"Pivot. They had invested so much in their fantasy that President Donald Trump was a treasonous agent of Russian boss Vladimir Putin. But when special counsel Robert Mueller’s report came out, and there was no collusion, no crime charged, their fantasy collapsed. And so, after a brief spasm of despair, the left pivoted to their default position: race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race.... In the short term, Democrats and their media allies are using race and charges of 'white supremacy' to herd those 60 million or so Trump voters back into Hillary Clinton’s basket of deplorables. But once you brand 60 million people as 'white supremacists,' and 'Nazis,' what can you do with them?"
Writes John Kass in The Chicago Tribune.
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२०१ टिप्पण्या:
201 पैकी 1 – 200 नवीन› नवीनतम»"But once you brand 60 million people as 'white supremacists,' and 'Nazis,' what can you do with them?""
Start putting them on trains.
A couple of commenters have already hinted at the “revenge" that awaits.
If this is showing up in the Tribune, the Democrats see the true desperation in their situation. Things are looking really bad for them, no matter what they bullshit the polls into saying.
Russisn Hoax => Racism Hoax
In the blink of an eye, too. Not much self reflection on the first debacle, either.
John Kass is the reason I subscribe to the Tribune,. It is otherwise as useless as the LA Times.
"what can you do with them?"
Shame them into voting for an Indian like Harris or Warren.
As if Democrats have played no part in racism in the U.S.
"But once you brand 60 million people as 'white supremacists,' and 'Nazis,' what can you do with them?"
They don't care about that 60 million. They're well aware that they could never persuade them to vote (D) anyway. They're attempting to appeal to swing voters by making the argument something like "You don't want to be associated with racists, do you?" The goal is to fully demonize Trump's base, turn them into monsters and B movie villains of the sort that any self respecting person wouldn't want anything to do with.
I have no idea how successful they can be with this, but it seems like a difficult task.
Look before you leap: the Democrats have Biden, Warren and Sanders to electrify the minority vote?
Democrat party to you:
"We hate you. Please vote for us."
Bonus: democrats to give all your money to illegal entrants, and free stuff to ingrates and dumbasses who live in mom's basement.
Democrat party to you:
Anyone who doesn't vote for us is a racist.
Anyone who does vote for us is not.
Blogger Nonapod said..."They're attempting to appeal to swing voters by making the argument something like "You don't want to be associated with racists, do you?""
Yep. That's exactly what this "racist" crap is all about. It actually doesn't have anything to do with Trump. They've been doing it since before Trump even showed up. It's a cynical, disgusting tactic. And then, to top it off, we're the ones who are labeled "divisive. Fuck 'em.
One problem with the word racist is that you can say that a colored person is a racist too.
That's why we all are supposed to say White supremacist from now on. You cannot say that a colored person is a White supremacist.
"But once you brand 60 million people as 'white supremacists,' and 'Nazis,' what can you do with them?"
Send them to Greenland? Re-education camps?
Ironically, the Democrats' front-runner, Joe Biden, is a racist.
He tried to prevent Kamala Harris from attending an integrated school when she was a little girl.
Also, Biden supported the US Senate's worst racists, even though such support would turn out to be hurtful to Cory Baker several decades later.
Most of us have gained an immunity to the charge of racism. It's such a lame charge anymore that it's easy to shrug off.
The real damage the Democrats will do to Trump's campaign is thru the economy.
They're now promoting a "possible" coming recession.
This is like worrying about being sick. If you worry enough you'll make yourself sick
Convincing enough people a recession is coming will cause a recession. People will start to behave in a way that will bring about the recession you worried about. They'll wait to buy that new house. They'll wait to open up that new business. They'll put off expanding their currently successful business. They'll make all kinds of decisions that will lead our economy into a recession.
Which is what the Democrats want
Which is why they've waited until now to start talking about it. So it'll hit just in time for the next election.
This is why you are heading for a national divorce.
This propaganda is not new at all.
It is ancient in your schools, and it is intensifying there too.
It’s not just about one election.
You still don’t have a counter-propaganda, especially not in education.
Correction to my own comment at 10:43 AM
I inadvertently wrote the expression colored person.
I meant to write Person of Color.
Please make the mental correction.
@Eric,
The real damage the Democrats will do to Trump's campaign is thru the economy.
They're now promoting a "possible" coming recession.
True. Trump has, amazingly, weathered several political tsunamis that would have taken most Presidents out.
The economy is the big one. If it starts to go south, it's gonna be tough.
The Dems are so despicable, they hope and will try to make the economy go south, because defeating Trump is more important to them than anything else.
@Buwaya,
"You still don’t have a counter-propaganda, especially not in education."
Ahh, you underestimate the power of the Commentariat......
Richie rich bubble dweller Bill Maher is hoping for a recession.
Hollywooders can ride it out. Screw the rest of ya.
They keep telling me that Trump is an authoritarian and a nascent, if not a full blown, Hitler. Now, I am not a fan of Trump. Never have been. Didn't vote for him. Don't like him and don't like a fair amount of his policies. But the more I hear this canard that Trump is leading us to Triumph of the Will circa 1935, the more convinced I am that I will vote for him in 2020. Because Trump = Hitler, or Trump = Racist, is just a lie. A fucking lie. Trump is not Hitler. He is just gross and uncouth compared to our expectations of modern presidents, although really is he grosser than JFK? Is he more racist than LBJ? You only use this kind of rhetoric because you either have no argument against him or you are completely blinded by irrational disgust. Jonah Goldberg still said it best:
Trump is not Hitler. Hitler could have gotten Obamacare repealed.
The same people who excuse Hillary's use of a Private Server while heading the State Dept. want to rule over you, you white supremacists.
This is what happens when you spend the last 30 years investing in and putting all your money on the public-affairs/public-relations-is-just-as-good-as-policy square of the roulette wheel.
They really really talk a good game, the whole Goebbel's 'a lie oft repeated enough' game.
But that's over. Silo-less information distribution has robbed them of the control they once enjoyed, and their repeated gaffes, failures, and failed investments have caught up with them.
Desperation is a stinky cologne.
"What was the embittered left — Democratic presidential candidates and their media allies — supposed to do when their hopes of Russia-Trump collusion crashed on the boulevard of broken dreams?"
Admit they were wrong?
Gain a little humility that the world they want to completely make over is not as they believe it to be?
Nah, just pivot to racism.
Here's the real question: after racism fails, what's left short of violence?
This is the first recession I can recall that was heralded by help wanted signs, and as I saw the other day, TV ads for factory workers.
Hillary assumed before the election that there was a class of people called Trump voters, and a class of people called Hillary voters, as if nobody could be persuaded to change from one to the other. She decided that there was actually no point in trying to change anyone's mind, so she didn't seriously campaign, even when she wasn't wobbling and fainting waiting for her limo. The Dem party is continuing this mistake.
But once you brand 60 million people as 'white supremacists,' and 'Nazis,' what can you do with them?"
1 - Take their guns away
2 - ???
3 - Workers' Paradise.
Blogger Mike Sylwester said..."One problem with the word racist is that you can say that a colored person is a racist too.
That's why we all are supposed to say White supremacist from now on. You cannot say that a colored person is a White supremacist."
Ohhh…. I wondered where this white supremacy stuff was coming from. It was out of left field. All of a sudden, it was white supremacy, white supremacy... That makes sense. Thanks.
