“Take the gloves off and put him away,” said one Republican close to the White House. “If you have the cash advantage and you have all of June, why are you not burying him?”I think the answer is obvious, but I will let you go first.
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"'Why are you not burying him?': Trump allies fret over rising Biden threat/Outside advisers and donors want the Trump campaign to unleash more resources quickly to dent Biden’s strength in the polls."
A headline at Politico. From the text:
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We all know Joe will NOT be the nominee. I hate all this pretending that he will be.
Why make it easier for the DNC to replace Biden?
Too dang early, it's the middle of a pandemic and some sort of semblance of normality needs to happen. Also the investigations are GOING to do some real damage to him.
As usual, republican political advisors are pretty crappy compared to the Trumpster himself.
October surprise to the max. People are going DOWN!!!...(including the BIDENS!)
Biden is doing a good job of burying himself. Plus there is all sorts of baggage that will be coming out that the media will be unable to ignore. They will try, but it is too big.
Trump beating up on a senile old man would look bad. Biden is self destructing with out Trump, personally, being the aggressor. Trump has plenty of surrogates for that.
Because Biden isn't the candidate yet. He doesn't have a majority of delegates. Let the Dems have their convention and start putting senile Joe in front of the public. Don't attack Joe until he's the candidate.
Napoleon: “Never interrupt the enemy while he is making a mistake.”
Mike, Mary Beth, Wikitorix — yes.
Other factors not necessarily irrelevant, but you've got to let the Democrats lose their opportunity to swap out Biden for somebody else.
This would have made for a fun poll.
Four thoughts:
1 - hello? we're in the middle of a human-caused disaster of epic proportions. Trump is president. Biden who?
2 - bothering with the total non-entity that is Biden gives credence to his candidacy. Top dog responding to runty runt elevates runty runt's position
3 - if Trump destroys Biden now, the Democrats might be disposed to dump him. Trump WANTS to run against Biden.
4 - team Trump has their their internal polls and they're so good there's just no need to do anything
This isn't a polling thing or something that's going to going to be solved by clever marketing.
About 47% of the country will never, ever, vote for Slo-Joe Biden. About 47% will never, ever, vote for the Evil Cheeto. It's that 6% in the middle that's going to flip it one way or the other.
That 6% right now has had their world turned upside down. If they see their lives get appreciably better & "normality" more or less returns, Trump will win. If their lives go even more to shit, then Slo-Joe has a chance as maybe a better way forward through the darkness.
The 6% is looking for results. They're looking for money in their pocket & beef being affordable again.** What they're looking for no political consultant can sell them.
** I don't know what it's like where you guys are, but here in the DC suburbs, the price of beef is just outrageous. Pork & chicken went up, but even ground beef is at luxury prices.
Bury him before the convention, and he can be replaced. Trump is betting that Biden's illness is farther advanced than is realized, and that once he leaves home and hits the campaign trail, it will become impossible to ignore.
Althouse: "Other factors not necessarily irrelevant, but you've got to let the Democrats lose their opportunity to swap out Biden for somebody else."
Oh, they'll still do it, but later (post-convention or even at the convention) presents many more problems for the democraticalists.
this is the same politico, who continued to lie about grenell, after he corrected the record,
Never murder a man committing suicide.
Other possible reasons:
1. Are the polls correct? If they are, how and why did they suddenly become accurate?
2. Don't spend media dollars when they are ineffective. There is too much other competing noise media right now. Besides, the way the COVID crunch has played out, Trump is already structurally positioned to let the blue state's kill themselves at the expense of his target voters, without having to spend an extra dime.
3. As between Trump and the so called Outside Advisers (whoever they are), who is the most savvy? The most expert? The proven expert?
The concern trolling by the MSM is touching. I'm sure they really care about Trump winning this race.
Well nobody's paying any attention it's still May an ADHD soundbite social media gotcha economy of the mind. They don't fire the finale at the start of a fireworks show. I'm sure someone can come up with some other metaphorical simile
How can the DNC replace Biden when he is so far ahead in the fake polls?
