros working All their lives for MI6 and the New World Order CIA guys from Bush One through Obama. They ran the blackmail and extortion department that controlled the men they placed in their high positions running the world. And the Bad Orange Man has brought them all crashing down. Nice work President Trump and General Q. Best damn move ever seen.
If you’re a powerful man, and a creep, you can find legal 18 year olds who look young enough.
I really don’t care about these powerful men’s fears.
"rigged" Ha, that's a Trumpism.
Why is it that Trumpists are in denial about the friendship of Trump with Epstein and Maxwell?
Because it's a lie. You have lied so much here that I feel no need to respond but we know he threw Epstein out of Mar a Lago. You are so stupid that you still believe the Russia Hoax.
Inga said... Why is it that Trumpists are in denial about the friendship of Trump with Epstein and Maxwell? If Maxwell thinks she can help her situation, a lot of powerful men INCLUDING Trump could be in trouble. Don’t worry Barr is on top of it.
Maybe our resident Bedpan Commando can tell us the story about Trump kicking Epstein out of Mar-A-Lago in 2011.
Google it. If the words are too big for you, I can help you.
cubanbob said...
It's amazing how so many smart, wealthy, powerful and accomplished men would be so foolish to fall into a honey trap where can make themselves subject to blackmail. Including a royal and a former president.
What this suggests to me is that the procuring of young women, or of women generally, or maybe even of very special women etc., is so usual a perk among this set that the notion of attached blackmail was not foreseen. Most of their panderers would probably never dream of doing such a dishonorable thing! 🙄
If [Ghislaine] Maxwell dies in custody, the federal government will take a hit from which it may never recover....
That's beyond hyperbolic. Witness the collective shrug when Epstein himself died in custody. If Maxwell commits suicide, through an amazing series of coincidences in which a dozen people decided to do something other than their job that day, the response from government and media will be another collective shrug. Lady killed herself. What can you do?
There have been far, far worse scandals in the last two decades and the federal government recovered nicely, thank you very much.
“And how - I am writing in No. 6 this year. Vote No. 6!”
Coincidentally, I bought that t-shirt a couple of days ago. Preference cascade, surely.
Looks like the dems internal polls have turned even worse than we thought a few weeks back:
"Biden Says We Should 'Protect' Columbus, Washington and Jefferson Statues"
Hard to believe the democrats really thought everyone actually believed their lies about just wanting to remove confederate monuments when the reality was clear to pretty much everyone that they simply want to completely destroy the American story and rewrite it with their own Pol Pot-like Year Zero effort.
But then again, as with Inga's lunacy above about a fictional "friendship" between Epstein and Trump, the dems are just going to move from one conspiracy/lunatic belief to another at the direction of those running the operation.
I am still waiting for the release of documentation connecting Jimmy Carter's brother to serial killer Gacy. Jimmy and Rosalyn have long been suspected of being aware of Billy's connection and participation in the murders. Un named sources who are not allowed to speak publicly as well as people familiar with Jimmy Carter's thinking have long maintained that revelation of the cover-up would damage United States reputation to such a degree that the CIA and FBI have sealed the records in secret locations. Additionally, Billy Beer was taken off the market after a short period of time due to connection to Gacy.
"Rosalynn Carter and John Wayne Gacy. In 1975 First Lady of the United States Rosalynn Carter was photographed with serial killer John Wayne Gacy Jr., who was later convicted of the murders of 33 teenage boys, who he buried in his basement, until it became too full, at which point he began throwing the bodies off a bridge. "
I wonder how many successful conspiracies there have been throughout history. If treason is successful, none dare call it treason. If conspiracies are successful, you never know about them....You just know there was some kind of conspiracy with Ghislaine and Epstein and that it was played for higher stakes than just sex. In that regard, it's not a successful conspiracy.... Ghislaine will take a lot of secrets to her grave. There's not much point in her telling the truth and, even if she did, would you believe her? She might reveal a few truths, but everything she says will be self serving....I don't think she can reveal anything that will buy her a get out of jail card, so what would be the point in telling everything.
Go easy on Inga. She is auditioning for the contrarian panelist on The Five. None of the ones FOX has tried tried so far can stand up to Greg Gutfield and Jesse Waters. I bet our Inga could stump them Both until they end up have a break down on the air. Go Inga , go.
Maybe the conspiracy was to make Americans think that the people, both Democrat and Republican, who controlled the levers of government were secret pedos and subject to blackmail......Harvey Weinstein was an open secret and an open sore in Hollywood. You can't really say there was a conspiracy to protect him. I guess you can get away with it if people let you get away with it. That might have been why Epstein got away with it. Nobody gave a damn....I still can't figure out why they gave Polanski a standing ovation at the Oscars. What does Polanski know about those people that caused them to jump from their seats in fervent joy?
Agree with Narcisso @ 5:54. The "evidence" was captured despite Epstein's death. Why haven't we heard anything about it? The only evidence that cannot be controlled is that from Maxwell's own mouth. But that too will change. And with little to no repercussion except a little grumbling from the crowd.
I bet our Inga could stump them Both until they end up have a break down on the air. Go Inga , go.
