She seems like a very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. So nice to see! https://t.co/1tQG6QcVKO— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 24, 2019
He seems lighthearted, in his usual style. He's almost always jolly, whatever's going on. But from Thunberg's perspective, his laughing is evil-villain laughter, and she projects herself into the future, where there are billions of her, hating him and, with him, all of the rest of us current adults who are ruining everything and laughing at a little girl.
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I'm more concerned with Wired's posting that crap. Entire ecosystems are collapsing? No they are not. This is all bullshit.
Let's take a poll;
is there Anyone here that doubts that Greta would/will execute us if she could?
Ann? Anyone? Watching this young girl; do you think that she doesn't want us all dead?
Please let me know, thanx!
Ann, when we're gone, I'm not sure they'll have a future. They seem to not know much of history before their time. I see a large learning curve for them. And life is, as she so nicely put it, is not a fairytale.
She is the victim of extremism. She is suffering from child abuse.
“No Fridolf, bother all this learning. I can't study anymore because I must climb the mast to see what kind of weather we're going to have tomorrow.”
― Pippi Longstocking
I am Laslo.
What the left has done to this kid and millions like her is criminal. They are among the luckiest human beings to ever exist. They live on a healthy planet with food, shelter, technology, all better than ever, and their parents, teachers, the media, etc have scared the living sh** out of them and ruined their childhoods. She is among many youngsters who have been permanently damaged by the left, and will wreak destruction on the rest of us.
Adults using children like this are evil people.
I don't blame her. At 16 she has been brainwashed with this nonsense for at least ten years.
Yes, and we know she is up to date on the most recently published science on climate, and has the educational background to understand it all.
Lord Robert Francis extolled her virtues the other day. My thought: when you let children make public policy, you get childish public policy. She seems to have deep emotional problems, exacerbated by a healthy dose of hysteria.
jvb
NYTimes says that there are three billion fewer songbirds in North America, but I would think that wind turbines were a bigger problem than warming so slight that it can’t really be measured.
people have been saying for years, that Climate Change poses an Existential Threat
I hadn't been taking them seriously before; but watching youngsters like Greta, i am worried for the future
And I don't mean i'm worried about the weather
I tried to tell my kids, on whom I spent a half a million dollars more or less “educating” them, that natural gas and nuclear power were the climate friendly ways to go, and stop killing birds like the golden eagle, which is facing extinction at the hands of wind turbines, on stuff that doesn’t add up engineering wise.
“Shut up dad!”
So you have to hand it to the left for effectively killing the Enlightenment.
https://www.nytimes.com/1980/08/12/archives/songbirds-decline-in-america-songbirds.html
Wind turbines, do your stuff! Killing songbirds night and day whenever the wind blows!
In 12 years, when Greta is getting out of rehab and realizes the world is still here, what will she say then? Will she blame the destruction of her future on the vile people who brainwashed her into thinking the world is going to end if we don't do exactly what she says, or will she pull an Al Gore and just push back the dates?
When you are correct it's easier to be lighthearted.
I’m not interested in the opinions of any 16 year old.
This is lunacy.
Greta is straight from a Disney movie. In a Disney movie, the kids are really smart and good while the adults are dumb and evil.
The great news about being on the Left is when all of the predictions are shown to be wrong, nobody in the MSM will ask them about always being wrong.
Which is nice.
What village raised this child?
Skylark said...
NYTimes says that there are three billion fewer songbirds in North America, but I would think that wind turbines were a bigger problem than warming so slight that it can’t really be measured.
Land being put into agriculture to grow corn for gasohol is a much bigger problem for songbirds than either climate change or wind turbines.
"She seems to have deep emotional problems...."
She is autistic (Asperger's Syndrome).
It's not sarcasm. Can nobody read Trump.
He's wishing her well when she gets older and more aware of the media.
The point is older and more aware.
No comment from AA about adults using children to promote their causes?
This would seem to be an extreme case of just that. A 16 year old addressing the United Nations? Come on people!
I don't offhand recall Trump ever using sarcasm. It's a woman's trope. ("Something is wrong and you have to figure out what it is, because I don't have the time.")
Although there's this:
I was in a bar last night, saw this beautiful woman like a supermodel.
I walked up, I was like "Hey, where you from? What do you do?"
She goes, "Oh, me, I live here in San Francisco. I am a brain surgeon."
I don't know if this makes me sexist but I was really impressed. Most women can't pull off sarcasm.
- Anthony Jeselnik
that would be a variety of sarcasm without the roughness typical of women's use.
Mom always said, “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.” I guess President Trump heard the same thing and took it to heart in this case. Sarcasm is merely assumed, but only because the young lady in question clearly doesn’t match that description.
The kids are all learning from their teachers today about what a brave hero Greta is. That's the reason for all of this.
Even if/when the Fake News Media dies, the liberals own education, and thus they own the future.
And yes, Gilbar, she wants us all dead. She’s a Green version of the Red Guards, wanting to clear the world of the old ways. Probably one of those people who wants to return us to a feudal way of life. Everywhere the Communists tried that, millions starved to death. She (and the puppetmasters behind her) probably believe that the planet is billions of people over its “sustainable” carrying capacity. They probably haven’t decided how many billions must die to save the planet, but rest assured that both you and I are on their hit list.
