Beto saying "fucked up" isn't profane because f--- is no longer profane in any sense an anthropologist would recognize. It's just salty -- and honest, and sometimes le mot juste. Slurs are our modern profanity, not sex and body words. https://t.co/c0PUjCF1Jf— John McWhorter (@JohnHMcWhorter) September 6, 2019
From "The F-Word Is Going the Way of Hell/In today’s world, slurs are the real profanity, not the use of an 'F-bomb' to describe a mass shooting":
Why, then, would clean-scrubbed former Representative Beto O’Rourke pop off with the likes of “What the fuck?” in response to an annoying question from a reporter after the shooting in El Paso? Or, after the shooting in Odessa, “We don’t yet know what the motivation is … but we do know this is fucked up."It strikes me as particularly shallow to use the word in that context. But the correct answer to McWhorter's question is that Beto is desperate at this point. He's got to do something. That is emphatically not what McWhorter says:
O’Rourke’s “F-bomb,” then, was less a matter of swearing than his seeking a note of sincerity. The F-word these days may not be truly profane to many of us, but it remains potent, a way of indicating genuine feeling. That is a common note from O’Rourke, paralleled by his display of his Spanish-speaking skills during the first Democratic debate in June. Related to this sincerity is that his F-bomb was downright articulate: “We don’t yet know what the motivation is … but we do know this is fucked up.” The word untenable would have sounded too formal; problematic too weak; troubling too uncommitted; egregious too Mr. Mooney. “Fucked up,” combining pungency with a streak of impatient dismissiveness, conveys exactly the sentiment O’Rourke intended, as well as precisely the one his supporters share.Sincerity! I'd've never thought of that.
ADDED: This made me wonder if Trump uses "fuck" in his public speech. I found "The Profanity President: Trump’s Four-Letter Vocabulary" from last May in the NYT.
In a single speech on Friday alone, he managed to throw out a “hell,” an “ass” and a couple of “bullshits” for good measure. In the course of just one rally in Panama City Beach, Fla., earlier this month, he tossed out 10 “hells,” three “damns” and a “crap.” The audiences did not seem to mind. They cheered and whooped and applauded....Schiff has a personal beef: Trump called him "little Adam Schitt."
“No one has debased the civil discourse in this country more than President Trump, and the president really does set the tone in the country,” said Representative Adam B. Schiff, Democrat of California. “We see it reflected in our offices by the hateful, belligerent, obscene and violent calls that we get now that we didn’t used to get.”...
[Trump] has either coarsened the public discourse or reflected it, or perhaps both, depending on your view of him, but he is not alone....Interesting that the Times saw fit to print Cheney's "go fuck yourself" and not Joe Biden's "This is a big fucking deal."
During a campaign event in 2000, George W. Bush was heard over a live microphone talking with his running mate, Dick Cheney, calling a Times reporter he did not particularly like a “major-league asshole.” In 2004, as vice president, Mr. Cheney told a senator on the Senate floor to “go fuck yourself.” His successor, Joseph R. Biden Jr., was overheard in 2010 using a variation of that profanity to tell Barack Obama what a big deal passage of health care legislation was.
Neither Cheney nor Biden were making a public remark. Here's Biden:
The Times article doesn't have any examples of Trump publicly using the word "fuck."
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१४९ टिप्पण्या:
Beto's language made Old Joe's eye bleed.
Beto is stiffer than Nixon.
Seeing Beto in person is exhausting. He hops around. Waves his arms. Sweats through his shirt. Total loser.
Profanity is the last refuge of a failed public speaker.
FUBAR, I tell you. FUBAR. The Dems cannot even cuss right.
The problem with slurs as profanity is that profanity provides an outlet for intense emotions that you are at bottom allowed to say. If you get really angry and you use a slur.... That could follow your for life now that we all have a “permanent record."
"Profanity is the last refuge of a failed public speaker.”
It’s a lazy shortcut 90% of the time. It works best when used by people who don’t normally swear.
