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"The political-insider chatter is already suggesting that Warren might have a 'likability' problem, just like the one that supposedly was Clinton’s downfall."

"And if two or three other women join the race, which appears likely, they will no doubt hear that as well. As a headline on the humorous McSweeney’s website put it: 'I Don’t Hate Women Candidates — I Just Hated Hillary and Coincidentally I’m Starting to Hate Elizabeth Warren.' ... Were it not for the fact that they are both women... it’s hard to imagine a reason that Warren’s bid would already be freighted by associations with Clinton’s. The populist Massachusetts senator has made no secret of her disdain for Clinton’s brand of politics, which she says was too cozy with big banks and powerful interests... While Clinton had a 20-point plan ready for every question, she failed to weave it all together into anything that resembled a coherent rationale for her candidacy.... Warren, on the other hand, diagnoses virtually every issue... with the same blunt prescription. 'The answer is corruption, pure and simple. We have a government that works for those at the top,' she says...."

Writes Karen Tumulty in "Elizabeth Warren has something Hillary Clinton didn’t" (WaPo).

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Sebastian म्हणाले...

"'The answer is corruption, pure and simple. We have a government that works for those at the top,' she says"

Therefore, we need more government, to make the "corruption" go away.

Meade म्हणाले...

"I am not a crook[ed Hillary]."

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

We have a government that works for those at the top. Indeed we do. The top democratics in congress/senate, are the wealthiest of all. They did they do it? Government.

Ask the Clintons. They are only vastly wealthy because of government insider pay to play.

Ignorance is Bliss म्हणाले...

Apparently both Hillary and Warren are past their Last Likable Day.

John म्हणाले...

Therefore, we need more government, to make the "corruption" go away.

Presumably you agree we need more government in the form of tariffs (aka taxes), border security, employment verification, etc?

Wince म्हणाले...

Why isn't anyone who makes a living from being a "political insider" not immediately suspect?

Lance म्हणाले...

At this point in 2014, political insiders had Bush running away with the Republican nomination, and Clinton running away with the election.

Lucid-Ideas म्हणाले...

Remember the beer video?

In a transliteration of a popular online meme: Do not look for a love that does not look at you like Warren did not look at her beer.

I have never seen someone drink a beer that for drinking said beer looked like such a massive chore.

I give you one of the peoples' exhibits for her "likability" problem. Next thing you know she's going to be out in some field somewhere hunting quail with a permit purchased...purchased by her assistant...yesterday.

AlbertAnonymous म्हणाले...

Pho King Elizabeth Warren. She’s an empty (pant) suit. We’ve tried “empty suit” as President. 8 years that didn’t go well.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

Maybe creating an agency unaccountable to Congress or the Executive branch wasn't the best way to demonstrate her "anti-corruption" bonafides. Talk about a set up for corrupt government actors!

William म्हणाले...

Good looking people have an edge in beauty contests. Personable people have an edge in political contests. The two most unlikeable Presidents of my lifetime were LBJ and Nixon, and their presidencies were unsuccessful. I'm no fan of Gillibrand or Harris, but their personalities are far less off putting than those of Warren or Hillary......Trump is kind of obnoxious, but he's obnoxious in a likable way if you're in on the joke.

Tank म्हणाले...

Does this mean that Ted Cruz is a woman?

What's his likability factor?

Henry म्हणाले...

Even if Warren's populist credentials weren't completely compromised, she can't compete on the left with the Party's more radical progressives.

Her dispiriting brand of Al Gore populism is going nowhere.

Char Char Binks, Esq. म्हणाले...

Can Warren win the all-important Indigian vote?

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Warren and Sanders are hypocrites. They made their money the old fashioned way. The Tax payer.

CJinPA म्हणाले...

Were it not for the fact that they are both women... it’s hard to imagine a reason that Warren’s bid would already be freighted by associations with Clinton’s.

They are not simply "both women." They are both:
1. Women Democrats running for president within about two years of each other.
2. Feminists (An relatively select group, with only 23% of U.S. women identifying as such.
3. Not immediately likable.

This paper JUST ran another article complaining that "likability" is measured only in female candidates. A claim that was easily debunked on Twitter, with a dozen references to various likability issues with male candidates.

AlbertAnonymous म्हणाले...

“I’m gonna get me a beer”... was the verbal (and then bad visual) equivalent of Hillary trying to pour a Beer at that bar. Ugh. Clearly never done it before.

But I must be sexist, because if a guy had poured a beer (and done it right) I’d have felt more comfortable with him. Like, he’s done some beer drinking, knows his way around a keg. Wait, how can that be sexist? If a gal had poured a beer (and done it right) I’d feel more comfortable with her too.

Think Brooke Langton in the replacements, pouring a beer for Neo, I mean, Keanu.

traditionalguy म्हणाले...

Warren is a good old time Democrat. She just wants to demand Trump's very agenda and pretend it is not here yet. But she cannot win the nomination in a Party that sees all white people in power as secret Racists. The Cherokee Princess may still be her best move.

gilbar म्हणाले...

Warren might have a 'really ugly burnt out shrew' problem, just like the one that supposedly was Clinton’s downfall."

fixed it for you

Nonapod म्हणाले...

The answer is corruption, pure and simple. We have a government that works for those at the top

That's the sort of boilerplate populist message that's sufficiently vague enough for a generic political candidate. Saying stuff like that is ultimately meaningless since it doesn't get into the specifics about who is corrupt (who are the bad guys here) and what are the solutions.

I certainly wouldn't disagree with the general sentiment, though. But I just don't believe she would honestly go after "corrupt" people on her team (that team being Team Swamp, especially those with a (D) by their name). Nor do I imagine that any of her "solutions" would actually be effective. In fact I suspect they would be destructive since they would almost certainly involving widening and deepening The Swamp (more regulations, more unelected functionaries for "oversight" in new departments, more tax payer money for more government, and just more complexity = more opportunities for graft and corruption).

In other words: Any "solutions" she enacts wouldn't just be shifting deck chairs on the Titanic, but dumping hundreds of tons of concrete onto the deck.

Mary Beth म्हणाले...

The answer is corruption, pure and simple.

She wants to drain the swamp?

