At an island resort off the coast of Singapore, U.S. event planners are working day and night with their North Korean counterparts to set up a summit designed to bring an end to Pyongyang’s nuclear weapons program....
The prideful but cash-poor pariah state requires that a foreign country foot the bill at its preferred lodging: the Fullerton, a magnificent neoclassical hotel near the mouth of the Singapore River, where just one presidential suite costs more than $6,000 per night.
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The lesser partner in a hotel-based tryst needs the dominant one to pay the hotel bill.
"The U.S. is trying to find a discreet way to pay for Kim Jong Un’s hotel during the summit" (WaPo).
याची सदस्यत्व घ्या:
टिप्पणी पोस्ट करा (Atom)
पोस्ट्स
२०२ टिप्पण्या:
202 पैकी 1 – 200 नवीन› नवीनतम»Singapore is fab. If you took a trip there, Althouse, you'd love it. It's the Oriental experience but First World and super safe.
Get Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos or the Koch brothers to pay for it. Chump change for them and good publicity. Or Hell, Just have Trump pay for it privately.
DOesn't the US Secret Service regularly shut down whole hotels for the president anyway? Use whatever fund we used to pay for Michelle Obama's trip to Spain where they took over hotels and closed the beach.
When we traveled on the govermnet’s dime (i.e. grant money), we doubled up two per room.
However, we should let Kim have his own room. We do want his nuclear weapons.
NK has been having a harder time paying its bills since changes in technology, adopted by the US Treasury, made US currency harder to counterfeit.
Not sure I believe it.
Charge it to Xi.
They should just "pay" him the standard government daily reimbursement rate that any employee would get and which is IRS approved.
About $93 a day or for extra special hotels $253 a day. If the hotel is more....suck it.
No per deim for food though. That would break the bank, looking at Little Kim.
Nork extortion has worked for years, but now it should be time for them to sell their toys on eBay.
Why is the Washington Post and presumably leakers in the White House trying to nuke this summit? Is it more important to bring down Trump than to end the Korean War?
So we have a limited perspective on the potential costs of making some deal between the interested parties.
What, pray tell, would the cost savings of having a less antagonistic North Korea be over the next decade?
Costs only make sense in light of the benefits that might obtain.
Is it more important to bring down Trump than to end the Korean War?
Why, of course it is, Tim! I assume that was a purely rhetorical question.
Jongy needs to set up a Go Fund Me fundraiser.
-or-
Trump can just say that he'll pick up the tab himself, because "this is important for the US and all the Winning".
The tryst buildup is more exciting than the actual event.
I understand Singapore will pay--or at least that's the plan. A neutral party should pay for both sides.
Some are not understanding that Trump would be happy to pick up the tab. It's about Kim losing face.
Wash dishes?? For the tab.
Trump can show him how.
Trump in apron ... Midterm win.
Of all things I begrudge paying for as a U.S. taxpayer, Kim's hotel bill is way down on the list.
I draw the line at his bar tab, though.
Stick him in the Motel 6.
Can the Clinton Foundation pony up? (I.e.penance)
Presumably it will cost extra to hire some Russian hookers to come in and piss on Kim's mattress after it's all over. These things add up.
PRESIDENTIAL Suite
Formerly the card room of the elite Singapore Club, this suite is furnished with a baby grand piano and has a private elevator for discreet access. The living and dining rooms extend out to a spectacular glass-enclosed verandah graced by 20-feet Doric columns – a befitting space for the Presidential Suite’s guests. A private study adjoins the handsomely furnished bedroom.
2,169sqf | 201sqm
Free WIFI | City view | Club access
https://www.fullertonhotels.com/the-fullerton-hotel/presidential-suite.html
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FYI, Kim plays piano..supposedly owns over 20.
Is Rocket Man in his repertoire?
Hahaha OMG this is rad. Instead of Trump profiting by ‘emoluments’ he’s gonna have to come all the losers and deadbeat sociopaths at his branded properties. Sitcom potential (Veep season 16, anyone?) is just an embarrassment of riches. MAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaah!
**COMP all the losers. Dang ol’ autocorrect...
One word: China.
The Fullerton is Trump branded? Do tell.
Foreign aid should meet IRS guidelines.
I assume there are prostitutes at those prices.
In some third-world African nations, where more than 80% of the population survive on foreign aid, each one of the leader's 20 wives will spend more than $6,000/night in an upscale European boutique. I wonder how WaPo reports those charitable donations, and if the IRS classifies them as deductible. They may want to appoint a special counsel.
