Trump said talks with North Korea would be "a process” and he's been telling the North Koreans to "take your time," tempering expectations for the kind of breakthrough he had previously said was achievable. He described the meeting as "getting to know you, plus." Trump also signaled a change of tone, saying: “I don’t want to use the term maximum pressure any more.” That kind of rhetoric had angered the North Koreans, but was the standard way members of the Trump administration described their approach.
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Trump's summit with Kim Jong-Un is on again.
Axios reads between the lines:
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"Maximum pressure" got him what he wanted. If it's become a liability, then he drops it. No biggie, it's all tactics. That's what Trump's critics are so loath to pick up on--none of it is crazy, all of it is calculated.
Given that the press is standing by their earlier misquote of a Trump spokesperson, shouldn't their headlines now read: "Trump does the Impossible!"
Yeah, a meeting about having a meeting. As expected. Good to see him depress the breathless expectations of the chattering class.
The New York Times reported that this would be impossible!
Trump is adjustable. Results matter. Process doesn’t.
The NYT can report that there are 1000 North Koreans in North Korea. They are good at counting.
Crazy bastard wants to start world war three.
Then, gonna end abortion and round up all the alternative lifestyles and put them back in chains.
Oh, wait...never mind..
How can Trump keep all those "Kims" straight?
Was it really ever off or just paused working out the details like get serious?
I’m meeting with Kim Kardashian. You need to know where you rank.lolol
Trump’s Energy has been a wonder to behold. When does he get to sleep? When the battles are all over, perhaps.
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He described the meeting as "getting to know you, plus."
So kinda like his summit with Stormy Daniels. As Lenin said, it remains to be seen who is who and who is whom.
none of it is crazy, all of it is calculated.
I agree. The trial ballon of commuting the Blagovich sentence. Pardoning Martha Stewart. This is low hanging fruit that will buy a lot of goodwill.
In my career, I wrote software for several start-ups. Looking back, the successful start-ups were all associated with leaders that were very Trump-like. They created success, and then leveraged the first success into more success.
Althouse,
Once againTrump is using maximum pressure, while saying he's not using maximum pressure, because Trump can't do anything but LIE!
/Chuck
Ann, you will be very sorry you ran a post on this ridiculous meeting when everyone knows Mueller is about to wipe Trump's presidency off the map like a KJU missile strike.
Numerous sources have confirmed the man he met with today is not from North Korea but is actually a Russian agent. The North Korea angle was used because no one knows what a North Korean other than KJU looks like and they would be easily fooled. Mueller and his staff have matched his face with that of a known associate of PUTIN HIMSELF, and furthermore this man is known for obstructing justice in his home country.
This was the final piece of evidence we have all been waiting for!
/Inga
EarnestProle and Lenin
Sitting in a tree
K-I-L-L-I-N-G
I just want to say this whole North Korean peace effort has nothing - NOTHING - to do with that lying liar Trump. It's all Pompeo. If it weren't for Pompeo, nothing would be happening as Trump can't negotiate his way out of a Big Mac wrapper.
If Kim gives up his nukes and we build the next Disneyland in Pyongyang, I will never give Trump one iota of credit. This would have happened long ago in the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama Presidencies if only Trump hadn't been alive and breathing air in NYC.
He has done nothing but cancel the summit so far, and thank God for Pompeo bailing his ass out time and again to keep this thing on track.
A final note, I'm not sure it was even Trump in the Oval Office today. He's such a screw-up Pompeo probably had the CIA lock him in a closet and roll out a fake Trump just so he didn't screw it up. The North Koreans are a proud people - always truth-telling - and to be in the presence of a liar like Trump would have scuttled the deal the instant they met him.
You can be sure of that!
/Chuck
Not entirely OT but where the hell did Axios come from?
Suddenly it is all over the media including television which interviews people ID'd simply as an "Axios" reporter as if that's equivalent to The Times, Post, WSJ or whatever ancient name you care to mention.
After the Trump era of good feelings ends, how will people stand 'politics as usual'?
Ann, my sources are very excited at this hour. Apparently there exists MANY photos of this "North Korean" meeting with Putin and other Russians of very high rank. No one could meet with these people unless they had business with Putin and this confirms that this man is indeed a Russian agent!