This girl just got off the private yacht of a Monaco royal, and now she demands we do her bidding so her life can be better.
Yeah, I'm not falling for that bullshit.
"his laughing is evil-villain laughter"
I certainly hope so. I know mine is.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
From what I have seen in interviews - she appears to be acting. When I looked her up on wikipedia - her mother is an opera singer and her father and paternal grandfather are actors -- so clearly she has inherited some acting genes . . .
A 16 year old
I thought she was about 12 years old because stupidity but mostly because no tits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilse_Koch
I kinda in the deplorable camp here. The country I grew up in was awash in toxic, mutagenic and infectious waste. Remember the Cuyahoga River? I remember football practices in LA where you could barely see the goal post on the other end of the field for the smog. I have spent a 35-year career cleaning up the environment and by every measure except CO2, the planet (except China and India) is a significantly better habitat for people, bugs, bunnies and plants. All of us who spent significant time in the remediation field are living under the threat of cancer. I've had two close colleagues die young from renal cell carcinoma due to perchloroethylene exposure.
It's not the girls fault, it's the adults whom push global warming as a political agenda by exaggerating and lying about the scientific consensus regarding the over-blown consequences of man-made warming.
What it does is fuel anti-environmental deniers. As cruel as Trump is in mocking this brain-addled brain-washed teen, it is the adults that have pushed her out on stage to be the face of a disinformation campaign that are to blame.
Fernandistein beat me to it @ 7:33 am.
Both Greta and her sister have mental problems. Her parents are putting her out on the world stage exploiting her. They should take those poor girls away from the whacked out parents. Greta is not alone in her mental suffering, according to the book. Her sister Beata, who was 12 when the book was written, lives with ADHD, Asperger’s syndrome, and OCD. https://quillette.com/2019/04/23/self-harm-versus-the-greater-good-greta-thunberg-and-child-activism/?fbclid=IwAR2nTluQ4D1fwO_2qsKYC8NL12fTChWhlb29uvr1dvQgJ8LNqQa7D96xIbg
Did you see the look she gave President Trump when their paths crossed at the UN? I guess she found out that looks can't kill.
Next to last scene of Dr. Zhivago, only with a glock instead of a balilaka. Same red kerchief though.
It’s always ‘68 somewhere.
We need a climate Year Zero
I've read that Aspies are often good mimics, so who can tell if those were her real emotions or just coached?
Trump's tweet made me laugh, and it's a bit cruel, but nowhere near as bad as her parents' actions for 10 years.
She is spoiling my dotage with this concern about her future
But get specific Gertie
What day will it all end?
Greta is the modern day Elizabeth Hubbard - star of the Salem witch trials. Once again the "elite" use children and media to spread fear and hysteria.
NYTimes says that there are three billion fewer songbirds in North America, but I would think that wind turbines were a bigger problem than warming so slight that it can’t really be measured.
Not in my back yard. I see birds near me I never saw growing up around here.
Hawk, hummingbirds, heron/egret and seagulls and owls. The seagulls like the parking lot near White Castle.
North America: 9,361,791 Square Miles (24,247,039 Square Km)
What’s going on in Mexico?
Are they dirtier than the US and Canada?
Plus wild parakeet. We saw a blue jay or bluebird a few weeks ago. We never saw one of those before, either.
Ralph L said...
I've read that Aspies are often good mimics,
Raises some interesting questions
Greta's family is full of Actors
Greta's family is full of Autistics
Is there a correspondence between Actors, Autism Spectrum?
Does being Bat Shit Crazy give you a propensity for Acting Skills?
Do Acting Skills give you a propensity for Bat Shit Crazy?
Is it fair to say that Professional Actors are Mentally Incompetent; and should be ignored?
Seeing Red said...
It’s always ‘68 somewhere.
The original late 60's Star Trek had several episodes that addressed the dangers of self-righteous children imposing their will. Examples: Charlie X (the kid with the stare who could melt adults), And The Children Will Lead (cabal of youths doing the bidding of the green spirit, with the oldest kid about Greta's age thumping his chest and imposing chaos, and "Miri" where the kids chant "Grups! Grups! Grups!" (short for grown-ups) and who must die when reaching 18/adulthood.
They must have been worried about the AA's of the world then.
"NYTimes says that there are three billion fewer songbirds in North America, but I would think that wind turbines were a bigger problem than warming so slight that it can’t really be measured.
"Not in my back yard. I see birds near me I never saw growing up around here.
"Hawk, hummingbirds, heron/egret and seagulls and owls. The seagulls like the parking lot near White Castle."
Maybe they're in flight from where they should be/used to be...fleeing an oncoming apocalypse only they can see/feel/sense?
gilbar: aspies tend to be the spawn of very intelligent people. That might explain why you are not experienced being around them.
So? Would you care to explain my Nephew?
If you have 3 billion less songbirds and 6 billion less blackbirds, does that mean 1 bird less per square mile?
Math was never my strong point.
The West Nile Virus took out a lot of blackbirds.
Florida is looking for citizen python hunters, tho.
If the situation is as dire as she paints it then billions of people need to die to rectify the problem. And I don't mean gradually die off and not be replaced. They need to start dying in large numbers immediately. I wonder who gets to choose who dies and who does the killing.