Dennis Rodman can pick up the tab out of personal friendship.
If the US pays for the hotel, leave the money on the bed.
But just don't schedule the summit for "Shark Week".
I can just imagine Kim hiring Avenatti and bitching about Trump watching Shark Week the whole time.
Explain to Kim and his government that their choices are to stay at a safe but cheap hotel or to be hung from lamp posts, as they deserve, and that the choice is entirely up to them as we don't give a damn which happens.
Singapore is Oriental indeed, but in my opinion lacks charm and character compared to other cities. I prefer Hong Kong. More edgy but entirely "safe", if that is desirable.
And "safe" is overrated. So also, really, is the concept of comfort. Beyond the minimum (working plumbing and the option of air-conditioning). In any Asian country, go to the countryside.
"I may only be the the dictator of a tiny & poor nation, & not the elected head of the most powerful nation in the world, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night."
"Some are not understanding that Trump would be happy to pick up the tab. It's about Kim losing face.
Actually, I think it is about putting the USA in an emotional no-win situation. As such, we insult them by paying for the hotel and we insult them by telling them to pay for the hotel.
KJU was educated in the USA. He knows how to manipulate Americans.
This is just one of many diplomatic games that get played around the world. The Norks play it a little different than others, but it always happens at different levels.
The Washington Post is hating this. Of course, it is more important to torpedo the summit than sign a peace treaty and get the nukes out.
I'm quite certain this will violate the Foreign Leader Pays For Room Service clause of the Constitution.
Impeach!
Why not? The lefties are completely making it all up as they go. We'll just put this one next to the Trump is Colluding with Martians charges in the Bill of Impeachment Particulars.
walter: "What is the so much more?"
Every single hollywood celebrity AND the entire staff at MSNBC have a "so much more" file.
Once again Drudge highlights this on the front page, in red for a while. Drudge has turned on the Donald, subtly, but undoubtedly.
"Drudge has turned on the Donald"
Yeah, yeah!
Or..seeking clicks.
"Nope. Switzerland.
My bad. What I should have said was that he was educated in the West.
"a spectacular glass-enclosed verandah graced by 20-feet Doric columns" - they could probably get those Styrofoam ones Obama used at the Dem convention pretty cheap.
Hotel bill is one thing. Who'll be paying for the hookers?
Singapore. You can’t beat it with a stick.
> The Washington Post is hating this.
I haven't seen this much war mongering from the left since Lyndon Johnson took us to war in Vietnam :)
This is a thing? Really?
Is it gonna cost Nancy Pelosi abuse of government travel money?
Whatever it costs, it's worth the money.
You know how casinos make a big show of over-the-top splendor, and then everybody goes home broke?
They do that because it works.
Show the man a good time and rob him blind at the poker table. He'll be back the next time he gets restless.
It's a basic negotiating tactic to make someone feel important and valued, especially when they're making decisions they might have second thoughts about.
The worst thing you can do is put the guy up in a Holiday Inn by the airport.
Obviously Trump, who is not only a casino entrepeneur but one who has made over-the-top glitz part of the brand, does not need to be told this.
donald said...
This is a thing? Really?
It is and it highlights the absurdity of the course of action being taken here. The film 'The Mouse That Roared' now played as farce. At least the Duchy of Grand Fenwick could afford to pay for a hotel.
ARM: "It is and it highlights the absurdity of the course of action being taken here"
ARM has become like a child.
And it's hilarious!
And now Ben Rhodes to MSNBC!
Because......of course.
Of course.
And LLR Chuck gets anther MSNBC-er to adore from afar!
WaPo--Obama would do it better.
He didn't, so what? Shut up!
Have the Clinton Foundation foot the bill.
The US always paid for everything. That's the role the world sees for us.
You’re a tool ARM. A clueless, ignorant, venal tool.
Poor obama.
He spent all his time communing with the "gods" because they were the only ones who recognized his special "special-ness"...
As if the hotel would turn away Kim Jong Un and his people for not paying.
What I'd like to know is who in Hell let this slip out. The US is involved in singularly important negotiations with North Korea and having this plastered all over the Internet will not be helpful. I recommend that (1) they find the leaker, and (2) they ship him or her off to North Korea for trial and incarceration in one of their prison camps.