We all know Joe will NOT be the nominee. I hate all this pretending that he will be.
Yes. Numerous Althousians have been saying this since 2019, though given the magnitude of the charades we been expected to go along with, this one seems mild...
I suppose if there were some slim chance they're actually planning to go with Joe, an alternative response is Don't interrupt when your opponent is making a mistake.
@Ann - Oldest political rule in the book: If your opponent is digging himself into a hole, hand him and shovel and stand out of the way.
-XC
Isn't that from the art of war: don't interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake?
I hate their use of anonymous "sources". Why hide the identity of "one Republican close to the White House"? That person's not going to get into trouble for saying this.
It used to be, back around Watergate, that anonymous sourcing had to be approved by the editor. There was a serious discussion in journalism about the ethics of it.
Frankly, we shouldn't even call it "journalism" anymore. It's too high-falutin' a word. They're reporters. Or scum. Whichever you prefer.
The problem is not that Biden is OK in the polls. (RCP average = 47.7%)
Rather, the problem is that Trump is low in the polls. (RCP average = 42.4%)
About 10% of the electorate still is undecided. The problem is to get most of that portion to vote ultimately for Trump.
Bury him after 33% of the electoral votes are committed to Biden on the ballot. Let the Torricelli option deliver a plurality of EVs to Trump, and the Dems House re-elect Trump (due to the one state, one vote provision).
Oh, forgot the 'buy futures in bio waste cleanup' for when the heads explode.
Plus Trump has all the inside information on what will becoming out, on Biden et al.
Because
- Polls are crap
- He will bury himself faster on his own. Just let the guy talk AND it will be a sight to see, Biden and Trump on a debate stage!
- Let Biden hang in there as long as possible to have his effect on the Dems so that when they pull out the ringer everyone that wanted someone else will have less time to get over the disappointment.
- The entire Dem bench is junk. Trump can handle whatever they have or think they have. Who they going to draft? Opra? M. Obama? They got nothing. All the fighting is over the VP slot, that is who Trump is actually running against.
Because Biden isn't the candidate yet. He doesn't have a majority of delegates.
I don't possess a paranoia intense enough to believe the pandemic was fabricated to provide Democrats cover for skipping the dog and pony primaries but you'd have to give them a hat tip for pulling it off if they did.
Bury him after 33% of the EVs (however many states that takes) have passed the ballot access date (to make the Torrecelli option as unlikely as possible to pull off). Then Trump gets a plurality of EVs, and Pelosi presides over a Trump re-election in a Democrat House (due to one state, one vote provision).
Forgot the 'Buy futures in bio waste clean up' firms due to exploding heads.
"Never interfere with an enemy while he’s in the process of destroying himself" - Napoleon
Right now my personal theory is:
* Biden nominates someone who checks off enough grievance boxes: Harris
* Biden then steps down due to health
* Bernie Bros will throw a tantrum, but the DNC will hold firm
* Harris nominates Buttigieg as running mate (more grievance boxes checked off)
Pretty much the perfect solution for the DNC. You marginalize the Bernie Bros, you get a woman on the top of the ticket again, and you also get a gay marriage thrown in as a bonus. Plus, the Dems only win when they nominate young, fresh faces. A Harris / Buttigieg ticket fills the bill.
Why unload on him until he's grabbed the brass ring (nomination)? He knows Slow Joe will be a piñata in the general election. And, darn it, Biden is such a lout, I would miss his public buffoonery. Let's keep him around as long as possible.
Never stop an opponent(s) when they're in the middle of making a mistake(s). Let their fuck ups continue unabated.
Ann, Ann, Ann The Dems can nominate Joe, run the campaign out to the last week and replace him. We all know the rules don’t apply to Democrats.
The previous commenters are correct in saying that Biden is not the candidate yet. To spend down the war chest against a "wanna be" and then be underfunded for the main event is the political equivalent of being "rope-a-doped."
Biden is awful and Trump should not push him out too soon.
