But it's just a headline. From the article:
The children of presidents are generally left alone during their undergraduate years. Malia Obama mostly flies under the media radar at Harvard, and other students at Stanford went out of their way to treat Chelsea Clinton as any other classmate.Interesting to hear from a lawprof whose field is "progressive politics and community development" that the focus is on analyzing the law and learning lawyerly skills. And it's no surprise that Tiffany didn't want to get coffee with the student who professed to be "genuinely curious" about her thoughts. To my ear, the intro "I'm curious" is never as disarming as people who say it seem to think.
But Tiffany Trump’s experience has been different. She’s in her mid-20s, and even before she arrived at Georgetown Law, it was clear she would be a proxy for her father’s often divisive politics, whether or not she shares them.
Maria Kari, a Pakistani Canadian lawyer who enrolled in the law school’s master’s program, penned an open letter that was published last year in Teen Vogue. In it she questioned Tiffany’s motivations for choosing law school and outlined her own anxieties about the Trump administration, which she felt was causing “chaos around the world.”
Kari, who shares no classes with Tiffany, had hoped to talk to the first daughter about her concerns and spotted Tiffany leaving a building on campus and introduced herself as the author of the letter. Tiffany, according to Kari, said she had read it several times.
“I told her that I really would love to get coffee sometime and hear her thoughts — I said ‘I’m genuinely curious,’ ” Kari said. Tiffany told her to be in touch, but Kari’s attempts to send an email through the student directory were unsuccessful. Kari also tried DMing her on Instagram, but heard nothing....
Anthony Cook, a law professor who teaches progressive politics and community development, says that Tiffany may encounter critiques of her father’s administration in the classroom. But even the most liberal professors take care not to let partisanship overtake scholarship, he said. “They are mostly focused on analysis of law and teaching the skills that students need — how to isolate the essential issues of a case, how to argue both ways.”...
Greyson Wallis, a graduate who participated in the protest of the Sessions speech as a third-year student, said... [s]ome of her friends think Tiffany shouldn’t be held accountable for her father’s actions. “Some of them say that the sins of the father shouldn’t be visited on the children — but I think that, look, none of us are children,” Wallis said. “She is a grown woman with an Ivy education who has elected to be silent and thereby complicit, like her sister.”...
What headline would fit the substance of the article? Rather than "If Tiffany Trump wants to be just another Georgetown Law student, her plan isn’t working," a fair headline might be something like "At least some Georgetown students find it hard to let Tiffany Trump be just another law student."
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Is Asshole 101 a course in all law schools?
The left is amoral. What else is now ?
The boys at Georgetown Law just want to grab her by the
Greyson Wallis sounds like someone to stay away from. Her comment is more off-putting than her name.
"She is a grown woman ... who has elected to be silent and thereby complicit"
No one has enough time in the day to be shouting about everything. We're all complicit about something.
Who has Greyson Wallis failed to disown and why not?
So Tiffany Trump is "fair game" because she won't denounce her father for.... existing, I guess.
Next, will we hear Chelsea asked to denounce her father's bimboizing? Her mother's Vodka IV and love of Huma? Will Malia be asked if her dad is really Reggie Love's lover and whether Michelle is a guy? Actually, I think Malia should be asked if she was abused by that fat lesbian who's show she intervened for (I think, maybe it was the other Obama girl).
Isn't the left lovely?
Foreign LLM student (Pakistani-Canadian) publishes obnoxious article in Teen Vogue whining about the usual leftist laundry list of complaints, direct at incoming 1L. Foreign LLM student acts surprised that 1L (now 2L) blows her off. Foreign LLM student is an idiot.
I think I spent three years of law school without even speaking to a LLM student. Frankly, other than the tax law LLM's, it wasn't really clear why they going to law school at all.
Imagine she has gotten pretty good at deflecting all kinds of agenda-driven approaches. Still, the benefits associated with being the only child of Marla Maples and Donald Trump probably greatly exceed the handicaps. I wonder if life would be different if she went by Tiffany Maples.
a fair headline might be something like
The word fair has an archaic ring these days, no?