Henry म्हणाले...

Warren should turn down the heat and put on a sweater. That will inspire people.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

'” The answer is corruption, pure and simple. We have a government that works for those at the top,' she says...."

And she wants to be the person at the very top. Makes sense.

Sally327 म्हणाले...

It's an interesting issue, women and being likable. It used to be, would a woman be tough enough, could she be objective when needed (i.e., seen as too emotional). Now I guess we're willing to concede a woman can be a ruthless SOB so the problem is, do we like her? Which might be code for, do we trust her?

Because I don't find EW especially trustworthy. She seems like a conniver. Which possibly if she owned it, I'd like that. If she said, hey it was extremely difficult to get ahead, I had to leverage what I could, I had to play the game, I had to scheme. And I don't want everyone coming up behind me to have to do that, because it shouldn't have to be that way. Well then I might find her honest and more credible. And, hence, more likable. Because the system IS rigged. That's an easy message to sell, by the right messenger. Who better than someone who played the system to get to where she is?

stevew म्हणाले...

You know who else was not very likable: Al Gore. The common thread, for me, is the condescending, I know what is best for you and everyone theme of his, Hillary's, and Warren's approach. In Warren's case, she comes off as incompetent - I said enfeebled in another thread, that works too. As for likability, the leaders on that scale are Obama, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan; charming is another good description. Who are the likable women? Klobuchar strikes me as quite competent and thoughtful, but she's a bit antiseptic (see: boring) to be likable. Hmmmm, Carly Fiorina? Sarah Palin? Nikki Haley?

Charlie म्हणाले...

Or it could be that she's just......unlikable. Have you ever sat through one of her speeches? It's a long, tough slog.

Lucid-Ideas म्हणाले...

I alluded to her beer video above. This, along with the whole DNA fracase, are also related to this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeZQ5VROfBE

Likability is highly related to natural phycological detection mechanisms people have that are designed to subconsciously indicate truthfulness vs. something that just seems off...therefore untrustworthy. What I'm trying to get at is that when people like these, both men and women, work there entire lives on their future political idiom they don't develop "normal" responses to social cues, moreover they try to "replicate" social cues to show how normal they are that end up falling completely flat, and then end up hurting them. They are fundamentally attempts to deceive by trying extra hard to show how normal they are.

There was no need for the whole DNA thing, but Warren was paying attention to a different normalcy cue when she walked into that trap. The beer thing was identical. You don't like beer. We get it. Stop pretending you like it to appear normal. You're lying.

Hillary's "O" face was also a lie.

This is why they're not likeable. Comes through clear as day.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM म्हणाले...

oh FFS !! Forget her DNA test-- how about Carbon-14?

Mike Sylwester म्हणाले...

Sally327 at 9:30 AM
.... She seems like a conniver. Which possibly if she owned it, I'd like that. If she said, hey it was extremely difficult to get ahead, I had to leverage what I could, I had to play the game, I had to scheme. And I don't want everyone coming up behind me to have to do that, because it shouldn't have to be that way. ...

Excellent comment!

CJinPA म्हणाले...

“Many view parenthood as nothing more than another ‘lifestyle choice,’ not so different from joining a commune or developing a passion for windsurfing, but it isn't true for society at large. What happens to a nation that rewards the childless and penalizes the parents? If middle-class men and women stop making that parental lifestyle choice, who will care for them in their old age? Who will pay taxes, build infrastructure, and keep the economy afloat? And most important, who will populate the great middle class of America's future?”

-- Elizabeth Warren, “The Two-Income Trap: Why Middle Class Mothers and Fathers Are Going Broke.” (2003)

AlbertAnonymous म्हणाले...

Please don’t ever again use the phrase “Hillary’s O face”. Good god, that mental image can not be unseen...

Martin म्हणाले...

"Warren, on the other hand, diagnoses virtually every issue... with the same blunt prescription. 'The answer is corruption, pure and simple. We have a government that works for those at the top,' she says...." "

I suppose that is supposed to be a compliment, but I am reminded of Stephen Kotkin's definition of an ideologue as someone who knows the answer before the question is even asked.

As for "likability" being only directed at women, I seem to recall hearing that Richard Nixon and Phil Gramm were not likable, and how Dwight Eisenhower and Jimmy Carter were, so I guess they were all women?

chuck म्हणाले...

OK, how about "Warren has a likability problem like Mitt Romney." Happy?

Michael म्हणाले...

It seems to me Ted Cruz had/has a "likeability" problem. If he's become a woman I missed it.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

I view Warren as a sane choice when compared with KKKamala.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

I like Ted Cruz. I know he's a bit arrogant, but so what? Show me a democratic who isn't an arrogant SOB?

Lucid-Ideas म्हणाले...

So we can psychologically extrapolate even further on the likability is a trustworthiness problem...

The entire issue is these repeated attempts to appear normal. They're really hurting the democrats because what their NOW BROKEN cods is telling an increasingly large portion of the electorate is what everyone's heard several times already...

-They're isolated
-They're out of touch
-They're careerist
-They're elitist
-They don't care about normal people, the middle-class
-What they say they care about isn't true
-What you believe they may be hiding is 100% confirmed

All the political curation of an image in the world cannot save you if your own people have broken your code and can now see that you're trying to act normal in an attempt to bamboozle them. This, I suspect, has been a great causal factor in the destruction of numerous empires.

Meade म्हणाले...

"Can Warren win the all-important Indigian vote?"

Someone needs to poll the citizens of Indigenapolis.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"Even if Warren's populist credentials weren't completely compromised, she can't compete on the left with the Party's more radical progressives."

Who are you referring to?

Matt म्हणाले...

"it’s hard to imagine a reason that Warren’s bid would already be freighted by associations with Clinton’s."

Yeah, it's a real puzzle. Both have light skins (even for white people), short blondish hair, blue eyes, an affinity for pantsuits and kind of creaky voices. Both are democrats, senators from the northeast, and lawyers. Both are very vocal critics of Trump.

I bet if you did a "man on the street" interview with pictures of Warren and Clinton, at least 80% of the people couldn't tell them apart.

Carol म्हणाले...