And I'm in favor of waterboarding every journalist in Washington and New York until we identify the culprit.
donald said...
A clueless, ignorant, venal tool.
I get the clueless and ignorant, but venal seems a little difficult to justify.
Next up for the moronic lefties:
Hotel complimentary soaps and shampoos---A National Emergency?!
Will Kim Jong Un steal hotel robes on the US Govt dime? Or is he just "borrowing it" for a very very long time?
Oh No, KJU is planning on raiding the minibar for PayDay candy bars!!!
Seriously, we need to take our resident lefty critics seriously. Like, seriously....
donald said...
This is a thing? Really?
It is and it highlights the absurdity of the course of action being taken here.
Yes, it really does highlight how absurd the left has become. You are trying to stop the end of a war.
When was the last time this happened ? Ted Kennedy colluded with Brezhnev but that was in the middle of a war.
Let's see. Hmmm. Lincoln opposed the Mexican War. Maybe that was it. 1848.
No, he opposed a war. He didn't try to prolong it.
I give up. This is unprecedented.
Wait until KJU figures out that room service nachos are really just some melted cheddar over stale tortilla chips and don't include all the "fixin's" every Texan knows is necessary for "real nachos"!
And how will WaPo and newest MSNBC contributor Ben Rhodes capture all the critical aspects of this looming crisis?
MSNBC fanboy LLR Chuck needs to know!
"venal seems a little difficult to justify. "
We don't know what government job you hold.
Could be.
Michael K: "I give up. This is unprecedented"
Not really.
The lefties have always been this insane. Its only recently they decided to be this insane about a hotel accommodation arrangement.
So, okay, maybe superficially unprecedented. Fundamentally though, same old same old for the loony left.
Listening to the lefties complain about this entire chapter of the Trump Presidency is like listening to Maxwell Smart explain what his concerns are to "99"....
Oh brother just have it at mar a lago.
Michael K said...
We don't know what government job you hold.
Says the purveyor of socialized medicine.
Geez it’s just a couple of days hotel bill and security which might actually cost less that Meghan’s wedding.
South Korea will be doing most of the heavy lifting.
Atlanta Fed predicts/sez 4.8% growth.
It won’t last but it’s better than the old normal.
Seeing Red: "Oh brother just have it at mar a lago."
Can you imagine the lefty idiots reaction if Trump personally "comped" KJU?
LOL
Despite Drago's obfuscating blathering here, the point is pretty straightforward, a country that can't afford to pay a hotel bill is not a country that should be allowed to blackmail the world's largest economy into a meeting with its leader. It is just nuts.
There are two possibilities:
i) NK is a poor as it says, in which case they are just a client state of China, a tool the Chinese use to poke the US on regular occasions. If this is the case we should deal directly with China and ignore the middle man.
ii) Alternatively, they are a genuine threat, independent of China. This is a country that has threatened us with nuclear annihilation, and taken significant steps to deliver on that threat. In this case, we should really fuck them over. What we shouldn't be doing is providing a paid vacation in Singapore.
I think the first option is closest to reality. There is no way, that I can see, that NK is operating independently of China.
ARM: "Despite Drago's obfuscating blathering here, the point is pretty straightforward, a country that can't afford to pay a hotel bill is not a country that should be allowed to blackmail the world's largest economy into a meeting with its leader"
LOL
ARM: "There are two possibilities:"
LOL
No, there aren't.
And the 2 you put forth are both wrong.
Like, Ben Rhodes wrong.....
LOL
In the Soviet era, it was very common for the Western host countries to discretely cover the Soviet delegates' expenses at international meetings in the West. As Schmidt said, Lower Slobovia with missiles. I don't think they had such patrician tastes though.
ARM: "There is no way, that I can see, that NK is operating independently of China."
Look who just caught up......
This meeting is simply a show to go thru the motions for what the US/China negotiators have worked out. A little diplomatic game everyone is politely playing to let little Rocket Man have his place in the sun as part of the larger more important deals being cut on all fronts between the Trump and Xi representatives.
Which is why Inga's constant prattling on and on about how KJU and Moon were doing all this fabulous work was laughable on its face.
Peter: "In the Soviet era, it was very common for the Western host countries to discretely cover the Soviet delegates' expenses at international meetings in the West."
Shhhhhhhh.
We are all pretending for ARM's sake that this is an unprecedented action, the likes of which the world has never before seen and is doubly, nay, triply and bigly outrageous.
