What a fool. Did she think her past wouldn't be uncovered? Christine Ford made the same mistake when she claimed she was afraid of flying and her ex-boyfriend ratted her out about the trips on small planes in Hawaii.
There was a little hoosier, Became a big accuser, Right when she thought she’d be most piteous. When her advice was good It was very good indeed, But when she came to Donald she was hideous.
Wasn't that the time of "The Rules." What she's saying here is basically what feminist relationship gurus were saying in the 90's--use sex to manipulate.
There once was a model named Jean For rich and powerful dudes she would preen But as she aged She felt trapped in a cage Now only lies can sooth sagging esteem
She came off as nuts and obnoxious The media as always obsequious If she would look in a mirror It'd be that much clearer It's not Trump but demons in her subconscious
I think this is a comic-rape fantasy and really should be on SNL, if anywhere. Only no one can imagine anyone in this day and age having a comic-rape fantasy, least of all about Donald Trump and a liberal lady. But this liberal lady has been pushing the boundaries all her life with jokes and - well, look at the clues. First of all she herself has mentioned that rape fantasies are fun for her. Then: Bergdorf has no sales clerks, the fitting rooms are empty, a man goes into the ladies' fitting rooms without notice, the Liberal Lady is wearing very high heels (and that's the sort of comic part of the scene as she struggles to keep her balance), Liberal Lady must be wearing stockings of one kind or another since she's in high heels - why don't the pantyhose or stockings/girdle inhibit the action? This all unreal.
Another sign that she isn't serious: She tells this story in a book and then she's surprised when CNN takes her story seriously. Really?
Can we please get her testifying before a congressional committee or something else on C-SPAN where these videos can be played and she can be asked to comment? Seriously, doesn't Congress have 15-20 hours it is not using for anything else where this can be slotted in?
she herself has mentioned that rape fantasies are fun for her
"I think most people think of rape as being sexy -- think of the fantasies," she said.
How FUCT is that. It this a statement of diversity or a principled observation? Perhaps an inference with the hope to normalize a fringe sexual orientation.
Yes Ms. Hickylips... wait till he really wants to marry you. Great advice.
Now days sex is just 'hi' to most of the crowd. If you get VD.. bummer. If you get PG.. abort the 'inconvenience'. If you get HIV.. they can keep you going for decades now.
There is no question of self respect. It's only if it feels good.
Pitiful. And E. Jean is right. Wait... all things come to those who wait.
Althouse I'm guessing that your intended blogging comment with this was not, "Bitch had it coming."
But you've left me wondering what was your thought behind posting this, without comment. It's not clear; although you certainly know your blog's current general demographic well enough to know that their comments would be something in the vein of "Crazy bitch had it coming."
Don't make him beg. Sadomasochistic fantasies are not suitable for sophisticated women and men. Do expect a courtship and commitment. Friendship with benefits progressed with casting couches.
To review. Self-moderation, check. Personal responsibility, check. Reconciliation, check. Almost a former n-wave feminist. So close.
To Ms. Carroll You belong in a cell And your life has run the gamut Your mind is not well As most people can tell Trying to hide in plain sight But you cannot
She's not as credible as the Kavanaugh accuser. Avenatti had the most gravitas. Smollett was pretty good, but he's a trained actor.....I don't think the media is as much behind her as they were for Christine Ford Blasey, Avenatti, and Smollett, but the amount of credence they are granting her serves to subvert their own credibility.
Ok..so more willing to concede lying about the rape, (which DTJ set himself up for), but less willing to concede the whole sort as a lie. So maybe a half lie DJT deserved.
walter said... Ok..so more willing to concede lying about the rape, (which DTJ set himself up for), but less willing to concede the whole sort as a lie. So maybe a half lie DJT deserved.
bAlthouse I'm guessing that your intended blogging comment with this was not, "Bitch had it coming."
But you've left me wondering what was your thought behind posting this, without comment. It's not clear; although you certainly know your blog's current general demographic well enough to know that their comments would be something in the vein of "Crazy bitch had it coming."
You assumed the dressing room meeting occurred and the rape did not. It is sort of like the Kavanaugh hearing where some people assumed Brett was at a party with CBF when there was no evidence that he even knew her.
That is why people are giving you crap. They think you are going after Trump like the rest off the lunatic lefties.
As pointed out over at Instapundit, this 'fantasy rape' in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman's is a scene out of Law and Order: Special Victims Unit Season 13, Episode 11.
You'd think people could come up with better lies by now.
at least change the store name, they should sack the copy editor, of course it's new York magazine, they'll glorify frank lucas, whitewash the ground zero mosque (same writer who wrote a terrible Godzilla takeoff) cover Weinstein with a cloth, till it was convenient,
Someone commenting at the Instapundit blog had the great suggestion that E. Jean be invited to be the moderator at the Democratic Presidential Nominee debate, because she'd fit right into that clown car.
I’m purposefully leaving the space above blank. That way you can fill it in with whatever reply you think I might have made and you can finally have the kind of debate you’ve been itching for.
Also, I’m a registered member of the communist party.
Not really, but I’m leaving that statement there as a stand alone paragraph in case anyone would like to take it out of context.
In Michigan lies a big lake And there lives, ’tis known, quite a flake fixated, it seems each time fool’s gold gleams He never once learned from mistake.
>>As pointed out over at Instapundit, this 'fantasy rape' in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman's is a scene out of Law and Order: Special Victims Unit Season 13, Episode 11.
>>You'd think people could come up with better lies by now.
Here's the spin, expect it at any minute:
Law and Order says their stories are from today's headlines. Everybody "in the know" in NYC knew about the rape, so the series decided to do a show on it.
So it's not a lie, it's proof it actually happened.
You seem awfully certain that Ms. Carroll is lying. I don't know how you can be so certain. Feel free to share that part if you can.
I don't know if she is lying. Repeatedly, I have said that I cannot say what the truth is about her allegations.
But unlike you, I know that Trump is lying about Ms. Carroll, and I can tell you exactly how we all know that. Trump said that he had never met her in his entire life. And that is certainly not true. And it has certainly been untrue in the past on many other occasions when Trump has gotten into credibility fights with different people and claimed that he had never even met them, only to be shown time and time again that there is no doubt but that Trump had met them.
Trump is a stone cold, sociopathic, regular, repeating liar.
Except they change the premise and the scenario, like when they handled the nick berg case, but made zarquawi if not a villain, someone with a reasonable gripe, their take on the shooting in Tucson, was deeply insane, oddly after a year, there hasn't been a grasping producer in their panoply of plots,
I see. The episode aired in 2012. So, they were simply waiting more than seven years - and until Trump became President - before bringing the story to the public.
In order to sell a book.
Trump should be ashamed he put himself in this position. I've lost any sympathy I had.
You’ve got him this time Chuck! You have proven who stole the strawburry ice cream with geometric logic!
“Meep meep!”
What was that?
This seems consensual to me as the facts come out, so whatever. This is “letter to Penthouse” stuff. She said it wasn’t rape, she was playing a sex game with him, by her own story, so, as I said, whatever.
Remember how concerned the New York Times was about Juanita Broaddrick? Had they gone after Bill on much harder evidence, including a witness who testified on threat of perjury to finding her in the hotel room bloody and crying, I would maybe respect them a tiny bit more. Like you, they make a carbuncle out of every nit, and a mountain out of every molehill.
How about recently, when they did a piece about how Fairfax and quilted northam, had gotten away with sexual assault, and at best grossly unprofessional student behavior, because they have heen holding the pillow, like the indian with randall McMurphy,
"Carroll claims in her book that five or six men sexually assaulted her in the 1990s. Carroll is now 75 years old. In 1995, she would have been 51. How could a mature woman, a sophisticated New Yorker and savvy professional, allow herself to be sexually assaulted five or six times? Wouldn’t she smarten up after the first time, or at least the second time, and stay away from situations that could set her up for an attack?" https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/06/25/democrats-newest-weapon-accusations-sexual-assault-hurts-claim-support/
We went over this the other night- Trump doesn't remember meeting her, to say that he never met her is not a lie- it is, at worst, a mistake. What is really hilarious about your comment is that it is internally inconsistent. I am no social butterfly, but I have probably met thousands of people I wouldn't remember if you showed me their face, told me their name, and told me who they were- I would say I had never met them in my life.
From the Wikipedia entry on Roy Cohn, as regards Pixies: "When Cohn brought on G. David Schine as chief consultant to the McCarthy staff, speculation arose that Schine and Cohn had a sexual relationship. Speculation about Cohn's sexuality intensified following his death from AIDS in 1986. Although some historians have concluded the Schine–Cohn friendship was platonic, others state, based on the testimony of friends, that Cohn was gay. During the Army–McCarthy hearings, Cohn denied having any "special interest" in Schine or being bound to him "closer than to the ordinary friend." Joseph Welch, the Army's attorney in the hearings, made an apparent reference to Cohn's homosexuality. After asking a witness, at McCarthy's request, if a photo entered as evidence "came from a pixie", he defined "pixie" as "a close relative of a fairy". Though "pixie" was the name of a camera model name at the time, the comparison to "fairy", a derogatory term for a homosexual man, had clear implications. The people at the hearing recognized the slur and found it amusing; Cohn, however, later called the remark "malicious", "wicked", and "indecent.""
This woman's story is really unbelievable in totality. That no one went of the record to support it tells me it is most likely a lie. If I am being generous, I would pull an Althouse and give her credit for a false memory.
"As pointed out over at Instapundit, this 'fantasy rape' in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman's is a scene out of Law and Order: Special Victims Unit Season 13, Episode 11."
Chuck said I don't know if she is lying. Repeatedly, I have said that I cannot say what the truth is about her allegations.
I know the President is innocent. Innocent because he has not been adjudicated. Innocent because he has not been charged. Innocent because their is no corroborating evidence.
President Trump is innocent. That makes this female a liar. ******
Kay thinks Trump should not put himself in a position he never put himself in. Now she's mad because people have pointed out the incongruity of her position.
We went over this the other night- Trump doesn't remember meeting her, to say that he never met her is not a lie- it is, at worst, a mistake. What is really hilarious about your comment is that it is internally inconsistent. I am no social butterfly, but I have probably met thousands of people I wouldn't remember if you showed me their face, told me their name, and told me who they were- I would say I had never met them in my life.
No. Trump's having said, "I never met her in my life," is literally and figuratively untrue. Trump has now been hammered about it in the press, and has not clarified it or walked it back. Does Trump now admit that he met her, but claims that it was a casual, forgettable one-time meeting?
And then there is the fact that Trump has repeatedly used this falsehood attack. With other female accusers, and with regard to others with whom Trump finds himself locked in controversy. He must think that it works for him and that the lie is less damaging than the controversy of the moment. But they are lies nonetheless.
That was an admirable attempt at logic with Chuckles. However, it was wasted, if not misguided.
As Chuckle's mental health deteriorates, he is increasingly unable to deal with logic and increasingly unable to manage his erotic obsession with Trump.
Did Spellcheck write "erotic" instead of neurotic?
That awkward cut to commercial after "rape is sexy" makes me think Anderson Cooper was not properly prepped by his team about what sort of interview he was walking into.
you showed me their face, told me their name, and told me who they were- I would say I had never met them in my life.