I don’t believe that Biden actually has a lead. 2016 should have told you all need to know about polls.
Trump beating up on a senile old man would look bad. Biden is self destructing with out Trump, personally, being the aggressor. Trump has plenty of surrogates for that.
http://www.nvcrack.com/category/graphics-designing-tool/
I wish Trump had dealt with this properly, but he did not. He had an opportunity to turn the pandemic to his political advantage, and he squandered it. All he needed to do was act presidential at his press conferences. Not treat it as a campaign rally, not fight with the press. Just act normal. When the press asked their vicious questions, to just deflect and say, Some of us are trying to deal with the pandemic, and we don't have time right now for this vicious nonsense: next question!
It doesn't seem like he is able to stop himself, and it's a pity.
Summary: Timing is everything.
I haven't yet read the other comments, but the obvious answer is that Biden is only the presumptive Democrat nominee for president. He has not clinched enough delegates yet to actually be the nominee, even though the other Democrat candidates have suspended their campaigns. Biden is a candidate with more weaknesses than strength, and there is still time for Democrat buyers' remorse to come to the fore at the Democrat convention if it looks like Biden is a sure loser. Once Biden is officially the candidate after the convention is over, THAT is the time to hit Biden with all of the various commercials that will make Biden an impossible choice for anyone who isn't a yellow dog Democrat.
Ann: Yes, exactly. The article is stupid and classic unnamed sources play into the tired narrative of "Trump isn't doing the right thing."
I would like to see a journalism investigative body actually research a representative sample of stories using unnamed sources and see if they can re-create the narrative pushed or verify that the article wasn't created wholecloth.
This is the same narrative that has been pushed at Trump for 3.5 years and yet somehow he keeps delivering fairly good outcomes.
P.s. Ann would like to see you view the video of Brian Sims, a PA congressman, going OFF about what came out today via facebook live. I'd like to hear what you identify is missing, and what assumed, in his tirade. I genuinely can't tell if it's masterful theater or he's really lost his shit.
"said one Republican close to the White House"
That is, they were standing a half-block away from the White House when they said it.
Biden is self-destructing. There's no need for Trump to push him down.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
Napoleon Bonaparte
This will be an unusually good Althouse post to bookmark for November 4.
America loves come back stories.
Biden must be buried but not until late October. We saw how fast the media jumped in and saved him in primary. Bury him now and he’ll either make an awesome come back or you’ll take him out too soon and end up with a completely different and potentially stronger opponent.
Tweaking Ann’s post a little:
“Other factors not necessarily irrelevant, but you've got to let the Democrats lose their opportunity to EASILY swap out Biden for somebody else.”
A lot of us don’t believe that China Joe Biden can be dragged up the driveway and through the front doors of the White House. But the later they make the swap, the better probably for Trump and the Republicans. The hope, I think, is that they don’t try the switch until after their convention, because, as we saw with Torricelli, it’s going to take some cheating to pull it off. And that probably isn’t going to look pretty. Moreover, the longer they wait to do it, the less time they will have to sell their new candidate, and sell the country why they should vote for her, instead of Trump. Because, absent that, mostly what they would have is the anti-Trump vote, and those voters are not as enthusiastic voters as those voting for a candidate.
I'm late, but I see my thinking aligns with the accepted answer. Then again, I posted long ago on the Biden allegations that it is a win/win that the #MeToo movement has abandoned its purpose and for the sake of assuring Biden gets the nomination. Biden's good for Trump, and Politico's advice to Trump is bad.
I thought Althouse might have a tag related to her previous post about Trump's adversaries getting tired of giving Trump advise.
I haven't read the comments above, on purpose.
Trump is following the advice of Napoleon Bonaparte, "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.".
It is unwise to question or challenge Trump's instincts, he's very good at this sort of thing. He may also be getting different data from the internal polls.
I think it also worth Trump staying silent so ordinary people can see how much the Press is covering up for Biden. Somehow these verbal miscues aren't lies as they would be if Trump said them, and they're not catalogued.