Anyone remember Baghdad-Bob? Great great PR guy. Seriously. I know, I debriefed him after he was caught. He was great up until he ended up broadcasting on IQCTV that everything was ok while you could see 3rd BCT Abrams on Tikriti Road moving into the center of town behind him.
You can only talk a good game for so long until you actually have to produce results. The media is Al-Sahaff now with the exception that he's still saying everything is ok long after 2016 is over.
It's transitioned from understandable to just plain sad.
This next election should fully test how truly effective relentless propaganda still is in our modern age. You have the bulk of the MSM constantly blaring out the #Orangemanbad and anyone who supports him is also bad messages. You also have Google supressing stories in their index that are bad for team (D) and up-indexing stories that are bad for Trump. Doubtless Facebook will be attempting similar manipulations in terms of their news feeds. Not to mention Twitter surreptitiously suppressing, blocking, banning, and shadow banning conservatives under the aegis of preventing "hate speech".
Unfortunately for them, it's impossible to completely kill all counter messaging. There's just too much to control. The internet is a vast and wild beast with too many moving parts.
"You still don’t have a counter-propaganda, especially not in education."
Ahh, you underestimate the power of the Commentariat......
I think kids, based on my grandkids, are growing BS detectors.
Granted, they are in charter school but that was because the teacher in 4th grade could not do the math problems using Common Core, not politics.
"Because Trump = Hitler, or Trump = Racist, is just a lie. A fucking lie"
I don't remember reading about how all the German comedians mocked Hitler and all the German newspaper editors came out against him once he took power.
The most obvious reply to all the airheaded pundits and celebs who scream "Nazi!" is that if Trump really was one, they wouldn't dare bitch about him in public - or even in private. Solzhenitsyn made a private joke to a "friend" about another tyrant, Stalin. That's what landed Solzhenitsyn in the gulag.
This is what happens when you spend the last 30 years investing in and putting all your money on the public-affairs/public-relations-is-just-as-good-as-policy square of the roulette wheel.
This latest campaign about racism and 1619 are about suburban white women like Ann. Can they get them convinced Trump=Racism ?
I'd like to see Althouse fisk Derbyshire on what is a white supremacist
https://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/RadioDerb/2016-12-02.html#05
So much would be impossible to claim if people had to account for what they mean by white supremacist.
Everybody knows the sound but the meaning is a fog.
Is the MSM run out of the faculty lounge at UW? From White Privilege to White Supremacy? Really?. Need to unfund all that admin overhead at the universities and school systems. Those people can learn to .... weld! That's the ticket!
Mike Sylvester:
You don’t think the left can call Candace Owens, Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, or Glenn Loury white supremacists?
That’s adorable.
It's like power. Power doesn't exist, and is a reification error. Power exists because there's a word for it, so it must exist. So you can gain it, lose it, fight for it, usurp it, recover it.
But there's no such thing as power. There's auctoritas, potentas, officium and imperium. Make somebody say which they mean and their claim collapses.
potestas
The consequences of propaganda are permanent.
One can assume that a propaganda campaign is limited to one conflict, with short or medium terms goals.
But people and their societies don’t work that way. This stuff, when taken to heart, stays in hearts, and even crosses generations.
That is why 1920s-60s Soviet propaganda systems messaging persisted thirty years beyond the death of the polity they were created to serve. Messaging of this kind is like letting loose autonomous, immortal war-machines. They may persist for centuries.
Too bad there were no comments on that article. Would've been fun.
My impression is that the usual suspects are starting to beat the drums for "recession" now, as a back-up for the blaring trumpets of "race! race! race!".
Not necessarily a bad idea - freaking people out about their financial security often works, and the economy always crashes and burns sooner or later. And, as a tactic, a lot less risky than going balls-to-the-wall on "race! race! race!". Strong backlash to that is inevitable, and the odds of completely losing control of the demons you've so foolishly summoned way too high.
Power, the reality, exists.
You can argue about words because words are pathetic.
They are a poor way to describe reality.
Arguing about words is also pathetic.
Racism increases when the yield curve inverts.
The Dems are so despicable, they hope and will try to make the economy go south, because defeating Trump is more important to them than anything else.
They tried to lose a war to defeat and stymie W, so this is an improvement.
I agree with what nonapod said "They're well aware that they could never persuade them to vote (D) anyway. They're attempting to appeal to swing voters by making the argument something like "You don't want to be associated with racists, do you?"
Some of the liberal reporters I follow on Twitter advocate against trying to appeal to Trump voters. Arguing something along the lines of them being irredeemable racists and white supremacists.
I've also heard people equating Republican with racist as if it were a given. This began during Obama's presidency.
Schmacism. Keep an eye on banks making bad home loans.
The Democrats' strategy is three-pronged:
1. Appeal to low-information voters who still buy their claptrap.
2. Steal as many votes as they can.
3. While their allies at Google, Facebook, and YouTube deplatform and silence conservative voices and inconvenient facts.
@Michael K
I recall a leftist-leaning friend of mine asking rhetorically, "is there anyone more stupid that an independent voter?"
I wish I'd have responded at the time, "Yeah, a suburban white soccer mom."
The timid, faux-intelligencia, book-and-wine club, vapid herd-cunts that remain undecided on Hillary or Warren because 'muh vagina'.
I refer to them collectively as the Dependopotomoi. Strong. Independent. Ecuated. Utterly terrified of being unpopular at the next baby shower. Them.
All national elections are about changes on the margins. Trump beat Hillary because he got marginally more of the White Democrat working class vote. He did not do all that bad among Black and Hispanic voters, for a Republican.
The fear among Democrats is that Trump will make marginal gains among Blacks and Hispanics and that they are not sufficiently motivated to turn out for the Dem nominee in large numbers. Hence, the shrill racism charge.
My wife (a traditionally liberal Democrat like AA) worked with Trump in NYC in the late 80's. She doesn't like him and thinks he is an egotistical sexist. She also believes that he is well intentioned, very generous and definitely NOT a racist.
She will not vote for Trump, but none of the Dems (one of whom she will vote for) excite her. The Media will really have to pump up the Dam Nominee to excite the traditional base.
eric @10:48 AM: Sorry, boorishly overlooked your comment; didn't mean to parrot your point about recesssion.
@buwaya,
Power, the reality, exists.
You can argue about words because words are pathetic.
They are a poor way to describe reality.
Arguing about words is also pathetic.
True and deep.
But, remember, power in America is diffuse. Most folks don't live in SF. Most folks don't read the NYT. They are spread throughout this vast country, away from the ugliness of the big cities. Some folks call it "flyover" country. Don't fret, there's a lotta power there.
One advantage of the actions of today's democrats/progressives is that it makes very clear who the real neo-nazis of today (and yesteryear) are.
When they call Trump a racist, a homophobe, or a xenophobe, they are simply lumping him in with the rest of us "deplorables". And of course that tends to increase the probability that we deplorables will be "With Him" in the 2020 election to coin a phrase.
Now White Supremacist is a bit of a different kettle of fish as an epithet. It's got a bit more sting than a simple minded charge of racism. Most of us deplorables are fairly proud--we won't concede that we are "inferior" to any other human being; most, but not every last one of us, will say that all others are our equals. We accord the respect to others that we believe should be given to ourselves.