Your nephew is the exception that proves the rule.
The photos of Greta Thunberg seem to show a very unhappy child.
I don't blame her. At 16 she has been brainwashed with this nonsense for at least ten years.
Agree. She's heard about global warming her whole life. It was taught in her school and taken as a given in the media. She's acting very rationally with the information she's received.
,,, and she projects herself into the future, where there are billions of her, hating him ...
She and billions like her will hate him (hate all of us) even more because she was wrong and the rest of us were right.
Robert Cook said...
Maybe they're in flight from where they should be/used to be...fleeing an oncoming apocalypse only they can see/feel/sense?
One can always hope. Reminds me of a tweet I once saw: He seems like a very happy fella looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. So nice to see!
Reddit commenters think Greta has fetal alcohol syndrome. It’s the eyes. Whatever her case she certainly is an obnoxious little thing who, by promoting herself in this melodramatic way has opened herself up to criticism.
Maybe they're in flight from where they should be/used to be...fleeing an oncoming apocalypse only they can see/feel/sense?
Maybe the countries they breed in are very very dirty. Like San Francisco/LA on steroids?
I remember a few years ago the monarch butterfly was toast. I think the loss was 5 billion. They breed in South America? And work their way North. Hair on fire climate doom warning.
The Next year it was “never mind,”
The species had recovered. This year I noticed for some strange reason, more butterflies.
They just genetically engineered a mosquito to control mosquitos in South America.
It didn’t go so well.
Mosquitos bite birds.
Just a thought.
I have been in many global warming arguments over the years. What I’m about to say will sound boastful but please read to the end. I have never lost an argument. It’s not that I’m so smart or clever. It’s that the opposition is unarmed with data. Most of the GW hype R’s I have argued with do not even understand how the greenhouse effect works. I doubt they even know exactly what carbon is.
So what frustrates me is how my fellow skeptics lose to these Greta types. They lose because they too know virtually nothing about the topic. We all need to spend an hour at least to educate ourselves on itot else STFU.
fleeing an oncoming apocalypse only they can see/feel/sense?
Exactly. That is why Obama bought the dacha in Martha's Vineyard.
A long time ago, glaciers were spreading south from the north pole, and they lasted 100's of thousands of years, then they started melting about 20 thousand years ago. That is what is called climate change. We are not having climate change happening now. Far from it. Also, humans did not cause that climate change that happened so long ago.
You cannot say on one hand that she's a child, and knows nothing, yet turn around and critique her.
The focus should be on her parents (big Antifa supporters), and her handlers (Soros funded marxists).
cacimbo said...
Greta is the modern day Elizabeth Hubbard - star of the Salem witch trials
Yes. Well done.
I'd be less concerned with Greta's autism than with her being a Swede. They have affinity for eugenics and creating society verging on a totalitarian. The weirdest part is they actually enjoy it and happily take part in group-think and being compliant.
From time to time an individual breaks out, like creators of the Pirate Bay, or notch, creator of Minecraft, but they are exceptions to the rule.
Again, the rule being - Swedes are totally weird.
On the positive side, their share of electric energy from nukes is double the US's. Greta, however, does not approve.
> I doubt they even know exactly what carbon is.
You talking about barbecue briquettes and charcoal pencils? I don't see many of those floating about in the atmosphere.
chuck: atmospheric black carbon from industrial emissions is a first order climate forcer
My wife has been a National Geographic reader for a long time. I sometimes pick it up and see something interesting. At this point it is all climate change all the time. It's ridiculous.
The "sheeple" have been brainwashed but the democrat politicians knows it is a load of hooey, but it is really, really useful political hooey.
The recent powerline article debunks it as well as any I have seen.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/exposing-junk-climate-science.php
Via Lucianne:
A highly qualified and experienced climate modeler with impeccable credentials has rejected the unscientific bases of the doom-mongering over a purported climate crisis. His work has not yet been picked up in this country, but that is about to change, Writing in the Australian site Quadrant, Tony Thomas introduces the English-Speaking world to the truth-telling of Dr. Mototaka Nakamura. (hat tip: Andrew Bolt, John McMahon)
There’s a top-level oceanographer and meteorologist who is prepared to cry “Nonsense!”on the “global warming crisis” evident to climate modellers but not in the real world. He’s as well or better qualified than the modellers he criticises — the ones whose Year 2100 forebodings of 4degC warming have set the world to spending $US1.5 trillion a year to combat CO2 emissions....
But who are you going to believe: a superbly qualified Japanese scientist or a Swedish teenager with mental issues?
Some Finn and Japanese scientists independently are starting to look at low cloud cover.
NASA thinks we might be cooling, too.
...Solar input, absurdly, is modelled as a “never changing quantity”. He says, “It has only been several decades since we acquired an ability to accurately monitor the incoming solar energy. In these several decades only, it has varied by one to two watts per square metre. Is it reasonable to assume that it will not vary any more than that in the next hundred years or longer for forecasting purposes? I would say, No.”...
https://quillette.com/2019/04/23/self-harm-versus-the-greater-good-greta-thunberg-and-child-activism
The parents allowing their manipulation by the children, and the apparent "cure" of one of the kids by becoming a protestor makes it sound like a dishonestly told tale of neurotic tendencies amplified by something similar to "Munchausen by proxy".