My mother says that the only time she ever heard her father swear, she was Dutch, was when German bombers appeared overhead >”Fucking Hitler” or whatever is Dutch for that, and it stuck with her for life.
I don’t think “n* Hitler” is the same. But this is all about dismantling a culture built to sustain itself by harnessing natural drives.
I'd like a president with tourette's syndrome, just to keep speeches and negotiations honest.
It’s just more cultural Gramsci, whether the writer understand that or is just downstream from the real cultural movers.
My son-in-law and his friends use the f-bomb in almost every sentence.
It wears me out, not so much with the profanity, but with the anger.
The left's knee-jerk response of calling people one kind of bigot or another is more offensive.
Oddly, those morons don't even think that this is incivility. They're too damned stupid to understand that it's abusive name calling.
"I sell profane and profane accessories, I'll tell you what." -- Hink Hall.
Beto's word choice invites self-righteous outrage and intolerance of any debate.
What he's dismissive of is your enumerated constitutional rights. You have too many of those and Beto is out of patience.
Does Trump swear? This gets to the crux of the matter. Trump can wind people up, offend them without swearing. Beto got nothin’. Except swearing. So they/thems wants to downplay the swearing as a normal part of civil discourse. Still doesn’t make up for his lack of expressiveness.
Reminds me of the movie Roxanne with Steve Martin; the scene where someone attempts to crudely makes fun of his great conk. Martins character retorts how weak the insult is and goes on to recite (if I recall) 20 superior Insults.
"No one has debased the civil discourse in this country more than President Trump, and the president really does set the tone in the country,”
Bullshit.
There are people that are quite foul-mouthed in private - swear like a sailor; the former CFO of the biggish company I work for is an example. He regularly used all of Carlin's seven dirty words and it didn't matter whether he was happy or angry. When in front of the public, either with customers and prospects or a public forum such as an earnings call, he was polite, articulate, and, to my knowledge, never swore.
Beto is the opposite, his use of swear words is a calculated affectation. Such a phony.
By contrast, today some well-meaning students believe their white professors shouldn’t even mouth the N-word when referring to historical usage. That, ladies and gentlemen, is what profanity means.
IOW, Newgroes are sacred.
Quang Phuc Dong, English Sentences without Overt Grammatical Subjects
https://lonniechu.com/QUANG.html
fuck is not a verb.
In the Loop (2009) based its humor on foul-mouthed politically correct government officials; continued more gracefully in the TV series Veep.
Orange fuck bad.
You say "fuck" a lot.
So?
So you're just not using it properly.
The fuck does that mean?
That's what I mean. "Fuck" is a great word, but if you use it too much, then it just loses its value. And you sound stupid.
Fuck you.
Exactly. I feel nothing, and you sound like an idiot.
- Demolition (2015), widowed hero to girlfriend's kid
The political use is to claim responsibility for the remark against those (the kind of people who) oppose it. That kind of sincerity.
When politicians use it it's usually because some campaign staffer watched the episode of The West Wing where Bartlett stages the candid comment into the hot mic and looks bad ass doing it. The staffer thinks The West Wing is so ancient they have uncovered lost treasure nobody could possibly remember and recommends the stunt as highly original.
It happens every cycle. It's like Michigan J Frog.
Cunt is not allowed and it's a body part. Women think it doesn't take them seriously, and you've still got to seem to take women seriously.
You're allowed to be silently amused.
Objecting to the word is a sign of not being serious right there.
If you say don't bring me flowers on valentine's day and he brings you flowers on valentine's day, it's because he doesn't take you seriously, and furthermore he's right.
The only politicians I ever hear using it publicly are Democrats. Losers.
The Drudgeposition of guys hugging. I see what you did there, Ann.
Sincerity. If you can fake that, you might make it to the third Democratic debate...