Now if you are a coastal progressive "elite" you don't believe much of that. You know that you are better then those deplorables; you know, if you are white, that all other whites are guilty of enjoying "white privilege" and you know that that is a bad thing in the abstract. OTOH you gobble up all the goodies that attend to "white privilege" and feel not a qualm of shame about that. So sod off you useless twits!
Lucid-Ideas said...
I refer to them collectively as the Dependopotomoi. Strong. Independent. Ecuated. Utterly terrified of being unpopular at the next baby shower. Them.
8/21/19, 11:26 AM
Nice. Ex-military? I recognize the reference less for the pseudo-Greek, more for the body type.
Anyways, Google and Facebook are trying to crank electoral manipulation to 11, and under the average Republican President that would be enough to doom their re-election chances.
Trump isn't average, whatever else he is. I am personally pushing for him to seize a television station at minimum, maybe one of the Big Tech companies. I'd prefer Google, but meh. He absolutely has the temperament to use the DOJ for declaring the death sentence of a major American corporation, revoking their corporate charters entirely, and I believe we will see that happen.
My Lefty Bingo Card has "Shame" in 3 places. I am SO screwed. Can I get a new card?
Original Mike nailed it with the very first comment. Nothing else needed to be said.
"You also have Google supressing stories in their index that are bad for team (D) and up-indexing stories that are bad for Trump. Doubtless Facebook will be attempting similar manipulations in terms of their news feeds. Not to mention Twitter surreptitiously suppressing, blocking, banning, and shadow banning conservatives under the aegis of preventing "hate speech".
Have any conservative think tanks done research on how we lost Facebook Google and Twitter? Is it because of conservatives Shrugged off the social justice Warrior movement that's now turned out all these HR Nazis and co-workers mimicking the Red Guard? Or is it because conservatives are seen as weak and passive, prompting people to believe "oh, they won't make a fuss but the SJWs will crack our skulls open with bicycle locks, so let's go with the strong horse."
It's quite a loss when you think about it. How did we let this happen?
"Things are looking really bad for them, no matter what they bullshit the polls into saying."
Aside from Insty reminding us: "Don't get cocky, kid!"...
... I think this election will go down as one of those where you don't remember who lost. Dukakis? Mondale?
"Have any conservative think tanks done research on how we lost Facebook Google and Twitter?"
I don't think any have. But I have a very good idea how it was done. I have seen it happen.
This goes back to education. These people are created in college.
It is the result of that indoctrination campaign.
It has the ability to affect even powerful, self made people, through various channels. Consider how "they" got to Linus Torvalds (creator of Linux), through his SJW children.
The left and its media allies have not recognized the sea change among Republican voters.
We've had four years of seeing what happens when we make a stand and fight. Whatever his flaws, Donald Trump is a fighter and has exemplified what I think will be a new political philosophy that is aggressive and unapologetic.
The Dems/MSM think that Romney voters will be turning out. Huge mistake.
"Everybody knows the sound but the meaning is a fog.”
That’s on purpose.
Piers Morgan is now making similar claims. It gets me that these guys -- Kass and Morgan -- get cred for these commonplace observations on the Trump right. We all knew all of this so, so long ago. I give no credit to Kass or Morgan or any other Johnny-come-lately who thinks he's seen a flash of insight.
Fuck 'em.
Well said.
They don't expect to get the vote of Trump voters. They're trying to get them to stay home.
GBF: Have any conservative think tanks done research on how we lost Facebook Google and Twitter?
The people who founded and built the above are progs. Conservatives didn't "lose" them, they never had them in the first place.
Is it because of conservatives Shrugged off the social justice Warrior movement that's now turned out all these HR Nazis and co-workers mimicking the Red Guard?
Partly. Conservatives have been very passive about tolerating this stuff.
Or is it because conservatives are seen as weak and passive, prompting people to believe "oh, they won't make a fuss but the SJWs will crack our skulls open with bicycle locks, so let's go with the strong horse."
The pooh-bahs at those companies aren't afraid of SJWS. They agree with them 100%, and are happy to fill their HR departments with them.
Trump got 13% of the black male vote in 2016 according to exit polls. I suspect Trump will get over 20% of that demographic in 2020, especially if the candidate is Warren or Biden.
Hillary won 89% of the black vote according to the exit polls, and Trump won 8%. I think Trump could easily double that percentage in 2020 if the economy stays out of recession.
I don't think this racism card works anymore.
The sea change is that Trump is getting improved polling numbers with Black and Hispanic voters. Up to 50% with Hispanic voters in two recent polls and 36% with Black voters vs. 19% in the same poll at the same time last year. Same/same polls are particularly instructive. Changes like this could make a Trump landslide in 2020 a real possibility.
So that leaves the Democrats with suburban white women, the most uninformed and irrational people on Earth if my wife's friends are any indication. And a looming recession. That's where I expect to see the Democrats go in the next 15 months.
Nonapod said... They're attempting to appeal to swing voters by making the argument something like "You don't want to be associated with racists, do you?"
That fits with the way they roll but the best it will do is get the swing voters to shut up about their support for Trump. So long as my vote is private I can vote for Trump and no one will ever know.
Kinda like what happened in 2016.
I'm not so sure this "Racism" campaign is working.
Even "The Week" is seeing the bullshit.
There's no denying that the much-lauded "1619 Project" at The New York Times is a remarkable achievement. Whether it's an achievement that the paper and its staff should be proud of is another matter.
For those who haven't been following along, this past weekend the paper devoted the entirety (just under 100 pages) of The New York Times Magazine, along with a separate stand-alone section of the Sunday paper, to a breathtakingly ambitious and ideologically radical undertaking — nothing less than the telling of the story of American history, perhaps for the very first time, "truthfully."
Inside, a note from NYTM editor Jake Silverstein informs his readers that it is wrong to trace the true origin of the United States to the founding of the English settlement in Jamestown, Virginia, in 1607, or to the landing of the Puritans at Plymouth Rock in 1620, or to the publication of the Declaration of Independence in 1776. Instead, the Times proposes to overturn such mythmaking in favor of an effort to "reframe American history," treating 1619 as "our nation's birth year."
This is early but I think it is too far fetched.
""our nation's birth year.”
Birth of a nation, you have to hand it to them on that one.
I used to work in software. Conservatives are the kinds of people who like the work and keep at it, lefties like control, so they seek it by forming “committees” etc. Not to mention that the left has been pressuring major corporations to put lefties on their boards.
Ask a typical Republican if he wants to write code or serve on a committee.
I have spent many years attempting translations of fairly straightforward texts, military histories and administrative papers.
The concepts are clear - an event, say - in some morning 150 years ago two companies of infantry land on a South-East Asian beach. But the original words add, maybe, additional implications about the difficulty of the landing, the time it took, the attitudes of the leadership, the state of the troops, and where or if this fits in the overall plan, such as it is. All of that is veiled in words in one language, and you have to convey such nuances, to the degree you can tease them out, in another.
Translation is a frustrating hobby, and it makes you contemptuous of language.
AAT said...I used to work in software. Conservatives are the kinds of people who like the work and keep at it, lefties like control, so they seek it by forming “committees” etc.
There's a certain type of leftie who works in software. They can often be thoughtful and some of these people aren't entirely unreachable or unpersuadable. But it's a challenge because they tend to take any story that appears on NPR, NYT, or Huffpost as absolute unquestionable gospel and will generally dismiss anything that contradicts it as lies out of hand, especially if it appears on Fox News. For the sake of a stable work environment it's often easier to simply let them believe what they're reading is true. Conservatives, by our very nature, don't like to rock the boat. Being disruptive generally goes against our basic nature.