> chuck: atmospheric black carbon from industrial emissions is a first order climate forcer
So soot is the big problem? Why don't the modelers say so.
Dr. Mototaka Nakamura
With a name like that, he's got to be good.
Or we're all smuckers.
In 30 years or so, when everyone is fine (more or less), she or her coevals will make claims and write books about how, as ridiculed and powerless youths, against all odds, they saved the world.
Jimmy Carter said his daughter thought nuclear weapons were the biggest threat. She was 13 y.o. at the time.
In spite of agreeing with most of the commentary here at Althouse, I have to admit the that Trump is the master: he's absolutely correct about this young lady. She really does have a bright future!
Remember, if there is anything in his resume that supports this, Mr. Trump can recognize TALENT. and this young lady is ready for the big time. She has all the correct social and human capital to be whatever future she has in mind; or, rather her parents and handlers have in mind for her.
Okay. she's the Brittany Spears of the Left; or maybe the next Judy Garland; or, like her reputed hero, the next Lady Jane Goodall. It makes no matter. She DOES have a bright future ahead of her.
What University will refuse her? What professional program will reject her? Alas, her face is one we will have to look at when our final hour comes, because she is going to outlive all of the adults in the room.
I mean, look at her--she is the very essence of White Privilege! Vanilla Ice Cream. PURE. The real deal, and with pedigree papers, too. What is not to like? Think about the multiple meanings of "Greta, the Trans-Atlantic sailor girl."
Yep. Trump has shown us all the correct way to look at this bundle of Talent: her future is so bright, WE have to wear shades. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrriKcwvlY
So, what is the point of doing anything, when we live in the end times?
"Fascists, bigots, and guys who plan to name their sons Adolf wake up every day with a hateful leer on their faces and the Horst Wessel Song in their hearts—if you’re an ignorant, misogynist, xenophobic, racist against science, I guess times have never felt better ..."
"What's the Point" by Michael Chabon
https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2019/09/23/whats-the-point/
I thought this was satire, but apparently ... it's not?
"Carrie."
M Jordan said...
Reddit commenters think Greta has fetal alcohol syndrome. It’s the eyes.
Beat me to it; I don't Reddit, but somebody posted a Justin Trudeau video with diagrams of a FAS victim next to Thunberg; quite striking resemblances.
> Howard > chuck: atmospheric black carbon from industrial emissions is a first order climate forcer
RAYCISS!!!
I blame her 100%.
She's not 12 years old, she's 16, and is traveling the world doing Big Girl Stuff to seemingly endless acclaim. Clearly it's what she lives for.
Emotional or mental problems? Not my problem. I only wish her bad things, because she's purposefully trying to fuck up our country.
This 16 year-old mawkish, humorless scold is not to be pitied.
multiple meanings of "Greta, the Trans-Atlantic sailor girl."
Huh? You mean, sailor girl as in, "town pump/bride of the regiment?"
I don't know, but I just watched that clip of her with the sound off. That girl ain't right.
, then they started melting about 20 thousand years ago.
There was the Younger Dryas abt 11,000 years ago. It got colder very quickly, noticeably within 30-40 years and lasted a century or two. Then warmed up just as fast.
We didn't cause that either.
Angry Shirley Temple. Trump is the Cesar Romero character trying to get her to lighten up and have fun.
They need to do a sing and dance duo. Maybe tap to Black Hole Sun
“Children are meant to be seen and not heard”
Grandma.
Better be careful - this is how you get Christine Blasey Ford in 40 years......
She's definitely creepy, with an undertone of something. Drugged like an Epstein girl by Soros or a Red Sparrow or something. Stockholm syndrome?
In the case of Greta T, I predict death by suicide within ten years.
Unknown said...
My wife has been a National Geographic reader for a long time. I sometimes pick it up and see something interesting. At this point it is all climate change all the time. It's ridiculous.
Glad someone else noticed. I subscribed for more than 40 years, and had a collection going back to the issues of the early days. When it became Climate Change Monthly, I ended the subscription and gave away all the back issues. Unfortunate, but just like most newspapers, Nat Geo has decided to get rid of its former base of readership. They will be ok, at least for now, but they are competing in a much more crowded market, far from their original niche.
"Reddit commenters think Greta has fetal alcohol syndrome. It’s the eyes."
I doubt it. It's Sami blood. A lot of Scandinavians have it, even if they aren't considered Sami, and it gives them an Asiatic cast to their features. Bjork probably has it, or she's part pixie.
I remember a PSA on TV from decades ago featuring a boy chiding our elders for wasting and using up all our fuel supplies and natural resources, leaving none, or very little, for the next generation. It was a scare tactic, and using a child for politics, but the idea was that we need petroleum to fuel our prosperity. The new scolds want us to be without modern energy and technology and sink into a new stone age for the sake of the planet.
Science deniers make Mother Gaia cry.
“Children are meant to be obscene and not heard from again” -- Democratic Party activist John Wayne Gacy
It's a joke!
It is fun to watch the left explode with oozing drooling rage over Trump's ever utterance.
Projection much, leftists?
AOC has got to be furious at being upstaged by this newcomer.
Char Char Binks writes: I doubt it. It's Sami blood.