Pho King Elizabeth Warren. She’s an empty (pant) suit.

She's NOT an empty suit!

She's a dumb Okie.

Nonapod म्हणाले...

Lucid-Ideas said...Likability is highly related to natural phycological detection mechanisms people have that are designed to subconsciously indicate truthfulness vs. something that just seems off...therefore untrustworthy.

General likeability is something that's innate. Some people are just born likeable. And it's very difficult for people who are charmless to learn how to be likeable. It's not as easy as reading Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People" (although that's a start), there's the whole body language thing. The problem is when people try and fail at replicating the mannerisms of an authentically likable person, it comes off as disturbing.

It's like the uncanny valley problem with computer graphics and androids. If something is close but not quite there, it has the exact opposite of the intended effect. This is a problem that's plagued certain politicians and other public figures, both men and women, forever.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

Well they're both kinda bossy.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

Trump proves an unlikable shit can be elected president.

gilbar म्हणाले...

Charlie said...
Or it could be that she's just......unlikable.

ooh! ooh! i know! i know!
Maybe, the dogs just don't like the dogfood?

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

Obama proves likability can be faked, and many will buy it.

I'm Full of Soup म्हणाले...

"The system is so rigged and corrupt" said Warren, "that even she was able to reach the top as a law prof at Harvard." [Nah she did not really admit that.]

gilbar म्हणाले...

Matt said...
I bet if you did a "man on the street" interview with pictures of Warren and Clinton, at least 80% of the people couldn't tell them apart.

not so! Hilary is twice the woman than Warren (quantitatively not qualitatively)

Amadeus 48 म्हणाले...

Warren seems confused. “The answer is corruption.” Is that the answer to anything? Maybe if the question is, how will you conduct a Warren Administration?

Study Venezuela to see how it ends up.

Mike Sylwester म्हणाले...

Count me too as a person who likes Ted Cruz.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

ot:
New governor of CA issued a statement that the US in not a sovereign nation and all illegal entrants can seek sanctuary in CA.

Please ignore the influx at the southern border.

Lucid-Ideas म्हणाले...

Robert cook said, "Obama proves likability can be faked, and many will buy it."

I'm only with you 50/50 on this one. He was successful at the outset, but even before the 1st term was out people caught on to the shell game.

The fraud was so colossal that Trump was elected on the backs of independents that had actually voted for Obama, in some cases twice.

Trump was the electorate's receipt for goods purchased being returned to customer service.

rehajm म्हणाले...

I am reminded of Stephen Kotkin's definition of an ideologue as someone who knows the answer before the question is even asked.

She tends to not answer questions posed to her, unless they are rehearsed interviews with a fawning media. In debates where she has the advantage of friendly moderators she still bumbles and stumbles. Her fallback is to ignore the question asked and blather on with some memorized boilerplate. She comes off as unintelligent. She may very well be...

Francisco D म्हणाले...

Trump proves an unlikable shit can be elected president.

Excellent point, Cookie.

Obama proves likability can be faked, and many will buy it.

You are two-for-two, today.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

Warren is likable enough.

rehajm म्हणाले...

All this talk about her style masks the point that she blows bison on substance.

(is 'blows bison' a Native American dog whistle? Do they even have dog whistles?)

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

the 9-year-old wanted to be absolutely sure she would get a prime spot to see the all-but-announced Democratic presidential candidate.

That 9-year-old already has a problem, and if she's lucky it won't be worse than a dietary shortage of "likability".

Henry म्हणाले...

Robert Cook said...
Who are you referring to?

AOC is one. But more interesting to me is Ayanna Presley, also from Massachusetts. She has charisma to spare. The lumpen Warren can't compete.

tcrosse म्हणाले...

Trump proves an unlikable shit can be elected president.

Especially if he runs against an even more unlikable shit.

hombre म्हणाले...

Anyone who believes Warren hasn’t enriched herself corruptly either hasn’t been paying attention or doesn’t understand the meaning of “corruption.” The Legal Insurrection blog has done a great job of highlighting her grifting over the years.

ga6 म्हणाले...

Warning her off to prepare the battle space for Kamela..

wendybar म्हणाले...

"She's likable enough!"

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

wendybar said...
"She's likable enough!"

Obama was wrong about everything.

Gahrie म्हणाले...

Warren and Hillary have the same problem that Kerry has...authenticity. There's no there there. Every action is contrived. They are constantly onstage, playing a part. Have you ever seen any of them being real? Does anyone think that Warren has ever before in her life sauntered into her kitchen and taken a pull off of a beer bottle?

rehajm म्हणाले...

Warning her off to prepare the battle space for Kamela

You betcha. A few candidates need to be culled or that first DNC debate will look like the finale of Les Misérables.

Gahrie म्हणाले...

Trump proves an unlikable shit can be elected president.

Plenty of people like Trump. You just don't like any of them.

Birches म्हणाले...

It's because they are both insincere. Same reason Ted Cruz was unlikable.

I don't like Kamala at all, but she doesn't have the same vibe.

Mountain Maven म्हणाले...

Dems are clearing the field for a POC woman candidate. Or Beto. Go figure. If i was biden I'd be nervous.

Seeing Red म्हणाले...

The political insider chatter?

How much money was made before they got a clue?

PM म्हणाले...

Warren, Harris, AOC, etc - they all remind me of the woman whose flight is delayed screaming "Rapist!!!" at the guy behind the JetBlue counter.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsWBa0dHpk6/?utm_source=ig_embed

Qwinn म्हणाले...

Trump is an unlikable shit? The Left loved Trump for exactly as long as they thought Trump was also a leftist.

Leland म्हणाले...

I liked Hillary more. Warren has already seemed to be an elite putting on a pretense of fighting the elite. It's not the average person that is corrupt, and that seems to be Warren's message. But other than the election cycle, I don't see her with the average person. Hillary had the same problem, but at least her husband found a way to connect to the average person. Roseanne could connect too, so it is not a gender thing, but Roseanne only makes fun of politicians.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

The problem is finding a woman that women will go for. That's the audience.

Various kinds of crazy have to be tried out.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Has anyone ever seen Elizabeth Warren with a genuine smile on her face? She always looks to me like a professor who is pissed off that she actually has to teach a class and grade exams.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"Trump is an unlikable shit? The Left loved Trump for exactly as long as they thought Trump was also a leftist."