"But once you brand 60 million people as 'white supremacists,' and 'Nazis,' what can you do with them?"
Destroy them.
Anyone got any examples of President Trump's racism? Either as president or before?
No?
Didn't think so.
The "Muslim ban" doesn't count because 1) Islam is not a race and 2) There never was a ban on Muslims. Only on people from 7 countries regardless of religion and representing about 10% of the world's Muslim population. Sorry Dick.
John Henry
I see:
I wasn't all cool with Trump until I saw a political rally that made me question A) his movement's political utility B) his intentions, and C) that of his movement - I got suckered into the DEMOCRAT'S PIVOT and Trump and the Republicans (with their sterling reputations on race, despite Romney and the 2012 autopsy, they did nothing about) had nothing to do with it.
OK, that's clear enough.
Blow it out your asses, bullshitters. You're talking to yourselves again.
Trump blew his landslide. He still looks to win, but he blew it. Like Bill with Monica, they just can't resist their worst tendencies, and part of that is - when they're winning - y'all don't call them on it.
Trump looks to me, now, like Hitler eyeing Russia (what else has he got?) and the Republican Party should be telling him to sit down. He's done enough. Thanks. They'll take it from here.
Instead, the idiots wi'll march to Stalingrad....
The real problem in America today is not racism. The real problem is 28.
As in 28% approval rating for PDJT in the black community. Probably higher than that given the natural reluctance of people in general and blacks in particular to publicly admit supporting PDJT.
Approval in the Mexican-American and Cuban-American communities (A/K/A "Hispanic) is supposedly around 50% Puerto Rican-Americans might start being influenced by that too.
We can't have that. Need to pound racism home every waking minute of every day. Gotta stop that support from growing.
Blogger Nonapod said...
They're attempting to appeal to swing voters by making the argument something like "You don't want to be associated with racists, do you?"
It is an argument that may work. Our hostess is well educated and thinks for herself but she told us the other day that she didn't want to be seen as supporting PDJT because she was afraid of being called a racist.
Since most of what PDJT has done in the past couple years seems to be in line with the things she would like a president to do, this may be the primary reason for her not supporting PDJT.
At least my impression of what she would like a president to do based on her posts and comments here. It's all I have to go on.
As I pointed out the other day, I find it odd that she would be scared of being called a racist yet she lives in Madison. Perhaps the most racist city in the US.
John Henry
"But once you brand 60 million people as 'white supremacists,' and 'Nazis,' what can you do with them?" Stand by to be shelled and boarded, of course.
Thinking about the recession scam/scare. The candidates should be asked if when they take over in 2012 we are in a recession what they would do to get us out of it?
PDJT has already shown that if there is a recession, he know what to do. He doesn't have to tell us how he would get us out of one, all he has to say is "Look at my record"
What about those other fools? They might have all sorts of bizarre plans but they have no track record.
And you want to try someone new vs someone who knows what they are doing? And has done it?
Not in this lifetime.
John Henry
@John Henry:
As in 28% approval rating for PDJT in the black community.
It's ironic given that so much of the charge of racism against Trump comes from his immigration policy. Yet black Americans would be the cohort most positively affected by a strict policy of immigration restriction. Blacks are disproportionately represented in low-skilled jobs and are thus most exposed to the wage compressions caused by a massive influx of low-skilled workers from Latin America. The construction and restaurant industries are two prime examples.
Every day I run into black people working in places I didn't expect to see them. These are people who I suspect were not working during the Obama years. This morning it was the masonry crew who showed up to install a new fireplace at my neighbors house. Four black men, including the owner of the company. Last week it was the crew who came to trim my oak tree. Before that, it was the teenage boy at Arby's who was a little short on experience but long on effort.
Black people are not stupid. Black unemployment is at an all time low. If they want a job, they can get a job. Couple that with the growing awareness that the Democrats have been blowing smoke up their butt for years as thing went from bad to worse. Obama bragged about how many people he added to food stamps. Trump can be proud of how many people found jobs - 1.7 new jobs in manufacturing, construction and the building trades since Trump took office.
Trump doesn't have to get a majority of the black vote. He just has to just cut into the margin. An increase from 8% to even 15% would tip more that a few electors and congressional seats in the Republicans direction.
Who is going to promise the most free goodies?
You've got the D-party promising free stuff to EVERYONE.
Free stuff for illegal entrants. Reparations. Free dept payments. Free healthcare for illegal entrants. Free healthcare for all! who will pay? just you nevermind.
Only the working stiff is stiffed.
That's a path to total destruction.
Nostradamus on reparations: The promise made will not be kept. But please, do vote.
debt (not dept)
"Instead, the idiots wi'll march to Stalingrad...."
You are all marching there together. It does not matter about election victories or landslides, or Trump and not Trump, these are temporary, passing phenomena. The empire will fall whether or not Stilicho or Aetius saves part of it for a few seasons.
You have a caste war between white factions and everyone else is just make-weight.
Every day everyone (that matters) gets more bitter about everyone else.
Instead, the idiots wi'll march to Stalingrad....
Pedantic point alert, but there hasn't been a Stalingrad for almost 60 years.
@buwaya:
I agree completely but prefer to put it a bit more succinctly: America is doomed.
"Trump blew his landslide."
Crack: anti-Trump because he should be winning by enough.
Farmer: anti-Trump because he should be building the border wall faster.
"Trump looks to me, now, like Hitler eyeing Russia (what else has he got?) and the Republican Party should be telling him to sit down. He's done enough. Thanks. They'll take it from here."
Sounds dire. What movie are you watching? Can I get "Trump Doom" on Netflix?
"Instead, the idiots wi'll march to Stalingrad..."
Better than cowering with the Vichy back in Paris, listening to Kristol and French lecturing us about their "principles"
You have a caste war between white factions and everyone else is just make-weight.
Pardon me but, when was the last war whites lost ? I agree about those who want to join the enemy but...
Democrats are so bored by their own candidates they can only get their pussy wet by talking about Trump. How are they going to beat him? I guess we shall see. I am no Mick. I can’t see the future.
"Pardon me but, when was the last war whites lost ?"
Both sides are white.
We need Mick.
Mike K is right — John Kass is an excellent columnist and writer.
One of the few opinion journalists around whose opinions are actually worth reading and not hopelessly corrupted by the DC bubble or Leftoid politics.
We are all, in the long run, doomed. The notion that Trump is ephemeral is true, but among his durable accomplishments is the destruction of the GOP which is rebuilding itself, in which process some of the old guard have been thoroughly disintermediated. This group includes elected officials, policy wonks/academics, journalists, etc. Something similar appears to be occurring within the Dem Party, where we can also expect durable and meaningful changes up to and past the next national election. While Trump will not be successful even in two terms at reversing national decline or uprooting the most regressive forces in our society, he's shown who the enemy is domestically, and how to fight them: at the ballot box, but more importantly in the culture and rhetorical battleground. We are eventually doomed, but there's reason for hope if for no other reason than that our elite consensus on our era being one of managing our decline (to their own benefit) has been shattered.
@Fen:
Farmer: anti-Trump because he should be building the border wall faster.