Of course we will pay for the hotel. Just give us a second while we set up this surveillance equipment.
ARM: "There is no way, that I can see, that NK is operating independently of China."
Shows a total lack of reason. What does NKorea possibly have that China wants?
NKorea is a drain on Chinas resources. China would much rather see SKorea and the US prop up A unified Korea which would then turn to China for trade.
At the last meeting between Xi and Kim , Xi told Kim to fuck off and not to annoy Chinas largest trading partner.
Kim is coming because he is totally alone and damn near broke.
LOL - ARM you are such a doofus. Fat Leftwing Potemkin Village King asking for payment is just that. He's asking.
If he asked Obama to pay, would you be fine with it?
You know what the worst part of the Trump presidency is for all the butt hurt Lefties and the whining GOP Establishment?
Trump is actually succeeding.
Can you imagine 2020 if Trump brings peace to the Korean peninsula, peace between a genuinely reformed Saudi Arabia and Israel, improved relations with our traditional allies, actual fair trade with our major trading partners, a booming economy and a smaller government?
At this point Trump is the most successful Republican president since Reagan......he has a chance to approach Lincoln.
Gahrie said...
At this point Trump is the most successful Republican president since Reagan......he has a chance to approach Lincoln.
Gahrie said...
At this point Trump is the most successful Republican president since Reagan......he has a chance to approach Lincoln
Why yes..yes I did.
When in Asia ,do as the Asians do. (Thermonuclear ICBMs targeting NYC excepted)
I'm still waiting for someone to provide me with a list of the three worst things Trump has done as president.
Come on, surely this should be easy?
I thought our last President surpassed Lincoln.
If this is the case we should deal directly with China and ignore the middle man.
Earth to ARM. What the fuck do you think has been going on ?
Try to keep up.
Blogger Gahrie said...
I'm still waiting for someone to provide me with a list of the three worst things Trump has done as president.
Come on, surely this should be easy?
1. Beat Hillary.
2, Beat Hillary.
3. Beat Hillary.
Any questions ?
Any questions ?
Oddly enough, it coincides with a list of the three best things he's done.
Michael K said...
What the fuck do you think has been going on ?
A lot of fucking around with their puppet.
One thing is for certain: Kim will clean out the mini bar.
ARM: "A lot of fucking around with their puppet"
LOL
Its Opposite Day in ARM world....again...
"One thing is for certain: Kim will clean out the mini bar. "
LOL!
and it will be spun as Trump's fault.
Way upthread Drago urged that we be sure that the Singapore hotel provide Kim with "complimentary soaps and shampoos". Good, but be sure that they provide shampoo for ASIAN HAIR -- otherwise: RACIST!
(You don't think Asians can be accused of being racist toward Asians? Have you ever seen lefty commentary on Clarence Thomas as anti-Black? Ben Carson? Thomas Sowell?)
Dammit! I knew that bastard was going to hold out for something big! Please don't tell me he's demanding single-colored M&Ms too!
-sw
Okay, we'll pick up the room tab---but not room service nor wifi--and sure as heck no charges for in room porn video.
DB@Home: "and it will be spun as Trump's fault."
Dude! Think BIGGER!
It will be an impeachable offense!
Poor LLR Chuck. If ever he needed a Lefty/lib/LLR Support Group its now....
LOL
The Godfather: "Have you ever seen lefty commentary on Clarence Thomas as anti-Black? Ben Carson? Thomas Sowell?)"
Dude, have you seen LLR Chucks racist posts on Carson?
No wonder Chuck is so very much at home with hus leftist operational allies..
The U.S. economy is expanding at a 4.8 percent annualized rate in the second quarter, the Atlanta Federal Reserve’s GDPNow forecast model showed on Friday. (article by Breitbart)
So the US can certainly afford to pay for Kim's hotel rooms. What we cannot afford is to get rid of Donald Trump.
The worst thing that could happen in ARM’s world would be for the Korean War to end and not having it be Obama the Obsequious get it done, or even think it was possible. OK, that’s an exaggeration, I am sure that there are many worse things. For instance, black unemployment could reach record lows and blacks may begin to notice it. Or the US could stop Canada from transhipping cheap Chinese steel under the guise of “adding value.” We all know China has a problem in that they built way too many steel mills on account of they are so smart by having a directed economy. We know that they have to do something with all of that steel. We know that if our Canadian friends have been helping China out with that problem, that the proper thing to do is just overlook it. That’s what Obama did.