I explained this when Chuck picked this mule to whip. I have been in at least 9 wedding receiving lines. To say I "met" those people I hugged and wished well and happy futures, is nuts. I have danced with maybe 100 women. Women I never "met". Alas, another mule whipped to death at the hand of smear merchant Chuck.
Remember, wide-stance degenerate chuckservatives mainlined Blather-Ford and Julie Swetnick at the American people, only to watch one scurry back under her rock and the other be referred as the target of a criminal investigation for her ridiculous teenage gang-rapist fraud. They wish death upon the President, but hold back because it might be politically inconvenient. They speculate that the only reason President Trump would stick up for moms wary of autism is because his son must have some secret autism. Of course they'll heavily promote a woman who listened to stories on Hunter Thompson/ Law and Order before concluding, "Hey, that happened to me!"
Chuckservatives are evil sick subhumans, and one more reason that the legal system needs an enema to flush their kind back into the sewer.
"As pointed out over at Instapundit, this 'fantasy rape' in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman's is a scene out of Law and Order: Special Victims Unit Season 13, Episode 11."
And Matt Sablan asked: -- Wait, really?
Really. I saw the show posted on Twitter with a note to start the show about 45 minutes in.
It takes about five minutes to watch, because they're questioning suspects, but it ends with them mention that the judge had a sexual fantasy about committing a rape in the Bergdorf dressing room.
E. Jean Carroll tells @Lawrence that she will not seek rape charges against Donald Trump because it would be "disrespectful" to women at the boarder "who are being raped around the clock"
Please tell me again; why we should not be thinking that this lady is cray-cray?
The expert's advice: get a guy stimulated into a frenzy of sexual tension and excitation, expressing his eternal love, and begging for the slightest sexual favor. According to Prof. Althouse, legally speaking, even after all that stimulation a woman (or man) can still exercise right of refusal at the last minute. I don't find that a realistic expectation. Back in the day once I was past adolescence (where kissing and making out is OK, intercourse is NOT) I came to the conclusion that there was absolutely no point in heavy petting unless you intended to have intercourse.
I watched a Youtube interview with Shonda Rhimes where she discussed her total stalking level infatuation with men characters she had created in Grey's Anatomy. Shonda Rhimes talks about the men of Grey's Anatomy This leads me to ask, if someone really believes their fantasy is it still a lie? Yes it is not true, but that doesn't mean the fantasy isn't "real" and deeply felt by her. IOW, the subconscious mind doesn't distinguish between fantasy and reality.
@Althouse , Do you enjoy your readership, they are appalling and its not as if they provide intelligent conversation so that can not be it. I am honestly curious if you like the comments on your blog or what do you make of it? you rarely reply in the comments and I can see why, however some of the content you post seems like you are at the same time courting your angry white male retiree community. Case in point the curious decision to post this video and not this one of E. Jean Carroll in her own words when its more relevant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL4B448958847DA6FB&time_continue=2&v=zi4DSmdUdng
Pecan Pie Truther and racist poster Chuck, Kay, Amanda and the other leftists are really having a bad day as another of their endless stream of daily lues and smears is exposed as just that.
This will not stop as they have nothing else.
The good news is no one anywhere is fooled by the lies Chuck and Team Dem have been peddling against republicans for 60 years.
And we owe a big thank you to Donald Trump who has exposed them all.
iowan2 said... you showed me their face, told me their name, and told me who they were- I would say I had never met them in my life.
I explained this when Chuck picked this mule to whip. I have been in at least 9 wedding receiving lines. To say I "met" those people I hugged and wished well and happy futures, is nuts. I have danced with maybe 100 women. Women I never "met". Alas, another mule whipped to death at the hand of smear merchant Chuck.
Your reaction, if asked about such people, would be to say, "I don't remember him/her." I've been in many receiving lines, etc.
Not, "I never met her in my life."
And if you did claim that "I never met her in my life, and you were then shown the picture of you at the wedding, outside of the receiving line, chatting with her; damn right I'd expect you to say, "Sorry, I may have been mistaken. I did not recall meeting her but it appears I did meet her."
You contemptible fucking jackasses. You have adopted Trump's immorality. Shame on all of you.
George Conway's Twitter account today re-Tweeted a Lindsey Graham Tweet from the day after the Access Hollywood video broke in the news. Graham had written, "Name one sports team, university, publicly-held company, etc. that would accept a person like this as their standard bearer?"
Twenty-five years ago Bergdorf Goodman didn’t have security to prevent men from going into womens’ dressing rooms? Must be a low-class joint, sort like Marshall’s, cheaper. Amirite?
She did say to CNN's chagrin on CNN that some consider rape to be sexy. That claim is supported by sales of millions and millions of copies of hundreds of versions published word porn mostly to women.
It’s more important that the POTUS never be accused of anything than that he has little interest in foreign wars. Yeah, Iran almost provoked him into one, but he made the right call. Hillary turned Libya into a “shit show” as Obama called it, where you can now buy enslaved women in open markets. She poured gasoline on the civil war in Syria by sending in weapons, the resulting waves of refugees from these two ham fisted military misadventures.
During the Kavanaugh hearings many of us learned a new word "Boof" which, in Kavanauh's teenage milieu meant "fart".
I don't recall ever hearing the word before in that context and, based on discussions here, in the press and in the hearings, not many others had either. Much merriment was had discussing the word.
We all apparently lead sheltered lives. Ms Loony Tunes was using the word as far back as 11/2/2007.
She made a YouTube video titled "I boofed my best friend's boyfriend"
She is doing he advice thing and someone has written in to say that they had fucked their besfriends boyfriend and asked her advice on what to do.
Well, the boyfriend is male and thus a scumbag. The bestfriend must be told what a scumbag he is and if the writer won't do it, she should send Ms LT the name and address and she will tell her herself!!
It is pretty amazing video. Kind of horrifying, actually, that there are women out there who seem to take her advice seriously.
But the funny part was that her use of "boof".
So not that this cleared up, that we now know that Kavanaugh was lying both literally and figuratively about the definition of the word, we can begin im
So that proves they have been in the same room together, Perhaps even talked.
I'm going with Yancy. I speak to thousands of people every year. Shake hands with them even and say "Hey, how you doing."
I have no idea who 90% of these people are. If you asked me the next day if I knew them, I would say no because they have been totally forgotten, not having made any more lasting impression than a pebble in a pond.
So we have a picture of them together in the same room. So perhaps they have "met" in some sense of the word.
Doesn't make Donald Trump a liar. Just makes him forgetful. Or Ms LT completely unmemorable.
An article in the New Yorker? I don't even need to read it to know that it doesn't feature, get this, the episode of Law and Order that this mental patient cribbed her rape fantasy from. (Thanks to TheBradfordFile.) I like to think Michael Avenatti at least employed some measure of creativity with his ludicrous client's fraudulent testimony, as opposed to propping up a woman who takes rape fantasies from others and claims they happened to her... but he's under indictment, unlike the President, so who can tell?
It's interesting that the other lawyers on this blog think that such glaring blindness to visible fraud can be excepted, while they demand the President have eidetic memory about every single person he may have been photographed next to. But the American people can see chuckservative lawyers for the subhumans they are, and aren't confused by the obnoxious pedantry.
We can count the frauds- Swetnick, Mattress Girl, Tawana Bradley, Mangum the Ugly Stripper- but this fraud didn't last a week before exposing countless "intellectuals" as credulous mongoloids.
John henry said... Thank you for the picture, Dick.
So that proves they have been in the same room together, Perhaps even talked.
I'm going with Yancy. I speak to thousands of people every year. Shake hands with them even and say "Hey, how you doing."
I have no idea who 90% of these people are. If you asked me the next day if I knew them, I would say no because they have been totally forgotten, not having made any more lasting impression than a pebble in a pond.
So we have a picture of them together in the same room. So perhaps they have "met" in some sense of the word.
Doesn't make Donald Trump a liar. Just makes him forgetful. Or Ms LT completely unmemorable.
John Henry
In light of the picture (that you demanded, and did not know existed) being featured in wide distribution all over the media, Trump not walking back his claim that he "never met this person in [his] life" makes him a laughable fabricator. Especially when he did it with Matt Whittaker.
This isn't the first time that blowhard Trump has claimed that he "never met" someone. Trump should get raked over the coals for this cavalier use of words and shameless disregard of facts and other people.
Amanda: @Althouse , Do you enjoy your readership, they are appalling and its not as if they provide intelligent conversation so that can not be it. I am honestly curious if you like the comments on your blog or what do you make of it? you rarely reply in the comments and I can see why, however some of the content you post seems like you are at the same time courting your angry white male retiree community.
Shorter Amanda: "We'll throw our baseballs in your yard"
She'll rally an online mob to deplatform you from Amazon next.
@Althouse, the sad sixty something year old men speaking like junior high special ed have buried my comment but I would indeed be grateful for a response for you.
"In light of the picture... Trump not walking back his claim that he "never met this person in [his] life" makes him a laughable fabricator."
Only to idiots like you. She's with a guy Trump is talking to as they enter or exit through a doorway. Your penchant for hyperbole and deliberately misrepresenting facts has destroyed your intellectual integrity, or you would have seen this obviously does not prove what you claim it proves.
But how is that Titleist Pro V1x investigation going, Chuckie? Do you finally have proof that Trump used the Pro V1 and not the Pro V1x as he claimed? Or do I have that backwards again?
LLR Chuck: "You contemptible fucking jackasses. You have adopted Trump's immorality. Shame on all of you."
LLR Chuck is a racist admitted smear merchant and liar who attacks children and threatens women and fully supports democrat/leftist policies that are turning the US into East Germany.
Amanda: @Althouse, the sad sixty something year old men speaking like junior high special ed have buried my comment but I would indeed be grateful for a response for you.
Amanda thinks Althouse is an idiot she can play. This will be amusing.
gilbar said... E. Jean Carroll tells @Lawrence that she will not seek rape charges against Donald Trump because it would be "disrespectful" to women at the boarder "who are being raped around the clock"
Please tell me again; why we should not be thinking that this lady is cray-cray?
She is not crazy.
She is a lying piece of shit trying to sell books and trash a political opponent.
And the democrat party is full of stalinist shit heads that use obvious lies like this to persecute and jail their enemies.
Drago: don't forget wishing the murder of the President, except it might cause some political disadvantage. Which would spark the civil war that would see him set on fire, but hey! Some professions don't have long-term thinking as prerequisites to employment.
But really, he's also marketing rape then declaring that "B-b-b-but the other guy was angry/ mistaken in his response, so he's a sociopathic liar!" The fact Americans don't demand such lawyers be tarred and feathered is probably why your society will collapse.
You hear that, guys? PAY ATTENTION TO AMANDA! She's special and we need to be extra nice to her.
I found her comment appalling. It sounded like she was threatening our hostess. "Nice blog you've got here @Althouse. Be a real shame if something happened to it."
Hopefully she is just bloviating. Just another Trigglypuff https://youtu.be/dA3VhoKCIkM
Ah, John Henry, you misunderstand her, and myself! She's just telling Althouse what a nice blog she has. In turn, Althouse could find a number of ways to give Amanda the attention she so richly deserves.