I am not anti-Trump, and I am not pro-Trump. I don't find that kind of framing very useful. When Trump does things I agree with and support, I'll support them. When he does things I don't agree with and don't support, I won't. It really isn't more complicated than that. Unlike the Never Trumpers and the Ever Trumpers, my criteria for judgment isn't "Trump did it." In fact, if you replaced Trump with someone else who did the exact same things as Trump, I'd have the exact same opinion. My opinion is based on the decisions and the policies, not the person making the decisions and the policies.
On the geopolitical front, Trump has already dramatically increased the perception of American resolve and might, which is to say he's increased our power. That may well be squandered by whoever follows him, but it turns out that actually wielding your power, when you're the most powerful nation in the world, is relatively quick and straightforward.
well the standard is did they do a, b, or c,
@daskol:
On the geopolitical front, Trump has already dramatically increased the perception of American resolve and might, which is to say he's increased our power.
Completely disagree. Take the areas of foreign policy that have most consumed Trump's presidency: North Korea, Iran, and Venezuela. So far the administration has not achieved any of its stated goals on these three fronts. North Korea continues to possess nuclear weapons and test missiles, the Iranians have evinced no willingness to come to the table to negotiate a "better deal," and Maduro remains in power as Bolton's fantasy of a quick ouster fade.
As Obama spied, Clinton colluded, Obama obstructed, journolists judged, progressed, they were left to invent new witches to hunt, new warlocks to judge, and conceive new babies (e.g. color nationalism, color supremacy, diversity) to be planned for political, corporate, and social progress.
The John Kass article is spot on, but the Federalist has three terrific articles addressing the NYT's indoctrination campaign in a more scholarly way:
U.S. History Doesn’t Need To Be ‘Reframed’ Around Identity Politics; It Already Has Been
The myth that students and readers are getting some rose-colored version of American history is nonsense. So what is the 1619 Project really trying to do?
By David Marcus
AUGUST 20, 2019
https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/20/u-s-history-doesnt-need-reframed-around-identity-politics-already/
No, America Wasn’t Built On Slavery, But Faith That All Men Are Created Equal
By reframing America’s founding around slavery, the New York Times' 1619 Project misreads history along with the role Americans played in realizing the ideals of the Declaration.
By Joshua Lawson
AUGUST 21, 2019
https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/21/no-america-wasnt-built-slavery-faith-men-created-equal/
The Ghost Of John C. Calhoun Haunts Today’s American Left
The irony of the New York Times’ 1619 Project is that it embraces the critique of the American Founding espoused by the leading defender of Southern slavery, Sen. John C. Calhoun.
By John Daniel Davidson
AUGUST 20, 2019
https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/20/ghost-john-c-calhoun-haunts-todays-american-left/
And if charges of racism don't work they can pivot to... the economy/recession.
Today on CBS News after Trump's remarks at the AmVets National Convention:
"Trump Downplays Recession"
h/t Mollie Hemingway
One thing that Trump has shown the world. North Korea is an instrument of Chinese foreign policy. China has decided that they need to keep Trump from being re-elected so they set their little dog to barking. If they wanted to help him get re-elected, they would bring their yapping dog to heel. This should be clear to anybody working on the problem from now on.
China is interfering in our elections. Nobody cares because they are interefering on the side the newspapers prefer. I think it’s “Fen’s Law” that says that whatever the left are yapping about, you can be sure it’s nothing they care about. Of that, they never speak.
New housing starts at five year high. Help wanted signs abound. Oil prices low. I suppose they can manufacture a market crisis as an "October surprise” using high frequency trading.
and in the Mediterranean,
https://theothermccain.com/2019/08/21/italy-will-salvini-become-prime-minister/
Trump has already dramatically increased the perception of American resolve and might
Since the perception had been in the toilet since the fall of Saddam, the difference is exaggerated. Same thing happened in the Clinton era until 9/12/01. Remember the years of hand wringing over Bosnia?
When everything in America is racist then nothing is.
Look for the Right to drop the boy as usual. Plenty of defensive "Hey, we're not racists" and "The NYT is So wrong about 1619, read my long-winded article about how the foundering fathers weren't that bad" and "George Washington had slaves but we should forgive him". It pathetic.
The NYT's and libs hate America. They hate white people. They hate Trump and want a D in the White House. Its that simple. Sorry for being so blunt. Constant Defense loses.
what are they going to do, pout more like French and boot,
https://babalublog.com/2019/08/21/miami-cuban-american-carlos-trujillo-considered-for-top-latin-america-post-at-state-dept/
'They're now promoting a "possible" coming recession.'
As I began hearing more of this talk in recent weeks I was reminded of an Allstate Insurance commercial from 2008 that said "If this isn't a recession, it sure feels like one." I thought that was an incredibly irresponsible thing for an insurance company to be pushing.
Watch the first minute or so of the video if you want to see what serious news orgainizations like MSNBC are saying about Trump.
https://www.steynonline.com/9635/planted-joke
It’s must see TV for all life long Republicans.
"Constant Defense loses."
This is true.
You have to destroy your enemies' infrastructure.
In your case, if I were to choose targets, you need to destroy your universities.
I do not mean reform, I mean destroy, disestablish them, drive them out of business.
""If this isn't a recession, it sure feels like one.”
If this IS a recession, it sure doesn’t feel like one. Usually during a recession, they don’t have to make the same person making keys and mixing paint at the Home Depot. In fact, my go to economic indicator is that if service sucks, it’s because employers at those jobs are reduced to working the dregs.
Anybody seen Chuck lately ? "The Bulwark " stepped in it again.
Democrat Front Group The Bulwark Claims That Pence Said "You Didn't Build That" (Spoiler: He Didn't)
This group is obviously being funded mostly by Democrat money. They're now just another Democrat front group. They're not even pretending to be otherwise.
But shouldn't they, you know, pretend a little better?
I'm sure they have no ethical qualms about lying. They're just too lazy to bother.
serious news organizations and MSNBC are oxymorons,
"I do not mean reform, I mean destroy, disestablish them, drive them out of business."
I'm with you man. Just gas up the B-52 and lets do some saturation bombing!
MK: "Anybody seen Chuck lately ?"
He is likely pondering his next steps now that his RolCon fake conservative pose has been irredeemably smashed beyond any hope of reconstitution and, thus, his usefulness to the dem/lefty cause under his current persona is in question.
LLR Chuck's problem, like that of his ally Inga the lunatic lefty, is that their styles are so recognizable that it will be impossible for LLR Chuck to change names and begin posting again as someone else as his knuckleheaded pal Inga did.
Blogger AAT said...
One thing that Trump has shown the world. North Korea is an instrument of Chinese foreign policy. China has decided that they need to keep Trump from being re-elected so they set their little dog to barking.
Not sure this is true. Kim said that if the US did not hold joint exercises with S Korea, he would not shoot any missiles or do any nuclear tests.
PDJT postponed the exercises and Kim kept his word. Then the exercises were held and Kim started shooting "projectiles". And he says he will stop once the exercises finish.
I wish he wouldn't do this but it is hard to fault him. He views the exercises as threatening to NK and he is threatening back. Sort of threatening back. Seems reasonable to me.
Did anyone else notice that in many of the news stories of the past weeks Kim is shooting "projectiles". I found that name very strange. A projectile, to me, is something that is projected, thrown, shot. I suppose a missile, that goes under its own power, is a projectile but I don't recall having seen this usage before.