The letter he was supposed to deliver was clearly from PUTIN HIMSELF and is likely a secret coded message designed to get around Mueller's airtight surveillance of Trump's every move. Once the contents of the letter have been analyzed we will all know the depths of the collusion which have occurred and impeachment proceedings can begin immediately!
/Inga
Progs said calling the meeting off was an embarrassing disaster.
So now they'll say . . . .
This is an illusion.
It isn't really happening.
I was informed by the New York times such a meeting is impossible.
Impossible!
EarnestProle and Lenin
Sitting in a tree
K-I-L-L-I-N-G
Thanks. I like to play.
Axios was George Soros' nickname given to him by the Nazis. And this explanation is just as accurate as anything you will see and hear on CNN today.
It's a good thing Kevin has his own username.... because he's channeling Inga and Chuck pretty darn well.
I really hope you have a few drinks handy, Kevin. Twisting your brain to think like Chuck is probably hazardous to your health.
Chaos. Life... with an underlying order.
Shit!
Not peace talks again!!
Anything to avoid talking about the real issue--Stormy the Sagging Stripper.
WTF people! Stay focused!!!
Axios is politico 2.0, except they have an import from the Sydney herald, probably the worst paper in Australia, tim blair often fisks it, it's foreign correspondent, wrote a hagiography of meshal, the hamas leader,
Not entirely OT but where the hell did Axios come from?
Axios is VOX, but without the drooling.
Give it time.
This thread will get really funny if the real Inga, and Chuck, and ARM show up.
Or maybe not.
no it's not nearly that stupid, it's politico, which of course came from the Washington posts most lefty writers, paul mcgeogh is the correspondent,
the telegram went out from washington station and these were the words that were said.
Fernandistein said...
How can Trump keep all those "Kims" straight?
Easily, big tits always TRUMPS bad haircut.
kim young choi, is their spychief, their beria, the man who knows where the bodies are buried because he buried them
Every Leftist/Lib/LLR: Gee, maybe this time Kim Jong Un can finally save us from Truuuuuuummmmmmppppppp!!!
The NORKs have a bad habit of welshing on their deals. Let's see what has happened six months from now. Clinton and George Bush both got two deals each from the NORKs. Obama got one deal. The NORKS violated all of them. The Donald will no doubt get a "deal" of some kind with Little Rocket Man. Give it six months and see if it sticks. If it doesn't Trump has company with the last three Presidents.
a fair point, I think with pompeo and Bolton, there will be more pressure to adhere to the deal.
Needs an Emotional Trump tag, mocking the view that Trump is not in control of himself.
I came for the reasoned discussion & instead find to die for humor at the expense of /Inga/Chuck/ARM! Also loved Jim's "Axios is VOX, but without the drooling.
Give it time." Good times, yes, good times!
Isn't Axios a men's body wash??
Why yes it is a trademark owned by the Alberto-Culver company.
Axios was the Musketeer who didn't go along with that collectivist "All for one and one for all" shit. He went into business for himself before D'Artagnan came on the scene.
The NORKs have a bad habit of welshing on their deals.
Our leverage on the Norks is far more economic than military, so if Trump pulls an Obama and hands over anything of value before utter denuclearization he will deserve our equal contempt.
Yah. If Trump gives the NK anything, it will be some fast food restaurants, and that will be the end if the Commie regime.
I say we just scrap "Maximum Pressure" and go with "Balls in a Vise" -- who's with me?
We note who isn't here yammering about bile-loaded l-narrative.
He is cunning and highly experienced in high stakes negotiation. It’s one of his strengths that I thought might work well in the job. If Democrats had appealed to his vanity and fondness for deals he might have had a very different first 16 months. Instead they went 100% oppo 100% of the time aided by nevertrumpers. Might have been the costliest “wrong fork” for the Democratic Party since nominating Wilson.
My granddaughter met Kim Kardashian last week. Kim is quite short!
He is cunning and highly experienced in high stakes negotiation.
I wanted to believe this, and then I watched in horror as Trump was gang-raped during federal budget negotiations by Ryan, Pelosi, McConnell, and Schumer.
On again off again. Just like lovers.
They have so much in common.
Looks kind of desperate when you have to pay for the other leaders hotel expenses.
Kim can afford to build nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles but the American taxpayer has to pay his hotel bills?
If Democrats had appealed to his vanity and fondness for deals he might have had a very different first 16 months.