Really? Who?

AllenS म्हणाले...

The only people who like Fake Indian Warren, are those who can hear a smoke signal whistle.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"'Trump proves an unlikable shit can be elected president.'

"Especially if he runs against an even more unlikable shit."


Well, yes...there is that. If the Dems had put forth a more likable candidate, Trump probably would have lost.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

All feathers, no buffalo.

gilbar म्हणाले...

Robert Cook said...
The Left loved Trump for exactly as long as they thought Trump was also a leftist."
Really? Who?

late night talkshows sure seemed to love him, SNL sure seemed to love him, All of NBC sure seemed to love him. HILARY MOTHERFUCKING CLINTON loved hum enough to go to his wedding!!!

Big Mike म्हणाले...

If i was biden I'd be nervous.

If I was Biden I’d be kicking myself for getting handsy with underage females on camera.

gilbar म्हणाले...

well, she loved HIM enough..... I don't think Anyone Anywhere EVER thought Hillary loved hum

WK म्हणाले...

I think out west they are called “prairie dog whistles”.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

Clinton didn't exactly have a downfall. She was never up.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

"You're likable enough, Hillary.” This was the first of Obama’s myriad, big, lies.

WisRich म्हणाले...

Birches said...
It's because they are both insincere. Same reason Ted Cruz was unlikable.

I don't like Kamala at all, but she doesn't have the same vibe.

1/8/19, 10:30 AM


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I think Kamala will have the issue of not sincerity, but anger.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"late night talkshows sure seemed to love him, SNL sure seemed to love him, All of NBC sure seemed to love him. HILARY MOTHERFUCKING CLINTON loved hum enough to go to his wedding!!!"

You haven't mentioned any leftists.

Seeing Red म्हणाले...

Your definition of leftists.

gilbar म्हणाले...

i didn't mean to imply "Left of Robert Cook", what ever that would mean

Bay Area Guy म्हणाले...

She's a stuffy, humorless Harvard Professor -- what's there to like about her?

Seeing Red म्हणाले...

Cookie is defining it. Much like almost every other thing, the definition is fluid.

Bruce Hayden म्हणाले...

"Trump proves an unlikable shit can be elected president"

I actually think that you are wrong here about Trump. I would contend that a significant minority in this country find him quite likeable. For being called a lier by so many, a lot of people see a lot more honesty in him than in many of those calling him a lier. And, by now, we are used to his bombastic exaggerations, and find them almost endearing. I was stuck, the day after he was formally nominated when he held a meeting in which he thanked various groups who had helped him get there. He thanked the police, the Secret Service, the carpenters, and a lot of people by name. Not something that politicians do, but Trump did it. And he still does it, almost two years into his Presidency.

The problem with Trump is not that he lies more than other politicians, because he really doesn't. Rather, it is a class thing. Those criticizing him are really offended because his behavior doesn't conform to their upper middle class standards of behavior. He does soeak though to the lower middle and working class just fine. He has the common touch, like few on the national stage, despite his own gilded and privileged existence.

One example here - in that one supposedly incriminating tape, he was saying that women let celebrities grab them by the crotch and do with them what they want. Everyone who mattered was aghast. But we all know that it is true. A lot of women do just that. I remember the trial of Kobie Bryant in Eagle, CO (I got through security there because I had a CO bar card). The rape trial revolved around her going to his room to have sex with him, but then he pulled down her pants, bent her over, and used a different orifice than the one she expected. My partner grew up in Vegas, and watched her friends compete for how many celebrities they could screw. It is the way of the world. It just offended upper middle class sentiments, but endeared him to the lower classes, who appreciated his blunt talk, leavened with a dash of his bombast. Which is probably why his Celebrity reality show did so well. Not anything that our class would ever watch, but most of them, even those who should know better, voted for Crooked Hillary instead.

Thinking back, I expect that I would have enjoyed hanging around Trump, and maybe having a beer with Bill Clinton. And GW Bush before he quit drinking. Crooked Hillary? Hell no. Fauxhauntis Warren? Ditto. Never liked women like either of them. Obama? NFW. Too prissy and pretentious for me. Probably not AlGore, JF Kerry, or LBJ. Or Nixon. Yes for Gerald Ford, JF Kennedy, and probably Eisenhower. There is a genuineness about Trump that so offends the upper middle class. It's nothing new - you see it in his cameos in movies decades ago. Almost like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddy Shack, but comfortable in his tuxedo.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

HILARY MOTHERFUCKING CLINTON loved hum enough to go to his wedding!!!

Or he paid her. For enough money she’d host a karaoke contest. For an extra hundred dollars she’d compete.

MikeR म्हणाले...

She claims to be for the middle class and against corruption. However, what she actually wants to do is to vastly increase the corrupt government apparatus - and have the middle class pay for it.

MikeR म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

"Elizabeth Warren has something Hillary didn't"

A dress.

Tim म्हणाले...

I thought it was a "lying" problem.

Bay Area Guy म्हणाले...

"Elizabeth Warren has something Hillary didn't"

A dress.
__________

Correction: A head-dress

Bruce Hayden म्हणाले...

"Warren has already seemed to be an elite putting on a pretense of fighting the elite. It's not the average person that is corrupt, and that seems to be Warren's message. But other than the election cycle, I don't see her with the average person. Hillary had the same problem, but at least her husband found a way to connect to the average person. Roseanne could connect too, so it is not a gender thing, but Roseanne only makes fun of politicians."

From the little I saw in that clip of her drinking beer, Warren's hubby didn't look like a bad sort. He seemed almost genuine, contrasted with lying facade. Probably wouldn't hate hanging around with him a little, just as long as he didn't bring along his little Mrs. And here is where the Clintons and Warrens differ, in mind. I would probably have tolerated Crooked Hillary to be around her husband in his Big Dog days. But probably not Lizzy Warren's husband.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

Hillary can't stand to hear the words head and dress used in the same sentence.

readering म्हणाले...

For me it's not a liability problem shared with likable enough Clinton, but an age problem shared with her and Bloomberg and Biden and sanders.