It’s also why Obamism lost Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. So if we are going to get rid of Trump, he is going to have to help us along here!
Here in America, if we are producing too much steel, we stupidly shut down the factories, but in China, they are smart, they find ways to abuse trade agreements with willing partners like Canada and Mexico to sell it, even if they have to sell it wicked cheap.
I predict KJU will abdicate and seek asylum at the 12 June conference. Maybe for a few close family members as well. But he will not return to North Korea from Singapore.
Another possibility is that he is killed before the conference, either by the Chinese or by his own people.
predict KJU will abdicate and seek asylum at the 12 June conference. Maybe for a few close family members as well.
Don't forget his barber.
Blogger Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
Michael K said...
What the fuck do you think has been going on ?
A lot of fucking around with their puppet.
So, if their "puppet" signs a peace treaty and agrees to give up nukes, how do you plan to spin that ?
The left is facing an existential crisis. All the winning.
GDP growth 4.8% Holy Shit ! Obama did say he was leaving the economy ready for Trump. They call that"low hanging fruit" in my world.
Biggest Loser Narrative This Week: Nancy Pelosi's and the democrats "Fun-employment"!! Not Unemployment, but "Fun-employment" after you've lost your job.
LOL
You remember that don't you?
The dems/left/libs/LLR's all spinning furiously to paint obama's poor employment numbers as being a swell opportunity for everyone to pursue their real dreams!!
Oh, what a wonderful thing that was, "fun-employment"
I'll bet LLR Chuck swooned when he heard that one.
TestTube: "Another possibility is that he is killed before the conference, either by the Chinese or by his own people"
Then KJU should be allowed to raid the minibar beforehand.
Michael K said...
So, if their "puppet" signs a peace treaty and agrees to give up nukes, how do you plan to spin that ?
When the puppet actually gives up the nukes and allows regular inspections I will say job well done.
ARM: "When the puppet actually gives up the nukes and allows regular inspections I will say job well done."
LOL
Just like a good jobs report would cause Nancy Pelosi to say so...............
Too, too funny.
The dems are 100% full on hate and impeachment, and literally nothing else.
Nothing else.
Well, I shouldn't say nothing else.
The dems appear quite fond of MS13, terrorists (the "pardonable" ones certainly), and whacking small human beings growing in wombs who totally lack any of that divine spark the lefties are going on about these days....
The commercials for November are literally writing themselves....
There are multiple possibilities, ARM. The most likely one is that this Washington Post report is complete balderdash. Amazing that so many are buying it. Did everybody just wake up from a coma?
He wants to be "comped" Trump understands.
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
Michael K said...
What the fuck do you think has been going on ?
A lot of fucking around with their puppet.
Poor ARM is just mad that a globalist stooge like BushClintonBushObama isn't in the white house ready to ship a few pallets of cash and some heating oil to the Norks like all the "smart" people would have done.
The leftist globalists are just another tribe.
That lost.
ARM is just bargaining with himself.
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
When the puppet actually gives up the nukes and allows regular inspections I will say job well done.
No you wont.
You are incapable of it.
It would destroy your entire world view.
You would have to admit your side is just a bunch of greedy grifters that pat each other on the back, steal other peoples money, and can't do anything without sucking off the economy Americans built.
Is it likely that China wants Lil" Kim to give up his rockets and atomic weapons and reintegrate with South Korea?
Lil' Kim messed up his nuclear testing which created an unstable, radioactive mountain near China. And North Korea, China's starving, parasite-ridden slave-labor camp-filled client-state isn't exactly an ad which will entice other Asian states to join China in some kind of "Silk Road co-prosperity sphere." So I think the Chinese have decided that North Korea will reform. They've, maybe, left it to Lil' Kim to get the best deal he can. I'm sure they'd like the US to pay to rebuild North Korea and Kim to keep his nuclear arsenal and to have parity with the leader of South Korea on all legislation. But do they really think that North Korea can liberalize and keep its "citizens" in the North? Or do they just think that, come what may, North Korea must liberalize? I mean, when they were telling Rocket Man to go south and deal, why didn't they give him the money for his hotel? if they wanted him, leader of North Korea, their client state since 1952, to look good. Can you imagine DeGaulle sending his hotel bill to NATO?
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Makes more sense than ARM.