Hmmm. I still consider the f word vulgar. I don't know how people use it so freely in normal conversation. And I know people do, but I consider a person who can't moderate their language according to audience to be a person of lower intelligence. Beto wants to sound like a twenty something year old, that's how he talks. It's not a mystery. It's not sincere.
There's only one racial epithet that's actually worse than the f word and we all know that it's allowed to be used quite frequently if you're part of their race. So McHorter is off on his analysis.
I was thinking of a book last night that printed "go to the d----."
I've also seen several TV shows recently that had jarring, totally unnecessary F bombs.
You're not allowed to say the n-word because you're protecting blacks from hearing it, taking them as infants.
The feeling can't apply when blacks use the n-word, because an infant using it won't fit that narrative.
It's not really a double standard. It's that the oppressive infant-narrative fails for that case.
Juveniles have always tested the adults to see how far they could go with coarse language and get away with it.
In past times, the adults knew this and put a stop to it while the young were still children.
Hmmm. I still consider the f word vulgar. I don't know how people use it so freely in normal conversation.
Barthelme used cunt properly, for comparison.
Snow White
“My son-in-law and his friends use the f-bomb in almost every sentence”
Some of it is a sign of the times, but some is a sign of maturity, or lack thereof. A half century ago, I was in college. When I graduated, I was using it about that much. It took several years to get the F word mostly out of my vocabulary. It was probably my first white collar job, as an accountant for Denver, but maybe a couple years later as a programmer for Census. Before that, it had been like your SIL. I think it was being around men ranging from my age up to retirement age. It wasn’t that conscious either. Just one day, I realized that I wasn’t using it anymore in conversations.
I remember seeing an old show where a bunch of comedians were roasting someone, maybe Shatner. And all these comedians were giving profanity filled raunchy dialog and it just wasn't all that funny. Bob Saget was particularly filthy, and he was followed by Betty White. Betty White used exactly one curse word, perfectly timed, making her routine incredibly funny and perfect.
You can be funny and interesting without cursing! What Seinfied says about his acts: Keeping his act sex- and swear-free, the way he sees it, is part of this athletic challenge, since it denies him the easiest laughs: "A person who can defend themselves with a gun is just not very interesting. But a person who defends themselves through aikido or tai chi? Very interesting."
I got a handy list of obscenities from a stop list, used to stop the computer from announcing various things, in the 80s.
Then it was easy to get the computer to only announce profanities.
When I was stationed in the Philippines, every year I would return from a three month deployment that had us embedded with Marines. It would take me three more months to stop using a variation of F@ck every other word. It drove my wife crazy.
I have a friend who's husband was a TV Producer back in the day. She said Red Skelton was the funniest man, telling the funniest, filthiest stories at parties or even before the show warm-ups. But if there was a kid in the audience, he wouldn't go there.
Interesting that the Times saw fit to print Cheney's "go fuck yourself" and not Joe Biden's "This is a big fucking deal."
One usage is confrontational and the other is celebratory. You do the math. One of those usages is of greater interest to our country and politics.
McWhorter is usually insightful.
"A person who can defend themselves with a gun is just not very interesting. But a person who defends themselves through aikido or tai chi? Very interesting."
I think he's saying conservatives and their gun nut friends aren't very interesting.
He's right.
Beto is a phony. Dropping F bombs is supposed to make him one of "us", what ever he thinks "us" is supposed to be.
I live in the world of ruff and tumble grease under the fingernails, undereduacated, he man, never back down, knuckle dragers. Crappie fishing, stock car racing, heat with wood in the winter, hicks. The f bomb is a staple, and yet my wife slips it in to conversation than I do, because she works with 2 dozen women.
The point is, I rarely swear. I know all the words and such, but mom and dad told us swearing was one of the markers for low intelligence. So rarely do I join in....unless I need to fit in.
Beto is a phony. As in pandering to those he knows are beneath his station in life, pandering, but will accept their vote anyway,pandering
Shouting Thomas said...
My son-in-law and his friends use the f-bomb in almost every sentence.