Some stories said they were "missiles" and I assume they were the same as the projectiles. I could not find anything about the usage, though.
Someone else said that PDJT has not come through on NK. I would add "yet". He has made more progress in 2 years than everyone else combined has made in 70. It would be a nice surprise if it went faster and more smoothly. It would still be a surprise.
I feel reasonably satisfied with what has been done there.
John Henry
A *relatively* high Trump Black approval rating will not result in many black votes. but it may result in some black people saying "I'll stay home, I don't really care that much". Its not much but its better than a kick in the head.
How long before people realize David French and the whole Never-trumper gang are just Democrats in disguise? How much longer can they keep the Con going? Now, its "Hey, lets lose in 2020, elect Liz Warren, and then come back with a TRUE Conservative in 2024". Does anyone believe that?
Great great PR guy.
"We will grill their bellies on the gates of hell." Unfortunately, I can't easily find that quote on youtube.
’How long before people realize David French and the whole Never-trumper gang are just Democrats in disguise?’
About three years ago.
’How long before people realize David French and the whole Never-trumper gang are just Democrats in disguise?’
Vichy French! (no pun intended).
A couple of commenters have already hinted at the “revenge" that awaits.
Yep. The same commenters who chastise us for 'spite' voting eagerly await their chance at revenge.
Darkisland, ballistic missiles and cruise missiles are two different things.
Cruise missiles are powered and controlled all the way to the target, so it would be inaccurate to refer to them as "projectiles".
Ballistic missiles, on the other hand, are thrown (hence the word "ballistic"). Since the engines are internal, they essentially throw themselves, but they're still thrown. "Projectiles" is a correct term in this case.
In fact, my go to economic indicator is that if service sucks, it’s because employers at those jobs are reduced to working the dregs.
Yup. At my local AZ Home Depot, they are hiring any teenagers and old farts who want to work. Most of these folks seem clueless to me. I suspect that their good employees have found better paying jobs.
The economy is a vast Goliath affected by way too many variables to use in a prediction model. Economists have little understanding of the current situation. They seem better at understanding the past. However, if you placed all the world's economists end-to-end, they would never reach a conclusion.
" but it may result in some black people saying "I'll stay home, I don't really care that much”
That’s how Trump got elected, and Trump has done his best to repay the favor with jobs jobs jobs. It’s the AA community that is led around and told what to think by the white left that is upset with Trump, and that isn’t many of them. The majority of blacks correctly do not view Trump as racist.
Now, I am not a fan of Trump. Never have been. Didn't vote for him. Don't like him and don't like a fair amount of his policies.
That's exactly where I was in 2016. I live in a state where my vote doesn't matter, so I wrote in a name.
But the actions of the left during the past three years have turned me into someone who will crawl over broken glass to vote for him in 2020.
Fuck them.
You still don’t have a counter-propaganda, especially not in education.
There is a counter-propaganda, beginning with national establishment in principle, if not always in practice, but a progressive lapse to effectively deliver ("indoctrination") it. And, of course, voluntarily kneeling and operating within the little boxes ("frame of reference") constructed by competing interests, not limited to semantics, faith, science, religion, history, and logic.
I hesitated for a full two minutes after filling out the rest of the ballot, and threw up a little in my mouth when I finally decided to vote for him. Now he’s like our Obama.
Beasts to rcocean:
’How long before people realize David French and the whole Never-trumper gang are just Democrats in disguise?’
About three years ago.
The only people who think that this is news to anybody are the Never-Trumpers' liberal bankrollers (and certain LLRs). The Never-Trumpers themselves are no doubt well aware that everybody else is long since wise to their bullshit, but see no reason to put an end to a nice comfy jobs program by letting their donors in on the joke.
I see no reason to correct the latter's misperception. Wouldn't want them throwing their money at something that actually promotes their agenda.
What was the embittered left — Democratic presidential candidates and their media allies — supposed to do when their hopes of Russia-Trump collusion crashed on the boulevard of broken dreams?
They could have run Hillary out on a rail for leading them into the tar pit.
They are trying to court minorities in Obama's base and new illegal immigrant voters. Minorities who normally didn't vote at all or weren't here last cycle. Hence all the wacky polices with no possibility of attracting a soft political middle. Forget that. Race, race, race, free, free, free...
"You still don’t have a counter-propaganda, especially not in education."
This a million times over. The left has been indoctrinating kids and teachers who teach the kids for decades. If you burned down the colleges today and rebuilt them on conservative principles it would take decades to nullify the harm done.
"Republican Party should be telling him to sit down. He's done enough. Thanks. They'll take it from here."
A sound idea in principle, but your assumption is that the Repubs are capable of that. I don't see that they are, as evidenced by the 2016-2018 Congress.
with one exception:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/08/20/i-dont-know-what-antifa-is-democratic-candidates-asked-on-camera-to-denounce-terrorist-group/
well the chipmunks were seeking revenge for their ground hog brothers,
https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/21/technical-issues-de-blasio-video-call/
Will the NY Times pivot to "Race. Race. Race. Race. Race." make race relations in the U.S.:
A. Better
B. Worse
Will the NY Times pivot to "Race. Race. Race. Race. Race." make the quality of life for African Americans:
A. Better
B. Worse
Both answers are "B."
Pick that scab.
What was the embittered left — Democratic presidential candidates and their media allies — supposed to do when their hopes of Russia-Trump collusion crashed on the boulevard of broken dreams?
Let's keep in mind that the whole purpose of the Russian Collusion Hoax was to cover up the Obama administration spying on the Trump campaign. There was never any evidence to convict him of anything, and they all knew it. All of them.
If Trump quit because of the smears, that was gravy, but the POTUS would still be a Republican.
All of the LLRs candidates (Jeb, Romney, etc) would have done the "honorable" thing and resigned.
probably so:
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2019/08/21/cbss-king-obamas-netflix-deal-celebrates-our-core-values-human
’Pick that scab.’
No doubt. Of course, the dems have never given a rat’s ass about African Americans - other than scamming their votes.
They had invested so much in their fantasy that President Donald Trump was a treasonous agent of Russian boss Vladimir Putin. But when special counsel Robert Mueller’s report came out, and there was no collusion, no crime charged, their fantasy collapsed.
Conservative George Conway III tells it like it really is:
In ... essence ... in 2016, the United States was attacked, ... by a hostile foreign government, through the use of technology, lies, and deception. In “sweeping and systematic fashion,” the report tells us, the Russian government interfered in an American presidential election, seeking to affect its result, and to undermine public confidence in our politics ... All patriotic Americans ought to agree: We must do everything we can to see that it never happens again.
That was ... the job that former FBI Director Robert Mueller was assigned—to conduct a counterintelligence investigation ... and included a prosecutorial focus: If he uncovered crimes, he could charge them ... in particular, given some unusual links between some in the Trump Campaign and agents of Russia—including a campaign manager with financial ties to a Russian oligarch and Russian-backed Ukrainians, and a foreign policy advisor whom a court found to be an “agent of a foreign power,” namely Russia—Special Counsel Mueller’s job was also to find out the extent of those links. (The report ... [did] not address ... the nonlegal concept of “collusion,” [but] in the end found many more such links.)
Trump fired an FBI director because the FBI director wouldn’t make a public statement Trump wanted about his status in the investigation—and then bragged about the firing to, of all people, the foreign minister of the Russian Federation and its ambassador to the United States.