For a lot of our betters, a nuclear-armed North Korea is a minor nuisance, but a successful Trump is an existential threat.
Can you imagine DeGaulle sending his hotel bill to NATO?
Yup. I don’t think they ever repaid their Marshall loans and DeGaulle was the guy who stopped payment and I think chinzed on France’s NATO portion or kind of pulled them out.
@ARM, Achilles is right, you know. You will cheerfully break all ten of your fingers with a hammer before you'd ever type something along the lines of a "well done" for Trump. That's why I discount your opinions; I know what you'll write before you write it.
So I think the Chinese have decided that North Korea will reform. They've, maybe, left it to Lil' Kim to get the best deal he can
I think that's a good point.
The Chinese have bigger fish to fry. It might have been amusing to have Condi Rice and Bill Clinton currying favor but the new sheriff in town is not impressed.
The dems/left/libs/LLR's all spinning furiously to paint obama's poor employment numbers as being a swell opportunity for everyone to pursue their real dreams!!
Don’t forget Obamacare was supposed to help to, secure in the knowledge you can pursue your dreams and don’t have to worry about insurance.
Achilles said...
You would have to admit your side is just a bunch of greedy grifters that pat each other on the back, steal other peoples money, and can't do anything without sucking off the economy Americans built.
It's almost as if you don't understand which parts of American society are still competitive in our global economy.
ARM: "It's almost as if you don't understand which parts of American society are still competitive in our global economy"
Your part of the American society spent 30 years giving away the other parts of the economy to your global pals.
Trump is rolling that back and bit....and hear how the Europeans and Chinese squeal.....
Next time, don't use international trade agreements to screw over your countrymen just because you think you belong to a higher global caste.
If Kim and associates are smart they will play the political divisions in the US for all they are worth. It's hard not to notice half of the country is rooting for President Trump's if not outright failure, then unwillingness to offer support.
Drago said...
Your part of the American society spent 30 years giving away the other parts of the economy to your global pals.
All the big industrialists 30 years ago were Republicans and you are right they did totally screw their people.
What's interesting is that the people who have created serious wealth in the last 30 years are generally on the left. They aren't all my favorite people in the world but hard to deny that they have created good jobs and a lot of money for Americans.
ARM, you are using the term 'industrialists' rather disingenuously. The news and entertainment industry have been in leftist hands since I can remember.
And they still create lots of good American jobs. It is the actual industrialists, the people who championed Reagan, who screwed American workers.
When the puppet actually gives up the nukes and allows regular inspections I will say job well done.
Why would he do that? Trump has given him everything he wants.
sakredkow said...
Why would he do that? Trump has given him everything he wants.
That's my view, but some here see things differently.
"Trump has given him everything he wants."
All Kim wanted was $100,000 and some TV time? Who knew.
The cunt blogger pays for clicks with diminished integrity, time after time.
Don't take Cyndi Lauperz One Wierd Trick (with the Meth) as proof.
I command you: Do n't take Cyndi Lauper Meth for truth.
Fucking cuntshit
Boy pacwest, you seem to forget. No other sitting President would give the North Korean totalitarian the legitimacy of a face-to-face meeting. Why not? Because he refused preconditions.
Ah, but Trump, so desperate for a big win that will finally give HIM legitimacy, gives it away to Kim Jong Un. And no preconditions, huh.
I remember how righties got their panties all in a bunch when Obama said he would meet the commies without preconditions. Ha ha ha ha! Now they just drool over themselves as they sell out their integrity and their principles. What a joke. How sad for our poor country.
”Trump has given him everything he wants."
What has Trump given him? I can’t think of anything.
Look you little shit-boy turdrats, you can continue to want and impress upon others they ought want too.
But I will continue to think of myself as more Grattitude-is-why as opposed to your needful dialect consisting of little beyond "we will vote until we win" Gold finds.
Why oughn't my maybe families needs supersede yours likewise, bigot?
”No other sitting President would give the North Korean totalitarian the legitimacy of a face-to-face meeting.”
You mean those guys who put us in our current predicament?
Only the dirty hoes consider only a single "lesser" partner when all informed know better than to speak so stupidly: unless silliyly bought and paid for. Then, merely understandable.
Not exempted nor forgiven save Christ.
You mean those guys who put us in our current predicament?
Only now the mass murderer has the ICBMs. And Trump ... sings his praises and invites him to the White House. Big improvement.