Fen: "Amanda thinks Althouse is an idiot she can play. This will be amusing."
Amanda is also demanding a special carve out whereby she can say anything she likes in advancing lefty narratives but wants Althouse to restrain anyone from responding.
Chuck, re your picture link. The other people in that picture- did Trump rape them also? If they claimed so, would you believe them as well? I doubt Trump would remember meeting a random person in 1987... I know I wouldn't, and you wouldn't either. What part of what you posted would survive as evidence in any court outside Soviet Russia or an Obama appointee?
Amanda is also demanding a special carve out whereby she can say anything she likes in advancing lefty narratives but wants Althouse to restrain anyone from responding.
She's also whining that her Noble Comment is getting buried under a Patriarchy of juvenille old white men. Maybe she's flirting with us?
Amanda said... @Althouse , Do you enjoy your readership, they are appalling and its not as if they provide intelligent conversation so that can not be it. I am honestly curious if you like the comments on your blog or what do you make of it? you rarely reply in the comments and I can see why, however some of the content you post seems like you are at the same time courting your angry white male retiree community. Case in point the curious decision to post this video and not this one of E. Jean Carroll in her own words when its more relevant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL4B448958847DA6FB&time_continue=2&v=zi4DSmdUdng
You disqualified yourself when you opined that the readership here is appalling. Life isn't a SJW fantasy camp. You have to support your claims, not just make them. Your lack of intelligence is "appalling".
Amanda said... @Althouse , Do you enjoy your readership, they are appalling and its not as if they provide intelligent conversation so that can not be it. I am honestly curious if you like the comments on your blog or what do you make of it? you rarely reply in the comments and I can see why, however some of the content you post seems like you are at the same time courting your angry white male retiree community. Case in point the curious decision to post this video and not this one of E. Jean Carroll in her own words when its more relevant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL4B448958847DA6FB&time_continue=2&v=zi4DSmdUdng
If you don't start thinking right Ann, you are going to be lumped in with the deplorables.
Amanda is just kindly letting you know you are providing a platform that people are using to spread bad ideas.
You better start cracking down or your masters are going to have to take action.
Amanda is just another stalinist piece of shit attaching her sense of morality to an obvious lie and anyone who questions the narrative will be punished.
@John Henry , On the contrary althouse is a talented writer, I read her blog after all and I had read the post when where she explains what she gets out of writing the blog but I think it is a curious situation for a writer when their readership/audience/demographic is so childish and contemptible.
Who just happened to appear when Chuck needed backup. I think Amanda is Chuck, and is proof that Chuck can feel enough Shame to use a sockpuppet to promote his latest bs.
Notice how Amanda hectors Althouse over her commenters in much the same manner that Chuck has in the past. Note that Amanda's profile and join date is conveniently hidden too.
Amanda honey, would you please unblock your profile to prove you aren't a sock account created today by Chuck?
If anyone is contemptible, it is you, Amanda. Most of us here have open-minds to others thoughts, perhaps you should attempt to open yours. It's called diversity of thought. Liberals are supposed to believe in it.
I think they lost it a long time ago, but the difference is that not even Big Tech can stop information on Swetnick and Carroll from getting out. Now Americans know that two women will not only lie about rape, but do it so obviously that one faces federal prosecution and the other faces MASSIVE ridicule for being a giant lying ho who didn't get off the carousel until she was over 50. Ironically, for all the wangs that explored Carroll, she's as barren as brick.
Anyways! Now that the weight of My Friends Say This Happened has been buried by That Chick Be Crazy, Yo, the media will have to go back to RAAAAACIST!! I'm actually looking forward to Carroll's upcoming New York magazine cover: rarely has a weekly looked like such a lumbering dinosaur as this pathetic sex-starved lunatic has her mask torn off in front of a global audience.
I really do not want to be wasting my time insulting strangers online but it is still truly a vile commentariat, I can not think of a comparable one, to where the quality between author and its comment section is so large a gap. @Althouse deserves better readers.
I think before Althouse responds to Amanda's pressing demand, Amanda should at least provide us with a recent photo - so that we could comment on her good looks or the absence thereof.
Amanda: , On the contrary althouse is a talented writer, I read her blog after all and I had read the post when where she explains what she gets out of writing the blog but I think it is a curious situation for a writer when their readership/audience/demographic is so childish and contemptible.
You have a very juvenile style of writing for someone who claims the right to judge intelligence.
Is it because Chuck is trying too hard to mask his writing style? Although it does sound more like Inga than Chuck with that last: "their readership/audience/demographic is so childish and contemptible". Or maybe this is all just ChuckIngAnda , because I find it hard to believe 3 separate commenters here could be so simultaneously stupid. The odds don't line up.
But do go on. Tell us more about how you really aren't a sockpuppet and have been "reading her blog" for a very long time. Be sure to slip in some incidental anecdotes that imply you are a longtime lurker who decided to post for the first time in 7 years... go ahead.
@Fen , althouse can see for herself that I comment under one username/ID address, I suspect this might not to be true for a few here and that is too pitable a thought.
Amanda: "I really do not want to be wasting my time insulting strangers online but it is still truly a vile commentariat, I can not think of a comparable one, to where the quality between author and its comment section is so large a gap. @Althouse deserves better readers."
Amanda, who has been here 15 minutes, goes Full Eddie Haskell immediately.
Amanda: I really do not want to be wasting my time insulting strangers online but
But you'll go ahead and do exactly that. Very much like Inga who hates hates hates us and yet keeps coming back every day to tell us how much she hates coming back here to hate on us.
where the quality between author and its comment section is so large a gap. @Althouse deserves better readers.
Right. You want us silenced because you care very much about Althouse and her blog. You care so much that you are treating her like she's an idiot who can't see through your game.
I said Chuck before, I'd like to change my vote to Inga.
Amanda: "@Fen , althouse can see for herself that I comment under one username/ID address, I suspect this might not to be true for a few here and that is too pitable a thought."
You should have called us a deplorable commentariat! Way more on brand. The fact is you're all alone here, Amanda, and the management is probably enjoying the sight of you begging for attention, only to face the ill-mannered scorn of the benighted natives!
IngAmanda: do not want to be wasting my time insulting strangers online
What an odd coincidence. Just last week I was telling Inga she should spend more time with her grandkids instead of yelling at strangers online. I think it stung her. And here you are, pre-emptively immunizing yourself against any criticism that you are wasting your time yelling at strangers online.
You seem awfully certain that Ms. Carroll is lying. I don't know how you can be so certain. Feel free to share that part if you can.
She didn’t hit up Trump for money to keep her mouth shut.
Secondly, as Trump himself pointed out, he doesn’t need to do non-consensual sex. When you’re rich and famous they let you grab ‘em by the pussy. Which is what E. Jean Carroll did, as anyone can ascertain.
Over 20 years, right? Almost a climactic event. For the sake of social justice, there is only one possible solution: burn the witch, dunk the warlock, and abort the baby. Now we're FUCT.
Amanda/Inga sternly frowns on sockpuppetry right up to point where she is forced to confront the fact that sockpuppetry is far and away a lefty/LLR thing....at which point her concerns.....disappear.
alanc709 said... If anyone is contemptible, it is you, Amanda. Most of us here have open-minds to others thoughts, perhaps you should attempt to open yours. It's called diversity of thought. Liberals are supposed to believe in it.
Don't believe it, Amanda. You are correct; the Althouse commentariat has self-selected itself into a vast majority of Trump cultists. For her part, Althouse would most likely say: (1) she rarely opines directly about the merits or demerits of any actual Trump activity; and (2) her blog-comments moderation leans toward free speech. Mostly.
She likes to blog about Trump-as-communicator. She is also sympatico with Scott Adams, who claims to not be aligned with Trump policy, but whose entire work seems aimed at defending Trump at every turn.
You're right of course, about the crude, thuggish, Trump-cult demeanor of much of Althouse's comments pages. I think she does not like it; she says she does not like it. But she is not sufficiently interested or motivated to do much about it. She's tried a couple of different moderation schemes but as of today you can see how they work. Page after page after of Trump cultists naming me for personal attacks. Her commenting instructions tell readers to "avoid personal back-and-forth with other commenters." But stick around and you will see comments pages where I have not even posted a comment but where many of Althouse's regulars attack me personally, and usually without any apparent reference to the subject of her blog post.
It's a shit show, and I have called Atlhouse out on it repeatedly. She doesn't like me, for several reasons as far as I can tell. First and foremost, my general and specific criticism of Trump runs against the grain of her collection of Trump fans. So that calls attention to me, and her commenters love to attack me personally (rather than defend the specifics of Trumpisms), and its a downward spiral. I think Althouse would rather I not defend myself. But I really got sideways with Althouse and Meade when I began to call attention to the gulf between her commenting rules (long since abandoned and replaced) and the near-complete lack of enforcement of them.
It is 100% the Era of Trump that is responsible for all of this as it relates to me. I've been an Althouse commenter for many years before the 2016 election and I was relatively little-noticed. My politics were pro-Walker, pro-Snyder, pro-Kasich, pro-Romney Republican. I supported the Republicans in the Wisconsin Supreme Court battles. I ridiculed the Wisconsin John Doe investigations law. I enjoyed Althouse's fisking of Madison's media and politics. (And I really became an Althouse fan as a fan of her law posts.) I have been a Federalist Society member and often quoted Justices Scalia and Thomas (and then Roberts) at length when we were discussing the triumvirate of homosexual rights cases (Lawrence, Windsor and Obergefell) which was another area of disagreement between Althouse and me. But nothing like what is seen on her blog's comments pages now.
My politics didn't change one bit. What changed was the social atmosphere surrounding Trump.
Chuck/Amanda: "You're right of course, about the crude, thuggish, Trump-cult demeanor of much of Althouse's comments pages. I think she does not like it; she says she does not like it. But she is not sufficiently interested or motivated to do much about it."
LOLOLOL
Althouse and Meade have taken steps to ensure the quality of the blog by specifically asking one racist bad faith vulgar child attacking poster to leave.
But LLR Chuck never did.
I cant wait to see how Amanda/Chuck responds to Chuck/Amanda's comment.
Chuck likes recounting all of his prepatory efforts in establishing his faux online persona so that he could use that to effectively "concern troll" republicans.
Unfortunately for Chuck, he lacks the necessary discipline to pull it off over the long term and on numerous occasions allowed the mask to completely and quite humorously slip.
It's surprising that there are some people who brag on being on the loser side that has precious few accomplishments, and a string of defeats. Scott Walker is completely done in Wisconsin, having magnanimously and scrupulously absolved the Derp State for its lawlessness. And sure, there are lots of people who thought he could be President. But could someone so milquetoast defeat a Chardonnay-soaked hag in his own state, much less take the country back from the cretins that used the national surveillance state against its political opponents?
Of course not.
Which is why the Romneys and Kasiches and Walkers get so much "love" after their complete impotence has been flaunted before the world. There there, baby, it happens to every guy. Except Donald Trump: I don't know how an elderly man inspires women to declare themselves the subjects of WACKADOO rape fantasies involving him, but he does it. I blame the Glorious Scalp Weasel.