The President relentlessly attacked the investigation over the course of two years. And he tried to sharply curtail it, and even kill it altogether. Repeatedly. The President ... hated that it made it seem he hadn’t actually won the great election victory of which he liked to boast.
The President tried to fire the special counsel. He directed his White House counsel to tell the acting attorney general that the special counsel could not serve because of a contrived, nonexistent conflict of interest, and thus had to go. The White House counsel, putting the law and the nation’s interests above the President’s personal interests, refused . . .
If the Mueller report demonstrates one thing, it is that President Trump utterly failed to carry out his duties under the Constitution—that indeed, he shamelessly abjured them. It is time for members of Congress to do their duties and to hold the President to account.
That's why we all are supposed to say White supremacist from now on. You cannot say that a colored person is a White supremacist.
So what do we call all those African would-be immigrants desperate to come here? Schizophrenic? Stupid? Or maybe, just maybe, they're smarter than the Democrats think the voters are.
china, is picking the low hanging fruit,
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/08/china-admits-to-holding-employee-from-uks-hong-kong-consulate/#comments
Have any conservative think tanks done research on how we lost Facebook Google and Twitter?
No research needed. Facebook, Google and Twitter are full of Very Smart people who are way too smart for religion but way too stupid to realize that they have fallen hook, line and sinker for the false religion of Wokeism and are far more theocratic than any Christian inside of three or four centuries.
"Projectile" vs "missile" vs "cruise missile" etc etc, consider seriously that few newscritters and fewer of their viewers or readers have any idea of the differences . . . which may be just as well.
Particularly with military hardware, nomenclature can be tricky and sometimes deliberately misleading. Please, anyone who can sort out what the NORKs have been tossing, let us know.
Narr
Stalingrad, huh?
The Donald was never going to get a landslide.
Too many angry, motivated people and votes stolen.
gadfly just learned of Kellyanne Conway's angry husband.
Conservative George Conway III tells it like it really is: HAHAHAHAHAHA
"that a colored person- "
"Colored Person" - racist
"Person of Color" - not racist
Conservative George Conway III tells it like it really is"
LOL. Conway is the disgraced former husband of Kelley Ann - the first woman to run a Presidential campaign, who just happened to pull off the most stunning political upset in American history.
She dumped "Conservative George" after he was caught giving blowjobs on the back patio of the DC Eagle on "tranny night".
George Conway has less credibility than Michael Avenetti. And you really should stop falling for men of such low character. Is it due to self-loathing?
"Colored Person" - racist
"Person of Color" - not racist
The former refers to character, ambiguous, divergent, weird in the extreme. The latter refers to skin color, commonly race, sex, and other low information attributes when and where color does not matter.
You cannot say that a colored person is a White supremacist.
Technically, yes. See above. Person of [monochromatic] color, no. Perhaps a peach supremacist. Pink? Albino! A diversitist or color [judgment] supremacist, yes. Hutu vs Tutsi. Han vs lower castes. Mandela factions lynching competitors. Mongols laying waste to Asia, Russia, etc. Islamic imperialism. Leftism without borders. Nazis et al selecting and aborting Jews and fellow whites for social progress.
Green Day's '"Boulevard of Broken Dreams" is a song by American punk rock band Green Day, recorded for their seventh studio album American Idiot (2004).'
"I walk a lonely road
The only one that I have ever known
Don't know where it goes
But it's only me, and I walk alone
I walk this empty street
On the boulevard of broken dreams"
Better than Beyonce is a low standard.
Cuz I thought the phrase "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" sounded lame.
Anybody here share my view that America is not doomed? I'd like to hear from you.
Too many Wormtongues, faithless, accursed.
What do you suppose the odds are that Antifa and the Proud Boys serve the same paymaster?
I meant to write Person of Color.
Please make the mental correction.
"Population groups" vary in their value, more than they do in their hue or saturation.
So, rather than "person of color", the more accurate and meaningful phrase would be "person of relatively lower value", which also avoids the artificially defined binary social construction of "of color" vs "not of color".
She dumped "Conservative George" after he was caught giving blowjobs on the back patio of the DC Eagle on "tranny night".
have the impression they are still together but would be surprised if it lasts second term.
Mary Matalin and cue ball don't seem that angry,
"doomed?"
No, but I do think that we'll have to shed the hundred million or so crazies.
@Roughcoat,
Not only do I share your view that America is not doomed but I also believe that tomorrow will be a new, glorious day. This looks very much like the Battle of the Bulge, Hitler's last stand. And Donald Trump looks very much like George Patton.
"Too many Wormtongues, faithless, accursed."
I am not one of you, so I have no obligations here.
I don't see anything being done, at all, about your worst problem, which is the root of most of the rest.
it's like invasion of the body snatchers, the seed pods keep getting planted, journolists and other echo chambers keep getting funded,
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/dhs-announces-new-rule-end-catch-and-release-asylum-seekers
they seem to be trying to circumvent the odious codicil that Stephen Reinhardt, imposed on the flores settlement,
Yup. At my local AZ Home Depot, they are hiring any teenagers and old farts who want to work. Most of these folks seem clueless to me.
I asked a HD employee where the dowel rods were. He didn't even know what a dowel was. Employee number two was the same. It took the third employee to help me. He didn't know what they were either, but he had an app that told him what aisle to look in.
Original Mike said... "But once you brand 60 million people as 'white supremacists,' and 'Nazis,' what can you do with them?""
Start putting them on trains.
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Remembe Bill Ayres and Bernadine Dohrn and their merry little band of terrorists? That is exactly what their long-term plan was. For 25 million people they believed needed to be removed in order to achieve their utopia.
'a foreign policy advisor whom a court found to be an “agent of a foreign power,” namely Russia'
So much to unpack here, but this one's easy. You make it sound as though this person (just say "Carter Page," it's not as though it's a secret) was "declared" by a court to be a spy for Russia. I'll go ahead and say what I think really happened, and we'll soon see if Horowitz agrees with your characterization or mine: the FISC authorized a warrant to spy on Carter Page, and the DOJ lied when they made their application to the court. So yeah, the FISC deemed Page to be a Russian spy, but they were definitely lied to (McCabe said no Steele dossier, no FISA warrant, so the dossier had to be a critical part of the warrant application; court not told the dossier was funded by Trump opposition; FBI couldn't corroborate the dossier; FBI distanced itself from Steele; etc. etc. etc.).
gadfly,
Slowly back away from the Kool-Aid.
@Roughcoat,
Anybody here share my view that America is not doomed? I'd like to hear from you.
Put me squarely in the not-doomed camp. I do think the left is a menace, and there are too many vichy Republicans. But, I think Trump has awoken a sleeping giant; namely, normal working Americans who simply want to raise their kids, pay the mortgage, keep separate bathrooms for men and women, and live their lives without overreaching government or nagging politically correct leftists.
’Anybody here share my view that America is not doomed?’
I’m very bullish on America - the most I’ve been since Reagan.
"...what can you do with them?"
The Democrats will offer them redemption in exchange for their votes.
Hey BAG, how do I find the poop apps? I am going to SFO to the American College of Surgeons in October. It'll be my first time there in ten years. Maybe buwaya knows.
The ACS cancelled three years ago. Is it any better ? I notice that they have a course on LGBTQ surgery this year.
"Anybody here share my view that America is not doomed?"
Some of us have the luxury of pessimism; others of us find it irrelevant nuisance – the choice is optimism or extinction, or maybe both; but never pessimism.
