३१ ऑक्टोबर, २०१८

"Pakistan’s highest court has spared the life of a Christian woman sentenced to death for blasphemy in a long-awaited ruling Wednesday..."

WaPo reports, in "A Pakistani Christian woman who faced the death penalty for blasphemy is acquitted by high court after 8 years on death row."
Asia Bibi, a mother and farmer, had spent eight years seeking mercy from appeals courts while imprisoned on death row. The supreme court acquitted Bibi of making “derogatory remarks” about the Muslim prophet Muhammad, ruling that the evidence against her appeared fabricated and insufficient.
That is, the court did not say there's a free speech right to blaspheme or that Christians are not bound by the limits of Islam. It's just the failure of evidence that she made the remarks.
The case against Bibi stems from a fight over a cup of water on a hot day. One afternoon in June 2009, Bibi was working in the field picking berries when she asked a group of women if they would like some water. She offered to fetch it and bring it to them. But the women, who were Muslim, told Bibi that “because she is a Christian they would never take water from her hand,” according to the ruling.

That’s when the women alleged that Bibi made “derogatory remarks” about Muhammad, allegations the court found did not hold up beyond a reasonable doubt....
Widespread protests broke out, "with hundreds from religious parties taking to roads and highways in Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Lahore, Karachi and elsewhere":
Haris Ahmed, a young TLP [Tehreek-i-Labaik Pakistan, a religious political party] protester, told The Post: “We don’t accept this decision, which is given only to please the U.S. and other Western powers. Our protest will continue until and unless the supreme court reverses its decision and the blasphemer is sentenced to death. When it comes to the honor of the holy prophet, we are ready to sacrifice everything, and if the government believes it can stop us with the use of force, they are living in fools’ paradise.”
The leader of TLP said:
“Stop working, leave everything else — this is not a time to stay at your homes and offices. It’s time to give sacrifice and protect your religion. All of you hearing my voice shut your doors and come join this protest. We don’t accept this verdict. A blasphemer can’t be forgiven and we are ready for every sacrifice, for us the honor of our prophet is everything. We are ready to face police. We are not afraid of anything. Its time to rise for your religion.”

६३ टिप्पण्या:

rhhardin म्हणाले...

What's the average IQ in Pakistan.

Looking it up, 84.

https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country

Michael K म्हणाले...

She'll be lynched if she gets out of prison,

Bill, Republic of Texas म्हणाले...

Believe All Women!

Stone the heretic!

gilbar म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Dave Begley म्हणाले...

All religions are equal. All cultures are equal. All legal systems are equal. America is not exceptional. By all means, import more Paks into the United States. Diversity. Peace. Love. Unity.

gilbar म्हणाले...

REMEMBER!
Islam is a religion of PEACE!
So, if you criticize it, or its founder; in Any way (or, are thought to have)
THEY WILL TRY TO KILL YOU!!

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

"A European court has upheld the blasphemy conviction of an Austrian woman who called the Prophet Muhammad a paedophile."
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"Several European countries, including Austria where the conviction took place, continue to have strong laws against blasphemy. In Austria, Germany and Poland the offence carries a potential prison sentence as well as a fine."

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"The European Court of Human Rights — which has jurisdiction over 47 European countries, and whose rulings are legally binding on all 28 member states of the European Union — has effectively legitimized an Islamic blasphemy code in the interests of "preserving religious peace" in Europe."

Gahrie म्हणाले...

yeah...let's bring more of these people to the United states, because things aren't extreme enough yet.

So much for co-exhist huh?

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

What's the average IQ in Pakistan.

What's the average IQ of the people on European Court of Human Rights?

Rob म्हणाले...

But I have it on the highest authority that Islam teaches peace! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ulZW6cJ56d8

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

"You have the right to remain silent." So to speak.

Amadeus 48 म्हणाले...

Emotion makes the world go 'round.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

What's the average IQ of the people on European Court of Human Rights?

They're on the other end of the scam.

Kevin म्हणाले...

“We are ready to face police. We are not afraid of anything. Its time to rise for your religion.”

Antifa.

Amadeus 48 म्हणाले...

The Queen of Hearts had it right: the proper answer is, "Off with their heads!" You get a lot more consideration if that is your base policy.

I had a friend doing business in Saudi Arabia who was offered the following choices for Friday night entertainment: (1) go to the camel races or (2) go to Chop-Chop Square to watch the beheadings. He picked the camel races.

Darrell म्हणाले...

Asia Bibi needs to take the next bus out of that shithole.

Bill, Republic of Texas म्हणाले...

She offered to fetch it and bring it to them. But the women, who were Muslim, told Bibi that “because she is a Christian they would never take water from her hand,”

Such lovely people. I can see why Obama prioritized Arab Muslims over Arab Christians for immigration purposes.

The Taliban leaders Obama released to get Bergdahl back have returned to their terrorists roots.

But Trump said something mean on tweeter!!!1!!!