Are your insights into Scandinavian DNA as absolute as your declaration that gringo has no derogatory implications? (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gringo)
The Green Collectivist Left needs to see the movie:
Dr Strangelove or: How I stopped worrying and learned to love the Heat
Trump shatters another Overton window, the one about not attacking children.
And he does it in a very Alinsky matter, by mocking her, reducing her perceived credibility.
Democratic presidential candidates used her to throw shade at Trump, and he counters.
Trump is so much like the little boy that pointed out the emperor wears no clothes.
I think it’s sad how she has been weaponized as a tool to push Climate Change, I don’t think it is good for her mental health.
Ron Winkleheimer said...
If the situation is as dire as she paints it then billions of people need to die to rectify the problem. And I don't mean gradually die off and not be replaced. They need to start dying in large numbers immediately
Remember! NOTHING stops Global Warming, like a Nuclear Winter!
It is Necessary Now, to make a choice.
To Chose between two, admittedly regrettable; but never the less, distinguishable future environments
One, where we've got 20 million people killed; and other, where we've 320 million people killed
I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed,
but I do say no more than 10 to 20 million killed, tops! Uh, depending on the breaks.
Blogger Char Char Binks said...
"Reddit commenters think Greta has fetal alcohol syndrome. It’s the eyes."
I doubt it. It's Sami blood. A lot of Scandinavians have it
Mebbe so, but those dirty Scandihoovians are world champ drinkers too. And her family is actors and other scum, so who knows.
all of the rest of us current adults who are ruining everything and laughing at a little girl.
**********************
"We" are NOT ruining everything!!!! Air and water are cleaner over North America and Western Europe than they have ever been! Forestation has dramatically increased globally over the last 25 years. Claims of extreme weather events incresaing in scope, intensity or frequency are belied by reams of data. Claiming otherwise is utter ignorance of history.
And as far as I am concerned, a spooky little creep who claims to see CO2 in the air is just plain crazy. Do submariners working in CO2 concentrations ten to fifteen times higher than in the atmosphere see colorless CO2?
Nope.
On top of that, her desire to ruin the lives and economies of billions of people "whether you like it or not" deserves not just laughter, but mockery and a couple jeroboams of 200 proof Shut-the-Fuck-Up.
Maybe Trump meant "happy" as a synonym for "crazy", as in "slap happy", that is, brain damaged.
I await her return to Europe.
The sailing yacht will not be available so how will she travel from USA?
Swim?
"he projects herself into the future, where there are billions of her, hating him and, with him, all of the rest of us current adults who are ruining everything and laughing at a little girl."
Wait a second. How can there be billions of her, if we are destroying the planet?
"Did you see the look she gave President Trump when their paths crossed at the UN? I guess she found out that looks can't kill."
I don't understand why Trump is the enemy. Should she not be glaring at Xi Jinping instead? The U.S. has lowered it's carbon emissions without being a part of any worldwide punishment deal. She should be happy about that and asking how we are doing that yet growing our economy at the same time.
Thunberg does not have Asperger's. I have a son with the condition, and I know the difference.
It's Sami blood.
Esquimauxism or faux esquimauxism, caused by CO2 poisoning.
who claims to see CO2 in the air
Pretty sure Grendel's mother, er Greta's mother, made that claim.
Like I’ve said before, if I believed all this stuff/predictions at her age, the world would have ended in the 70s.
Here we are 50 years later.
He applauds her very green enthusiasm and hopes that maturity will not extinguish her passion.
Reddit commenters think Greta has fetal alcohol syndrome. It’s the eyes.
First, they, Cloudflare, deplatformed 8Chan. Reddit is surely next.
Should she not be glaring at Xi Jinping instead?
Pretty sure, that she's Working FOR Xi Jinping
NONE of this is actually about Global Warming; it's ALL about protecting the Purity and Essence, Of our Precious Bodily Fluids*.
Fluid* Ice Cream? Children's Ice Cream? And WHEN did All this Global Warming talk start? 1949 1949!
How's THAT fit into your Post War Commie Conspiracies????
Can't wait till this one's fifteen minutes are up.
I saw that girl's performance on PBS news. I was more disappointed when a reporter and news anchor followed up with a discussion that took everything she said at face value.
"But from Thunberg's perspective"
Which we care about why?
For those who are still swallowing the nonsense that everything's getting worse, that adults are "ruining everything", just watch this:
https://youtu.be/8455KEDitpU
You will see cherry-picking to the point of mendacity.
And note: the data displayed come from US government sources.
We are the only country in the world that has been keeping standardized weather data for the last 150 years, over the entire nation.
It's all out there, but the warmistas have been quietly dicking with the data to make it seem that rapid changes started happening about 40 years ago.
They are liars.
Those who uncritically accept their lies are being manipulated into feelings of panic and despair, all for political purposes.
Greta said...
"People are suffering, people are dying, entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction and all you can talk about is money and fairytales of eternal economic growth.”
Greta there and behind Trump looks exactly like Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar, with Trump and Melania as Jesus and Mary Magdalene. (Trump is like Jesus!)
People who are hungry, people who are starving
They matter more than your feet and hair!
Everything's Alright
Woman your fine ointment, brand new and expensive
Should have been saved for the poor.