What bullshit. They did in fact make deals with him that turned out to be pseudo-deals that he later backed out of. As is also a part of his mendacious M.O.
Just watch when he turns America into the world's biggest bankruptcy court. The things you admire about this slime mold boggle the mind.
So much in common? Please. The left would love to jail their opponents and often do, just like fatty Jong.
I hope the US finds a discreet way to off with the bastard while he's here.
Mike said...
He is cunning and highly experienced in high stakes negotiation.
If you are talking about Kim, then I agree.
Kim has figured out how to get US taxpayers to pay for his vacation, while giving up nothing of value.
He gets to strut on the world stage, meeting with the leader of the most powerful nation on earth, which he has recently threatened with nuclear annihilation, while giving up nothing of value.
It is appalling weakness. The Norks and the Chinese must be laughing their heads off. Currently there are more tariffs on goods from Canada than on China.
Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...
The left would love to jail their opponents and often do, just like fatty Jong.
Yet it has been Trump who has bent over forwards to have a meeting with the little sociopath.
ARM: "It is appalling weakness. The Norks and the Chinese must be laughing their heads off."
Ignorance on this level is difficult to fake.
Jack Wayne said...
Good to see him depress the breathless expectations of the chattering class.
The only person. Literally, the only person creating expectations was Trump. The bullshit flowed freely.
ARM - The fat bastard wants a meeting because he's out of options.
Drago said...
Ignorance on this level is difficult to fake.
If we are talking about Trump then I agree.
Weakness is sending $150B in cash (including billions in hard currency, low denominations, to fund the terrorist activities of your enemies.
And that doesn't even include pardoning terrorists.
LOL
"obama strength".....
ARM: "If we are talking about Trump..."
We are not....
But I understand the position you are in.
You have gone "all in" on several completely contradictory positions on this and other issues. You have no where else to go, hence your inconsequential mewling from the sidelines.
Which, on some levels, is cute....but not for a grown man....
Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...
ARM - The fat bastard wants a meeting because he's out of options.
If he is so desperate let's see him give up something of value. How about inspections of all his nuclear sites? So far he hasn't given up anything of value.
And, nothing he says at this meeting will hold any value until he has actually given up his nukes.
PPPT: "What bullshit. They did in fact make deals with him..."
LOL
The dems/lefties gave him everything he wanted. Up front. With only promises in return, which were broken.
Just as with Iran.
You know, the people who put us in the ditch ought to be quiet now and let the elected team drive.
A wise non-latina said something like that once....
ARM: "If he is so desperate let's see him give up something of value. How about inspections of all his nuclear sites? So far he hasn't given up anything of value"
LOL
ARM the moron now wants the deal hashed out before the deal is hashed out.
Too funny.
Looks like the lefties are fresh out of new and novel complaints.
Drago said...
You have gone "all in" on several completely contradictory positions
This is sad pathetic nonsense, even for you.
List my positions, other than that either the Norks give up their nukes or its all bullshit.
Drago said...
You know, the people who put us in the ditch ought to be quiet now and let the elected team drive.
North Korea 20, Iran 0.
As hare-brained as they are, I have to opine that the actual economic consequences of US steel import tariffs and Chinese soybean tariffs are essentially zero.
Comanche Voter said...
The NORKs have a bad habit of welshing on their deals. Let's see what has happened six months from now. Clinton and George Bush both got two deals each from the NORKs. Obama got one deal. The NORKS violated all of them. The Donald will no doubt get a "deal" of some kind with Little Rocket Man. Give it six months and see if it sticks.
Tell it to Drago (and Trump).
The left is spinning so furiously they can't even remember their earlier lies..all in support of our adversaries and economic competitors.
Just listen to the ARM's of the world crying in their soup over Trump demanding fair trade policies with our competitors.
Quite frankly, all the left had to do was pretend not to be anti-American and insane for 12 months and they had it all in the bag.
Needless to say, that was beyond their capabilities.
ARM: "Tell it to Drago (and Trump)."
Uh, tell it to obama, not that he'll listen to you. Earthly "gods" don't usually listen to the mules....
The only politician in the last 30 years who HASN'T been played by the NORKS is....Trump.
LOL
Or is this going to be ANOTHER case where the dems attempt to transfer their failures onto the republicans?
Gee, I did not see that one coming...
I can see today's economic numbers have upset ARM greatly.