The the sins of the father is an interesting borrowing.
The bible contradicts itself on this one.
At least Greyson Wallis didn't claim the first stone. Not in the article, anyway.
"But even the most liberal professors take care not to let partisanship overtake scholarship, he said."
Doesn't come close to passing the laugh test.
This is a "news" story? I'm looking for the actual events that created some "news" for the WP to "report." the only event I can see "reported" is that Maria Kari approached Tiffany Trump and asked to meet her for coffee. No exchange of views is "reported." Only that the proposed coffee klatsch has not yet occurred.
Everything else is "fake news" created by the WP approaching other students and faculty to ask for their views, then "reporting" that Tiffany's "plan" to be just another student isn't working.
I just read Anthony Cook's biography on the Georgetown website. On its face, he's an interesting person. Not the cartoon you'd think he might be with his stated specialty.
Retiring Rep. Goodlatte's son has just said some rude crap about his father. I'm sure that's what they want from Tiffany.
IMO it's tough to take seriously anyone with the name of Tiffany. Unless they're working a bar or on a raised platform next to a pole.
Greyson Wallis has that WASP characteristic of interchangeable first and last names. She should check her privilege.
> Is Asshole 101 a course in all law schools?
No, but it seems to be an important prerequisite for admission.
Maria Kari, a Pakistani Canadian lawyer who enrolled in the law school’s master’s program, penned an open letter that was published last year in Teen Vogue.
Why is someone who's apparently been to law school and passed the bar writing open letters to Teen Vogue?
A better headline would be along the lines of "Georgetown Law students harass classmate Tiffany Trump because they don't like her father."
This is all about making it acceptable to harass anyone and anything connected to Trump.
The professor sounds good. The quoted students sound like jerks. They'll fit into the surrounding area well.
If you offered me $1,000,000 a year, I wouldn't move to Georgetown.
Ann Althouse said...What headline would fit the substance of the article?
"If Tiffany Trump Thinks We'll Treat Her the Way We Demand Children of Democrat Presidents Are Treated She's Wrong"
TRUTH DIES IN DARKNESS
"Lacking better arguments for their policy positions, Georgetown law students rationalize their hatred of all things Trump"
A.A. asks "What headline would fit the substance of the article?"
Tiffany Trump studies law at Georgetown. Our reporters are sent to find evidence of TDS at the University.
Tiffany wants her billion dollar inheritance or she'd change her last name to Maples. To be associated with the Schlumps is highly embarrassing.
"So Tiffany Trump is "fair game" because she won't denounce her father for.... existing, I guess."
Exactly. In the world of identity politics, you are your category. So in a very real sense, one has no reality beyond simply existing. There is no agency, no chance of redemption, no way out of the box. The only actions available to you are to either passively exist in your assigned category, or signal that you are not a member of the other categories. Hence, the importance in identity politics of denouncing the members of other categories.
I spent my early 20s living in Georgetown, working on Capitol Hill. Mostly, I just drank profusely at the Tombs and Champions, and slept with girls.
I was supposed to be doing work for a Congressman, but I can't even remember what I did.
I think the Pussy-hat wearing, Antifa-loving, Lena Dunham, Sandra Fluke feminist, Marxist lawyer-types ended all the parties -- but it was fun while it lasted. This was in the late 80s, during the transition from Reagan to Bush 1.
What a stupid fucking article. Tiffany Trump should tell that curious, whiny little busy-body to mind her own Pakistani business and piss off.
Georgetown Students Cause Tiffany Epiphany
I like Marla Maples.
If you offered me $1,000,000 a year, I wouldn't move to Georgetown.
You'd have to spend it all on rent, anyway.
SDaly -
Fair enough. But compared to the true doctrinaire cartoons of academia, I think he's presented as reasonable. Let's just say he's on the live action end of the animation spectrum.