Why has it been wasted? We could have raised maybe
Three hundred silver pieces or more.
People who are hungry, people who are starving
They matter more than your feet and hair!
Try not to get worried, try not to turn on to
Problems that upset you, oh.
Don't you know
Everything's alright, yes, everything's alright, yes.
Surely you're not saying we have the resources
To save the poor from their lot?
There will be poor always, pathetically struggling.
Look at the good things you've got.
Think while you still have me!
Move while you still see me!
You'll be lost, and you'll be sorry when I'm gone.
Sleep and I shall soothe you, calm you and anoint you.
Myrrh for your hot forehead/
Then you'll feel
Everything's alright, yes, everything's fine.
And it's cool and the ointment's sweet
For the fire in your head and feet.
Close your eyes, close your eyes, and relax
Think of nothing tonight.
Everything's alright, yes, everything's alright, yes.
Close your eyes, close your eyes, and relax
If "little girls" (she's 16, a young adult at worst) don't want to be argued back at by the public, they should consider not deliberately becoming celebrity activists and embracing that and lecturing us all endlessly.
Either we don't have to be subjected to her lectures, or we get to critique her.
Pick one, you don't get "I get to lecture you and you just have to TAKE IT".
It is interesting to read the mental health experts here who probably could not deliver an inspiring speech to the UN or sail across the Atlantic for any cause. I am looking forward to reading these comments ten years from now.
roesch/voltaire said...
It is interesting to read the mental health experts here who probably could not deliver an inspiring speech to the UN or sail across the Atlantic for any cause. I am looking forward to reading these comments ten years from now.
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So...that was an "inspiring speech", eh....
heh
I am looking forward to reading these comments ten years from now.
At least you plan to read them before the world ends. Good thinking.
I'm a Trump supporter and I acknowledge that he is far from my ideal; I try to stay away from hating anybody but I kinda hate him at times. This tweet is just awful---stay the FUCK away from children in your politics! How hard is that to understand?? It's a sticky situation because Greta is a child who, despite being mostly in error, has astounding widespread influence. Therefore, Trump should probably respond to her messaging but only in a way that bypasses personal criticism completely.
I don't understand why Trump is the enemy. Should she not be glaring at Xi Jinping instead?
Trump is the one everyone loves to hate. If he was really Hitler, like Xi for example, they would be afraid to admit it in public.
"stay the FUCK away from children in your politics!"
She, her parents, and her handlers, put her in this position of exposure and influence. That makes her fair game for PDT's, and everyone else's, criticism. If you want to be angry at how she is being used, direct that anger at her parents and the others that are pushing and enabling her public appearances.
Wonder if she'll turn out like Jane Roe in the end. Realizing she had been brutally used by people with an agenda.
Ah, probably not. The insane climate theology permits no apostates.
I agree he is jolly, and usually is. But on the left wing sites which occasionally garner my attention the take is the reverse, that he's a snarling beast who makes Julius Streicher look calm. I bet that this will be presented as nasty bullying in a lot of places.
I guess this is the best approach if he is going to mention her at all. Dismissive of the message but not of the messenger. But I hope he drops the topic now.
As a follow up to jolly. I discussed Trump with Canadian friends recently they were stunned, really stunned, when I said Trump has a sense of humor and is often funny. It was like I had told them the earth had three moons, made of different cheeses.
> that he's a snarling beast who makes Julius Streicher look calm.
Can't do much about that. The left is completely nuts, I think it is an incurable condition.
Ken B reports: As a follow up to jolly. I discussed Trump with Canadian friends recently they were stunned, really stunned, when I said Trump has a sense of humor and is often funny. It was like I had told them the earth had three moons, made of different cheeses.
Surprisingly, my Canadian next-door neighbors think highly of Trump and wish they had someone like him as their PM.
> stay the FUCK away from children in your politics
Nah, I don't buy that. Greta is sixteen and wants to play on the stage with the big shots. She can't claim the armor of childhood if she is going to do that.
I want to understand what she means by "fairy tales of eternal economic growth".
I think everyone understands she's just a mouthpiece for hysterics. But as such she seems to have revealed a piece of their belief system they normally keep under wraps. Is she claiming economic growth will naturally come to an end? That seems a point developed specifically to rebut the accusation that the GND and other economic plans will hurt economic growth. But since the assertion has no support or basis in reality it seems an matter of faith.
People generally suspect environmental hysterics are using it as cover for far left economic ideologies largely because while their policy preferences will have no effect on global warming they do grant government control over the economy as the far left has sought for centuries. Referring to economic growth as a fairy tale indicates ideologically driven economic extremism is indeed core to the environmental movement.
I am looking forward to reading these comments ten years from now.
Do you think at any point you'll wonder how stupid you all were to believe this nonsense? Or will the fact that you've long since exchanged these fantasies for different fantasies prevent you from recognizing they never actually happened?
From Instapundit:
If you watch the footage, Greta leans forward excitedly at Trump’s approach. It’s almost as if she’s expecting he’ll do the same as every other leader, and seek her blessing, like the British parliamentarians who declared a ‘climate emergency’ for her, or Jean-Claude Juncker, the habitual drunk who is the unelected president of the EU, and who, in the manner of habitual drunks, made a show of kissing her hand when she came to pour brimstone on Brussels. But Trump keeps going, completely oblivious, and obviously with more important things to do •••
FWIW, “people are suffering, people are dying” in by the hundreds of thousands in Africa because of the first big environmental hoax: Rachel Carson’s junk science that resulted in banning DDT and thus allowing malaria and other mosquito-borne diseases.