You seem awfully certain that Ms. Carroll is lying. I don't know how you can be so certain. Feel free to share that part if you can.
Because a 40something year old Trump did not rape a 52 year old wrinklepuss in a public changing room that is locked and you have to get a key from the staff to get into.
Because the accusation is 25 years old and women have been coming out with every sort of bullshit story for years.
Why now? Because she is selling a book.
Because this was the storyline from law and order.
Because her statement about being disrespectful to women migrating here and getting raped every day is obvious and stupid.
Because you and your leftist friends have pedaled numerous obvious lies about your political opponents raping women everywhere.
It is obvious to every thinking person what you and your friends are up to. Even you know what you are doing.
You are all just depraved shit heads and have no shame or decency.
Trump is doing an amazing job of ripping off the masks to show people and organization's true positions.
USA Chamber of Commerce is a great example. They hate Trump's guts, and Trump knows that.
I am amazed at the amount of hatred, and back stabbing, by so called conservatives at Trump. Trump is doing amazing things from a conservative prospective, and that's ignored, and instead you getting so called conservatives, such as David French, supporting the rape accusation of this lady, that rape story is sounding VERY Fishy... Or getting upset, because Trump is Trump and punches back, and speaks with little filters. He pretty much says what he thinks. It's so politician.
The actions of Paul Ryan on supporting the Trump Agenda, make my head spin. After McCain died, there was an opportunity to get some legislation passed in the lame duck session. Nothing. How the Aswan Brothers investigation was deep sixed.
And note the length of his response, the carefully edited paragraphs. This post was the entire point of "Amanda's" set up. We're really in for it now heh.
Stop bogarting the popcorn people! Has he gotten to the part where he lectures us about shame? That's always my fav. It's like the guy doesn't own a mirror.
Chuck and his ilk are hyper focused on Trump while oblivious to the alternatives. By the way, Walker could have demonstrated more spine as his underlings got skewered.
Amanda: Whose yacht is that? Elyot: The Duke of Westminster's I expect. It always is. Amanda: I wish I were on it. Elyot: I wish you were too. Amanda: There's no need to be nasty. Elyot: Yes, there is every need. I've never in my life felt a greater urge to be nasty.
On a more serious note, Chuck describes many of the commentariat here, as Trump Cultists.
From what I can see, the commenters here are pretty well educated and my guess is if you looked at household income, it would be pretty high. Probably a bit on the older side. Lawyers are a bit over represented among her readers. More Male from the commentors. And probably pretty White.
So what would cause this demographic, to become for the most part, pretty Pro Trump?
Why are they willing to put up with Trump's:
- Over the top style. - His uncouth, shattering of what is considered polite, saying when he thinks something is stupid, and saying it's stupid. - His name calling on twitter, such as branding Jeb Bush as low energy, instead of using a proxy.
Why Indeed?
1. Trump is just a symptom of frustration with a system where the elites, elected politicians, education, Hollywood, technology, and media are for the most part out of touch with them.
2. Trump connects culturally, and these other organizations consider them deplorables and wrong think. He treats their interests with respect, and does not consider them deplorable.
3. They are tired of supporting candidates that don't fight, and allow the other side to take advantage of them. The Jacksonian culture HATES being taken advantage of.
4. They are highly cynical of the MSM, politicians, and have a low trust for anything they say. They feel lied to with slanted, biased news. They often look at other sources. They have been red pilled on their outlook on the world.
5. They are tired of being labeled as the aggressor, that it's their fault due to the race, sex, etc. they were born as.
6. Anonymous Commenting allows many to voice opinions publically, they would not dare to because of the real threat of doxing and other reprisals to their livelyhood.
some SWAG's. Perhaps Ann also got readers, such as I, from when she did guest blogging over at Instapundit. And we liked what we saw, and continued to stop on by. So blame Glenn!
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Not bad advice.
Shag? Dingbat? She's part Austin Powers part Archie Bunker...
Shaggable chap might move on to the next bint. Don't miss your opportunity!
(Google doesn't like bint, apparently. Underlined as misspelled and not offered among Google's accepted 17 suggestions.)
Good advice... except for make them beg. Grow up.
Her credibility is now less than zero.
What a fool. Did she think her past wouldn't be uncovered? Christine Ford made the same mistake when she claimed she was afraid of flying and her ex-boyfriend ratted her out about the trips on small planes in Hawaii.
Time machines needed for shagging-to-rape memory and future political pay-back accusations.
You can tell she sucks from the cock of Socialism. Metaphorically.
The future will look at 21st-century devolution with utter astonishment. A singularity of stupidity never before seen in the history of Man.
It will be know as the Epoch of Imbecility.
There was a little hoosier,
Became a big accuser,
Right when she thought she’d be most piteous.
When her advice was good
It was very good indeed,
But when she came to Donald she was hideous.
Wasn't that the time of "The Rules." What she's saying here is basically what feminist relationship gurus were saying in the 90's--use sex to manipulate.
Whatever happened to all that shag carpet that used to be everywhere?
There once was a model named Jean
For rich and powerful dudes she would preen
But as she aged
She felt trapped in a cage
Now only lies can sooth sagging esteem
She came off as nuts and obnoxious
The media as always obsequious
If she would look in a mirror
It'd be that much clearer
It's not Trump but demons in her subconscious
I think this is a comic-rape fantasy and really should be on SNL, if anywhere. Only no one can imagine anyone in this day and age having a comic-rape fantasy, least of all about Donald Trump and a liberal lady. But this liberal lady has been pushing the boundaries all her life with jokes and - well, look at the clues. First of all she herself has mentioned that rape fantasies are fun for her. Then: Bergdorf has no sales clerks, the fitting rooms are empty, a man goes into the ladies' fitting rooms without notice, the Liberal Lady is wearing very high heels (and that's the sort of comic part of the scene as she struggles to keep her balance), Liberal Lady must be wearing stockings of one kind or another since she's in high heels - why don't the pantyhose or stockings/girdle inhibit the action? This all unreal.
Another sign that she isn't serious: She tells this story in a book and then she's surprised when CNN takes her story seriously. Really?
It's not Trump but demons in her subconscious
The handmaid's tale of a once feminist with regrets.
Can we please get her testifying before a congressional committee or something else on C-SPAN where these videos can be played and she can be asked to comment? Seriously, doesn't Congress have 15-20 hours it is not using for anything else where this can be slotted in?
When? Laura Schlesinger says, "When there are two rings on the same finger of your left hand."
she herself has mentioned that rape fantasies are fun for her
"I think most people think of rape as being sexy -- think of the fantasies," she said.
How FUCT is that. It this a statement of diversity or a principled observation? Perhaps an inference with the hope to normalize a fringe sexual orientation.
It's a shaggy dog story.
Yes Ms. Hickylips... wait till he really wants to marry you. Great advice.
Now days sex is just 'hi' to most of the crowd. If you get VD.. bummer. If you get PG.. abort the 'inconvenience'. If you get HIV.. they can keep you going for decades now.
There is no question of self respect. It's only if it feels good.
Pitiful. And E. Jean is right. Wait... all things come to those who wait.
Althouse I'm guessing that your intended blogging comment with this was not, "Bitch had it coming."
But you've left me wondering what was your thought behind posting this, without comment. It's not clear; although you certainly know your blog's current general demographic well enough to know that their comments would be something in the vein of "Crazy bitch had it coming."
Don't make him beg. Sadomasochistic fantasies are not suitable for sophisticated women and men. Do expect a courtship and commitment. Friendship with benefits progressed with casting couches.
To review. Self-moderation, check. Personal responsibility, check. Reconciliation, check. Almost a former n-wave feminist. So close.
To Ms. Carroll
You belong in a cell
And your life has run the gamut
Your mind is not well
As most people can tell
Trying to hide in plain sight
But you cannot
wait till he really wants to marry you. Great advice.
The advice given to sons and daughters by their toxic fathers and moron mothers of olde.
> why don't the pantyhose or stockings/girdle inhibit the action?
The zipless f*ck was a fantasy.
I see she has her own Youtube channel, if you click on her upper left pic. What is with all the pink? Does she think she's Barbie?
Please Althouse.
Chuck has needs.
If this woman is lying, then shame on the Donald. He definitely should have known better than to put himself in a situation like this.
She's not as credible as the Kavanaugh accuser. Avenatti had the most gravitas. Smollett was pretty good, but he's a trained actor.....I don't think the media is as much behind her as they were for Christine Ford Blasey, Avenatti, and Smollett, but the amount of credence they are granting her serves to subvert their own credibility.
If this woman is lying, then shame on the Donald. He definitely should have known better than to put himself in a situation like this.
What situation did he put himself in?
Winning the Presidency?
Driving the delusional Dems and LLRs crazy by his mere existence.
Please explain.
I don’t care about any of that other stuff. I’m talking about the dressing room.
nn said.... How FUCT® is that.
fixed it for you : )
run.
Kay,
Has it occurred to you that she could be lying about the dressing room?
walter said...
Kay,
Has it occurred to you that she could be lying about the dressing room?
6/25/19, 2:38 PM
Yes it’s possible. But if he was really in the dressing room with her, then I have a lot less sympathy for him, sorry.
Ok..so more willing to concede lying about the rape, (which DTJ set himself up for), but less willing to concede the whole sort as a lie.
So maybe a half lie DJT deserved.
(Book release coincidental)
Guy Rule #8: Never stick your dick in crazy.
Corollary to R#8: Crazy is always the most fun.
walter said...
Ok..so more willing to concede lying about the rape, (which DTJ set himself up for), but less willing to concede the whole sort as a lie.
So maybe a half lie DJT deserved.
6/25/19, 2:53 PM
Lol, what??
This lady has an advice column? The female equivalent to Bob Wiley (Re: What About Bob?)
Shorter Kay: It's Donald Trump's fault this crazy bint might be making up the whole story. Shame on him.
You people have gone full nutbar.
Jim at said...
Shorter Kay: It's Donald Trump's fault this crazy bint might be making up the whole story. Shame on him.
You people have gone full nutbar.
6/25/19, 3:02 PM
Lol, if you want to just make up things up that I didn’t say, go right ahead I don’t care. Have fun arguing with your self.
Chuck said...
bAlthouse I'm guessing that your intended blogging comment with this was not, "Bitch had it coming."
But you've left me wondering what was your thought behind posting this, without comment. It's not clear; although you certainly know your blog's current general demographic well enough to know that their comments would be something in the vein of "Crazy bitch had it coming."
No. We are not saying she had it coming,
We are saying she is a liar.
Just like you are a liar.
And she is a piece of shit.
Just like you are a piece of shit.
Kay said...
I don’t care about any of that other stuff. I’m talking about the dressing room.
Which clearly never happened.
But you really wish it happened.
Blogger Achilles said...
But you really wish it happened.
6/25/19, 3:08 PM
Ok, whatever.
If this woman is lying, then shame on the Donald. - Kay
Your exact words. Nutbar.
Oh god. Harpsichord music.
Just No.
If this woman is lying, then shame on the Donald
Kay,
You assumed the dressing room meeting occurred and the rape did not. It is sort of like the Kavanaugh hearing where some people assumed Brett was at a party with CBF when there was no evidence that he even knew her.