The decider isn't whether Trump attacks Biden. It's whether swing voters are mad at Trump about pandemic outcomes.
If, in November -
- voters generally feel like things are okay
- and they tend to blame whatever failures on their local governments
Then nothing else matters. Trump wins.
The only way Trump loses this election is if people feel like things are crappy in November, and they blame the feds.
Trump is smart to encourage local governments to make their own decisions, rather than make his administration responsible for all the outcomes all day every day. He's smart to let Biden marinate in his own powerlessness to change that national conversation in any meaningful way.
And Trump knows that he's already lost the blue states anyway. It's not like any federal policy he did put forward would garner him any votes in New York. Those voters have made up their minds.
This is purely about how swing voters feel about their own situation in November.
Without looking at the other replies, Trump doesn't want Biden replaced. Also, I think the polls showing Biden with a huge national lead are misleading at best, and irrelevant.
>>All he needed to do was act presidential at his press conferences. Not treat it as a campaign rally, not fight with the press. Just act normal.
.... and let them blame him for every single COVID-19 death. Which they are doing now, and would have done anyway.
I'll call "Civility Bullshit" on your suggestion.
I think the answer is obvious -- because he can't
“** I don't know what it's like where you guys are, but here in the DC suburbs, the price of beef is just outrageous. Pork & chicken went up, but even ground beef is at luxury prices”
Now there’s your problem. We picked up steak at a local restaurant last week. It was decent by our standards, which are no doubt higher than in much the country. Prices haven’t really gone up since last year. But we still have a freezer full of beef from a cow raised on a farm about 10 miles west of here. That is part of the deal my partner’s ex makes every year for splitting the proceeds from the sale of his hay and alfalfa. Need to work it down so that there will be room in the freezer for when the next one is butchered. Our problem is that none of us are eating nearly as much beef as we used to.
Needless to say, places like DC are going to be at the end of a long food distribution chain. That means that cities like that, and worse, ones like NYC, will almost always feel the brunt of food shortages the worst.
Not reading the comments first, I will take a stab at what "obvious" is:
(1) Biden won't be the nominee, and I think the Trump Campaign knows this, and;
(2) if Biden can be damaged by such an onslaught, then it will be just as effective in September and October, and almost certainly more so.
My main takeaway from this "news" article is this- it was written by people wanting to buttress the idea that Biden is strong in the polls and Trump is weak in the polls. It is trying to create a desired reality.
If you can answer the question: why didn't the Dems release the Grab Em By P%$$y tape before the Republican convention you know the answer why Trump hasn't started attacking yet.
You can tell me that Biden's winning, but I'd want to see the actual polling - specifically the questions asked, the demographic breakdown on who's been polled, and where.
And when.
To be honest, Biden seems to be deteriorating quickly. Maybe he's seen as a 'winner' by the folks who are being paid big bucks by his campaign to figure out whether he can win or not - but they may just be getting the money while it's there. Once he actually starts to get out and be seen (because he can't hide in his basement forever) then it'll be apparent fast whether he's even going to make it through the campaign.
And doing a last-minute bait and switch at the convention would REALLY go well, no matter who they put in. There's simply not been time and visibility for anyone to gain traction after the rigging that went on in '16 to get Hil to the top of the ticket, and now Slo-Joe.
The Gerontocracy at the top of the DNC couldn't resist one last grab at the gold ring. And all it'll cost them is the Party itself.
Heck, the Dems could replace Biden *after* the November election, if they really want to.
Think Biden's electors won't vote for whoever the DNC picks to replace him?
Put Biden away? Idiots. Biden's not the nominee yet. Put him away too soon and you get to start over with another nominee--who is bound to be a stronger candidate. Trump got to be president by ignoring these people.
The other way to read the Politico writers is this- they don't want Biden to be the nominee, and would love to see Trump torpedo him before the convention. It would be a win/win for them.
It might make sense if the election were in July. It’s not.
I just skimmed the article and they named precisely zero Republicans making this argument.
Dust Bunny Queen said...