President-Mom-Jeans म्हणाले...

Fucking imbred pedophile worshipping savages. At some point we are going to have to take out all of their nuclear capabilities, they should never have been allowed to get the bomb.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent म्हणाले...

Well, if you’re just throwing red meat, Althouse, I’ll bite. Muzzies are barbarians. Why we would want to import a single one into a liberal society is beyond me.

narciso म्हणाले...

You get a notion of the pitfalls of professing christianity in those climes.

brylun म्हणाले...

Send Inga to Pakistan so she can experience Islam first-hand.

Mike Sylwester म्हणाले...

A blasphemer can’t be forgiven

Here in the USA a person accused of making a racist remark can't be forgiven.

Wince म्हणाले...

The western left has taught them well.

Widespread protests broke out, "with hundreds from religious parties taking to roads and highways in Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Lahore, Karachi and elsewhere"...

“We don’t accept this decision, which is given only to please the U.S. and other Western powers. Our protest will continue until and unless the supreme court reverses its decision and the blasphemer is sentenced to death...Stop working, leave everything else — this is not a time to stay at your homes and offices. It’s time to give sacrifice and protect your religion. All of you hearing my voice shut your doors and come join this protest. We don’t accept this verdict. A blasphemer can’t be forgiven and we are ready for every sacrifice, for us the honor of our prophet is everything. We are ready to face police. We are not afraid of anything.

brylun म्हणाले...

I've only been to the India/Pakistan border. I wanted to cross over and go to Lahore but my wife vetoed that idea.

Curious George म्हणाले...

"Pakistan’s highest court has spared the life of a Christian woman sentenced to death for blasphemy in a long-awaited ruling Wednesday..."

That's mighty white of them.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Islam - the religion of death and intolerance.

is it any wonder the leftwingers love it so?

hawkeyedjb म्हणाले...

These are the folks who have made England such a safe, tolerant place. More arrive every day. To what purpose? Look to Pakistan to see the end game in Europe.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

I’m looking it up...

Yep, here it is on the list:

Pakistan - shithole country

Bay Area Guy म्हणाले...

Blasphemy!

Think about how backwards the Muslim world is. If Blasphemy! were a crime, the entire Commentariat on this blog would be on death row with this poor woman.

Paul म्हणाले...

Christians need to leave that shithole called Pakistan. Plenty of other places that need our help.

Vance म्हणाले...

Remember, both Inga and Chuck and likely Ritmo have emphatically said you are a bigot racist hater who should be shunned at best if you even so much as suggest that we shouldn't import millions upon millions of these enlightened people.

Of course, the left views the persecution of Christians as the main feature of Islam, not a bug. It's the reason why the left overlooks little things like burning gays alive and chopping off women's heads for driving. You can't make that post-Christian omelette without breaking a few eggs, know what I mean?

Besides, both the left and Islam have the same views on women.... they are there to be used for sex, and who cares about what's in their head? You know this is true because what is priority 1 for the left? Abortion--or eliminating the biggest consequence of women being promiscuous. Islam degrades women and puts them in burkas so their male "master" can enjoy them as sex objects. The left degrades women and tells them to be promiscuous so the Democrat "men" can enjoy them as sex objects and kill any resulting babies.

No wonder the left loves Islam so much.

CWJ म्हणाले...

"Here in the USA a person accused of making a racist remark can't be forgiven."

Interesting observation, Mike. Absent the death sentence, it's right on point.

buwaya म्हणाले...

There are Muslims and there are Muslims and there are Muslims ...

I've known and worked with and lived with lots of Muslims.
Lovely people, and I mean that sincerely.

That, the many faces of Islam, is part of the problem. There is no consistent response because the people you need to apply it to are extremely inconsistent. And no position can be taken towards treating people as individuals because you are dealing with cultures.

Right there in Pakistan, in whatever town you have the hundreds of loudmouth wannabe headchoppers, there certainly are a larger number of lovely people too scared to say no. The real problem is collective, in that Islam by its essential nature always gives the extremists and fanatics license and moral authority.

CWJ म्हणाले...

We even have our own "religious courts" to enforce sanctions upon those accused of racism, homophobia, etc.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

Blogger buwaya said...
"The real problem is collective, in that Islam by its essential nature always gives the extremists and fanatics license and moral authority."

buwaya makes a fair point. The problem is not Muslims, the problem is Islam. But where you have Muslims, you have Islam.

Ray - SoCal म्हणाले...

The problem is Wahabi Islam.

Pakistan used to have a pretty mellow version of Islam.

Thanks Zia!

Darrell म्हणाले...

I watched the Joanna Lumley BBC series about the Silk Road. The old Soviet "Stans" were a revelation--ultra-modern cities in the ones that have oil and natural gas resources. Old cities modeled on the best parts of 19th Century Paris, for those without. Mostly secular dress and friendly Western-curious people. Asia Bibi would be much better off there.

buwaya म्हणाले...