That is why people are giving you crap. They think you are going after Trump like the rest off the lunatic lefties.
That makes total sense, Fransisco D, but I don’t have the energy to argue with “mind readers.”
Now I know how the Donald feels, lol!!
The only way I’d fuck this unremarkable woman is to re-educate her.
Kay: "Now I know how the Donald feels, lol!!"
Hmmmmm, no.
You and LLR Chuck lack the requisite foundation of success.
Again, Hillary lost.
Stop lying and get over it.
I’ll get over it, but please allow me and LLR Chuck to continue lying about it. Thanks in advance.
Blogger Kay said...
If this woman is lying, then shame on the Donald. He definitely should have known better than to put himself in a situation like this.
Do you have any information that anything remotely like what she claime ever happened?
Other than her baseless claims.
Any information at all?
If not, your comment is despicable. You should be ashamed of yourself.
John Henry
As pointed out over at Instapundit, this 'fantasy rape' in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman's is a scene out of Law and Order: Special Victims Unit Season 13, Episode 11.
You'd think people could come up with better lies by now.
at least change the store name, they should sack the copy editor, of course it's new York magazine, they'll glorify frank lucas, whitewash the ground zero mosque (same writer who wrote a terrible Godzilla takeoff) cover Weinstein with a cloth, till it was convenient,
These 2 posts are related:
Blogger Kay said...
I’ll get over it, but please allow me and LLR Chuck to continue lying about it. Thanks in advance.
Jim at: "You'd think people could come up with better lies by now."
'I’ll get over it, but please allow me and LLR Chuck to continue lying about it. Thanks in advance.'
Okay, that was kinda funny... :)
Someone commenting at the Instapundit blog had the great suggestion that E. Jean be invited to be the moderator at the Democratic Presidential Nominee debate, because she'd fit right into that clown car.
What are we doing talking about this when there are Tinder swipes to be had! Better yet, Ashley Madison ads to be clicked!
I'm getting the sense this info was added to peak interest in, and sales of, the author's book offering.
.
I’m purposefully leaving the space above blank. That way you can fill it in with whatever reply you think I might have made and you can finally have the kind of debate you’ve been itching for.
Also, I’m a registered member of the communist party.
Not really, but I’m leaving that statement there as a stand alone paragraph in case anyone would like to take it out of context.
In Michigan lies a big lake
And there lives, ’tis known, quite a flake
fixated, it seems
each time fool’s gold gleams
He never once learned from mistake.
So who is Kay? Can't be Inga. The sentences contain more three words.
MadisonMan said...
Oh god. Harpsichord music.
Just No
--
Ha!
Who sits like that?
Someone trying really hard to get attention.
>>As pointed out over at Instapundit, this 'fantasy rape' in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman's is a scene out of Law and Order: Special Victims Unit Season 13, Episode 11.
>>You'd think people could come up with better lies by now.
Here's the spin, expect it at any minute:
Law and Order says their stories are from today's headlines. Everybody "in the know" in NYC knew about the rape, so the series decided to do a show on it.
So it's not a lie, it's proof it actually happened.
Achilles said...
...
...
No. We are not saying she had it coming,
We are saying she is a liar.
Just like you are a liar.
And she is a piece of shit.
Just like you are a piece of shit.
You seem awfully certain that Ms. Carroll is lying. I don't know how you can be so certain. Feel free to share that part if you can.
I don't know if she is lying. Repeatedly, I have said that I cannot say what the truth is about her allegations.
But unlike you, I know that Trump is lying about Ms. Carroll, and I can tell you exactly how we all know that. Trump said that he had never met her in his entire life. And that is certainly not true. And it has certainly been untrue in the past on many other occasions when Trump has gotten into credibility fights with different people and claimed that he had never even met them, only to be shown time and time again that there is no doubt but that Trump had met them.
Trump is a stone cold, sociopathic, regular, repeating liar.
>>Trump is a stone cold, sociopathic, regular, repeating liar.
And you are, what, the impartial arbiter of truth?
Except they change the premise and the scenario, like when they handled the nick berg case, but made zarquawi if not a villain, someone with a reasonable gripe, their take on the shooting in Tucson, was deeply insane, oddly after a year, there hasn't been a grasping producer in their panoply of plots,
I see. The episode aired in 2012. So, they were simply waiting more than seven years - and until Trump became President - before bringing the story to the public.
In order to sell a book.
Trump should be ashamed he put himself in this position. I've lost any sympathy I had.
Interview - CNN Morning Show
I guess some people can watch that and find her credible. I don't, but maybe some people do.
You’ve got him this time Chuck! You have proven who stole the strawburry ice cream with geometric logic!
“Meep meep!”
What was that?
This seems consensual to me as the facts come out, so whatever. This is “letter to Penthouse” stuff. She said it wasn’t rape, she was playing a sex game with him, by her own story, so, as I said, whatever.
Remember how concerned the New York Times was about Juanita Broaddrick? Had they gone after Bill on much harder evidence, including a witness who testified on threat of perjury to finding her in the hotel room bloody and crying, I would maybe respect them a tiny bit more. Like you, they make a carbuncle out of every nit, and a mountain out of every molehill.
How about recently, when they did a piece about how Fairfax and quilted northam, had gotten away with sexual assault, and at best grossly unprofessional student behavior, because they have heen holding the pillow, like the indian with randall McMurphy,
"Carroll claims in her book that five or six men sexually assaulted her in the 1990s. Carroll is now 75 years old. In 1995, she would have been 51. How could a mature woman, a sophisticated New Yorker and savvy professional, allow herself to be sexually assaulted five or six times? Wouldn’t she smarten up after the first time, or at least the second time, and stay away from situations that could set her up for an attack?"
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/06/25/democrats-newest-weapon-accusations-sexual-assault-hurts-claim-support/
Woman who made her career on being a pixie that was irreverent about sex now tries to remind people that she was sexy back then.
The end-of-shelf-date for pixies might be one of the cruelest of all.
I am Laslo.
Agree with Walter. That she claims to have been sexually assaulted by multiple famous men during her 50's is just not believable.
Chuck,
We went over this the other night- Trump doesn't remember meeting her, to say that he never met her is not a lie- it is, at worst, a mistake. What is really hilarious about your comment is that it is internally inconsistent. I am no social butterfly, but I have probably met thousands of people I wouldn't remember if you showed me their face, told me their name, and told me who they were- I would say I had never met them in my life.
From the Wikipedia entry on Roy Cohn, as regards Pixies:
"When Cohn brought on G. David Schine as chief consultant to the McCarthy staff, speculation arose that Schine and Cohn had a sexual relationship. Speculation about Cohn's sexuality intensified following his death from AIDS in 1986. Although some historians have concluded the Schine–Cohn friendship was platonic, others state, based on the testimony of friends, that Cohn was gay. During the Army–McCarthy hearings, Cohn denied having any "special interest" in Schine or being bound to him "closer than to the ordinary friend." Joseph Welch, the Army's attorney in the hearings, made an apparent reference to Cohn's homosexuality. After asking a witness, at McCarthy's request, if a photo entered as evidence "came from a pixie", he defined "pixie" as "a close relative of a fairy". Though "pixie" was the name of a camera model name at the time, the comparison to "fairy", a derogatory term for a homosexual man, had clear implications. The people at the hearing recognized the slur and found it amusing; Cohn, however, later called the remark "malicious", "wicked", and "indecent.""
Nem vagyok Laszlo.
This woman's story is really unbelievable in totality. That no one went of the record to support it tells me it is most likely a lie. If I am being generous, I would pull an Althouse and give her credit for a false memory.
"But if he was really in the dressing room with her, then I have a lot less sympathy for him, sorry."
-- He shouldn't have worn that short skirt or something.
The entire story sounds like a fabrication, and a bad one at that. You could almost read such a story in the old Penthouse Forum.
"As pointed out over at Instapundit, this 'fantasy rape' in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman's is a scene out of Law and Order: Special Victims Unit Season 13, Episode 11."
-- Wait, really?
Chuck said
I don't know if she is lying. Repeatedly, I have said that I cannot say what the truth is about her allegations.
I know the President is innocent. Innocent because he has not been adjudicated. Innocent because he has not been charged. Innocent because their is no corroborating evidence.
President Trump is innocent. That makes this female a liar.
******
Kay thinks Trump should not put himself in a position he never put himself in. Now she's mad because people have pointed out the incongruity of her position.
Yancey Ward said...
Chuck,
We went over this the other night- Trump doesn't remember meeting her, to say that he never met her is not a lie- it is, at worst, a mistake. What is really hilarious about your comment is that it is internally inconsistent. I am no social butterfly, but I have probably met thousands of people I wouldn't remember if you showed me their face, told me their name, and told me who they were- I would say I had never met them in my life.
No. Trump's having said, "I never met her in my life," is literally and figuratively untrue. Trump has now been hammered about it in the press, and has not clarified it or walked it back. Does Trump now admit that he met her, but claims that it was a casual, forgettable one-time meeting?
And then there is the fact that Trump has repeatedly used this falsehood attack. With other female accusers, and with regard to others with whom Trump finds himself locked in controversy. He must think that it works for him and that the lie is less damaging than the controversy of the moment. But they are lies nonetheless.
Yancy,
That was an admirable attempt at logic with Chuckles. However, it was wasted, if not misguided.
As Chuckle's mental health deteriorates, he is increasingly unable to deal with logic and increasingly unable to manage his erotic obsession with Trump.
Did Spellcheck write "erotic" instead of neurotic?
Hmmmm...
Along similar lines:
https://spectator.us/cable-news-mental-health/?fbclid=IwAR2nq7xM2F8jwBZirQVjPFwV_rzR8AAI_eIkneTRmBBKKAYxWNz16i_Y12U
That awkward cut to commercial after "rape is sexy" makes me think Anderson Cooper was not properly prepped by his team about what sort of interview he was walking into.
you showed me their face, told me their name, and told me who they were- I would say I had never met them in my life.
I explained this when Chuck picked this mule to whip.
I have been in at least 9 wedding receiving lines. To say I "met" those people I hugged and wished well and happy futures, is nuts. I have danced with maybe 100 women. Women I never "met". Alas, another mule whipped to death at the hand of smear merchant Chuck.
Remember, wide-stance degenerate chuckservatives mainlined Blather-Ford and Julie Swetnick at the American people, only to watch one scurry back under her rock and the other be referred as the target of a criminal investigation for her ridiculous teenage gang-rapist fraud. They wish death upon the President, but hold back because it might be politically inconvenient. They speculate that the only reason President Trump would stick up for moms wary of autism is because his son must have some secret autism. Of course they'll heavily promote a woman who listened to stories on Hunter Thompson/ Law and Order before concluding, "Hey, that happened to me!"
Chuckservatives are evil sick subhumans, and one more reason that the legal system needs an enema to flush their kind back into the sewer.
It could be that if "somebody" meets so few women that the handful of women *somebody* meets are very memorable!?
Hmm:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/as_pelosis_democrats_yell_about_soap_and_toothbrushes_migrants_empty_out_western_unions.html
You know who would remember this event if it happened?
The salesclerk.
Blogger Kay said...
