Madness Penny Lane Defaced 😡 pic.twitter.com/IARaqO9zcP
— 🔥🔴David McGrady🔥🔴 (@Djmc76) June 12, 2020
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"We've researched it and it has nothing to do with slavery. James Penny was a slave trader, but he had nothing to do with the Penny Lane area."
Says a Liverpool tour guide, quoted in "The Beatles 'Penny Lane' Controversy, Explained/The street the song is named after has come under fire for a potential link to a slave trader" (radio.com).
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And you know that the Leftists responsible hate the memory of slavery and slaveowners because they are just SO pro-freedom!
The protestors speak truth to facts. That said, diversity (i.e. color judgments) breeds adversity.
Every single prosperous African born before 1900 was either involved in or supported the slave trade.
Most Middle Easterners as well.
When those statues come down in those countries, then we can talk.
Also maybe there should be a law against naming your child after a supporter of slavery.
See where this is leading?
So? The name makes me feel bad, so facts don't matter.
Slightly O/T, but relevant to the unrest.....
The bad news is that Raz from the Chaz is handing out AR-15s in the Chaz. Someone must have bought those ahead of time because there are none available......anywhere.
The good news is you can't buy ammo in the city of the Seattle, and all the popular calibers are back-ordered. If those morons have more than 300 rounds of ammunition........unless someone was thinking ahead.
Do you suppose normal people are beginning to think it's all too much?
Madness, yet not mad: progs mean to erase culture and history, the better to fill the blank slate.
Every conqueror knows that immediately following a conquest all the old history must be erased and begun anew. It's inconsequential that one element has nothing to do with another, it all must be destroyed in the end anyway.
At any rate, The Beatles co-opted black culture. They were clearly just another group of white, male oppressors that are part of a greater system of white oppression going back centuries. They must be cleansed.
Everything is about The Special People Club.
Time to cancel all descendants of blacks who sold slaves to the Europeans.
Yes Jon, I hear them saying it.
Let's see if McCartney takes a knee and apologizes.
Was Lois Lane involved in the slave trade?
My suggestion is to replace all Confederate General's Monuments with a U. S. Grant monument Or if there are several next to each other, then replace them using the list starting with Wm. T Sherman, Phillip Sheridan , and George Thomas. Richmond may need a longer list. As for Jefferson Davis just tear it down.
Exception for Patrick R. Cleburne since he was Warrior Irish.
"war is peace"
"freedom is slavery"
"ignorance is strength" -- George Orwell, 1984
Do you suppose normal people are beginning to think it's all too much?
Interesting question. In my mixed race working class suburb city we had a protest a couple of weeks ago in the city center. About 100 people mostly youngish and about even split white and black. Almost no Hispanics or Asians (two sizable minorities in my town). People holding up homemade cardboard signs supporting BLM, etc.
This week there were about 5-7 old hippies holding up a bedsheet: "White Silence = Violence".
I don't know what that means but I found it interesting.
It's funny to see these accusations: R A C I S T
The person who defaced property to paint that, to demonstrate his or her superior value, actually displays no value at all. Merely destruction, a negative quality; and stupidity, if the connection on Penny is indeed erroneous.
It is our society's own stupidity that it bestows the least bit of interest upon such a person, beyond a 6-month jail sentence for defacing property.
mad: progs mean to erase culture and history
and lives for the sake of social progress. #WickedSolution
Found after a two minute search with Google Books:
“The names of Penny Lane and Penketh bear testimony to conflict, K. pinn-nidh, pinnkeit, both signifying battle-hill. The names of Penketh and Penny are of frequent occurence on the ordnance survey.” [K. stands for Kymric, I suppose]
- Joseph Boult, ‘Gleanings in the Early History of Liverpool and the Neighbourhood’ in Proceedings of the Liverpool Literary and Philosophical Society, Volume 30 (1876).
Jon Ericson
No. Not unless you define normal tautologically. 27% say they support defunding police and majorities support aggressive protests. That might change as reality bites, but for now AOC is the ideal for half the country
Though we feel as if we're in a play, we are anyway.
madAsHell
Someone needs to ask Joe Biden about gun control. And confiscation.
LOL! Well, that's what you get when you decide -stupidly - that "Racism" is the worst thing in the world, ever, ever. I wonder how many Americans or Englishmen, would jump off a cliff if you told them it would stop "racism". What a bunch of nuts.
Of course, people shouldn't be defacing street signs, even if they DID have something to do with slavery.
Every time one of these absurdities is aired, the light bulb must pop on for a few thousand of even the most brain-dead Progs. Never have so many Lefties campaigned for a Republican President.
Ah, so violent AND ignorant! Carry on.