Bay Area Guy म्हणाले...

As for Elizabeth Warren, if I wanted a highly-educated, fussy, professional woman to take all my money, boss me around and nag me to death, I'd go back to my ex-wife.

tim maguire म्हणाले...

Robert Cook said...Obama proves likability can be faked, and many will buy it.

The Obama presidency always struck me as more of an Emperor's New Clothes situation. The man is thoroughly mediocre, his only discernible talent is getting influential people excited about him. Early on in the campaign, the media decided Obama was their guy (almost certainly because they fell in love with the idea of voting for a black man). Once the decision was made that he was the guy, they made up a mythology around him. Obama the man became almost irrelevant, so hidden was he behind the story of Obama.

The only intelligent thing Obama ever said, and quite possibly the most intelligent thing said about him during the 2008 campaign, was the line about how he's a blank slate on which people write their own hopes.

It was an extraordinary moment of clarity from a man who the rest of the time seemed utterly deluded about himself.

readering म्हणाले...

Yet 10 years later most admired man in America.

ThunderChick म्हणाले...

I cringe when I hear Elizabeth Warren talk. She sounds like an old schoolmarm waving her index finger at you for not believing what she is saying. I hope both Warren and AOC keep getting called out for every stupid thing they say and their utter hypocrisy in professing to be "for the people." Although Sarah Palin was not the best VP candidate, she didn't deserve all the ridicule and bashing she got by lefties and the media. Warren and AOC deserve the same treatment.

Sigivald म्हणाले...

Clinton is a politician.

Warren is a crusader with awful ideas.

No, thanks?

Howard म्हणाले...

Crickets on the Bolton and BiBi show...

Unknown म्हणाले...

I know you feel all funny inside when you can dream of another leftist inspired massacre of Jews, Howard, but try to keep your enthusiasm for genocide, the hammer and sickle, massive government corruption... the usual progressive agenda in other words--it's just not polite to wave that kind of thing around in public as a good thing, you know?

--Vance

Gahrie म्हणाले...

You haven't mentioned any leftists.

Remember, Comrade Marvin thinks anyone to the right of Pol Pot to be a dangerous reactionary.

Two-eyed Jack म्हणाले...

I think that there is a confusion here. It is not a question of whether a politician is likeable, but a question of whether you feel a politician might like you.

Freeman Hunt म्हणाले...

I'm hardly a potential Warren voter, but I think the idea that Warren has a likability problem on the order of Clinton is absurd.

Bill, Republic of Texas म्हणाले...

Well, yes...there is that. If the Dems had put forth a more likable candidate, Trump probably would have lost.

I don't agree. Bernie Sanders would have won and he is not likeable. Unless you like grumpy old men

Nonapod म्हणाले...

I think the idea that Warren has a likability problem on the order of Clinton is absurd.

Yeah, that's a crazy low bar. I think the smallpox virus may be more likable than Hillary Clinton.

tola'at sfarim म्हणाले...

What abt the whiteness factor

Achilles म्हणाले...

readering said...
Yet 10 years later most admired man in America.

With fawning orgasmic press coverage, 0% interest rates, and nearly 4 trillion printed dollars from the fed and another 10 trillion dollars borrowed what did Obama accomplish?

Less than 2% growth.

Massive increases to the cost of health care and enrichment of insurance companies.

At least 5 stupid wars. Gave billions to Iran to destabilize the ME.

He also managed to get a bunch of dumbshits and economic illiterates to cheer for him. Mostly people on food stamps which exploded in number under his watch.

Trump found some sort of magic wand and is bringing manufacturing back to the US.

Cheer for him all you want readering. It just makes you look stupid.

mccullough म्हणाले...

Klobuchar is probably likeable enough. She’s a little dull but doesn’t come across as a shrew like Warren and Harris. No one wants their fourth grade teacher as president.

mccullough म्हणाले...

Let’s face it. You have to have a sense of humor to be likeable as a politician. Trump is funny. That goes a long way.

tcrosse म्हणाले...

The term has gone out of fashion, but a Fabian Socialist is what Warren is. Fabians tend to be contemptuous of the Working Class.

Henry म्हणाले...

Likability and charisma are not synonyms.

Some politicians seemingly have both. Reagan, Clinton.

I wouldn't call Trump likable, but he knows how to get and keep people's attention.

Obama is a very cool personality, but he certainly has charisma.

My name goes here. म्हणाले...

"Trump is an unlikable shit? The Left loved Trump for exactly as long as they thought Trump was also a leftist."

Really? Who?


Joe and Mika for two.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

A lot of people like Trump and they are unfairly slimed as racists and deplorables simply for liking a moderate democrat named Trump.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The corruption is all on the left. The tax rapists, the folks in power who openly trash our sovereignty in favor of illegal border crossing.

The news media act like an arm to the Democrat Party. We live in scary times.

Achilles म्हणाले...

My name goes here. said...
"Trump is an unlikable shit? The Left loved Trump for exactly as long as they thought Trump was also a leftist."

Really? Who?

Joe and Mika for two.

Cook has convinced himself he is not on the same side as the globalists.

Even though he supports everything they want to do and opposes the people fighting them.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Joe and Mika are frauds.

They pimped Trump so hard during the GOP primary contest. They wanted Trump to face Hillary so they could turn on him and trash him. Mission accomplished.

Frauds. Morning Joke.

Bay Area Guy म्हणाले...

The Left affirmatively wants:

1. Lax border enforcement
2. No ID for voting

To sane folks out there of either party, What is the natural consequence of these two-related policies?

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

CNN-(D) Fanatic leftwing fascist Don Lemon exposes himself as a leftwing fascist.

Orwellian: CNN's Don Lemon Suggests Trump's Speech Should Be Censored Before Americans Hear It

Lucid-Ideas म्हणाले...

Nonapod said, "I think the smallpox virus may be more likable than Hillary Clinton."

Hillary can solve this problem by running with smallpox in 2020. Instant boost.

Warren can't run with smallpox though. Brings up too many negative historical analogies.

Earnest Prole म्हणाले...

When it comes to unlikability, Hillary Clinton is an entirely different species than Elizabeth Warren.