Personally, I'd like to have a beer with him and get him talking.
It must be a curious thing, to be a grown daughter of a world-historical figure.
And indeed to be even a peripheral part of that whole thing.
To know that your own behavior is likely to be significant in great matters (not that they should be, but nothing is fair).
To know for a fact that, probably, dozens of historians will eventually be bothering you about your father and family, and your own role, whatever it is.
Its a great responsibility.
Maybe the foreign troublemaker should go home, eh? Either one.
"But even the most liberal professors take care not to let partisanship overtake scholarship, he said. “They are mostly focused on analysis of law and teaching the skills that students need — how to isolate the essential issues of a case, how to argue both ways.”...
That's a complete crock.
"a law professor who teaches progressive politics and community development"
Genuinely curious. Are there professors who teach conservative politics and, say, small business development?
"But even the most liberal professors take care not to let partisanship overtake scholarship"
According to who? another liberal law professor? What a load of bullshit! Remember, leftists never think they're being ideological or partisan, just using common sense and putting people first or some other such garbage cliche. It's always the other guys - the EVIL conservatives that do that! Don't believe that crap for a second.
We need to reintroduce the concepts of boundaries and personal space to these cretins raised to poke their noses into everyone else’s business. I second the quest to determine why a grown woman with a law degree is writing “open letters” to TEEN VOGUE. Sheesh. What a loser!
Remember when the one of the Bush twins got reported to the cops for "underage drinking" at a college party. Yeah "presidential kids fly under the radar."
According to who? another liberal law professor? What a load of bullshit!
They really can't tell. They are at the effect of their inner child, the one that has veto power over their every thought, and it vetos any and all thoughts that question their liberalism and the constant stream of frissons of feelings of superiority. They are addicts than they will rationalize their addiction any way they have to. But this stalker should be thrown out of the school.
"If Tiffany Trump wants to be just another Georgetown Law student, it ain't gonna happen, because we won't let her."
I too have endured the curse of anonymity.
Stalkers.
The word “complicit” is banished from our house. Mostly for language reasons. People are misusing this word and abusing it terribly since Trump was elected. Most of my aversion to it is when people just throw it out, like the Paki-nuck wacko in the article who tosses it like an epithet. The word is only part of a prepositional phrase, usually paired with “in” and an object, like, “complicit in the robbery” or some such similar formulation. That was kind of the humor (I thought) in the SNL “Complicit perfume” commercial: The fact it was an open ended partial phrase. Anyway, air heads who use it as a label without elaboration are not the smart set they imagine themselves to be. They are ignorant and their thought process, like this prepositional phrase, is incomplete. Lacking.
It has always amazed me how assholes are oblivious to how they appear to normal people. The author of that article and everyone discussed in that article is a giant asshole except for Tiffany Trump.
If you read that article and think less of Miss Trump and more of all the other people mentioned in it, then you are also an oblivious asshole.
Complicity is a crime, right? Just like conspiracy, collusion and Russian canoodling.
The great news is the by the end of 1st year of Law, Tiff will know how to file restraining orders on all these stalkers...
With any luck the offenders will need to keep 100 yards away and will thus miss all the classes...
I'm retired now, so if G'town Law is looking for someone to teach "progressive politics and community development", I'm available. I could make those students' heads spin, but they'd learn (or at least they'd hear) some things they probably aren't learning now.
It has probably not occurred to any of these people that some day Tiffany Trump will have the means and opportunity to Get Even, should she condescend to do so.
"She is a grown woman ... who has elected to be silent and thereby complicit"
Is that the standard that the Washington Post is going to take regarding Bill and Hillary Clinton's rapacious activities? Hillary and her best friend Harvey Weinstein...
It's almost like they can't even see their double standard.
“She is a grown woman with an Ivy education who has elected to be silent and thereby complicit, like her sister.”...
Is Greyson Wallis smart enough to understand he admitted culpability for antifa attacks?