It took me quite a while to understand it, but now I grasp why some people prefer dictators and strongmen. Having no freedoms or rights other than what one man tells you is most certainly preferable to an unstable democracy full of lunatics, psychopaths, thugs, and wild-eyed idealists. Stability does have its charms.
So, not the same Penny. But somewhere there are white supremacists (and Russians, too, most likely) celebrating the slaveholder Penny with this song.
BLM should demand McCartney rewrite 'Penny Lane' to 'George Floyd Lane' right away. It can be all about the violence perpetrated on Liverpool by the local constabulary. All streaming services should delete 'Penny Lane' right away.
If McCartney refuses, that means he's a racist.
What a relief!
Now let's move onto Yale and Brown. Both were named after real slave traders.
Yale should become Floyd University. Brown should become Black Lives Matter University.
I'm sure the lady who hasn't met Churchill personally has been mentioned during moderation.
I like the black activist who can't decide if Churchill's statue should, be removed be cause She "hasn't met him."
Rule by idiots is well on its away.
Paul McCartney now must be considered an enemy of the people for writing a song that extolls nice things about an evilly named street. Even though he, like just about every other performing artist, stumbled over themselves in paying fealty to this movement recently, means he must be purged from the history books. Also, his and The Beatles’ vinyl records, their CD’s, and any digital device with their music on it (particularly “Penny Lane”) must be physically destroyed and his and The Beatles’ music must never be played ever again on the radio, tv, or streaming device. Finally, he must turn over all of his hundreds of millions of dollars as reparations from these ill-gotten gains to this movement to pay for his sins. Otherwise, all of these offended people will feel physically threatened and their heads will explode.
I, for one, plan on driving around in my car with Penny Lane blasting from the car stereo, in order to introduce the horrified millennials to actual quality music, not the garbage put out today as modern pop music that they listen to...
These twits who are calling everyone and everything racist and want to “erase” our history, good and bad, probably never were taught by their history teachers in high school or college about past events at censoring books, music, and art. Their heads will explode when they find out that what they are doing and attempting to do are exactly what the Nazi Germans did in the 1930’s! That is because they are fascists themselves. Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It...
The mob wants what it wants, or else it doesn't care..."
digging for racism. we're cleaning the present and the future, but the past must be purged.
bulldozed.
It's reached extortion level fever. Now the extortionists are acting like the KKK.
Well, at least they are making it clear that nothing anyone does will ever be sufficient.
If we erase history, will that change anything? other than edging closer to corruptocrat-idiocracy.
Again..
"Derek Chauvin was a racist cop, a registered Democrat, working for a Democrat Police Chief, voted into office by Democrat voters, in a Democrat controlled city, in a Democrat controlled state. Protected by a Democrat controlled union.
He had 18 complaints against him and was let off multiple times by Democrat prosecutor, now Democrat Senator and failed Democrat presidential candidate Amy Klobuchar.
But somehow it's all Trump's fault?"
Why are we not erasing the democrat party?
It's STILL the name of a slave trader isn't it? Who gives a flying f*ck if they named the Lane for a guy named Penny who WASN'T a slavetrader! If they told you Robert E. Lee High School was named after a different Robert E. Lee would that make it OK? They've all got to go!
“Protesters” AKA looters, rioters are dumb as a box of rocks.
I am sick of them and their BS stupidity!
Stop the madness before it consumes all.
That's ok, the protest have nothing to do with slavery and racism either. They are about debasing western cultures, so that the related countries will move towards socialism or at least fail to eastern socialist countries.
One of the more vexing aspects of 21st century Progressivism is its imperviousness to facts and reality. It’s pretty bad in the US of A, and worse in the UK.
"Ignorance is Strength" said some wise English writer in the 1940's. Probably was a ray-sist, so no need to know his name, by George.
There is a sad little scene in an old movie about teens growing up, where an innocent girl, seduced by a minor rock star she idloized, goes to the health center. She finds out she's not only pregnant but has gonnorhea. And as she staggers away from the front desk in mental anguish, she knocks over a stack of paper and several chairs.
The seen-it-all nurse behind the counter shakes her head, and laments, "Knocked up, got the clap, and clumsy, too. Mmmm, hmmm."
I feel that way about a lot of the recent protesters who miss the target of unprincipled racism, and instead headbutt simple history, leaving themselves with a concussion.
It was a peaceful act!
So, maybe nothing to do with slavery, but there is a COVID-19 spreading barber, a capitalist banker, and some white racist fireman running in from the rain. Change the name now, or better just raze the street down to the dirt.
Speaking of Robert E. Lee... Did any protesters wear Lee jeans? If so, they are in big trouble with INGSOC/BLM/ANTIFA.