"If this woman is lying, then shame on the Donald. He definitely should have known better than to put himself in a situation like this."
"If this woman is lying" i.e. this did not happen. So: if this did not happen, then shame on Trump for letting it happen. ???
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/notes_from_a_1990s_bergdorf_shopaholic_the_e_jean_carroll_story_about_trump_doesnt_add_up.html
Matt Sablan said...
"As pointed out over at Instapundit, this 'fantasy rape' in a dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman's is a scene out of Law and Order: Special Victims Unit Season 13, Episode 11."
And Matt Sablan asked: -- Wait, really?
Really. I saw the show posted on Twitter with a note to start the show about 45 minutes in.
It takes about five minutes to watch, because they're questioning suspects, but it ends with them mention that the judge had a sexual fantasy about committing a rape in the Bergdorf dressing room.
As Bugs says: "What a coyincey-dink!"
E. Jean Carroll tells @Lawrence that she will not seek rape charges against Donald Trump because it would be "disrespectful" to women at the boarder "who are being raped around the clock"
Please tell me again; why we should not be thinking that this lady is cray-cray?
Seeing this story reminds me of the one told about Lyndon Johnson during one of his early runs for office.
Seems that LBJ asked one of his aides asked him to spread the rumor that his opponent in the election fucked dogs.
The shocked aide said, "You can't call that guy a dogfucker!"
Lyndon replied, "I don't! I want him to deny he's a dogfucker!"
The expert's advice: get a guy stimulated into a frenzy of sexual tension and excitation, expressing his eternal love, and begging for the slightest sexual favor. According to Prof. Althouse, legally speaking, even after all that stimulation a woman (or man) can still exercise right of refusal at the last minute. I don't find that a realistic expectation. Back in the day once I was past adolescence (where kissing and making out is OK, intercourse is NOT) I came to the conclusion that there was absolutely no point in heavy petting unless you intended to have intercourse.
I watched a Youtube interview with Shonda Rhimes where she discussed her total stalking level infatuation with men characters she had created in Grey's Anatomy. Shonda Rhimes talks about the men of Grey's Anatomy This leads me to ask, if someone really believes their fantasy is it still a lie? Yes it is not true, but that doesn't mean the fantasy isn't "real" and deeply felt by her. IOW, the subconscious mind doesn't distinguish between fantasy and reality.
@Althouse , Do you enjoy your readership, they are appalling and its not as if they provide intelligent conversation so that can not be it. I am honestly curious if you like the comments on your blog or what do you make of it? you rarely reply in the comments and I can see why, however some of the content you post seems like you are at the same time courting your angry white male retiree community. Case in point the curious decision to post this video and not this one of E. Jean Carroll in her own words when its more relevant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL4B448958847DA6FB&time_continue=2&v=zi4DSmdUdng
$100 says Amanda believes Justice Kavanaugh was the leader of a rape gang in Maryland for years.
Amanda, a racist, ageist response is never a good look.
Pecan Pie Truther and racist poster Chuck, Kay, Amanda and the other leftists are really having a bad day as another of their endless stream of daily lues and smears is exposed as just that.
This will not stop as they have nothing else.
The good news is no one anywhere is fooled by the lies Chuck and Team Dem have been peddling against republicans for 60 years.
And we owe a big thank you to Donald Trump who has exposed them all.
iowan2 said...
you showed me their face, told me their name, and told me who they were- I would say I had never met them in my life.
I explained this when Chuck picked this mule to whip.
I have been in at least 9 wedding receiving lines. To say I "met" those people I hugged and wished well and happy futures, is nuts. I have danced with maybe 100 women. Women I never "met". Alas, another mule whipped to death at the hand of smear merchant Chuck.
Your reaction, if asked about such people, would be to say, "I don't remember him/her." I've been in many receiving lines, etc.
Not, "I never met her in my life."
And if you did claim that "I never met her in my life, and you were then shown the picture of you at the wedding, outside of the receiving line, chatting with her; damn right I'd expect you to say, "Sorry, I may have been mistaken. I did not recall meeting her but it appears I did meet her."
You contemptible fucking jackasses. You have adopted Trump's immorality. Shame on all of you.
George Conway's Twitter account today re-Tweeted a Lindsey Graham Tweet from the day after the Access Hollywood video broke in the news. Graham had written, "Name one sports team, university, publicly-held company, etc. that would accept a person like this as their standard bearer?"
Did it become 100% against her will after he didn't call?
“$100 says Amanda believes Justice Kavanaugh was the leader of a rape gang in Maryland for years.”
Years? Decades! There were thousands of accusers! There’s only 365 days in a year.
Blogger Dick said...
No. Trump's having said, "I never met her in my life," is literally and figuratively untrue.
Is there some evidence that he had met her before? In what context? Pictures? Her statement that she had met him?
Any links?
I keep hearing that there is evidence that he had met her, or she had met him, but if anyone has posted pics or other evidence I think I missed it.
And "figuratively"? Really Dick? What the heck does that even mean in this context?
John Henry
Twenty-five years ago Bergdorf Goodman didn’t have security to prevent men from going into womens’ dressing rooms? Must be a low-class joint, sort like Marshall’s, cheaper. Amirite?
“Shame on all of you.”
I would have thought that you would be ashamed that you support the misuse of the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc to overturn an election.
Yeah, Trump is louche, the alternative was Hillary Fucking Clinton. At least he’s not a war monger.
The fact that he’s not a war monger is probably why the CIA went after him, after he beat their girl Hillary.
She did say to CNN's chagrin on CNN that some consider rape to be sexy. That claim is supported by sales of millions and millions of copies of hundreds of versions published word porn mostly to women.
It’s more important that the POTUS never be accused of anything than that he has little interest in foreign wars. Yeah, Iran almost provoked him into one, but he made the right call. Hillary turned Libya into a “shit show” as Obama called it, where you can now buy enslaved women in open markets. She poured gasoline on the civil war in Syria by sending in weapons, the resulting waves of refugees from these two ham fisted military misadventures.
the waves of refugees destablilized Europe.
Suck on this, John Henry.
Here's a bit of comic relief, perhaps:
During the Kavanaugh hearings many of us learned a new word "Boof" which, in Kavanauh's teenage milieu meant "fart".
I don't recall ever hearing the word before in that context and, based on discussions here, in the press and in the hearings, not many others had either. Much merriment was had discussing the word.
We all apparently lead sheltered lives. Ms Loony Tunes was using the word as far back as 11/2/2007.
She made a YouTube video titled "I boofed my best friend's boyfriend"
She is doing he advice thing and someone has written in to say that they had fucked their besfriends boyfriend and asked her advice on what to do.
Well, the boyfriend is male and thus a scumbag. The bestfriend must be told what a scumbag he is and if the writer won't do it, she should send Ms LT the name and address and she will tell her herself!!
It is pretty amazing video. Kind of horrifying, actually, that there are women out there who seem to take her advice seriously.
But the funny part was that her use of "boof".
So not that this cleared up, that we now know that Kavanaugh was lying both literally and figuratively about the definition of the word, we can begin im
Are there any brochures about these Libyan Obama-Clinton slave women or would one need to go down there?
the waves of refugees destablilized Europe.
Immigration reform has a deeply diverse, anti-nativist sentiment with women and children collateral damage across the bridge and throughout.
Thank you for the picture, Dick.
So that proves they have been in the same room together, Perhaps even talked.
I'm going with Yancy. I speak to thousands of people every year. Shake hands with them even and say "Hey, how you doing."
I have no idea who 90% of these people are. If you asked me the next day if I knew them, I would say no because they have been totally forgotten, not having made any more lasting impression than a pebble in a pond.
So we have a picture of them together in the same room. So perhaps they have "met" in some sense of the word.
Doesn't make Donald Trump a liar. Just makes him forgetful. Or Ms LT completely unmemorable.
John Henry
During the Kavanaugh hearings many of us learned a new word "Boof" which, in Kavanauh's teenage milieu meant "fart".
Cooper taught us a new meaning of "tea bags". The very model of an Urban Dictionary.
Chuck: You contemptible fucking jackasses. You have adopted Trump's immorality. Shame on all of you.
Ha ha. Chuckie is lecturing us about shame. Priceless. LOL!
An article in the New Yorker? I don't even need to read it to know that it doesn't feature, get this, the episode of Law and Order that this mental patient cribbed her rape fantasy from. (Thanks to TheBradfordFile.) I like to think Michael Avenatti at least employed some measure of creativity with his ludicrous client's fraudulent testimony, as opposed to propping up a woman who takes rape fantasies from others and claims they happened to her... but he's under indictment, unlike the President, so who can tell?
It's interesting that the other lawyers on this blog think that such glaring blindness to visible fraud can be excepted, while they demand the President have eidetic memory about every single person he may have been photographed next to. But the American people can see chuckservative lawyers for the subhumans they are, and aren't confused by the obnoxious pedantry.
We can count the frauds- Swetnick, Mattress Girl, Tawana Bradley, Mangum the Ugly Stripper- but this fraud didn't last a week before exposing countless "intellectuals" as credulous mongoloids.
Blogger Bill Peschel said...
Lyndon replied, "I don't! I want him to deny he's a dogfucker!"
LIAR, LIAR PANTS ON FIRE. BILL, YOU NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO ALL OF US FOR POSTING THIS OUTRAGEOUS LIE!!!
LBJ didn't call the person a dogfucker, according to Caro, he called him a pigfucker.
So, you are a liar and a horrible person, Bill.
John Henry
(Just kidding. Just pretending to be Dick)
John henry said...
Thank you for the picture, Dick.
So that proves they have been in the same room together, Perhaps even talked.
I'm going with Yancy. I speak to thousands of people every year. Shake hands with them even and say "Hey, how you doing."
I have no idea who 90% of these people are. If you asked me the next day if I knew them, I would say no because they have been totally forgotten, not having made any more lasting impression than a pebble in a pond.
So we have a picture of them together in the same room. So perhaps they have "met" in some sense of the word.
Doesn't make Donald Trump a liar. Just makes him forgetful. Or Ms LT completely unmemorable.
John Henry
In light of the picture (that you demanded, and did not know existed) being featured in wide distribution all over the media, Trump not walking back his claim that he "never met this person in [his] life" makes him a laughable fabricator. Especially when he did it with Matt Whittaker.
This isn't the first time that blowhard Trump has claimed that he "never met" someone. Trump should get raked over the coals for this cavalier use of words and shameless disregard of facts and other people.
Amanda: @Althouse , Do you enjoy your readership, they are appalling and its not as if they provide intelligent conversation so that can not be it. I am honestly curious if you like the comments on your blog or what do you make of it? you rarely reply in the comments and I can see why, however some of the content you post seems like you are at the same time courting your angry white male retiree community.
Shorter Amanda: "We'll throw our baseballs in your yard"
She'll rally an online mob to deplatform you from Amazon next.
Can't say we didn't warn you about the 2nd purge.
@Althouse, the sad sixty something year old men speaking like junior high special ed have buried my comment but I would indeed be grateful for a response for you.
Thanks
Amanda
You hear that, guys? PAY ATTENTION TO AMANDA! She's special and we need to be extra nice to her.
"In light of the picture... Trump not walking back his claim that he "never met this person in [his] life" makes him a laughable fabricator."