It wears me out, not so much with the profanity, but with the anger.
Lol. And you'd think a lifelong anger-management drop-out like yourself would be sympathetic to others who suffer from the same problem you have. ;-)
The left's knee-jerk response of calling people one kind of bigot or another is more offensive.
Oddly, those morons don't even think that this is incivility. They're too damned stupid to understand that it's abusive name calling.
That's only assuming the bigot has no control over his bigotry. Which I guess would describe your problem pretty well, come to think of it.
Lol.
Beto is just being a weirdo as usual.
Once again, a very interesting post. If you are obviously not a street person, can "fuck" be transparently a way to add fake street cred, whereas "bullshit" may be more native to you? I've just been watching the Dave Chappelle special. He has admitted that in a way he lacks street cred--he grew up in Silver Springs, MD. I've been thinking, as Ann might be suggesting, that Trump is not as vulgar as his haters say he is.
Many of us Canadians are following tennis star Bianca Andreescu. She will face Serena Williams in the final of the U.S. Open today; they faced each other recently in the final in Toronto, but Serena had to withdraw because of muscle spasms. As soon as she heard what was happening, Bianca ran over, offered a hug (which was accepted) and talked in a kind of stream: I've followed your whole career, you are a legend to me, etc. Heart to heart, but no doubt with the knowledge that the mic was on. My favourite part: "Girl, you are a fucking beast." One gets the sense that for Serena, this was all more or less the right thing to say and do.
I always feel like Beto can be folded up and stored in a box when not in public.
Fuck Beto and all his supporters.
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I'm all kinds of bigot
Beta O'Rourke sure gets a lotta press for someone hovering at 2-3% in the polls.
The guy's a stone cold loser.
Sincerity has become distorted. It’s about how much you care rather than whether or not you care.
That’s why our politicians are constantly elevating the threshold of how far they’re willing to go to deal with a problem. And by extension demonstrating they’re most willing to redistribute wealth and remove our civil liberties.
It’s why Joe Biden can’t just be for the Green New Deal. He has to say it doesn’t go far enough.
Beto doesn't even make a good potential running mate. All the current Dem candidates will need a running mate that adds weight, not subtracts it.
Chief Executive Lawbreaker - Whiny Weasel Trumpkins said...
That's only assuming the bigot has no control over his bigotry. Which I guess would describe your problem pretty well, come to think of it.
Lol.
Said the proverbial bigot, who believes every lie, as long as it serves his bigotry.
SIL?
Sister in law? Such is life? Supported Independent Living?
Its important to remember most of thevNeverTrump/LLR FakeCons are already on record pledging to vote for Robert Francis "Speed Away From The Crime" O'Rourke if he were to capture the dem nomination.
Note: "Speed Away From The Crime" is his Native American name, or so Li'l Tomahawk Warren told him....
That’s why our politicians are constantly elevating the threshold of how far they’re willing to go to deal with a problem.
Yup. It's not enough just to have invisible clothes anymore. To be the next emperor, your clothes have to be more invisible than anyone else's.
Does anyone else ever wonder WHY we (or, even The Democrats) give a rat's ass what a tweeking, adderall addicted methhead thinks, or says?
Have y'all Never seen a tweeker before? Looking it up in the dictionary; they'll have a pic of Beto
David Begley said...
Seeing Beto in person is exhausting. He hops around. Waves his arms. Sweats through his shirt. Total tweeker.
fify
Poor Beto. Nothing is working. He even hired Annie Leibovitz for chrissakes. Why isn't it working?
PeePeeTapes changed his handle for some reason....
Often wrong, but never in doubt.
Skippy, just point and laugh at him.
taking the first step to destroying our health care system is a bid fing deal.
he grew up in Silver Springs, MD
It's Silver Spring, fuckhead.
PeePeeTapes changed his handle for some reason….
Althouse finally banned his former net incarnation, is my guess.