अनामित म्हणाले...


"'The answer is corruption, pure and simple. We have a government that works for those at the top,' she says"


The racial spoils system that she milked is the biggest corruption of government.

gilbar म्हणाले...

Achilles said...
Cook has convinced himself he is not on the same side as the globalists.
Even though he supports everything they want to do and opposes the people fighting them.


The neat thing is that Cook and some LLR's "claim" to be "diametrically" opposed to each other; But, they both agree in each and every way. I sometimes wonder if Robert has thought about his bedfellows

Mr. Groovington म्हणाले...

RBG missing her second day today. Unbelievable situation if she retires here.

gilbar म्हणाले...

here's How you generate 'likability'!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/de-blasio-announces-guaranteed-health-care-for-all-new-yorkers-including-illegal-immigrants

Not Health insurance for all; Health CARE for all!!! Not single payer; NO PAYER!!!!!

Skeptical Voter म्हणाले...

There are lots of reasons not to like Elizabeth Warren--and none of them have anything to do with Hillary Clinton. She is her own special kind of critter. Where can I get me one of them there licenses to drink a beer? With a hat tip to John Kerry. Who was also his own special kind of unlikable.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Bay Area Guy said...
The Left affirmatively wants:

1. Lax border enforcement
2. No ID for voting

To sane folks out there of either party, What is the natural consequence of these two-related policies?


California:

144% of voting age adults vote in Las Angeles County.

Ballot harvesting in California flips several seats to democrat over a week after the election..

Jim at म्हणाले...

A screeching hypocrite has a likability problem?
Wonders never cease.

Achilles म्हणाले...

sodal ye said...
RBG missing her second day today. Unbelievable situation if she retires here.

She will never retire.

They are going to try to hide her death as well.

Even now they are calculating how long she can not show up to do her job before they have to let Trump nominate her successor.

Bill Peschel म्हणाले...

I don't listen to politicians. I don't have access to cable TV, so I look at what they do.

Achilles above summarized Obama's accomplishments. To that, I would add that he kept the economy depressed for eight years through added useless regulations, instituted Obamacare that added more weights on the economy (it's mandate for physicians to fill out innumerable forms for each visit has led to a decline in quality care), and instituted the Title 9 kangaroo courts that removed due process from essentially trials by universities.

Meanwhile, under Trump, we have an economic rebound (inspired mostly by the fact that Clinton didn't win), a reduction in the rise of regulations, the derailment of most of Obama's mandates, a shift in the court toward judges who respect and work within the Constitution, and less jinning up of racial strife, such as seen in Ferguson, Mo.

By any standard, if it wasn't Trump doing this, the national media would be hailing his accomplishments. But because as soon as he was nominated they dropped their masks and went all-in to attack him.

Kevin म्हणाले...

So the point of the article is that some part of the country is just waking up to the idea the Elizabeth Warren is unlikable?

Nonapod म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Nonapod म्हणाले...

Not Health insurance for all; Health CARE for all!!! Not single payer; NO PAYER!!!!!

So does De-Blabio imagine that Doctors and nurses will be indentured servents who'll be forced to work for no pay and that medical supplies and equipment will be somehow gifted to the city of New York gratis?

Or does he believe in magic? Does he believe that if you wish for something long and hard enough, wish upon a star! that it'll become truesies.

Does he have a learning disability?

Or is he really like, two 4 year olds, one standing on the other's shoulders, covered by a trench coat?

I'm Full of Soup म्हणाले...

I wonder if RBG live long enough to see her life's story movie released?

I'm Full of Soup म्हणाले...

Nonapod: If the innumerate liberal Deblasio can cover healthcare costs for only $166 per year per person for 600,000 people, he should be put in charge of HHS.

rehajm म्हणाले...

I wonder if RBG live long enough to see her life's story movie released?

Maybe the original but not the 4th remake with Lady Gaga.

FIDO म्हणाले...

I had two grandmothers, the one we kind of liked and 'the other one'.

Warren and Hillary are 'the other one'. I am sure they aren't...no...I am pretty sure that Hillary is a sociopath.

WARREN might not be a bad person. But I would be kicking the chair the entire way to my yearly visit to het.

gspencer म्हणाले...

Seeing Kirsten Gillibrand bent over would be enjoyable. Elizabeth Warren not so much.

FIDO म्हणाले...

The first woman president needs to be a MILF.

But the Althouse wing of Feminism won't vote for a MILF. They won't give her money. They won't stump or waddle for her.

And they will tear her down in catty ways.

Men will not vote for the odious shrews that Feminists favor.

Ergo...

Bay Area Guy म्हणाले...

"I wonder if RBG live long enough to see her life's story movie released?"

Yeah, I'm thinking Julia Louis-Dreyfuss for young RBG, and Ruth Gordon for older RGB.

Of course, Ruth Gordon was great as Clint Eastwood's Mom, in "Every Which Way But Loose," but she has long passed.

Maybe, Betty White with a bun and a gavel.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

I don't like either one of them either, but that wasn't until they made it clear they didn't like me or my values. You see, I'm rather deplorable.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

Maybe, Norman Bates' mom with a bun and a gavel.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

To Warren, and Cortez, and Bernie, I get that you hate big banks, and big business, and the rich who invest and work in them, but after you destroy them through taxes and regulation, then what? Where will the next taxes and jobs and capital all come from. Will the poor and lazy that you gave a couple dollars each from the booty pay the bills, create the products and the jobs, and invest in the risk that gets things done? Good luck with that, becuase when that happens you will end up in the trash bin with the rest of the country, but we won't be blaming the evil rich anymore.

FIDO म्हणाले...

It is really hard to win election when you are culturally and morally out of touch with 50% of the population and openly hate 30%.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

Blogger Sebastian said..."
"The answer is corruption, pure and simple. We have a government that works for those at the top,' she says"
Therefore, we need more government, to make the "corruption" go away."


Sebastian nails it in the first comment.

Gahrie म्हणाले...

Yeah, I'm thinking Julia Louis-Dreyfuss for young RBG, and Ruth Gordon for older RGB.


Wrong Ruth for the older RBG...Ruth Buzzi.