"Derek Chauvin was a racist cop, a registered Democrat... "
Dare I ask the questions that I've heard no one address:
-Was there anything he said or did that day that indicated he had racial intent/malice?
-Is there documentation of him previously voicing racist sentiment?
I'm not saying that the act of killing my Floyd was excusable. It was abhorrent. But is the only indication of racism the fact that he was white and Mr. Floyd was black?
Just wait until they hear “Happiness is a Warm Gun”.
Or as the commenter above points out, the history of the Democratic Party.
I blame the educational system, which, decade after decade, has churned out young people who lack the ability to think and also lack the basic storehouse of knowledge required to understand and appreciate the culture they live in.
in other news
https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/06/15/surgisphere-company-behind-retracted-hydroxychloroquine-study-no/
This week there were about 5-7 old hippies holding up a bedsheet: "White Silence = Violence".
I don't know what that means but I found it interesting.
I think it means that if you're normal, and are waiting for this lefty molehill to blow over, you are committing violence.
Also, one must accuse anyone not agreeing with this whole enchilada of being a violent racist.
As long as we are playing on the home field of the crazies there is no chance of winning. There's an endless supply of idiocy on that side. The marching band refuses to yield.
Either the Republicans win the Senate, House, and POTUS, or it's bye bye Miss American Pie.
"Also maybe there should be a law against naming your child after a supporter of slavery."
Man, there are a lot of Muhammeds out there. What about Muhammad Ali? Changed his name from one honoring an abolitionist to a one honoring possibly the greatest slavery advocate all time and a culture that still practices it today.
"The Enslaved People Who Lived on Joel Lane’s Plantation"
Maybe Mr. Lane is the excuse for the anti-white racist vandalism.
Some commenters will have to deny the steady descent on this greased decline.
The same thing happened when they protested the White Hispanic, and progressed to target people, who were unrelated to the brown man, at their homes and businesses. Today, their witch hunts and warlock judgments are sustained under their doctrine of diversity and exclusion, and social justice.
Thank god 'Penny Lane' wasn't on The White Album!
I watched a old movie over the weekend. "The Mortal Storm". Maybe I'm not well cultured, but I never heard of this movie, and it was fascinating. Put out in 1940, staring Jimmy Stewart and many other greats. It was set in Germany soon after Hitler came to power, and portrayed the struggles and destruction of a family by the Nazis and the conflict created by some family members being anti-Nazi and some joining up. I was surprised how much the movie portrayed the evils that I thought were not well known until later.
The way opinions and even scientific facts and theories became grounds for destroying and even killing people who were formerly respected was so apropos of current events, it was spooky.
The "anti-fascists" of today who throw around the terms Nazi and racist so much at their fellow Americans are acting exactly like Nazis did. It's just incredibly myopic of these people. They just don't know anything, even including what they are supposedly all about. Being so stupid is not the problem. Letting them have power over others is.
the history of the Democratic Party
A gun, a noose, diversity and exclusion, too. #HateLovesAbortion
I suppose it is encouraging that some of the young people are starting to take an interest in their civilization's history.
But is the only indication of racism the fact that he was white and Mr. Floyd was black?
6/15/20, 5:28 PM
The policeman wore a body cam but the video is not available. Some technical problem, probably, like with Epstein. The two prison guards in that case, both black, were reprimanded for sleeping on the job. Literally.
"I'm not saying that the act of killing my Floyd was excusable. It was abhorrent."
I would say that the fact of Mr. Floyd's death is arguably unfortunate, although one or more of his victims may see the matter differently. But it is far from evident that someone committed "the act" of killing him. It appears that the exertion and excitement associated with his resisting arrest was more than his constitution could stand up to.
@ 6/15/20, 2:32 PM Jon Ericson said...
Do you suppose normal people are beginning to think it's all too much?
Jon, I don’t know if you were posting an inside joke or were serious with that comment or both, but if it was an inside joke (I saw that as soon as I read it and then looked to see if anyone else did), for those of you who are not familiar with this obscure Beatles’ (actually George Harrison’s) song:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_All_Too_Much
This is not about slavery. And it's not about black lives mattering.
It's not even about racism.
It's about whether they can point a finger at any part of society and make it kneel.
It's about how much power people are going to give them before they say "no more".
Right now our leaders are showing nothing but weakness, so the demands will continue to escalate.
Narciso, that surgisphere thing is another Theranos. I wonder if Mattis is on that board, too?
Hey, Atlanta will be the next town burned down by the idiots.