Not surprising. Not even LLR Chuck can gather up the "steam" necessary to post on a day like this...
LOL
Let's recall, again, that the Norks threatened our nation with nuclear annihilation, multiple times. The response of a great nation to a provocation of this kind should not be to give them validation under what can only be described as 'looking desperate' conditions.
When the Norks take back all their threats and provide a decent apology then, maybe, they get a meeting the under under secretary for garbage collection.
It’s sad to see one commenter here filled with so much jealousy. Can’t you at least acknowledge that Trump has done a something no other President has done? He has Un at a disadvantage. I don’t expect much from this meeting but it’s nice to see the USA has the upper hand for once.
Jack Wayne said...
Can’t you at least acknowledge that Trump has done a something no other President has done?
Any president could have gotten a meeting with Kim. Kim is desperate to be viewed as a 'great world leader' of a nuclear state. Only Trump has been stupid enough to indulge that need.
(Eaglebeak)
President Pee-Pee Tape may be Lyndon LaRouche. I say that only because the one person (or "person") I have ever read or heard about referring to hated others as "slime molds" was Lyndon LaRouche.
So that would be weird.
Or Iran is thru the NorKs.
It's what's on his cue card, drop scat and leave. Trump provided a credible counterforce along with the sanctions and the collapsed testing facility.
Just watch when he turns America into???
Ted! You should come out of your cabin more often!
ARM: "Any president could have gotten a meeting with Kim."
LOL
Any President could get the FED to boost Economic growth projections to 4.8% for the second quarter.
Any President could have delivered tax relief! It's so easy to deliver crumbs!
LOL
The left has nothing but hate to run on. Considering how their preferred economic policies have played out over the last 100 years and currently in Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, that "hate" thing looks pretty good by comparison.
He let the North Korean spy chief in the Oval Office... oh boy what could go wrong?
ARM: "Let's recall, again, that the Norks threatened our nation with nuclear annihilation, multiple times. The response of a great nation to a provocation of this kind should not be to give them validation under what can only be described as 'looking desperate' conditions"
What a beautiful example of lefties thinking history began this morning.
All of ARM's heroes delivered alot more than validation: they gave the NORKS food, cash, technology, energy resources, credits, etc.
You know, the very things necessary for his regime to survive.
What has Trump given him? A campaign of maximum pressure....
...and the Bowe Bergdahl hero lefties complained about it every step of the way.
Too, too funny.
Dennis Rodman got a meeting with Kim. Dennis Rodman!
I wouldn't take a meeting with Dennis Rodman.
Getting a meeting with Kim is like fucking Stormy Daniels, you are pushing on open door.
Speaking of California:
Schwarzenegger mocks Trump on coal bailout: Protect pagers, Blockbuster too
Hilarious to see the lefties like ARM and Inga start the Big Freakout.
Scott Adams has become one of my best resources for these Trump events. Strange, is it not? The usual analytical suspects seem to have no understanding at all as to what is going on in the new world, it is like they woke up in bizarro world and are walking about going, nurrrr, nurrrr.
Maybe Schwarzenegger was switched out with his clone as in the 6th day, God he is as useless Darrel issa who enabled him.
LOL
ARM reduced to "Schwarzenegger Totally Pwns Trump" style postings.
There is literally nothing left for him.
Fabulous.
Shorter Schwarzenegger: Can I please, please be relevant? Look, I'm like totally attacking Trump!! Please let me be relevant...
LOL
It's so very, very sad at the same time that it is so very, very amusing....
Meanwhile closer to home:
https://babalublog.com/2018/06/01/mexicos-presidential-front-runner-insults-trumps-policies-as-criminal-but-worships-fidel-castro-and-named-his-son-in-honor-of-che-guevara/
Send Jong-Un home in a body bag.
The lefties are falling all over themselves since their latest fake news hit job on the Trump admin (the "immigration children being separated from their parents and its all Trump's fault") has completely fallen apart.
Like all the rest of their lies.
Hilarious.
Any president could have gotten a meeting with Kim
I don't think Obama ever met with him. But I don't know what Obama ever did in his eight years with respect to North Korea. He probably just kicked the can down the road for the next guy. He was too busy entertaining rappers and Hollywood perverts at the White House.
What did he do, he did impose some mild sanctions but he put more attention on JAmes Rosen than any regime official.