After this tweet by Trump I definitely want to acquire the US citizenship and vote for him.
"The sailing yacht will not be available so how will she travel from USA?
Swim?"
I believe St. Greta is planning to walk.
Howard (@7:45) makes a statement that echoes my own experience (except for working in remediation). I grew up in the Pittsburgh area during the 60's and 70's. The progress that was made in cleaning up the air, land and water since that time is extraordinary. And we, as a country haven't stopped coming up with new and improved methods of combating pollution and harmful emissions. Part of this is undoubtedly due to government regulations (and I have a healthy concern about over-regulation).
It seems that burning coal is still one of the major drivers of greenhouse gasses, and China burns a lot of coal. We, in the US, use much less coal now due to cheap and plentiful natural gas. China is investing in nuclear reactors, but are they also investing in limiting emissions from their coal burning facilities?
Drugged like an Epstein girl by Soros or a Red Sparrow or something.
They sent her to WHORE school!!!
Mockturtle
But those Canadian neighbors live in the US right? So they see more, in particular that Trump is not some radically new thing in American politics. In Canada you get a much more filtered view.
Traffic was a mess yesterday because Trudeau was in town. I heard he did Swanee River.
Wind turbines, do your stuff! Killing songbirds night and day whenever the wind blows!
During the last Democrat debates in Houston; Greenpeace decided to block shipping traffic in the Port of Houston because Oil! What they impeded was a shipment of wind turbine blades. After all, Texas leads the nation and much of the world in wind generated electricity. But that doesn't fit the anti-Republican narrative.
"Angry Shirley Temple."
That would be Margaret O'Brian
South Park returns tomorrow. With each season's return my partner and I wonder which current shit show will be the subject of the initial episode.
Matt and Trey, hear my prayers...please lampoon this obnoxious creature.
roesch/voltaire said...
It is interesting to read the mental health experts here who probably could not deliver an inspiring speech to the UN or sail across the Atlantic for any cause. I am looking forward to reading these comments ten years from now.
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Apparently St. Greta has described her mental health problems quite clearly:
https://pjmedia.com/trending/fox-news-cuts-ties-with-michael-knowles-over-greta-thunberg-comments/
"One thing is certain: Everything Knowles said was correct and easily verifiable. Thunberg has Asperger syndrome, selective mutism, obsessive-compulsive disorder, and suffered from depression. In 2018, she described her own illnesses in a TEDx Talk, where she explained that she fell into a depression and became ill when she was eleven years old. “I stopped talking. I stopped eating. In two months, I lost about ten kilos of weight. Later on I was diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome, OCD, and selective mutism—that basically means I only speak when I think it’s necessary.”
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And when the left is done using her, she can go hang out with Cindy Sheehan.
I am looking forward to reading these comments ten years from now. - R/V
We'll all be dead by then. Or haven't you heard?
RigelDog said...
I'm a Trump supporter and I acknowledge that he is far from my ideal; I try to stay away from hating anybody but I kinda hate him at times. This tweet is just awful---stay the FUCK away from children in your politics! How hard is that to understand?? It's a sticky situation because Greta is a child who, despite being mostly in error, has astounding widespread influence. Therefore, Trump should probably respond to her messaging but only in a way that bypasses personal criticism completely.
9/24/19, 11:26 AM
What!?! He said nothing but nice things. You should be perfectly satisfied. It's practically an endorsement.
Isn't she 16? Is that a "Little girl" - she could get a hooker union card in Sweden and probably vote.
Trump tweets out compliments and everyone mind-reads and says its sarcasm and an attack. i don't see it that way at all.
beware of anyone who starts out a comment as:
As a Republican
As a Trump Supporter
As a Christian
As a Conservative
9/10 they're fake.
Rcocean's rules for identifying non-cultists
Several people have remarked they've observed more eagles, hawks, and apparently other raptors. All of which eat----- songbirds and other smaller animals. I don't count the songbirds I see, thought there are some around. I've noted fewer cardinals than in past years. I do notice more frequent sightings of hawks and eagles and large owls. There could be a relationship. Make an environment good for one, it's bad for the other. I know the large windmills kill an enormous number of birds. I haven't seen a count of what kind.
As for Greta and the claim she's autistic - Duane Cates AKA @drawandstrike is a shrewd observer of human behavior. From his twitter feed - You all realize at this point, having watched her, she's does not have Apserger Syndrome and is not autistic, right?
They CLAIM she does as added cover so nobody can talk back to her.