Only to idiots like you. She's with a guy Trump is talking to as they enter or exit through a doorway. Your penchant for hyperbole and deliberately misrepresenting facts has destroyed your intellectual integrity, or you would have seen this obviously does not prove what you claim it proves.
But how is that Titleist Pro V1x investigation going, Chuckie? Do you finally have proof that Trump used the Pro V1 and not the Pro V1x as he claimed? Or do I have that backwards again?
LLR Chuck: "You contemptible fucking jackasses. You have adopted Trump's immorality. Shame on all of you."
LLR Chuck is a racist admitted smear merchant and liar who attacks children and threatens women and fully supports democrat/leftist policies that are turning the US into East Germany.
Discuss.
Amanda: @Althouse, the sad sixty something year old men speaking like junior high special ed have buried my comment but I would indeed be grateful for a response for you.
Amanda thinks Althouse is an idiot she can play. This will be amusing.
gilbar said...
E. Jean Carroll tells @Lawrence that she will not seek rape charges against Donald Trump because it would be "disrespectful" to women at the boarder "who are being raped around the clock"
Please tell me again; why we should not be thinking that this lady is cray-cray?
She is not crazy.
She is a lying piece of shit trying to sell books and trash a political opponent.
And the democrat party is full of stalinist shit heads that use obvious lies like this to persecute and jail their enemies.
Drago: don't forget wishing the murder of the President, except it might cause some political disadvantage. Which would spark the civil war that would see him set on fire, but hey! Some professions don't have long-term thinking as prerequisites to employment.
But really, he's also marketing rape then declaring that "B-b-b-but the other guy was angry/ mistaken in his response, so he's a sociopathic liar!" The fact Americans don't demand such lawyers be tarred and feathered is probably why your society will collapse.
Does Trump now admit that he met her, but claims that it was a casual, forgettable one-time meeting?
Chuck: "Trump claimed he used a #2 Pencil when it was reallya #3! Impeach now!"
LOL. Get fucked.
doctrev said...
You hear that, guys? PAY ATTENTION TO AMANDA! She's special and we need to be extra nice to her.
I found her comment appalling. It sounded like she was threatening our hostess. "Nice blog you've got here @Althouse. Be a real shame if something happened to it."
Hopefully she is just bloviating. Just another Trigglypuff https://youtu.be/dA3VhoKCIkM
But, as the saying goes: Why take a chance?
John Henry
Ah, John Henry, you misunderstand her, and myself! She's just telling Althouse what a nice blog she has. In turn, Althouse could find a number of ways to give Amanda the attention she so richly deserves.
Floor wax/dessert topping, if you reach the same result. So this story breaks right about the Iran shootdown and the g 20 coincidence.
And Matt Sablan asked: -- Wait, really?
Really. I saw the show posted on Twitter with a note to start the show about 45 minutes in.
Yah, Ace has it:
"There's a very thin time-bar at the bottom of the video. If you put your curser right on on it, you can slide it over to 42:15"
doctrev: "You hear that, guys? PAY ATTENTION TO AMANDA! She's special and we need to be extra nice to her."
Amanda and LLR Chuck are very very upset conservatives will no longer play by the old rules and actually push back on lefty/LLR-left lies.
For Chuck this is extraordinarily triggering even before he starts slamming one highball after another.
Now we know the ethical (quasi-moral) and ideological bent of the witch hunters and warlock judges. So Pro-Choice and monotonically divergent.
That said, these stalkers are approaching Antifa, Occupy et al levels of creep and menace. #HateLovesAbortion
Wait til you guys get a look at my advice video "When's the right time for a fella to ogle the gams of some dame".
Hopefully it's not too dated for you.
Fen: "Amanda thinks Althouse is an idiot she can play. This will be amusing."
Amanda is also demanding a special carve out whereby she can say anything she likes in advancing lefty narratives but wants Althouse to restrain anyone from responding.
Amanda is the female LLR Chuck.
Very passive aggressive, like the vercotti bros:
Nancy P. sez,
"Jobs, jobs, jobs
Let's vote for jobs!"
45>20
John Henry
Chuck, re your picture link. The other people in that picture- did Trump rape them also? If they claimed so, would you believe them as well? I doubt Trump would remember meeting a random person in 1987... I know I wouldn't, and you wouldn't either. What part of what you posted would survive as evidence in any court outside Soviet Russia or an Obama appointee?
Chuck said...
You contemptible fucking jackasses. You have adopted Trump's immorality. Shame on all of you.
Chuck is a proven liar and racist and he is attaching himself to this obvious lie to trash his political opponents.
And anyone who challenges this obvious lie is immoral now according to Chuck.
They are losing it folks. Chuck and his ilk are completely and totally depraved.
They gave up being civil long ago.
Amanda is also demanding a special carve out whereby she can say anything she likes in advancing lefty narratives but wants Althouse to restrain anyone from responding.
She's also whining that her Noble Comment is getting buried under a Patriarchy of juvenille old white men. Maybe she's flirting with us?
Sorry Amanda, no skanks
Amanda said...
@Althouse , Do you enjoy your readership, they are appalling and its not as if they provide intelligent conversation so that can not be it. I am honestly curious if you like the comments on your blog or what do you make of it? you rarely reply in the comments and I can see why, however some of the content you post seems like you are at the same time courting your angry white male retiree community. Case in point the curious decision to post this video and not this one of E. Jean Carroll in her own words when its more relevant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL4B448958847DA6FB&time_continue=2&v=zi4DSmdUdng
You disqualified yourself when you opined that the readership here is appalling. Life isn't a SJW fantasy camp. You have to support your claims, not just make them. Your lack of intelligence is "appalling".
She's a bit cray-cray. And not very shag-worthy either.
I'd stay away.
What's all this ruckus about Chuck?
A Chuckus?
Not even with Pence’s pecker...
There seems to be a lot of frustration in Leftyland this evening. Tomorrow's clown car debate must be making them really anxious.
She may’ve been close to shaggable - in an Olive Oyl sorta way - back when shag carpet was cool.
Amanda said...
@Althouse , Do you enjoy your readership, they are appalling and its not as if they provide intelligent conversation so that can not be it. I am honestly curious if you like the comments on your blog or what do you make of it? you rarely reply in the comments and I can see why, however some of the content you post seems like you are at the same time courting your angry white male retiree community. Case in point the curious decision to post this video and not this one of E. Jean Carroll in her own words when its more relevant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL4B448958847DA6FB&time_continue=2&v=zi4DSmdUdng
If you don't start thinking right Ann, you are going to be lumped in with the deplorables.
Amanda is just kindly letting you know you are providing a platform that people are using to spread bad ideas.
You better start cracking down or your masters are going to have to take action.
Amanda is just another stalinist piece of shit attaching her sense of morality to an obvious lie and anyone who questions the narrative will be punished.
She also said that she wishes that she had asked for his tax returns.
I think there is a little dementia at play here.
@John Henry , On the contrary althouse is a talented writer, I read her blog after all and I had read the post when where she explains what she gets out of writing the blog but I think it is a curious situation for a writer when their readership/audience/demographic is so childish and contemptible.
Amanda is the female LLR Chuck.
Who just happened to appear when Chuck needed backup. I think Amanda is Chuck, and is proof that Chuck can feel enough Shame to use a sockpuppet to promote his latest bs.
Notice how Amanda hectors Althouse over her commenters in much the same manner that Chuck has in the past. Note that Amanda's profile and join date is conveniently hidden too.
Amanda honey, would you please unblock your profile to prove you aren't a sock account created today by Chuck?
It is sad in a way and I wonder if @althouse feels disappointment, it must be frustrating to know the crowd you play to is beneath your talent.
If anyone is contemptible, it is you, Amanda. Most of us here have open-minds to others thoughts, perhaps you should attempt to open yours. It's called diversity of thought. Liberals are supposed to believe in it.
I think they lost it a long time ago, but the difference is that not even Big Tech can stop information on Swetnick and Carroll from getting out. Now Americans know that two women will not only lie about rape, but do it so obviously that one faces federal prosecution and the other faces MASSIVE ridicule for being a giant lying ho who didn't get off the carousel until she was over 50. Ironically, for all the wangs that explored Carroll, she's as barren as brick.
Anyways! Now that the weight of My Friends Say This Happened has been buried by That Chick Be Crazy, Yo, the media will have to go back to RAAAAACIST!! I'm actually looking forward to Carroll's upcoming New York magazine cover: rarely has a weekly looked like such a lumbering dinosaur as this pathetic sex-starved lunatic has her mask torn off in front of a global audience.
I really do not want to be wasting my time insulting strangers online but it is still truly a vile commentariat, I can not think of a comparable one, to where the quality between author and its comment section is so large a gap. @Althouse deserves better readers.
I think before Althouse responds to Amanda's pressing demand, Amanda should at least provide us with a recent photo - so that we could comment on her good looks or the absence thereof.
"Amanda" has been here for 15 minutes and already she sounds as if she has been posting here for years.....as a LLR...
I am certain its just coincidental.
Amanda: , On the contrary althouse is a talented writer, I read her blog after all and I had read the post when where she explains what she gets out of writing the blog but I think it is a curious situation for a writer when their readership/audience/demographic is so childish and contemptible.
You have a very juvenile style of writing for someone who claims the right to judge intelligence.
Is it because Chuck is trying too hard to mask his writing style? Although it does sound more like Inga than Chuck with that last: "their readership/audience/demographic is so childish and contemptible". Or maybe this is all just ChuckIngAnda , because I find it hard to believe 3 separate commenters here could be so simultaneously stupid. The odds don't line up.
But do go on. Tell us more about how you really aren't a sockpuppet and have been "reading her blog" for a very long time. Be sure to slip in some incidental anecdotes that imply you are a longtime lurker who decided to post for the first time in 7 years... go ahead.
@Fen , althouse can see for herself that I comment under one username/ID address, I suspect this might not to be true for a few here and that is too pitable a thought.
Amanda: "I really do not want to be wasting my time insulting strangers online but it is still truly a vile commentariat, I can not think of a comparable one, to where the quality between author and its comment section is so large a gap.
@Althouse deserves better readers."
Amanda, who has been here 15 minutes, goes Full Eddie Haskell immediately.
Hey, you know who else does that all the time?
LLR Chuck
Amanda: I really do not want to be wasting my time insulting strangers online but
But you'll go ahead and do exactly that. Very much like Inga who hates hates hates us and yet keeps coming back every day to tell us how much she hates coming back here to hate on us.
where the quality between author and its comment section is so large a gap. @Althouse deserves better readers.
Right. You want us silenced because you care very much about Althouse and her blog. You care so much that you are treating her like she's an idiot who can't see through your game.
I said Chuck before, I'd like to change my vote to Inga.
Amanda: "@Fen , althouse can see for herself that I comment under one username/ID address, I suspect this might not to be true for a few here and that is too pitable a thought."
Ouch!!
Lefties Inga, Ritmo and adSs hardest hit!
Fen: "I said Chuck before, I'd like to change my vote to Inga."
I am leaning the same way at this point.
Google owns Youtube.
Now I know why the Bernie "Millionaires and Billionaires" video was scrubbed.