Profanity is the last refuge of a failed public speaker.
Robert O'Rourke swears because he is an otherwise unmemorable speaker. Watch the debates with Ted Cruz. The guy is on a par with AOC.
As I understand it, in England the word cunt is much less of an obscenity. It is used in the way we use prick or dick. England's use of the word is starting to bleed over to this country. We're starting to use cunt interchangeably with prick. I would think that cunt is a more passive kind of fucked up person than prick, but obscenity users are not into nuance. At any rate, the use of cunt in such a context signifies increased equality between the sexes and should be welcomed and encouraged by feminists.......The n-word is the most potent word in the English language. It has the power to destroy people and careers instantaneously. Not since Y....h among the ancient Israelites has a word held such power
I see Ritmo is out of rehab (or was it the psych ward this time?) and back with a new name.
Over a decade ago fuck was described as the 7th most used non-article adjective word in NYC. With that knowledge, I was still shocked by the frequency of usage in the language when I worked there in 1999.
On second thought it may have been two decades ago!
Would Ritmo do us all the favor of admitting the dossier pee pee tapes was so much bull shit?
L.O.Fucking.L.
stevew said, "Beto is the opposite, his use of swear words is a calculated affectation. Such a phony."
Ah, but McWhorter thought sincerity. "Related to this sincerity is that his F-bomb was downright articulate: "We don’t yet know what the motivation is … but we do know this is fucked up.'"
So, let's slide down the slippery slope a bit. If a man is sincerely angry at a woman, would a good hard slap be acceptable evidence of his sincerity?
Some people might sincerely take exception to that.
John Francis O'Dork is one of the most ridiculous man-child's to ever run for Office. He should be laughed at or despised. Instead, all the D's think he's fucking great. But then when have the Left ever stopped the culture from getting more and more coarse and degraded? The CONTROL The culture.
When O'Dork used Fuck during the debate did any candidate object? I think one did, in a feeble manner. Or maybe I was imagining that. They didn't even attack O'Dork for answering a question in Spanish when it was asked in English.
Trump drops F Bombs
The British use Cunt and Bugger a lot. The occasional Goddamn Fuck and Bullshit - when used for creative emphasis is OK. But I get really angry when I go to a movie and every 5th word is a 4-letter one. I'm paying you money, and the best the screen-writer can do is "Fuck"? How about something witty or interesting? What contempt for the audience. Its even worse in Columns, magazines, and books. Most profanity is just a boring verbal tic.
Why is anyone still talking about "Beto"? His increasingly desperate plays for attention are just sad at this point. But what has he ever done except lose a senate race and schtupp a billionaire's daughter?
British cunt isn't the body part. It's an unreliable or unsavory person.
Your "Trump drops the F Bomb" is from 2011. Fucking Liberals, they never tell the Truth.
Liberals/Progressives are Goddamn liars. Never trust the Cunts.
Rh - where do get this stuff? do you make it up? "Cunt" is a body part. So is "asshole".
The n-word sets off HR departments, which makes mob action pay so there's mob action.
Nobody seems to mind the infantilization of black people, in protecting them from the n-word. As if whites were itching to say it but were only restrained by huge social actions, because everybody knows what whites hating blacks is what's holding blacks back.
Not acting white is what's holding blacks back, and nobody I know is at all inclined to use the n-word, sanctions or not.
“Your "Trump drops the F Bomb" is from 2011. Fucking Liberals, they never tell the Truth.”
So fucking what? He’s used the word. We should all pretend that whatever he did before he became a candidate doesn’t mean anything now?
Inga is correct in that criticizing O'Rourke's language in view in Trump's is foolish and hypocritical. Still, O'Rourke lacks traction.
FrankIngaM: "We should all pretend that whatever he did before he became a candidate doesn’t mean anything now?"
LOLOLOLOL
Better check up on Trump price gouging policies when he ran that Lemonade stand as a 10 yr old!