”Only now the mass murderer has the ICBMs.”
Exactly. I’m glad you understand the predicament that those other guys put us in.
"Trump is really giving away the store here."
"Isn't it terrible what those other presidents did?"
Thanks for nothing.
Seems like yesterday the concern was over Trump (Hitler!) antagonizing Butterball into nuclear war..
By the way, has anyone considered S. Korea's perspective?
walter: "By the way, has anyone considered S. Korea's perspective?"
also walter: "America first!"
”I remember how righties got their panties all in a bunch when Obama said he would meet the commies without preconditions.”
I’m trying to understand how this is different than what you’re saying now.
Not incompatible, sakredkow. Perhaps in your mind..
But a nice dodge.
Everyone sees what's going on here, except those who sold out whatever integrity the right had.
"Trump first.
America second."
Yeah. It’s not different. You think the “righties” were idiots, and then you adopt their position.
You bet. No negotiations until he agrees to give up his nukes.
But we have a new president.
"Everyone sees what's going on here"
Another not content to speak for themselves.
Are you related to Char Char Binks?
I know who I'm speaking for.
”No negotiations until he agrees to give up his nukes.”
Wow. That’s master class negotiating. Give me what I want up front. Then I’ll negotiate with you.
Trump has repeatedly pointed out possibility of pulling out of this.
You just have a yuuuge axe to grind.
Just amazing, the liberal comments there and here. Trump is (maybe) going to pull off the most incredible foreign policy coup of our lifetimes, and people are right there sneering to the end.
Maybe that's the right play in game theory, though, because if Trump does succeed their side is buried, no matter what they said. They may as well go all in.
When are you going to wake up?
When are you going to wake up?
When are you going to get over the fact that Hillary lost and will never be president?
It is the actual industrialists, the people who championed Reagan, who screwed American workers.
Who wants jobs when welfare is available?
Got it. Thanks.
When are you going to get over the fact that Hillary lost and will never be president?
You're still sleeping. And I don't give a fuck about Hillary.
”When are you going to wake up?”
When it’s over.
These canned answers you guys have for why you are supporting Trump are clearly designed to keep you from facing reality. Because nobody else buys it.
”When are you going to wake up?”
"When it’s over."
I believe this.
Yeah, you already know how it will turn out.
With your advanced negotiating skills, you must be a rich man.
Well they wrong about Reagan, Clinton brought in strobe Talbot who was perhaps the most ignorAnt sans Robert scheer Jonathan Schell or Helen Caldecott, Kerry Panetta biden were enamored off the nuclear freeze, Obama was even more stoned on the subject hence the Iran deal.
@sakredkow:
What would it take to get you to say 'Trump is a good president"?
Is there literally anything he can do to get you to change your mind?
I will admit about the only thing that would get me to change my mind about Hillary would be a full honest confession and sincere apology.
I said this before, but it's true....in twenty years the Left will be praising Trump and talking about how much better he was than whoever the current Republican candidate is.
sakredkow said...
These canned answers you guys have for why you are supporting Trump are clearly designed to keep you from facing reality. Because nobody else buys it.
It was so much easier just to ship money to our enemies.
This is just another globalist that is realizing his time is done.
Have fun with your open borders, support for Hamas Iran and MS-13, repeal the second amendment platform during the midterms.
We will be running on actual working class wage growth and the return of manufacturing jobs.
Why aren't you all talking about a blue wave anymore?
SakredKow: "And I don't give a fuck about Hillary."
LOL
Nobody is buying that canned answer...
Charlie Eklund said...
Singapore. You can’t beat it with a stick.
6/2/18, 12:23 PM
Hey, it's Phil Harris! I was just listening to his Chuck Schaden interview the other night.
Do we have a new troll?
Achilles said...
It would destroy your entire world view.
Big Mike said...
You will cheerfully break all ten of your fingers with a hammer before you'd ever type something along the lines of a "well done" for Trump.
This is why you guys are always wrong about everything, because you are so rigid and formulaic in your thinking you think everyone else thinks in the same limited way that you do.
If Kim came out tomorrow and said he was going to give up all his nukes and actually did so how would this affect my world view, much less destroy it? I am the first to acknowledge that I don't fully understand Kim's motivations. He and his regime have been very consistent in their behavior in the past but these kinds of dictatorships are always fragile and when they break they tend to break in unpredictable ways. That is part of my world view. This being said, the odds of this happening do not appear very high at the moment, but not zero either.