You should have called us a deplorable commentariat! Way more on brand. The fact is you're all alone here, Amanda, and the management is probably enjoying the sight of you begging for attention, only to face the ill-mannered scorn of the benighted natives!
Amanda: althouse can see for herself that I comment under one username/ID address
Amanda has declined the opportunity to prove she isn't a sockpuppet.
But she thought is was necessary to address suspicions based on her hidden profile, to attempt a deflection.
2 strikes.
And now "someone" is rapidly deleting their comments?
GASP
Boisengoils, I don't think our newest addition is on the up and up!
Shorter Amanda:
"I just wanted to drop by to tell y'all what assholes y'all are."
Well, yes, there's that.
Since we're clearly such a horde of reprobates (and, really, can we deny it?), do you have any nominations as to what's a "good" forum?
'Cause, honestly, I'd like to know...
IngAmanda: do not want to be wasting my time insulting strangers online
What an odd coincidence. Just last week I was telling Inga she should spend more time with her grandkids instead of yelling at strangers online. I think it stung her. And here you are, pre-emptively immunizing yourself against any criticism that you are wasting your time yelling at strangers online.
What a coincidence!
http://patterico.com/2006/07/27/annotated-wuzzadem-the-facts-behind-the-greenwald-sock-puppetry/
Chuck said ...
You seem awfully certain that Ms. Carroll is lying. I don't know how you can be so certain. Feel free to share that part if you can.
She didn’t hit up Trump for money to keep her mouth shut.
Secondly, as Trump himself pointed out, he doesn’t need to do non-consensual sex. When you’re rich and famous they let you grab ‘em by the pussy. Which is what E. Jean Carroll did, as anyone can ascertain.
Over 20 years, right? Almost a climactic event. For the sake of social justice, there is only one possible solution: burn the witch, dunk the warlock, and abort the baby. Now we're FUCT.
Amanda/Inga sternly frowns on sockpuppetry right up to point where she is forced to confront the fact that sockpuppetry is far and away a lefty/LLR thing....at which point her concerns.....disappear.
alanc709 said...
If anyone is contemptible, it is you, Amanda. Most of us here have open-minds to others thoughts, perhaps you should attempt to open yours. It's called diversity of thought. Liberals are supposed to believe in it.
Don't believe it, Amanda. You are correct; the Althouse commentariat has self-selected itself into a vast majority of Trump cultists. For her part, Althouse would most likely say: (1) she rarely opines directly about the merits or demerits of any actual Trump activity; and (2) her blog-comments moderation leans toward free speech. Mostly.
She likes to blog about Trump-as-communicator. She is also sympatico with Scott Adams, who claims to not be aligned with Trump policy, but whose entire work seems aimed at defending Trump at every turn.
You're right of course, about the crude, thuggish, Trump-cult demeanor of much of Althouse's comments pages. I think she does not like it; she says she does not like it. But she is not sufficiently interested or motivated to do much about it. She's tried a couple of different moderation schemes but as of today you can see how they work. Page after page after of Trump cultists naming me for personal attacks. Her commenting instructions tell readers to "avoid personal back-and-forth with other commenters." But stick around and you will see comments pages where I have not even posted a comment but where many of Althouse's regulars attack me personally, and usually without any apparent reference to the subject of her blog post.
It's a shit show, and I have called Atlhouse out on it repeatedly. She doesn't like me, for several reasons as far as I can tell. First and foremost, my general and specific criticism of Trump runs against the grain of her collection of Trump fans. So that calls attention to me, and her commenters love to attack me personally (rather than defend the specifics of Trumpisms), and its a downward spiral. I think Althouse would rather I not defend myself. But I really got sideways with Althouse and Meade when I began to call attention to the gulf between her commenting rules (long since abandoned and replaced) and the near-complete lack of enforcement of them.
It is 100% the Era of Trump that is responsible for all of this as it relates to me. I've been an Althouse commenter for many years before the 2016 election and I was relatively little-noticed. My politics were pro-Walker, pro-Snyder, pro-Kasich, pro-Romney Republican. I supported the Republicans in the Wisconsin Supreme Court battles. I ridiculed the Wisconsin John Doe investigations law. I enjoyed Althouse's fisking of Madison's media and politics. (And I really became an Althouse fan as a fan of her law posts.) I have been a Federalist Society member and often quoted Justices Scalia and Thomas (and then Roberts) at length when we were discussing the triumvirate of homosexual rights cases (Lawrence, Windsor and Obergefell) which was another area of disagreement between Althouse and me. But nothing like what is seen on her blog's comments pages now.
My politics didn't change one bit. What changed was the social atmosphere surrounding Trump.
Chuck, Tome it down?
Chuck/Amanda: "You're right of course, about the crude, thuggish, Trump-cult demeanor of much of Althouse's comments pages. I think she does not like it; she says she does not like it. But she is not
sufficiently interested or motivated to do much about it."
LOLOLOL
Althouse and Meade have taken steps to ensure the quality of the blog by specifically asking one racist bad faith vulgar child attacking poster to leave.
But LLR Chuck never did.
I cant wait to see how Amanda/Chuck responds to Chuck/Amanda's comment.
My politics didn't change one bit. What changed was the social atmosphere surrounding Trump.
We know you didn't change Chuck.
You were always on the other side.
You are for open borders. You are for Crony trade. You are for open borders. You are for infanticide. You are a racist. You are for endless wars.
As this story makes clear you are against due process and the presumption of innocence.
You, like David French and Bill Kristol and all the other losers, were always on the other side.
All Trump did was remove the mask you were wearing.
Durbin Cuckholster Chuck: "My politics didn't change one bit."
Once a pro-dem lefty, ALWAYS a pro-dem lefty.
Chuck likes recounting all of his prepatory efforts in establishing his faux online persona so that he could use that to effectively "concern troll" republicans.
Unfortunately for Chuck, he lacks the necessary discipline to pull it off over the long term and on numerous occasions allowed the mask to completely and quite humorously slip.
I'm back to thinking Amanda is Dick. I was leaning towards someone else but Dick's last note swung me back
John Henry
It's surprising that there are some people who brag on being on the loser side that has precious few accomplishments, and a string of defeats. Scott Walker is completely done in Wisconsin, having magnanimously and scrupulously absolved the Derp State for its lawlessness. And sure, there are lots of people who thought he could be President. But could someone so milquetoast defeat a Chardonnay-soaked hag in his own state, much less take the country back from the cretins that used the national surveillance state against its political opponents?
Of course not.
Which is why the Romneys and Kasiches and Walkers get so much "love" after their complete impotence has been flaunted before the world. There there, baby, it happens to every guy. Except Donald Trump: I don't know how an elderly man inspires women to declare themselves the subjects of WACKADOO rape fantasies involving him, but he does it. I blame the Glorious Scalp Weasel.
Chuck said...
You seem awfully certain that Ms. Carroll is lying. I don't know how you can be so certain. Feel free to share that part if you can.
Because a 40something year old Trump did not rape a 52 year old wrinklepuss in a public changing room that is locked and you have to get a key from the staff to get into.
Because the accusation is 25 years old and women have been coming out with every sort of bullshit story for years.
Why now? Because she is selling a book.
Because this was the storyline from law and order.
Because her statement about being disrespectful to women migrating here and getting raped every day is obvious and stupid.
Because you and your leftist friends have pedaled numerous obvious lies about your political opponents raping women everywhere.
It is obvious to every thinking person what you and your friends are up to. Even you know what you are doing.
You are all just depraved shit heads and have no shame or decency.
Trump is doing an amazing job of ripping off the masks to show people and organization's true positions.
USA Chamber of Commerce is a great example. They hate Trump's guts, and Trump knows that.
I am amazed at the amount of hatred, and back stabbing, by so called conservatives at Trump. Trump is doing amazing things from a conservative prospective, and that's ignored, and instead you getting so called conservatives, such as David French, supporting the rape accusation of this lady, that rape story is sounding VERY Fishy... Or getting upset, because Trump is Trump and punches back, and speaks with little filters. He pretty much says what he thinks. It's so politician.
The actions of Paul Ryan on supporting the Trump Agenda, make my head spin. After McCain died, there was an opportunity to get some legislation passed in the lame duck session. Nothing. How the Aswan Brothers investigation was deep sixed.
doctrev: "It's surprising that there are some people who brag on being on the loser side that has precious few accomplishments,..."
Chuck adores republicans who gleefully lose to dems.
Remember, LLR Chuck literally defined republican victories as "disasters".
Literally.
It was fun reading Fen's 9:31, re: sockpuppetry, only to return and see the exact behavior by Amanda / Chuck!! You can't make this shit up...
Chuck: Don't believe it, Amanda
LOL he's talking to himself now!
And note the length of his response, the carefully edited paragraphs. This post was the entire point of "Amanda's" set up. We're really in for it now heh.
Stop bogarting the popcorn people! Has he gotten to the part where he lectures us about shame? That's always my fav. It's like the guy doesn't own a mirror.
Chuck, like all leftists, is utterly predictable.
Chuck and his ilk are hyper focused on Trump while oblivious to the alternatives.
By the way, Walker could have demonstrated more spine as his underlings got skewered.
(I was at the Green Bay rally and thought it a bit lame that Walker shows up in a Packer jacket and attended to a line of fans who wanted pics.)
Amanda: Whose yacht is that?
Elyot: The Duke of Westminster's I expect. It always is.
Amanda: I wish I were on it.
Elyot: I wish you were too.
Amanda: There's no need to be nasty.
Elyot: Yes, there is every need. I've never in my life felt a greater urge to be nasty.
John Henry
On a more serious note, Chuck describes many of the commentariat here, as Trump Cultists.
From what I can see, the commenters here are pretty well educated and my guess is if you looked at household income, it would be pretty high. Probably a bit on the older side. Lawyers are a bit over represented among her readers. More Male from the commentors. And probably pretty White.
So what would cause this demographic, to become for the most part, pretty Pro Trump?
Why are they willing to put up with Trump's:
- Over the top style.
- His uncouth, shattering of what is considered polite, saying when he thinks something is stupid, and saying it's stupid.
- His name calling on twitter, such as branding Jeb Bush as low energy, instead of using a proxy.
Why Indeed?
1. Trump is just a symptom of frustration with a system where the elites, elected politicians, education, Hollywood, technology, and media are for the most part out of touch with them.
2. Trump connects culturally, and these other organizations consider them deplorables and wrong think. He treats their interests with respect, and does not consider them deplorable.
3. They are tired of supporting candidates that don't fight, and allow the other side to take advantage of them. The Jacksonian culture HATES being taken advantage of.
4. They are highly cynical of the MSM, politicians, and have a low trust for anything they say. They feel lied to with slanted, biased news. They often look at other sources. They have been red pilled on their outlook on the world.
5. They are tired of being labeled as the aggressor, that it's their fault due to the race, sex, etc. they were born as.
6. Anonymous Commenting allows many to voice opinions publically, they would not dare to because of the real threat of doxing and other reprisals to their livelyhood.
some SWAG's. Perhaps Ann also got readers, such as I, from when she did guest blogging over at Instapundit. And we liked what we saw, and continued to stop on by. So blame Glenn!
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