Biden is doing a good job of burying himself. Plus there is all sorts of baggage that will be coming out that the media will be unable to ignore. They will try, but it is too big.
This. The economy in the red states will recover by November.
Blue states will be in full rebellion.
Indictments up the wazoo. Yes the DC juries will give them all a pass. That jury pool was seen in Minneapolis last night.
The juries will let them off AFTER the election.
What's better for Biden:
A. An onslaught of Trump ads attacking him and stirring up his base.
B. Ilhan Omar telling everyone she thinks he's a rapist and depressing the feminist vote.
C. Biden telling a leading black media figure that it is Biden who determines his blackness and depressing the black vote.
Biden is probably WISHING Trump would hit him harder at this point.
You think Trump wants Biden dropping out before he faces him on the debate stage?
Then you picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue!
This all makes sense once you realize "Biden" is just Hillary drunk on Chardonnay in one of those Tom Cruise Mission Impossible "you're not who we thought you were" suits.
they have a strong glue fixation,
https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/28/nbc-riot-minnesota-george-floyd/
no real need
he wont be the nominee
he isnt really a threat
he does a fine job of taking himself down w/ le gaffe du jour
Besides, Dems own elder abuse this go round. No need
for Trump to be seen as picking on an Alzheimer-addled codger
...oh-- and he has hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun.
Bill Peschel said...
Isn't that from the art of war: don't interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake?
Sun Tzu said something along those lines. I always say; give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves.
Althouse has a good point, but I wouldn't count the above out as part of the strategy.
Think Biden's electors won't vote for whoever the DNC picks to replace him?
Something like that hasn't happened since 1872, when Horace Greeley died after election day and the electors went for a variety of different candidates. In 1912, when Taft's running mate died before election day, the party designated his replacement and the electors went along with that, but Taft only won 8 electoral votes from the most Republican states in the country. Last time, when you'd sort of expect electors to stick with the party choice, electors in Texas, Hawaii and Washington bolted. Electors in Minnesota, Colorado and Maine tried to, but they were barred from doing so. If Biden wins and the party can pick somebody to replace him, enough the electors will remain loyal to put the party's choice in the White House. If Biden loses, more of them will scatter.
So, Politico is using ANONYMOUS sources in an article about Republican Strategy?
More likely, just making shit up. As usual.
I haven't read the comments, but I think:
1. Biden won't be on the ballot. Why waste money on him.
2. Pandemic dominates the news.
3. Save cash for after the conventions.
We need to make sure slow joe is going to be nominated before we attack him. Plus, we need to know who the *real* Democrat President will be if Biden is elected. WE'll know that when Biden names his VP.
In normal times this would probably be a good time to get a jump on Biden. Heavy politicking right now would have limited impact with the Wuhan Flu capturing the lede. The drip, drip, drip of Biden in the basement is sufficient at this time.
I think the point that the DNC may not be able to drag Joe across the nomination finish line if he is under substantive attack is a good one. I continue to maintain that the DNC is in a real bind: they know Joe is crumbling, but they also know that if Bernie's not the second choice pre-convention they will have a mutiny on their hands. I think Trump is right to let them stew in their own juice until it is too late to do anything about Biden.
If I were cynical I would conclude that those encouraging Trump to spend money are those who would most likely cream some cash off the top of any expenditures.
I now see the comments and see we are on the same page.
Also agree with pianoman. Harris and then Mayor Pete. Unless, of course, the Clintons pull their magic.
Kamala is a blank slate and as black woman, she's golden. No substance.
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”
several Trump advisers, campaign veterans and prominent Republicans
Sure.
I'm warming to the idea that Mr. Biden won't be the nominee. Looking back at 2016, the Democrats had Mr. Sanders (not a Democrat) and Mrs. Clinton, who was "owed" the nomination. I doubt that Bernie Sanders would have been able to win, even if he had been the nominee. And, as flawed as she is, Hillary made it close.
So, who would be on the ticket should Joe step down? My guess is Warren/Harris or Harris/Warren.