Drago - without lies and manufactured outrage, they a really are hollow.
Sal: "He probably just kicked the can down the road for the next guy."
Nope. It was much worse than that.
The rocket scientist-Ben Rhodes types actually accepted a North Korean verbal pledge to cease development on their nukes and delivery systems for food and other benefits.
Literally, "no drama" obama llama accepted a verbal promise, non-verifiable, from Kim Jong Un in exchange for lots of goodies!
And these are the geniuses seeking to lecture Trump!
And quite frankly, I don't care how much it upsets LLR Chuck to hear criticism of the "magnificent" obama.
Whatever Obama did or didn't do, it's pretty fucking forgettable. Thanks a bunch to our Affirmative Action idiot and former president.
Drago takes glee in celebrating Trump's dishonesty and penchant for mendacity - probably as his entire basis for trusting him in the first place. Which is as ironic as it is stupid. The Republican Great Savior is The Great Liar. Think about the success proposition and the statement on the Republican Party in that one.
Name the three worst things Trump has done..not said, done, since he became president.
PPPT: "Which is as ironic as it is stupid."
Stupid is still believing that it was Scooter Libby that leaked Valerie Plame's totally not-clandestine agent identity to the press.
So there ya go tiger...
Gahrie: "Name the three worst things Trump has done..not said, done, since he became president."
My favorite PPPT inanity (there is a delightful abundance to choose from) was PPPT complaining that Trump was fighting the dems as they tried to remove him from office "constitutionally".
That one was literally laugh out loud funny.
All the li'l Adam Schiff-ty fanboys really don't get how this whole thing works, do they?
LOL
Inga said...
He let the North Korean spy chief in the Oval Office... oh boy what could go wrong?
6/1/18, 8:35 PM
He'll see the big board!
“The left has nothing but hate to run on. Considering how their preferred economic policies have played out over the last 100 years and currently in Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, that "hate" thing looks pretty good by comparison.”
This worries me. The nation has thrived on dichotomy for so long - both sides one-upping each other. For one side now to just sink so deeply into negativity w/o offering anything in return is deeply disturbing. Why can’t the left doff their funk and snap out of it? Have they really nothing positive to offer?
"Why can’t the left doff their funk and snap out of it? Have they really nothing positive to offer?"
Look at the (world-wide) practical results of the policies they have pushed.
He let the North Korean spy chief in the Oval Office... oh boy what could go wrong?
He might read Trump’s tweets.
he Republican Great Savior is The Great Liar. Think about the success proposition and the statement on the Republican Party in that one.
It’s a damn good thing that the Democrats are offering an honest alternative.... Oh, wait.
Inga: "He let the North Korean spy chief in the Oval Office... oh boy what could go wrong?"
I too am worried that the North Korean spy chief might see Trump's NCAA Tourney picks. If those leak early there could be a calamity.
Any Leftist Collectivists want to talk about 3.8% unemployment?
Even U6 is down to 7.8%.
Obama managed to get it down to 10% with his crazy economic ideas.
Inga said...
He let the North Korean spy chief in the Oval Office... oh boy what could go wrong?
6/1/18, 8:35 PM
Schatzie, please don't be a retard. In prior article about the new Venus Hottentot, it was noted that the desk was empty. No confidential papers to get stuck up her buttcheeks or down her poitrine. I think they can do as well or better for the Korean spymaster.
Think about the success proposition and the statement on the Republican Party in that one.
Think about that the NYT has more or less literally run out of words to praise the economy. Are they fooled by Trumpian voodoo? Are they in the tank for PDJT? Seems unlikely.
So when you say "But President Cheetos said--" I will interject "but fxnews said: https://www.fxstreet.com/news/atlanta-fed-revises-gdpnow-up-to-48-for-q2-201806011605 "-->
"The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the second quarter of 2018 is 4.8 percent on June 1, up from 4.7 percent on May 31," the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta said in its latest GDPNow report.
...
Think about the success proposition and the statement on the Republican Party in that one.
"Inga said...
He let the North Korean spy chief in the Oval Office... oh boy what could go wrong?"
Why don't you tell us what could go wrong?
Trumpian voodoo
That just reminded me, in New Richmond WI a new cafe just opened called VUDU
The sign in the window says that they serve STREET FOOD.
You guess is as good as mine.
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