Interesting to hear from a lawprof whose field is "progressive politics and community development" that the focus is on analyzing the law and learning lawyerly skills.
You misspelled laughable.
"'Some of them say that the sins of the father shouldn’t be visited on the children — but I think that, look, none of us are children,' Wallis said."
No, but apparently some of you haven't matured out of adolescence, mentally or emotionally.
"'She is a grown woman with an Ivy education who has elected to be silent and thereby complicit, like her sister.'"...
I turn statements like this from "educated", allegedly intelligent people over and over, and still see nothing but the mental weakness, if not real mental illness, associated with the susceptibility to cult thinking.
That, or someone who just isn't ain't all that bright.
The Canuckistani dame appears to be a garden-variety asshole with an inflated ego.
NorthOfTheOneOhOne: Why is someone who's apparently been to law school and passed the bar writing open letters to Teen Vogue?
Sounds about right to me, based on the quotes attributed to her.
Ann Althouse said...What headline would fit the substance of the article?
"Tiff with Tiff Leaves Stu feeling Blue"
"'Some of them say that the sins of the father shouldn’t be visited on the children — but I think that, look, none of us are children,' Wallis said."
What's motivated thinking for $600, Alex?
"elected to be silent and thereby complicit ..."
So, what's next, SILENCE=DEATH? "You have no right to remain silent!" saith the "progressive" lawprof? Or, "What else could silence mean, if not guilt?" How about, "If you're not with us then you must be against us (there are no innocent bystanders).
This denial of a basic right to privacy would be disgraceful coming from anyone, yet somehow seems particularly disgraceful coming from law school professors and law students.
Ann Althouse said...What headline would fit the substance of the article?
Prix Nix Tiff Mix.
My headline: “Look at this cool Tif pic: read more Tif stuff.”
I took a Constitutional Law class (undergraduate) during Watergate with the son of one of John Ehrlichman (or maybe Haldeman). Although students were very anti-Nixon, nobody hassled him. We felt sorry for him. The idea that he was obliged to denounce his father or be "complicit" . . . It was a crazy time, but not that crazy.
“If WaPo Wants to be Just Another Resistance Rag, It’s Working”
Leftwing bitch wanted to be a leftwing bitch in Tiffany's face. That's my guess. That's what leftwing bitches are.. Fa.
Fascist.
Yancy @ 4:32.
Yep.
“Stalking Ms. Maples”
“Pakinuck Pouts over Tiff Flouts”
“Foreign Grad Student Obsesses Over Frosh Frisson”
It really depends on how many column inches I need to span.
Tiffany Trump went to Georgetown Law School, and You Won't Believe What Happened Next!
I wonder, what guidance does the Harvard Blue Book give on citations to Teen Vogue?
Or a better headline: "Liberals are Assholes"
That idiot Pakistani approached Tiffany and had a conversation. Not likely! Did anyone at the WAPO actually check this out? Given the TDS hate, the Secret Service agents guarding Tiffany wouldn't let her anywhere near a Pakistani! Go ahead and call me a racist! That's the only thing the Left has and it doesn't register. Never felt so free to talk about race before!
Tiffany Trump should have gone to George Mason’s School of Law. It’s the one named for Antonin Scalia.
I have a better headline.
"Principles of Good Breeding Apparently Don't Apply to Liberals".
Come to think of it, that would do for about 60% of WaPo stories.
I agree with hstad. I would hope that anyone approaching the child of a president uninvited would attract negative attention from the Secret Service detail.
I read somewhere that Pakistan has a few teeny weenie problems in its culture and the way it treats women. I would be genuinely curious to find out how this woman and her father have completely transcended all those iitsy bitsy problems and can now lecture us on the proper way to live our lives.
"it was clear she would be a proxy for her father’s often divisive politics, whether or not she shares them."
Translation from the progish: "divisive" = stuff progs don't like; a person must be judged by her political associations; in particular, a person associated with anything progs don't like must be treated as a "proxy."