Michael K said...
Do we have a new troll?
No. You are the same old useless troll you have always been.
ARM who liks to call people who disagree with him vulgar names said this without a hint of irony.
"This is why you guys are always wrong about everything, because you are so rigid and formulaic in your thinking you think everyone else thinks in the same limited way that you do."
Said the guy without an original argument. Ever.
Can't even bo originally vulgar.
Rusty, this last post of yours doesn't make a lot of sense. Maybe you should drink some coffee before posting this early in the morning.
You should take your own advice.
"but Trump, so desperate for a big win that will finally give HIM legitimacy, gives it away to Kim Jong Un."
'Legitimacy' and $7.50 will get you a cup of coffee. I don't understand how 'face to face' is considered a win for Kim. Is Trump going to give him an autographed picture or something?
"And no preconditions, huh."
Besides total denuclearzation, or continuing military and economic pressure you mean?
ARM: "This is why you guys are always wrong about everything,..."
Its like the last 10 years never happened at all.....LOL
Not to mention ARM thinks it was industrialusts who negotiated all US Trade deals which locked in foreign nations tariff and trade imbalance advantages along with national policies designed to crush US domestic business in key industries.
Just another day in lefty History Began This Morning-Ville.
"He and his regime have been very consistent in their behavior in the past but these kinds of dictatorships are always fragile and when they break they tend to break in unpredictable ways."
And so ARM gets his 'Trump deserves no credit' argument ready. Just in case. You are nothing if not predictable ARM.
Next up for ARM: Why the capitalists are at fault for Venezuelan leftist economic failures...and how next time the commies are sure to "get it right"....
LOL
Blogger Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
Michael K said...
Do we have a new troll?
No. You are the same old useless troll you have always been.
Interesting. ARM starts the day angry and insulting. I wonder what is going on in his world that is upsetting the poor dear ?
The news has been pretty good for my side.
The ridiculous subsidies for "Green Energy" seem to be on the down escalator. Coal and nuclear are about to resume their essential role as base power sources.
The Nork negotiations are promising.
The "Blue Wave" seems to be leaking out of the porta potty.
The fall election sounds more promising every week.
What could be making ARM so nasty ?
because you are so rigid and formulaic in your thinking you think everyone else thinks in the same limited way that you do.
I didn't realize that Nancy Pelosi had been posting comments here.
pacwest said...
Is Trump going to give him an autographed picture or something?
Hey! How about Trump giving Jongy a tee shirt with Trump's picture on it and the word WINNING!
How cool would that be?
He's very near beer:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/06/disneyabc_should_merge_with_starbucks_and_the_nfl.html
The late Richard pipes, understood the Soviet union in ways talbott couldn't even begin to contemplate just as with John Julius Norwich who corrected much of the category error of Edward gibbon
”'Legitimacy' and $7.50 will get you a cup of coffee. I don't understand how 'face to face' is considered a win for Kim.”
It’s a ridiculous argument. The only reason I can think of that Kim would give us everything we want before we even meet is if he was under attack today. I guess this is what ARM et al. think is the best course.
I hope KJU has time to work in some golf, rock climbing and bungee jumping.
Perhaps obama could be invited back to show KJU how to miss 20+ basketball shots
in a row (including layups) and/or how to throw a baseball like a 4 year old girl..
Has anyone given KJU a CD of LLR Chucks favorite obama "magnificent" speeches yet?
I infer that sakredkow and ARM are upset that poor black people now have jobs. Eight years of Barack Obama could not improve their employment prospects but 16 months of Donald Trump could and has.
Hey! How about Trump giving Jongy a tee shirt with Trump's picture on it and the word WINNING!
I want to see both of them leave the talks together wearing MAGA hats.
SakredKow: "And I don't give a fuck about Hillary."
LOL
Nobody is buying that canned answer...
To me that just means your judgement is wrong from top to bottom.
"He and his regime have been very consistent in their behavior in the past but these kinds of dictatorships are always fragile and when they break they tend to break in unpredictable ways."
30ish years down the road Pudge is going to be interfering in American elections?
Known knowns known unknowns or unknown unknowns
Start listing the possibilities so it won’t be unpredictable, Arm.
These canned answers you guys have for why you are supporting Trump are clearly designed to keep you from facing reality
A leftist lecturing others about reality.
That's rich.
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