Won't be the first time.,
Liverpool was the epicenter of the English particpation in the Atlantic Slave Trade. Liverpool captains sailed out of Liverpool with copper and iron bars, and woolen cloth--all popoular amongst the West African chieftains--and traded them for slaves on the West Coast of Africa; then off to the Caribbean for the sugar plantations, or to American for the cotton kingdom, then back to Liverool--carrying rum or sugar or cotton for the textile mills.
Over 5,000 such ships set sail from Liverpool. There's an interesting slavery museum in Liverpool. I quite enjoyed the town and the museums when I visited there a couple of years ago. But I suppose you could deface almost any street or neighborhood in Liverpool. Two hundred and fifty years ago a slaver, or someone who profited from the slave trade lived there.
BUMBLE BEE said...
It was a peaceful act!
It was mostly peaceful. Or my new favorite, overwhelmingly peaceful. The woke need to be more woke. Soon "largely peaceful" will be a tell that the writer is really a reactionary and must be purged for not using "overwhelmingly peaceful."
In a classical music group I belonged to we had a poll, favorite Beatles song. I expected Yesterday or Eleanor Rigby would win, and thought my choice, Penny Lane, would attract few votes. It won handily.
Liverpool.... they took the slaves liver out and sold it in the black market. ;)
Liverpool was definitely a slave port. There are, or were, lots of mixed race British as slavers would reward captives who acted as translators for 2 or 3 voyages and they were freed. Many settled in that area.
Pugsley,
My subconscious put that sentence together for me.
After I posted it, I realized what it had done.
It's All Too Much
[Intro]
It's all too much
It's all too much
[Verse 1]
When I look into your eyes, your love is there for me
And the more I go inside, the more there is to see
[Chorus]
It's all too much for me to take
The love that's shining all around you
Everywhere, it's what you make
For us to take, it's all too much
[Verse 2]
Floating down the stream of time from life to life with me
Makes no difference where you are or where you'd like to be
It's all too much for me to take
The love that's shining all around here
All the world is birthday cake
So take a piece but not too much
[Verse 3]
Sail me on a silver sun, where I know that I'm free
Show me that I'm everywhere, and get me home for tea
It's all to much for me to see
The love that's shining all around here
The more I learn, the less I know
But what I do is all too much
[Chorus]
It's all too much for me to take
The love that's shining all around you
Everywhere, it's what you make
For us to take, it's all too much
[Verse 4]
It's too much
Ah, it's too much
With your long blond hair and your eyes of blue
With your long blond hair and your eyes of blue
You're too much, ah
We all get too much
[Bridge]
Too much, too much, too much
Stalin liked to cancel people too. At random! good times.
Francis Galton, the founder of eugenics, inherited a fortune made largely in the slave trade by his ancestors, the Alloways, the Prankards, the Farmers and his own direct line the Galtons. The Galtons made guns which were an important trade good item in the slave trade in both Bristol and Liverpool. Francis Galton's grandfather was unfriended by the Quakers for making guns and narrowly missed being unfriended for making guns for the slave trade. He then expanded into making guns for selling to the Indians. Galton's father inherited an enormous fortune which he used to start a bank which invested heavily in building Birmingham slum property so that Francis's inheritance increased as the Industrial Revolution got underway. Living on the inheritance Galton did the work that led to his creation of the theory of eugenics. So if our heritage is solely material we can think that Galton's material heritage was came from slave traders, slum-builders, sellers of guns to the Indians, and Quaker hypocrites. Margaret Sanger was a member of the both the English and American eugenics societies. Planned Parenthood has decimated the black community - no surprise since the founder of eugenics supported himself with money made by decimating the black community through the slave trade.
One of Francis Galton's uncles married into the Strutt family which became rich through the invention of the spinning jenny. One of the children of this marriage, one of Francis Galton's cousins, became a Catholic and poured a lot of money into the Birmingham Oratory and its school. His conduit was Father Francis X Morgan, a distant relative, who was JRR Tolkien's benefactor and mentor. It was Father Morgan who got Tolkien into the Oratory school and helped pay for Tolkien's Oxford university education after Tolkien's father and mother died. This education opened up opportunities so that Tolkien got a job teaching at Oxford where he met CS Lewis.
I mention Tolkien and father Morgan and their relation to the Galton's because it shows how you never really know where heredity is going. Different outcomes from the same past.
Shelbey Steele said today over on Ben Domenech's podcast that the problem with American blacks today was not slavery---which none today ever experienced---but the new-found freedoms the civil rights act of the 1960's gave them.
Deprived of valid excuses, they have chosen to cling to grievances that no longer apply.
Diversity (i.e. color judgment), not limited to "race", is a social contagion and, apparently, a progressive pandemic.
So reminiscent of the French Reign of Terror. Bring on the guillotine.
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