JackOfClubs म्हणाले...

No one thought Margaret Thatcher had a problem with likability -- because she had actual ability. Same with Nikki Haley. You don't think about liking people that you already admire.

traditionalguy म्हणाले...

It's going to come down to an intersectionality decision. Lizzie once had both femaleness and native American Indian-ness added to a serious Kill The Wall Street Pigs message.

Today she is a wreck whose only claim is that she is an over educated white, Okie from Muscogee and she favors all of those 9 to 5 Working girls who need pay raises. But today's Dems only see that as a compound of old timer weirdness.

Scott M म्हणाले...

Warren, on the other hand, diagnoses virtually every issue... with the same blunt prescription

Does that diagnosing power include using faulty methods and bad data to show how much she doesn't know about consumer credit?

BJM म्हणाले...

Gahrie said Does anyone think that Warren has ever before in her life sauntered into her kitchen and taken a pull off of a beer bottle?

Warren didn't even know how to open a beer bottle, so yeah, no.

Rabel म्हणाले...

"I am not running for President."

- Elizabeth Warren, 2018

It depends on what the meaning of am is.

rcocean म्हणाले...

Kamala Harris is more likable.

Bay Area Guy म्हणाले...

I am hoping Warren and/or Bernie win the Dem nomination.

There's a lotta rich Liberals out there (Manhattan, San Francisco, Beverly Hills), who once they realize that their wealth it at risk by these two knuckleheads, will likely jump ship.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

"Yet 10 years later most admired man in America."

Gee, I wonder how that happened. Think back over those eight years, and even till today. Did anyone in comedy, entertainment, or the press ever criticize the man or make fun of him like they have every other President. By contrast, Republicans are never treated as anything other than stupid, immoral and evil. In fact, shows like SNL that historically always roast Presidents, consistently portrayed Obama as cool, smart, and clearly superior to any of his opponents, including the American people who disagreed with him.

Do you think all that over all these years might have an impact on people's perceptions of the man?

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

"Yeah, I'm thinking Julia Louis-Dreyfuss for young RBG, and Ruth Gordon for older RGB."

Mom's Mabley.

walter म्हणाले...

Christian Bale.

Lucid-Ideas म्हणाले...

rcocean said, "Kamala Harris is more likable."

True but she's got a bigger problem, her bad case of the California Smuggies.

She should run with smallpox too in 2020, at least her mom is doctor.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

Man, my punctuation sucks, but I'm still somewhat likable.

Nonapod म्हणाले...

Kamala Harris is more likable.

Possibly true. Honestly Kamala isn't yet known well enough for most people to have formed a strong opinion about her one way or another. Her name ID has been slowly climbing of late and once the first primary debates get under way most people will start to get a little bit more familiar with her actual personality (or at least her public personality anyway). But she does check more boxes than Warren, being an actual minority rather than just a pretend one. Plus she's youngish.

TrespassersW म्हणाले...

As far as I am concerned, Warren's--and Hillary's, for that matter--major "likeability" factor boils down to this: I didn't like their policy stances.

There's no denying that I also find both of them to be creepily fake in their attempts to "relate" to proles like me.

So call it a 70/30 split. Pretty much how I reacted to Kerry and Obama, for that matter. Their politics turned me off more than their personalities.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

(Obama) "Gave billions to Iran to destabilize the ME."

Hahaha! We are significant contributors to the destabilization of the ME. That's our standard M.O., so we can swoop in and extract our profits and/or assert our dominance.

(BTW, the money sent to Iran was theirs to begin with, as you know.)

rehajm म्हणाले...

Ironic that Warren is being criticized for what lost Hillary the war when Warren has been working so hard not to be Martha Coakley.

She will no doubt shake hands with fans outside Fenway. In the cold.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"...instituted Obamacare that added more weights on the economy (it's mandate for physicians to fill out innumerable forms for each visit has led to a decline in quality care)...."

My hematologist retired from active practice 20 years ago because of his frustration with health insurance paperwork and interference in his practice of medicine, (due to their reluctance to approve treatments, payments, etc.). That was ten years before Obama became president. What you blame on Obamacare--a gift to the insurance companies, to be sure--was already a signature of their business practices many years prior to Obamacare.

I'm Full of Soup म्हणाले...

Warren is not likeable while Hillary is unlikeable. I think there is a difference. There is a good chance Warren can make it to unlikeable.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

What are you guys talking about wondering if RBG will live to see the movie of her life? It's already out in the theaters!

Joe म्हणाले...

Forget "likeability"; Warren's paper on bankruptcy was academic fraud.

I'm Full of Soup म्हणाले...

Cookie- I did not realize the RBG flick was in the theatres already. Thanks

Trumpit म्हणाले...

Testosterone is a dangerous chemical, often causing unpredictable violent behavior. I think the Constitution has to be changed to exclude males from being president. It should apply retroactively to the current macho son of a bitch occupant of the White House.

walter म्हणाले...

After her "I'm a gonna get me a beer" moment, she should continue her "Just like you" messaging with various videos of her working alongside garbage collectors, casino workers etc a la "Dirty Jobs".

Drago म्हणाले...

Trumpit Trumpit Trumpit...

Like LLR Chuck, you often think too "small".6

Just get the LLR's to ally with the left (Again!!)and simply declare CO2 not just a greenhouse gas, but a carcinogen as well!!

Then have the already well-established and well-greased far left/LLR legislation process kickout a requirement to cull the population by 50 million in the US or so, making sure the list only includes Trump voters.

Voila!

Yours, Nancy's and LLR Chuck's problems = solved!!

You're welcome.

Jaq म्हणाले...

How many things do you have to overlook to even get to likeability as one of Hillary's problems?

Bay Area Guy म्हणाले...

Yeah, we've seen the RBG movie trailer, we just have major disagreements with the casting decisions.

Matt म्हणाले...

If she was a person of honor, after admitting she wasn't a colored perso...un, I mean 'person of color' she would have removed herself from the national stage for unfairly using set-asides over the course of decades to advance herself.

But she is a Dem, so we know honor will never make an appearance.

Lucid-Ideas म्हणाले...

Trumpit said, "Testosterone is a dangerous chemical...that should be constitutionally banned..."