The problem is not the Wahabi strain of Islam.
That is an expression of the problem, but it is just an instance.
Some people like to categorize and taxonomize things, but on these questions it is very misleading.

There have been many Wahabi-ish strains of Islam. There have also been extremely non-Wahabi strains of Islam that nevertheless inspired conquest and mass-murder and extermination of local cultures, and fueled the harrassing opportunistic raiding that created thousands of miles of bloody borders.

The problem is Islam, not some flavor of it.

William म्हणाले...

There was a report on her on BBC this morning. The woman has been kept in isolated confinement for near ten years. She now suffers from dementia.......Perhaps there's a compromise to be had. Instead of executing blasphemers, keep them in solitary confinement for ten years and subject them to harsh living conditions and violent threats until they're driven mad. By the terms of this more reasonable punishment code, the woman has been punished sufficiently and can now safely be released back into society.

Danno म्हणाले...

The Muslim women kavanaughed her and she was almost put to death.

buwaya म्हणाले...

Pakistan was always a turbulent place, of tribes and clans and castes and mad mullahs. Theres a reason the British kept the larger part of the old Indian Army garrisoned there, and it was not just because of the Afghans.

William म्हणाले...

The amusing thing about Pakistan is that they possess nuclear weapons.

William म्हणाले...

If you live in poverty and ignorance and in fear of violent death, you're likely to become more devout in your religious observance. These mullahs know what they're doing. With proper guidance, there's no reason why Pakistan cannot become as devout as Yemen, Syria, or Libya.

Etienne म्हणाले...

The solution is simple. Poison their water, but don't tell them first.

AlbertAnonymous म्हणाले...

All I did was say to my wife “that Halibut was good enough for Jehovah”...

traditionalguy म्हणाले...

Legalistic Religions must make sacrificial blood offerings to their god, or they will self destruct from unatoned for guilt. The Muzzies chose outsiders, or the weak among them, and proudly slaughter them to propitiate allah.

With Religions like that, we don't need a deadly enemy.

n.n म्हणाले...

Islam is a universal religious/moral philosophy, that when coupled with a suitable ideology, is competitive to suppress and abort in sheer numbers with socialism, communism, fascism, and progressivism. #PrinciplesMatter #HateLovesAbortion

Bad Lieutenant म्हणाले...

Blogger Etienne said...
The solution is simple. Poison their water, but don't tell them first.

10/31/18, 10:05 AM


Nah-smallpox. Your colonists may wish to drink that water some day.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

She probably proclaim she is a vegan.

Lewis Wetzel म्हणाले...

Ironic, isn't it, that Islam calls Christians "infidels" because they believe that Christians worship things that are not God?

Ray - SoCal म्हणाले...

Christians in Pakistan seemed trapped there.

Uk has no interest in taking them. Court case for asylum, the Christians were ruled against.

400 or so were stuck in Thailand.

I am not sure if India takes them.

Not sure with Pakistan Hindus.

But numbers in Pakistan of non Muslims are going down.

Ray - SoCal म्हणाले...

Wahabi Islam, very conservative, has due to oil money funding religious schools and mosques worldwide moved Islam to be more conservative. And conservative Islam does not play well with others.

The rule of Islam if somebody converts from Islam, they should be put to death, deters conversions.

Earnest Prole म्हणाले...

I suppose anyone who opposes executing this woman for blasphemy is a purveyor of civility bullshit.

PhilD म्हणाले...

Will the 'Handmaidens' send a contingent of their ilk to Pakistan to protect Bibi and women's rights?

Qwinn म्हणाले...

Notice how our resident lefties never appear in these threads?

Qwinn म्हणाले...

CWJ: Nonsense. Democrats can say the most vile racist things imaginable without any consequence whatsoever. Now if you add "Republican" as a qualifier, you'd be right. Which goes to show what the actual unforgivable blasphemy is. It ain't racism.

JaimeRoberto म्हणाले...

Trump should offer her asylum.

CWJ म्हणाले...

Qwinn,

The left have shown no particular aversion to eating their own. Bret Weinstein and James Damore are top of mind examples. You have a point, but my and Mike's observations are hardly nonsense.

Qwinn म्हणाले...

Those guys are left by our standards, not theirs. Remember, anyone to the right of Trotsky is "extreme right". Including Trotsky.

Marc in Eugene म्हणाले...

I have no doubt that if Mrs Bibi and her family want asylum in the US, and if Mr Trump offers it, Christians will find the money to support them.

I'm sure I'm not the only one here who avoids
committing the sin of blasphemy.

Leland म्हणाले...

if the government believes it can stop us with the use of force, they are living in fools’ paradise.

That's a heck of a thing to say when you are protesting for the death penalty.

Bill म्हणाले...

Get her the hell out of that wretched country.

glacial erratic म्हणाले...

Sounds reasonable. Let's bring in more Muslims!