"the Trump administration, which she felt was causing “chaos around the world.”
Huh?
"Anthony Cook, a law professor who teaches progressive politics and community development"
In a law school?
"Greyson Wallis, a graduate who participated in the protest of the Sessions speech as a third-year student, said... [s]ome of her friends think Tiffany shouldn’t be held accountable for her father’s actions. “Some of them say that the sins of the father shouldn’t be visited on the children — but I think that, look, none of us are children,” Wallis said. “She is a grown woman with an Ivy education who has elected to be silent and thereby complicit, like her sister.”..."
And there we have that rare creature, an honest prog: any person who does not disavow what progs don't like is "complicit" and should be "held accountable."
"What headline would fit the substance of the article?"
"Welcome to progworld, Tiffany: This Is Who They Are"
We leave D kids alone - but you R kids - well, we are going to Maxine Waters Antifa you. Violence, intimidation, brown shirt. No welcome mat for U.
Because tolerance.
WAPO left wondering why the children of democrat party members are left alone, but the children of Republicans just can't accomplish that ability to be left alone. What is it with these privileged rich republican kids that they can't stop inviting attacks on themselves?
Tiffany is good looking and smart. Her father, besides being President, is a billionaire. We all have burdens to bear on our weary journey to the grave. Tiffany's do not appear to be insurmountable.
"a law professor who teaches progressive politics and community development"
Now to the point where they don't bother disguising with vague language.
From sifting and winnowing to sniffling and whining.
So is the Pakinadian there due to a "holistic" consideration?
The Pakinadian is taking a space for an American of color.
You folks do realize that at Meadehouse there’s a bet re the under/over re how many of you can’t resist the Pakistan thing?
Sorry, Meade. I just killed your win.
OTOH, many/most still may not understand. Not a puppet, not a puppet, you’re a puppet, you’re a puppet.
I just drank profusely at the Tombs and Champions
Those are the bars the drinkers of my HS class went to in the late 70's, before all bars got picky.
"Tiffany's do not appear to be insurmountable."
I'm not sure. Betsy DeVos is a billionaire and is being attacked by leftist radicals every time she goes in public.
The Democrats are feeding the crazies conspiracy theories that will get someone killed.
I don't even trust the Secret Service after that one agent's comment. Plus all the fuckups under Obama.
I had someone say to me once "oh please have lunch with us I want to know everything about you". I didn't have lunch with them and I actually never saw those people again. I couldn't run away fast enough.
“I'm not sure. Betsy DeVos is a billionaire and is being attacked by leftist radicals every time she goes in public.”
And, some of the libs messed up one of her boats.
Ironically that may have resulted in Buffet taking the insurance hit. Not that this was an Issa — where the files were, coincidentally, first removed. [That luck was Jesus looking out for a true believer.]
Right. And no one would be foolish enough to bet against 'shitter insinuating "That's Raaaaacist!"
But hey..that's what your "holistic" policies are.
God, I wish I was in her shoes. I can tell douches to fuck off all day long. In this scenario it’d be pure pleasure. Her mistake is not being combative enough. Scorch a few of these passive/aggressive clowns and the rest will go out of their way to avoid you. They’re not equipped for real world pushback.
Walt,
it’s not racism that resulted in the Issa burn (where his documents were spared and his financial trouble was relieved). That was Jesus.
I wonder how many friends Ms. Kari would have invited along on her planned kaffeeklatsch with Tiff?
And further, how many bike locks would the Secret Service have had to confiscate from Kari's friends?
Wasn’ Issa one of the richest folks in congress?
Cool stuff.
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It's the Progs' (un)civil version of "Corruption of the Blood".
It's one of the first things they would amend out of the Constitution had they the chance.
Does anyone here recognize how batshit INSANE it is for a political group to think they have all the answers to all human problems, not just now but for all time, and that those who disagree are intellectual, social and political Morlocks, contemptible "grovelling goblins"??