Hey, remember when Inga and LLR Chuck and the rest of the left tried to blame Romney for a suicide of a guy in his 50's because of some supposed haircut he got in High School that Romney was blamed for?
Too too funny.
Hey, remember just a few years ago when Trump colluded with Russia to deliver a Pearl Harbor-like attack on our democracy?.........yeah, Inga and Chuck don't talk about that little gambit much anymore do they?
So. Much. Winning.
I can't wait until someone does a doctored video of the Hoax Pee Tape because it will be so much fun watching the lefties Inga and Chuck spool right back up!!
“On my first day as president, I will sign an executive order that puts a total moratorium on all new fossil fuel leases for drilling offshore and on public lands. And I will ban fracking—everywhere,” vows Elizabeth Warren
wow.
The anti-Trumpers have gotten a lot of mileage out of this:
Trump says F.
tcrosse: "The anti-Trumpers have gotten a lot of mileage out of this:"
We are 3 full years into the anti-Trumpers telling us Trump is a russian spy, a traitor, a nazi mass murderer and all round bad guy.
So how much mileage could possibly be gained out of this?
Interesting observation: Number of Inga complaints about Biden using the F-word in public at a White House event remains at the even number of ZERO.
“And I will ban fracking—everywhere,” vows Elizabeth Warren
wow.”
At least she didn’t say she’d ban fucking everywhere.
I couldn’t care less who uses the f bomb occasionally, your hypocrisy is more concerning.
At what point does Robbie get some self-awareness and realize they’re just not into him?
Inga: "At least she didn’t say she’d ban f***ing everywhere."
Inga sets the bar high for Li'l Tomahawk.
FrankIngaM: "I couldn’t care less who uses the f bomb occasionally, your hypocrisy is more concerning."
LOLOLOL
What an absolutely perfect self-own. And it's only Saturday morning!
Ah well, Babbling Beto is boring. I don't much care what he says. Inanity piled on inanity to infinity is Beto's style.
Inga: "At least she didn’t say she’d ban fucking everywhere."
When you have Inga and Fauxcohantas' looks and personality, fucking is no longer a question. It is effectively banned.
“Your "Trump drops the F Bomb" is from 2011. Fucking Liberals, they never tell the Truth.”
Inga: "So fucking what? He’s used the word. We should all pretend that whatever he did before he became a candidate doesn’t mean anything now?"
9/7/19, 10:29 AM
Somebody mentions Biden....
Inga: "I couldn’t care less who uses the f bomb occasionally, your hypocrisy is more concerning."
9/7/19, 10:46 AM
LOL
It took EXACTLY 17 minutes for Inga to forget what she had previously written!
That's pretty good for Inga. Usually for her history resets every 15 minutes!
Way to go Inga! Just keep the blood out of your eyes and your hands off the little girls and YOU could effectively challenge Biden for the nomination!
I'm starting to wonder if Inga has been breaking into LLR Chuck's gin stash......
Inga, do you realize how difficult you make it for fake conservative LLR Chuck to effectively defend democrats when he has to run interference for your many verbal gaffes?
Come on gal. Get with the program. You're hurting Team Dem!
“It took EXACTLY 17 minutes for Inga to forget what she had previously written!”
Um... no.
Drago, you need to come back down to earth, it should be obvious that I posted the video of Trump using the word ‘fuck’ to show you sycophants that you have no moral authority when it comes to others doing the same thing Trump has done. Now you can continue to spin your wheels and kick up dirt, while going nowhere.
Reason:
Elizabeth Warren's Pitch for 'Economic Patriotism' Is Full of Intellectual Dishonesty and Economic Fallacies
I really don't care about Alabama-gate or Fuck gate.
Fuck the liar left. You're all dangerous assholes.
“Fuck the liar left. You're all dangerous assholes.”
Well, frack you!
Inga: "Drago, you need to come back down to earth, it should be obvious that I posted the video of Trump using the word ‘fuck’ to show you sycophants that you have no moral authority when it comes to others doing the same thing Trump has done."