What!?! He said nothing but nice things. You should be perfectly satisfied. It's practically an endorsement.---
I think it is clear sarcasm. Greta's entire schtick is that she is severely unhappy and outraged by the world's failure to move as aggressively as possible against catastrophic doom caused by climate change. So Trump can't say that she seems like a very happy person. I also think that his saying that she has a bright future ahead of her is going to be interpreted--reasonably--as further sarcasm. At a minimum, since her message is that we HAVE no future, Trump's comment is probably sarcasm. More importantly, she is a person with autism and acts that out in public. You just don't throw out that someone with these disabilities has a "bright future" without a lot of modifiers indicating that you are specifically saying so in a caring, sensitive way.
steve said: She, her parents, and her handlers, put her in this position of exposure and influence. That makes her fair game for PDT's, and everyone else's, criticism. If you want to be angry at how she is being used, direct that anger at her parents and the others that are pushing and enabling her public appearances.
I am absolutely angry at that, of course. That's a given; it's horrible and reprehensible. But personal attacks on children who are being put up to things by adults are still beyond the pale. Attack those adults and make it clear that you believe she's being exploited--absolutely. Attack the unsupported arguments she's making--absolutely. When a child is exploited to deliver a political message, it's necessary to take personal attacks off the table. That's just the way that it is; it makes such kids a potent weapon but you have to back off until they are older.
Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit sums up Saint Greta perfectly: this year's Cindy Sheehan.
Some people just don't get Trump. They'll never get Trump. But I enjoy him more than any President in my lifetime. And I'm pretty old.
Ken B asks: Mockturtle
But those Canadian neighbors live in the US right? So they see more, in particular that Trump is not some radically new thing in American politics. In Canada you get a much more filtered view.
Traffic was a mess yesterday because Trudeau was in town. I heard he did Swanee River.
No, they live in Canada but, like many Canadians, winter in AZ.
@RigelDog: I see your point and to a certain degree agree. Where I disagree is that Greta Thunberg has taken an active role in the political promotion and provocation. She is very much has at least joint responsibility for the the situation in which she finds herself, and she is attempting to exploit your good will in not attacking children to her political advantage. This is very different than when parents and adult political actors bring their children to protests and rallies and such; in that case I completely agree that the kids should be off limits.
To allow Greta Thunberg to go without challenge is to enable more of that sort of exploitation - rather like the human shields terrorists make of children.
Greta's entire schtick is that she is severely unhappy and outraged, and pretends to blame her depression as caused by the world's failure to move as aggressively as possible against her imagination's worries of catastrophic doom caused by climate change
fify!
IF
We kill 90% of the people in the world, and
remove ALL power production, and
All become Complete Vegans
She will STLL be "severely unhappy and outraged"... Because she is mentally ill.
She's a little girl when convenient and an expert we should all take seriously when convenient. Children do make excellent shields, but I wonder about the ethics of those who'd use them that way.
I agree with rcocean @1:57 PM. Trump tries to say something nice for once, and everyone jumps on him with both feet. Sad comment on how people are these days.
He's got a tough hide, but still it's enough to make you feel sorry for the guy.
There's a funny cartoon on the Ace Of Spades HQ blog captioned "Child Cult News." It's a spoof of Grant Wood's "American Gothic," with Saint Inga and David ("Heil") Hogg as the iconic farm couple.
It was interesting to me, seeing them as a couple, how they both have a mentally-disturbed look.
Howard wrote, "Rcocean's rules for identifying non-cultists." As a member of the Cult of the State, Howard, I guess these rules wouldn't apply to you.
Children do make excellent shields, but I wonder about the ethics of those who'd use them that way.
George Soros hid his Nazi collaboration behind his own childhood.
It's wishful thinking. The girl is miserable - terribly, chronically unhappy - and she probably won't end up well. But what the heck? Wish the poor child well. She's going to need it.
I'd use the word "irony" rather than "sarcasm." In a polarized, highly charged environment making bland comments that can be taken to mean very different things is a way to get by.
I do it. Maybe Trump does it too.
It's wishful thinking. The girl is miserable - terribly, chronically unhappy - and she probably won't end up well. But what the heck? Wish her well. She's going to need it.
I'd use the word "irony" rather than "sarcasm." In a polarized, highly charged environment making bland comments that can be taken to mean very different things is a way to get by without antagonizing people.
I don't know where I read it but it was recently, something about how horrid life in Sweden is, there is a word for "crying while masturbating."
And RigelDog, you can fuck off and die with your pathetic, "I support Trump but," bullshit, as if. He's our God-Emperor and deserves all of our support.
I can think of no better way of dying than to be lying late in the day in a muddy field with the blood of a thousand RigelDogs on my sword, slowly bleeding from the thousand cuts I received dispatching these traitors, and receiving the blessing of the God Emperor, himself wounded and bleeding, as he walks the ground, sacred now, "History will remember this, 2020 was the year we stopped the bastards, liberty has returned."
are we supposed to pretend that liberal brainwashing hasn't psychologically damaged children now?
”Entire ecosystems..."
My gut hosts an entire ecosystem which will die with me. So does your's.
So what?
RigelDog said...
What!?! He said nothing but nice things. You should be perfectly satisfied. It's practically an endorsement.---
I think it is clear sarcasm. Greta's entire schtick
You've explained it all in one word. Shtick. It's all an act. She is my enemy and yours and the enemy of all civilization. I won't get into what she deserves, but President Trump's treatment of her was far kinder than she deserves. You should look up how the members of the Children's Crusade made out. If she was a sixteen-year-old autist protesting the Muslim invasion of Scandinavia she wouldn't get the time of day.
TL,DR: I don't like her.
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