She could empty the bedpan for Juan.
William: "still can't figure out why they gave Polanski a standing ovation at the Oscars."
To this day Inga denies they did that.
Didn't a close friend of Ron Burkle and Bill Clinton (frequent fliers on the Lolita Express) just take a dive off a LA skyscraper? Wonder if he got a call from Ghislane about her immanent arrest. Suicide seems to be the preferred way of dealing with Clinton MeToo# issues. Deep States protect their own, even while they seem incapable of protecting the nation-states in which they are imbedded (Mosssad excepted, of course).
Hard to believe dopey McGropey/Sniffer "kids on my lap" Boldfinger Biden wouldn't have gotten some of that fine Epstein action.
I mean, funnel some of those illicit foreign Biden Inc $$ to grease the s(k)ids.
He got blonde leg hairs, man!
No joke!
The former Epstein attorney highlights that he never saw Maxwell do anything “inappropriate” and that he often saw her in the presence of high-profile figures, such as former President Bill Clinton.
He warned that many in the public may view Maxwell unfavorably due to the recent Netflix documentary “Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich,” which he heavily criticized.
WATCH:
“No one should believe anything they saw in that series, because it was based largely on the accounts of two women with histories of making dubious accusations,” he said, referring to Giuffre and Epstein accuser Sarah Ransome.
Dershowitz wrote that though he provided the production with information disproving aspects of Giuffre and Ransome’s accusations, the documentary did not include this information because “they did not want their viewers to see anything that challenged the credibility of the lying witnesses who were central to their one-sided narrative.”
https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/03/alan-dershowitz-urges-everyone-to-keep-an-open-mind-about-alleged-epstein-madam-ghislaine-maxwell/
A Richard Epstein tag? Is there something you haven't told us, Ann?
I am still waiting for the release of documentation connecting Jimmy Carter's brother to serial killer Gacy. Jimmy and Rosalyn have long been suspected of being aware of Billy's connection
Moonie, I love you. I can beat you at full retard. Don't ever go full retard.
Ir's sure to be messy. Even the British Royal Family™, never the smartest people in any room, pre-emptively declared Prince Andrew a former person earlier this year.
2020 - With four times the Year Zero power of other nations, America takes the lead again. Defund the Police - Leading Candidate for Year Zero Best Policy Proposal.
Ghislaine Maxwell - Leading Candidate Year Zero Arrest of the Year. (to be continued as Year Zero Suicide of the Year).
Joe Biden - Leading Candidate for the Most Zero Year Zero Candidate. (Runner-up - his VP choice - Wanted: An unknown, inexperienced woman-victim to lead the most powerful nation on earth through riots, pandemics and associated economic disasters to the Year Zero Promised Land of Much Better while continuously insulting and promising to degrade the most powerful and best-armed group in the country as the means of progress.)
Leading Candidate for Year Zero Sports Event of the Year - The NFL opens the season by playing the Black National Anthem to an empty stadium filled with cardboard cut-outs of people and closes the season 15 minutes later amid disputes over whether the cardboard people should have been wearing masks, whether they should have stood up, what Kaepernicke meant by running onto the field an taking a knee and whether the Packers won the Super Bowl 2020 as well as the season since they ran down the field and scored the season's only touchdown while others were busy with Year Zero selfies. Yet the Bears perhaps won since they respectfully did nothing.
Leading Candidate for Year Zero Mathematical Discovery - You can (and will) multiply by zero if you are a Democrat for the dead do vote.
"The federal government already took a huge hit from Epstein's supposed suicide. It was a damned sight too convenient for too many people in government not named Trump, and waaay too many coincidences concerning monitoring cameras, guard inattention, etc."
-- I always started with, incompetence is the most likely answer. Then the evidence started piling up. And even I, anti-conspiracy theorist that I am, started saying, "Ok, I don't believe it still. But... it's not pants on head crazy."
"Important Men Gone Wild" video available on streaming for $19.99 at the DNC website.
It's amazing how so many smart, wealthy, powerful and accomplished men would be so foolish to fall into a honey trap where can make themselves subject to blackmail. Including a royal and a former president.
A certain former President has dived headlong into a bunch of honey pots, even uninvited, for decades.
Yet he's beloved by millions of feminists.
Men who focus on amassing power for themselves (i.e. politicians) do so not just for the sake of power but because power is a route to sex and money--and it's the easiest route for many.
I suspect this will turn out to be a nothingburger, in the sense of punishment for alleged crimes. Some big name people will be exposed and embarrassed, but everyone reading this will be dead of old age before anyone gets so much as prosecuted.
And wealthy powerful men will continue dicking whoever they like.
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Speaking as a historian
I don't get it. If comments are moderated, e.g. read by Ann, why did Ann not correct the Richard Epstein tag?
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what about a historian of this moment, in which our intelligence agencies alongside those of our allies run some weird fucking operation like whatever the fuck Epstein was? Because, as a big picture historian, yeah. Chicks dig power, guys dig chicks. But if this guy is running operations for US and/or close ally spooks, and got murdered instead of suiciding, this is a bit more interesting, right? Like, for the ages, deserves a sonnet or a play or both.
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