@DantheMan ".... and let them blame him for every single COVID-19 death. Which they are doing now, and would have done anyway." I didn't say he couldn't respond. I said that the press conferences should have been a place where he wasn't doing that. He had a chance to present himself differently.
"Ann: Yes, exactly. The article is stupid and classic unnamed sources play into the tired narrative of "Trump isn't doing the right thing.""
Turn on MSNBC any time of the day and within the half hour you'll hear somebody saying that ... as if they are trying to help Trump. It's laughable.
The Stupid Party abides.
If Biden is the candidate, Trump will beat him, Ukraine will indict him or both. If Democrats replace him, most of the nitwits will vote against Trump anyway, but a few diehards will stay home and Independents will not be impressed with the procedure or the with the turd the D's recruit to replace him. They do have some turds who less unappealing than others. But the hallmark of today's evil party is that its politicos are all turds.
Waiting is the right call. Kellyanne is in her element here.
It is obvious that Trump SHOULD be destroying Biden right now. It makes no sense that he is being so silent. After all, he tried to coerce an entire nation to destroy Biden even before he knew he was running. Now that Biden is the likely nominee, Trump should be pressuring dozens of countries for dirt.The argument that Trump is not acting because he hasn't secured the nomination ignores all the things we already know about rump and how he acts.
Harris steps in after Biden relocates to a sanatorium. Harris names Barack Obama as VP.
Hilarity ensues.
Both Trump and I would love to have Joe as the nominee, except we all know that 'aint gonna happen. Joe is holding place so that they can figure out how to either bribe Bernie or make him irrelevant.
There is an apocryphal story about Henry Kissinger that reminds me of Bernie.
He went up to a foreign diplomat's hot wife and asked her is she would sleep with him for $1 million. She batted her eyes and nodded in an accepting manner. Kissinger then asked if she would sleep with him for $5.
She got angry and scolded, "What do you think I am, a whore?"
Kissinger replied, "We have already established that fact, Madame. We are just dickering over the price".
Berne is just dickering over the price.
Get off Trump's back -- can't you see he's busy burying some guy with a cable access show named Joe Scarborough?
Both Trump and I would love to have Joe as the nominee, except we all know that 'aint gonna happen. Joe is holding place so that they can figure out how to either bribe Bernie or make him irrelevant.
There is an apocryphal story about Henry Kissinger that reminds me of Bernie.
He went up to a foreign diplomat's hot wife and asked her is she would sleep with him for $1 million. She batted her eyes and nodded in an accepting manner. Kissinger then asked if she would sleep with him for $5.
She got angry and scolded, "What do you think I am, a whore?"
Kissinger replied, "We have already established that fact, Madame. We are just dickering over the price".
Berne is just dickering over the price.
I wish Ann would do one of her polls about China Joe being on the ballot in November. You know, Election Day. Which is about a month before the anniversary of D-Day.
Trump has plenty on his plate right now to waste much time on Biden. After the Democrat Convention is the time to start. The Blue State governors and mayors are doing a helluva job of pissing off voters in the Blue States. That can help Trump in the House elections. Which needs to regain to be more effective after his reelection.
All Trump needs to do is get the country back on track or at least the Red States by September and its all over but the crying for the Left.
Stories that rely on unnamed sources are to be ignored.
THEOLDMAN
No rational person believes that Biden is really ahead of Trump in the nation's eyes, just in the biased and rigged polling.
Yes, we will take political advice from Politico, based on anonymous sources. Yes, that's the ticket. /sarc off.
It's a 50-50 ejection because tthe two coasts have a lotta dumbshit people, who think they are elite and erudite.
They counteract millions of ordinary folks living, working, paying bills, paying rent, drinking beer, fishing, hunting, watching sports, watching NASCAR in flyover country. That's life.
Trump has politically survived a hoax special council, a hoax impeachment, a highly exaggerated pandemic, and a socialistic, fascistic lockdown from which we are emerging.
They'll be enough time for politics over the summer, when Slow Joes gets the full smackdown.
Ann Althouse said...