(talking to you, Chuck and Inga)
The best way (even w/o a pr benefit) to get out to of a boat is insurance. [Resale sux.] A blessing! The Lord works in mysterious ways.
@Freeman, if you only had a measly million you couldn’t afford to live in Georgetown anyway.
It's in the WaPoo, so it's WaPoop.
Sorry 'shitter. Not hip to your Issa thang.
Yeah, I am sure DeVos vandalized her own 40 million dollar yacht for the 10K (which is maybe a tank of gas) insurance payoff.
What is really funny is to hear a Hillary supporter talk about files.
TinV,
Insurance only covers the loss. If that’s not clear, ask Issa how this works.
The best way (even w/o a pr benefit) to get out to of a boat is insurance.
I could introduce you, Peanut, to the guy who sank a race boat for the insurance.
Then there are others.
I can't find the link anymore to the guy who sank a well known racing sailboat but it didn't go down.
A good article about why Georgetown will not teach Tiffany Trump anything.
I regularly field articles from people with advanced humanities degrees who ought to have flunked fifth-grade writing. Just about every professor at a non-elite institution can tell similar stories, and even at elite institutions can clearly tell the marked differences in students admitted due to affirmative action, which can be the equivalent of an artificial 400-point SAT score boost.
We the people are well aware that we have to pay for a fat layer of incompetents to pretend to serve us atop the costs of doing things right ourselves. Renn lists many other evidences of the prevalence and heights of corruption among Americans in high levels of responsibility. Consider the revitalized wave of sex scandals among Catholic and evangelical megachurch leaders, and the federal officials refusing to carry out the policies of a duly elected president, to the point of using opposition research as the apparent basis to start a bottomless witch hunt.
I wonder if they are the least bit interested in Tiffany as a person.
I used to see her around where I lived. She was noticeable really only because Marla Maples was so pretty, but Tiffany wasn't a pretty teenager. At the time I felt so horrible for her because Ivanka was so pretty and the Trump kids were all famous and in the business or in fashion or on the show. And there was Tiffany, out in California like not a real Trump. None of these people seem interested in finding out what her life has been like.
"Maria Kari, a Pakistani Canadian lawyer who enrolled in the law school’s master’s program, penned an open letter that was published last year in Teen Vogue."
Did she write it as a Pakistani Canadian lawyer?
Typical leftist, they just have to tell you what they think, and why you are wrong. More often they deploy via the passive aggressive: ask you for your thoughts on a topic just so they can tell you theirs.
A cheery FO should do the trick, they'll piss on you anyway.
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Some asshole said: "IMO it's tough to take seriously anyone with the name of Tiffany. Unless they're working a bar or on a raised platform next to a pole".
My first wife and I named our daughter Tiffany Erin. Tiffany invokes class, not nude dancers. She has grown into a wonderful women with two children and we are very proud of her.
So you can go fuck yourself.
Just occurred to me that Daddy might care strongly about his daughter enough to have "someone" look after her well being. His pal Bibi may know thing or two about such matters as well.
As the song goes... "You don't tug on superman's cape, you don't spit into the wind..."
@Bumble Bee, I assume she has Secret Service protection.
Big Mike l: "@Bumble Bee, I assume she has Secret Service protection."
She'd better if LLR Chuck or any of his lefty allies are in the same Time Zone.
The headline ought to read "Young Trump is one brave woman, thrown into the lion's den of the left at young age." Reading about the creeps that won't leave her alone, makes me think the Obama girls would show some mettle by going to Hillsdale College. Of course at Hillsdale, they are too decent and thoughtful to be as creepy as they are at Georgetown.
Better Headline: Dems are such sore losers, they violate the norms about Presidential Children and accost them openly.
Obviously ICE needs to do some checking on Student Visas if we are going to do incredibly silly things like that.
I see mistaken respect for school ... Look at it this way ...
Law school = boot camp for lawfare training
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