Remembe Bill Ayres and Bernadine Dohrn and their merry little band of terrorists? That is exactly what their long-term plan was. For 25 million people they believed needed to be removed in order to achieve their utopia.
To jumpstart the Revolution, children needed to kill their parents.
I was in grade school. I remember thinking, why would I want to do that?
Ayers Daddy was a bigwig at Commonwealth Edison I think. White privileged protection. Notice he didn’t follow thru with his father.
Doc K,
Heh! -- you don't need the poop app for SF. You just need to pinpoint where City Hall is, and the Bart station that services it: >Civic Center/UN Nation plaza
Then, once pinpointed, make sure you stay at least 1 to 2 miles from that area!
Hopefully, your conference is on Nob Hill, at the Fairmount Hotel -- not a lotta poop up there.
For those in the optimism camp, here's some recent fundraising data for the two parties.
Is this Cruel Neutral?
@ Fen's applies both sides
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/conservatives_vs_liberals.html
Poop map
https://www.openthebooks.com/map/?Map=32504&MapType=Pin&Zip=94103
Does google maps tell you where to find public toilets? ... Apparently it does in India.
I am not one of you, so I have no obligations here.
I don't see anything being done, at all, about your worst problem, which is the root of most of the rest.
Of course you have obligations. The fact that you deny this demonstrates that you and people like you are part of the problem. As I said: faithless, accursed.
Thanks to those who expressed agreement with my view.
After the nation elected Obozo the Magnificent, the race card was officially cancelled, but the moronic national media, evil and dumber than a box of rocks, hasn't figured that out.
Ayers Daddy was a bigwig at Commonwealth Edison I think. White privileged protection. Notice he didn’t follow thru with his father
Tom Ayers was a Liberal.
He ran a regulated monopoly - a government Deep State scam.
I like the Battle of the Bulge analogy.
For those who keep asking what "white supremacy" is, a place to start is the Wikipedia article on "Madison Grant" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Grant at the point where the article begins to talk about "Nordic Theory." I have read the article carefully and it is an accurate and up-to-date account. Madison Grant was the most influential advocate of white supremacy in the US from 1900 to the late Thirties. Hitler called Madison Grant's book "my bible."
Leaving Wikipedia, I say that:
The article "Madison Grant" mentions Lothrop Stoddard's book, The Rising Tide of Color Against White World Supremacy. Stoddard helped found the American Birth Control League with Margaret Sanger. For him, birth control was to be a weapon to maintain white supremacy. He was a member of the KKK and was popular among the Nazi theorists. The American Birth Control League evolved in to Planned Parenthood and as such it continues to contracept and abort disproportionate numbers of the babies of people of color. Some sweet souls think this is just an accident. Sanger, Stoddard and Madison Grant were all members of the American Eugenics Society.
So white supremacy also means supporting Federal or state payments for abortion and birth control in minority communities.
However this attempt at black genocide by using birth control and abortion is not what a Democrat or the NYT would mean by white supremacy. "White supremacy 2019" means that slavery existed and all white people, because of their base, evil natures, want it back or as an close approximation to it as they can get. But the Americans and of the Americans, the Deplorables (a term now expanded to mean all Trump supporters) are the nastiest and most white supremiest of them all. Why is this going on considering that Americans fought a war the free the slaves and elected Barack Obama twice? It's scapegoating. In 2019 in the large Democrat-run cities and other areas in the US which have adopted socialist policies, the blacks are doing poorly in terms of school graduation rates, in terms of jobs, and in terms of committing and suffering from crime or in terms of any other measure you care to adopt. "White supremacy 2019" means that these Democrat-controlled cities and counties are to be thought of as controlled by Republican Deplorables (how?) and the Deplorables are to be the scapegoats for the Democrats' failures. So the Dems can win in 2020.
The Deplorables will not be fooled. And it's my opinion that blacks will not be fooled either though how they express their contempt will depend on various internal conditions.
"Anybody here share my view that America is not doomed?"
I believe we are at the beginning of a spiritual revival. Every 4th generation since the founding of our country has seen a revival. The last was in the 1920's and here we are. Trump is the chemo and is wiping out the cancer of the "elites". How could any person of even moderate intelligence think the government should have any substantial control of our lives anymore? The Left has to argue that our government is controlled by Hitler, and at the same time, Hitler should control every thing in our lives. The cognitive dissonance is overwhelming!
@Jalanl:
I believe we are at the beginning of a spiritual revival. Every 4th generation since the founding of our country has seen a revival.
Since 2013, non-white births represented more than half the births in the country, and within a couple of decades, whites will be less than half the country. Even assuming that your "every 4th generation" claim were true, the US is heading for unprecedented demographic change.
"you are part of the problem. As I said: faithless, accursed."
That's laying it on a bit thick. I think Buwaya's outsider's insights are quite valuable; calling him "part of the problem" would be like a Trojan citizen calling Cassandra "part of the problem". I mean, step up and prove him wrong.
Of course you have obligations.
To piggyback off Paco, precisely what "obligations" do you believe buwaya has?
But, I think Trump has awoken a sleeping giant; namely, normal working Americans who simply want to raise their kids, pay the mortgage, keep separate bathrooms for men and women, and live their lives without overreaching government or nagging politically correct leftists.
Those people are making up less and less share of the population with each passing year.
Some of us have the luxury of pessimism; others of us find it irrelevant nuisance – the choice is optimism or extinction, or maybe both; but never pessimism.
To quote my favorite British curmudgeon Peter Hitchens: "Pessimism is the key to happiness. I don't know how anyone manages without it."
To me, optimistic conservative is practically an oxymoron.
Of course America is doomed--every great empire and civilization is, from the start. People love to compare us to the Romans (and we are like them most in our vices) but they managed to be both decadent and dominant for centuries . . . and were often their own worst enemies at that.
Narr
Hmmmm
"I like the Battle of the Bulge analogy”
Are you talking about that piece about the catfight between those “polyamorous” girls over Dick?
Crack,
You mean Republican ball carriers like carbon tax Mittens Romney?
I meant to write Person of Color.
Wait, did you mean to write Person of Color or did you mean to write Person of Color?
Because if it's the wrong one, we have a problem...
buwaya: I don't see anything being done, at all, about your worst problem, which is the root of most of the rest.
Ah. What do you think our worst problem is?
"Ah. What do you think our worst problem is?"
Your universities. The root of it all.
They train and indoctrinate your leadership, of all kinds.
They are the nexus.
What a day, not defending Trump character yet trying to justify the Obama character. Interesting to say the least.
policraticus said...
They keep telling me that Trump is an authoritarian and a nascent, if not a full blown, Hitler. Now, I am not a fan of Trump. Never have been. Didn't vote for him. Don't like him and don't like a fair amount of his policies. But the more I hear this canard that Trump is leading us to Triumph of the Will circa 1935, the more convinced I am that I will vote for him in 2020. Because Trump = Hitler, or Trump = Racist, is just a lie. A fucking lie. Trump is not Hitler. He is just gross and uncouth compared to our expectations of modern presidents, although really is he grosser than JFK? Is he more racist than LBJ? You only use this kind of rhetoric because you either have no argument against him or you are completely blinded by irrational disgust. t:
Yes yes yes
Indeed.
The over-the-top hate and lies about Trump are going to backfire against the liar left.
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