"Ann: Yes, exactly. The article is stupid and classic unnamed sources play into the tired narrative of "Trump isn't doing the right thing.""
Turn on MSNBC any time of the day and within the half hour you'll hear somebody saying that ... as if they are trying to help Trump. It's laughable."
Please let them try to "help" Trump. They really helped Trump in 2016.
HRC is waiting.. she's got it this time.. she says
YoungHegelian said...
About 47% of the country will never, ever, vote for Slo-Joe Biden. About 47% will never, ever, vote for the Evil Cheeto. It's that 6% in the middle that's going to flip it one way or the other.
Turnout on either side can be a significant factor, too. For example, if the Bernie-lover contingent of the left decides to take their votes and go home, while the MAGA crowd adopts a crawl-over-broken-glass attitude to getting to the polls...
YoungHegelian said...
About 47% of the country will never, ever, vote for Slo-Joe Biden. About 47% will never, ever, vote for the Evil Cheeto. It's that 6% in the middle that's going to flip it one way or the other.
These numbers are not symmetrical. The Dem number probably is about 47%, but the Rep number is more like 40%. Patronage works.
I think the point that the DNC may not be able to drag Joe across the nomination finish line if he is under substantive attack is a good one. I continue to maintain that the DNC is in a real bind: they know Joe is crumbling, but they also know that if Bernie's not the second choice pre-convention they will have a mutiny on their hands. I think Trump is right to let them stew in their own juice until it is too late to do anything about Biden.
I agree with this completely
The D+8 polls are fun.
About 96% of Republicans and all conservatives support Trump.
How silly.
I have no idea whether Biden will be the nominee. Certainly a good case can be made he won't be. The opposite is also true.
Another factor is that there's a new sense of optimism about the virus and the economy. The country is beginning to open up in some places, successfully even. The stock market has regained a lot of lost ground in a hurry. Some people are getting their old jobs back.
If things keep getting better, Trump doesn't have to do anything special. Events will bury whoever his opponent is.
Punxatawney Joe is buried in his groundhog burrow just now. He will ultimately come out of the burrow--after the Democrat conventin, and then Trump and his campaign can hit him hard. In the meantime Slow Joe grows more senile and gaffe prone. It's not going to take five and a half months of hard hitting oppo ads to finish dear old Joe's campaign. Save your powder for a two month blitz in September and October. Meanwhile as Joe runs his mouth (but not his brain) more fodder for campaign ads will be produced by Joe.
I think the answer is obvious
The answer is obvious. You are a sucker for this BS media tactic of wanting to portray the people around Trump as not really liking or trusting him.
Francisco D said...
Kissinger replied, "We have already established that fact, Madame. We are just dickering over the price".
5/28/20, 3:31 PM
That was attributed to Lord Beaverbrook, and probably popularized by Churchill. I know this because if Kissinger was really the one asking the question, the answer would have been yes- no haggling needed.
I assume the troll has some kind of mind control or something. Maybe he's just that alpha. Who knows.
If I were Biden, I would hire a food taster, and I wouldn't let that DNC camera crew, all of whom seem to have bad coughs, into the basement. Same thing with Bernie. Old guys can decline quite fast; you turn around that they are gone.
People always say location is everything.
It's not. Timing is everything.
It's all been said previously. Trump has to string this out as long as he can until the Dems are backed into a corner and have to stick with Biden. Timing will be crucial for the Dems, as well as for Trump. But for now, Trump is doing exactly what he should be doing.
doctrev said... That was attributed to Lord Beaverbrook, and probably popularized by Churchill..
In a similar vein, Churchill's response to Lady Astor (the Nancy Pelosi of the day) was priceless.
Imagine Pelosi telling Trump that "If I were your wife, I would poison your tea". The Churchillian response is (of course), "Madame, if I were your husband, I would drink it".
“you've got to let the Democrats lose their opportunity to swap out Biden for somebody else.”
A lot of folks didn’t think a clown could win. Though I was not one of those folks.