Trump has not used the F-word publicly and repeatedly as a candidate for the highest office in the land.
As with your collusion lies, hoax dossier lies, pee tape lies, gang rape lies, etc etc etc, these latest pathetic attempt to rope Trump into Beto's implosion will also fall flat.
I do give you credit though: Your rapid back-tracking skills have improved and are more LLR Chuck-esque than ever before!
Congrats.
Remember, its the little victories that count...
Inga: "Now you can continue to spin your wheels and kick up dirt, while going nowhere"
LOL
Inga thinks I'm Bobby Mueller!
BleachBit-and-Hammers quoted: 'On my first day as president, I will sign an executive order that puts a total moratorium on all new fossil fuel leases for drilling offshore and on public lands. And I will ban fracking—everywhere,' vows Elizabeth Warren
wow.
That position cements her candidacy in NY and CA and loses her everywhere else.
Inga: "So fucking what? He’s used the word. We should all pretend that whatever he did before he became a candidate doesn’t mean anything now?"
9/7/19, 10:29 AM
So what did it "mean" when non-candidate Trump used the F word in a speech in Vegas in 2011?
And what did it NOT "mean" when Biden used the F word during a formal ceremony at the White House as VP?
LOL
This will be fun....
We should all pretend that whatever he did before he became a candidate doesn’t mean anything now?
You pretend that being asked to leave doesn't mean anything.
chikelit: "That position cements her candidacy in NY and CA and loses her everywhere else."
Nonsense!
There is a virtual "army" of LLR's in Michigan who will also swoon to this Lieawatha swan song.....
BleachBit-and-Hammers said...I really don't care about Alabama-gate or Fuck gate.
The mere fact that there is am Alabama-gate and now a fuck-gate shows how stuck Dems are in the '70's.
Beto is woefully immature. Add that to a self-absorbed, sloppy guy with a 2nd rate mind, and the grand sum of this presidential candidate is less than zero.
“That position cements her candidacy in NY and CA and loses her everywhere else."
That position will have her winning in Wisconsin and Wisconsin will decide this election.
If it weren't for the F-word the Irish wouldn't be able to speak in complete sentences.
I say that with love. As an Irish American.
Frack-sand mining in Wisconsin is very unpopular.
He said "fuck"! Hehehe.
"Cunt" is nothing more than an Anglo-Saxon word for what the Romans (that's us) call the vagina. It's current taboo is nothing more than linguistic superstition coupled to societal prudery of a specifically neo-Victorian cast.
I love Key and Peale but when they did high-school-set skit involving discussion of "white penis" and "Black vagina" I lost a lot of respect for them. White dick and black cunt or black pussy or black poon . . .
Narr
It's all pink on the inside
Its current taboo.
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MOAR cofveve
Yes, McWhorter completely flubs this- there was no sincerity of feeling enhanced by O'Rourke's use of the profanity- it is exactly as Ms. Althouse described it, a desperate attempt to garner attention when his campaign is floundering like the Titanic.
so, people are discussing the fact that an Adderall addicted methhead can't talk in public (ON STAGE, During Debates: ON TV), without using profanity;
And an Ignorant Slut says...
"Oh YEAH? BIG Deal! The President of the United States once used that word; 19 years ago!!!"
Igna, IF you have to go back 19 years to find an example of swearing; maybe it's different than swearing every paragraph
speaking of which, i found this while doing research:
Jane, You Ignorant Slut
It's Actually got a lot to say about today's topic (They're debating Lee Marvin, and 'palimony').
what matters and what doesn't to these people,
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2019/09/07/abc-unemployment-14-seconds-cbs-nbc-skipped
the huntress did't curse, yet mcwhorter found her offensive,
If you use it too often you eventually have no more to give:
https://youtu.be/Vqbk9cDX0l0
Chorus]
I've no more fucks to give
My fucks have runneth dry
I've tried to go fuck shopping but there's no fucks left to buy!