At least it's not being flushed into the environment by pill-popping females in massive quantities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenoestrogen

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412016304494

https://www.healthysimplelife.com/8-ways-to-minimize-toxic-estrogen-exposure/

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00128-016-1873-9

Somebody call the EPA. I have found the reason for all this unpredictable and moody behavior.

n.n म्हणाले...

re: guaranteed health care

the plan will serve the 600,000 New Yorkers who don’t have insurance
...
It will also guarantee health care access to those ineligible for insurance, including illegal immigrants
...
all services will be “affordable on a sliding scale.”


$100 million. Sounds reasonable. And the costs are passed on.

Earnest Prole म्हणाले...

As far as I am concerned, Warren's--and Hillary's, for that matter--major "likeability" factor boils down to this: I didn't like their policy stances.

Naw. Warren's (and Sanders') policies would be utterly disastrous for America, but I like them both just fine. Hillary's policies in comparison are far less objectionable, but she is without a doubt the most unlikable national figure in American politics in a hundred years. If I had to pinpoint the reason, it's her righteous sanctimony and hypocrisy on corruption (here are your winnings, ma'am) and sexual politics (nuts and sluts), combined with the Nurse Ratched demeanor.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

"How many things do you have to overlook to even get to likeability as one of Hillary's problems?"

Exactly.

Where is the leftwing outrage about HER-> corruption, private server, Clinton foundation fake-charity and on and on, personal pay-to-play money grubbing, The Clintons are wealthy how? No matter! The left are corruption excusers to the hilt if "likeability" is their excuse for her loss.

n.n म्हणाले...

Color, sex, and, yes, gender in politics.

FIDO म्हणाले...

I have a trade: I will give $5,000,000,000 for illegal immigrant medical care if you give me a Wall.

You need to own your spending choices and I will have to own mine.

Which do you think will be less politically toxic?

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Democrats want tax rape for all so they can fund their illegal voter base.

n.n म्हणाले...

Trump is likable because he is not a diversitist, judge people by their "color". He is not politically congruent ("=") or Pro-Choice/exclusive. He is addressing a massive and progressive violation of civil rights, which will hopefully be accompanied by engaging other nations to promote emigration reform. He hasn't saved and created as many wars and conflicts as Obama. He has not separated children from their parents to be processed in the Mediterranean. He is trying to avoid passing the responsibility, and assure that all Americans have access to affordable medical care, with or without insurance. He is focusing on jobs over welfare, which will, unfortunately, lose him votes in the high-density population centers. He is addressing labor and environmental arbitrage that has harmed American industry and workers. He doesn't normalize Planned Parenthood/selective/cannibalized-child... well, baby steps. He hasn't Gaddafied anyone, has he? He is working to end the war in North Korea. Whether it is democratic leverage, diversity, GDP, or Planned Parenthood, he has an uphill climb against people left, right, and the left-right nexus.

Paul Zrimsek म्हणाले...

How did Sarah Palin manage to fool all those woman-haters into thinking she wasn't one?

Rick म्हणाले...

On the other hand, she sees Warren offering a fresher appeal: “Her message is consistent, and she’s looking out for the middle class.”

Warren is looking out for the Government Class. The rest of us are Boxers.

Rick म्हणाले...

Were it not for the fact that they are both women... it’s hard to imagine a reason that Warren’s bid would already be freighted by associations with Clinton’s.

They seem pretty similar to me. They both believe the government can take anything you have because people who will vote for them want it.

Tumulty tries to make Clinton's greed a distinction but fails. Warren is worth over $3 million dollars which she laughably portrays as "public service". This isn't the Clinton's hundreds of millions but the Clintons have been at the highest trough in the land for three decades, warren's got some catching up to do.

Meanwhile Warren's trading on her Harvard professorship to create propaganda studies and demonizing everyone who opposes her policies as corrupt is directly out of the Clinton playbook.

Bill Peschel म्हणाले...

Robert Cook wrote "What you blame on Obamacare--a gift to the insurance companies, to be sure--was already a signature of their business practices many years prior to Obamacare."

Vox would disagree:

President Obama doesn’t spend a lot of time talking about electronic medical records, but when he says his administration “put a big slug of money” into incentivizing health providers to adopt electronic records, he’s not kidding. There was $27 billion in funds for this exact purpose in the 2009 stimulus bill. And the results have been disappointing.

While most hospitals now have some type of electronic medical system in place, most do not have the ability to transfer information to another hospital outside their own system. Only 38 percent of hospitals say they can use or integrate data from another hospital into their own electronic records system.

Be म्हणाले...

She isn't a particularly likeable person policy-wise in MA, either. If the GOP would even make an attempt to try out seating her, it would not be 56-43, but closer to 50-50.

ChuckUnderscore म्हणाले...

Massachusetts resident here. Fauxahontus is a political and emotional drain on the citizenry of this state. It is amazing to me that she got elected in the first place, and doubly amazing that she was re-elected, particularly considering that most people must have known she was going to essentially abandon her day job [whining in the Senate] to trot around the country pretending to be a legitimate candidate. And when she finally get thrown under the bus by the Dems she will grovel her way back home and recommence her unseemly whining and nagging.

Nothing likeable about her.

ccscientist म्हणाले...

It is quite presumptuous to assume that people MUST like a female pol. They can be repulsive just like men.

Steven म्हणाले...

Basic reality check:

The conformity factory that outputs the American elite is not a hotbed of populist sentiment.

If a political candidate is not definitively opposed by a substantial majority of the faculty of Harvard, they are not -- in any way, shape or form -- a populist.

Any assertion otherwise marks the speaker as completely out of touch with American reality.

Elizabeth Warren is as populist as a hybrid Lexus.

Michael S. Kochin म्हणाले...

Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren both have a long record of self-serving lies. The difference is that Senator Warren's big lie makes her look silly.

Bob Loblaw म्हणाले...

Warren's problem is how wide open she left herself to ridicule with all that Cherokee stuff, first by making the dubious claim and then doubling down with the DNA test. Ridicule is the most potent attack in politics. There's no way she makes it to the oval office.

Also, she's a multimillionaire. People distrust rich socialists.