Anywho, Althouse tells us that the DJT folks could destroy Biden with their secret (hence Althouse doesn’t know it) info that they’re not jabbering about, but they’re holding this secret (hence Althouse doesn’t know it) info for now.
Got it.
Birkel: "The D+8 polls are fun.
About 96% of Republicans and all conservatives support Trump.
How silly."
Polls are even more fun when they oversample CA and NY along with polling "adults" on top of D+8.
Trump is very strategic on where, when, and how he spends money.
Typical GOP consultants spend money like drunken sailers. This is why so many of the GOP consultants Hate Trump.
I wonder what his campaign is focused on currently?
“Trump is very strategic on where, when, and how he spends money.”
A big selling point in 2016 was jabber about, supposedly, not using big-dough, swamp influencers’ cash. Then the line was re self-funding being a big deal. And stuff about not wasting dough.
So is so-called strategic spender DJT careful re not-his-dough spending?
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/21/rnc-spent-424000-at-trump-owned-properties-in-the-first-two-months-of-2018.html
"Don't waste your energy". "If you know yourself and you know your enemy, you need not fdear the outcome."
Ann, Ann, Ann The Dems can nominate Joe, run the campaign out to the last week and replace him. We all know the rules don’t apply to Democrats.
No, actually, they can't.
You know all those mail in ballots that the Democrats want? They're print 2 months or more before the election.
All those people voting early in person, or by mail? They're voting for "Joe Biden and X". You change the Democrat candidate, then at best for the Democrats, every single one of those people needs to vote over again. At worst their vote are in, they're for Biden, and they're out of luck
Every State has its own ballot rules. Think the WI Supreme Court is going to let Evers play games a week or two before the election?
The Democrats have, maybe, until early September to pull Biden. After that it will be too late. And it's entirely their fault that that is so
Rick said...
These numbers are not symmetrical. The Dem number probably is about 47%, but the Rep number is more like 40%. Patronage works.
Patronage works, when you're actually paying the people off
The Democrats have not been paying off black voters. Trump, OTOH, has been running an economy that is finally giving them both jobs, and raises.
The Dems big fear is that this year patronage won't work. See "if you're thinking about voting for Trump, you're not black"
"Trump, OTOH, has been running an economy that is finally giving them both jobs, and raises."
What planet have you been on?
NYT quote Hillary: "Why am I not 40 pts. ahead?!!!"
NYT quote Pundit: "Why is Trump not 40 pts. ahead?!!!"
"Don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes."
The previous commenters are correct in saying that Biden is not the candidate yet. To spend down the war chest against a "wanna be" and then be underfunded for the main event is the political equivalent of being "rope-a-doped."
Plus, anything Trump says against SloJoe can be used in support of the replacement candidate. Joe's too old? Replace him with someone younger and fresher (Buttigieg maybe), and you basically have close to a Trump endorsement! Joe's too corrupt? Buttigieg again for the win! Joe's demented? Surely there is some democrat somewhere who would not be...
Mutaman said...
Me: "Trump, OTOH, has been running an economy that is finally giving them both jobs, and raises."
What planet have you been on?
This one
The one where, stopping at the end of last year, before the Democrats used the Wuhan Flu to destroy the economy, the people in the lower income brackets were actually getting more of a percentage raise than people in the upper income brackets. Where black unemployment was the lowest it had ever been measured in the US. Where cutting down on illegal aliens getting into the US was helping poor Americans, just as anyone sane would know it would
What world are you in?
Hint: just because it's legal for you to smoke pot, doesn't mean the delusions you get from it are now actually real
In the next couple of days, (already happening) George Floyds death will be ALL Donald Trumps fault....24/7 for the next month on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, and PBS (amongst others). This will get their base nice and inflamed and ready to fight and tear down the country.
The election is in November.
You can't bury a Democrat now. Not possible. Biden could be dead and the news media would work tirelessly to keep him reasonably close in the polls. Unless the Dems decided to replace him.
If Trump somehow managed to damage him enough, the Dems would replace him on the ticket. So leave him alone. Let him damage himself for a couple more months.
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