I've no more fucks to give
Though more fucks I’ve tried to get
I’m over my fuck budget, and i'm now in fucking debt!
Inga: "Frack-sand mining in Wisconsin is very unpopular."
It's certainly unpopular in the Kremlin as well.
The russkis are desperate for us to stop fracking and go back to being an importer which would empower our enemies.
Great job giving the Russians what they want....again.
There's that oft posted and used for memes photo of Trump forming what looks like him saying Fuck.
But that pales in comparison to Tlaib saying "impeach the motherfucker" with her kids at her side.
—The Times article doesn't have any examples of Trump publicly using the word "fuck."—
As a presidential candidate, which is the comparison here, since that’s what Beto is doing. And it’s the reason the f word is now “acceptable.” If Trump has used it rather than Beto it would be considered racist, sexist, gender isn’t, and of course white supremacist.
. . . display of his Spanish-speaking skills . . .
In fact, Beto’s Spanish is terrible. Execrable. Fucked up.
"And I will ban fracking—everywhere,' vows Elizabeth Warren"
A candidate promises action that would indisputably create a huge recession, vast layoffs, destruction of our trade balance, and turning the U.S.from the most successful carbon emissions reducer to the worst and she's not even called out on it. If the global warming alarmists are right, she would kill millions. She's a lot more coddled than Trump was with shooting a lone man on Fifth Avenue.
FLOL (Fucking LOL) should be a thing. Just "LOL" sucks the big one.
This is a big, fucking deal - not said by Donald J. Trump
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Fuck off, Inga.
A Beto walks into a bar and is immediately asked "why the long face?" before being offered sugar cubes
Horrible only jo jo kennedy or tim kane were worse.
Slurs are our modern profanity, not sex and body words
Planned, choice, diversity, phobia, etc. Very urbane. Very elite.
Prof. McWhorter is always worth listening to, but in this case he's over thinking it.
"Fuck" is a boring word that inconsiderate people use in front of children. No more, no less.
Unless you can swear like Richard Prior (for whom it was poetry) why bother.
Given he has already eaten dirt, that still shot of Beto is a good starting point for showing him eating something more notable.
Howard: "A Beto walks into a bar and is immediately asked "why the long face?" before being offered sugar cubes"
If John Kerry entered the race the Democrats would have quite the stable of candidates......
Beto's grasp of logic, economics and history is what's fucked up.
FLOL (Fucking LOL) should be a thing. Just "LOL" sucks the big one.
LOFL is more musical.
Lurch made it hard for the dims to unbridle themselves
FLOFL is mellifluous.
Narr
FLOFL!
Imagine if Bill Maher had said "cunt" instead of "dick in his anti-fat diatribe.
Imagine.
(or are women not supposed to see their cunts?)
FLOFL is mellifluous.
Narr
FLOFL!
There's always ROTFLMFAO (rolling on the floor, laughing my fucking ass off).
FALAFOL!
FROTFFFLMFAO.
Narr
Need to check sugar . . . spellig harf . . . OFS
with a tin ear:
https://hotair.com/archives/karen-townsend/2019/09/07/hillary-clinton-gushes-american-born-royal-everyone-hates/
"The Times article doesn't have any examples of Trump publicly using the word "fuck.""
But then, they don't need no effing evidence.
Profanity, vulgarity, and obscenity are not all the same thing. Profanity has to do with profaning something holy. Such as, using Gods name in vain or inappropriately referring to hell or damnation. Vulgarity relates to using the language of low class, common, or criminal people--like saying shit and fuck, instead of feces and coitus. Obscenity relates to anything that most people consider disgusting or abhorrent. At one time that was sex and body functions, but not so much anymore. ISIS beheadings and snuff videos would probably count today as obscenities.
That's it.
If I go into politics, I'm changing my name to Enward Ephbaum
Fuck that fucking fuck O'rourke.
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