"It’s predatory, naff, insulting to the woman and the man. And ‘toyboy’ isn’t exactly complimentary to anyone, either. (A boy to be toyed with? No, thanks.) Instead, I’m going to campaign for older women who are dating younger men to henceforth be called WHIPs – Women who are Hot, Intelligent and in their Prime. And the men shall be called really bloody lucky."
From "Now I'm in my 50s, young men want to date me: Welcome to the world of WHIPS" (in The Telegraph).
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Because "sugar daddy" is complimentary to men. Poor women! We are so downtrodden.
He's Whipped is not exactly a compliment for a man, wrt to female companionship.
This is true. Women are great teachers, and an independent career woman with her own money is the best teacher a young man could ever have...until he graduates.
Pretty sure whips, like nooses, are racist.
And exactly what MM said. P*ssy Whipped
Sadomasochism has much better optics.
Cougar is a variety of pussy.
Safer for a college-attending young man to "learn" from an older woman than boinking a female classmate who might decide to accuse him of rape a couple years later.
Bingo wings. Heh.
It sounds like a slight variation on Sailer’s Law of Female Journalism: The most heartfelt articles by female journalists tend to be demands that social values be overturned in order that, Come the Revolution, the journalist herself will be considered hotter-looking.
I'd be happy if female high school and middle school teachers would stop fucking their students.
There are great bargains to be found at a bakery's day-old-bread section.
You just need to consume the item quickly before it goes stale.
I am Laslo.
I don't think "Susan is WHIPping some black guy" is going to go down well. Besides, you don't get to make up your own moniker. It's a social phenomenon, not a branding exercise.
Can you imagine a man saying, "I don't like the term Sugar Daddy. I'm going to call myself a Superior Teacher for Under-thirty Damsels. STUD for short."
Women would laugh and laugh, and rightly so.
I'd be happy if female high school and middle school teachers would stop fucking their students.
Not a majority guy's point of view.
At the end you see that what she is really looking for is a man to shoulder her baggage.
The bad side of this trend: I was recently on vacation with my young-20's son in LA, and people kept assuming (or pretending to assume) that we were a couple. I'm sure they thought they were being flattering to me (the old "you couldn't possibly be old enough to have a son his age!), but it was really uncomfortable for him.
18-to-late-twenties: Date Bad Boys who don't stick around.
Late-twenties-to-late-thirties: have affairs with Married Men who never leave their wives.
Late-thirties-to-fifty: Dry period.
Fifty-to-fifty-one: Amazing Year with Younger Man!
Fifty-two plus: Aunt.
I am Laslo.
Strange, it seemed when I was growing up the popular line against older men dating younger women was that they were insecure, refused to grow up, had some problem with "real" women, etc. Not that women are getting in on the action, it's a marvelous thing, and their younger partners are "bloody lucky." But then again, how often do younger men dating older women get called gold-diggers?
Oh sure. Bold and courageous for older women to date younger men. Disgusting and perverted for older men to date younger women. Or did I miss the Telegraph article in which a older man gushes about young women?
Late-thirties-to-fifty
The Golden Age of women.
Pilates is a game changer.
Will this horrible trend of look-at-me-journalism ever die?
Don't think of yourself as a cougar, think of yourself as a MILF.
The guys in college who dated hotter older women said it was because they are grateful and uninhibited.
There are precursors for this. I'm thinking of Kipling's humorous poem, "My Rival," written when he was still in India (before 1886), in which a girl in her teens resents the older woman that all the young men are flocking around, ignoring her:
For sixty takes to seventeen,
Nineteen to forty-nine.
(I've seen it suggested that this is about the relationship between Kipling's sister and mother, but I'm not sure how well supported that is. Not everything an author writes comes from personal experience!)
rehajm said...
The guys in college who dated hotter older women said it was because they are grateful and uninhibited.
8/21/17, 8:43 AM
Didn't Ben Franklin say the same thing?
Cougar = Predatory
Fits.
John Henry
And the men shall be called really bloody lucky.
Imagine if the word "men" was replaced by "women" & the article was written by a man. Would the article have seen the light of day?
"Those 20 year old chicks -- they're lucky to have my 55 years of experience bearing down on their nubile young forms".
The letters of outrage to the editor would write themselves.
Didn't Ben Franklin say the same thing?
I bet he did. I do recall something about compunction and also they can't get knocked up.
"Gigolo" is still a perfectly good word.
Fifty Shades of Grey-Haired.
I am Laslo.
"Cougar" was thought to be edgy, hip, dangerous when it came into vogue. These women are hard on their brand, need to re-brand every 10 years or so.
Don't know if this has been posted before but it is quite fun:
older ladies
How about 'catamount' or 'mountain screamer'?
Dutch saying "You learn to ride on an older bicycle".
A good conscience lies where the goalie won't be pulled.
-probably Ben Franklin
When I see a sex robot called hot older woman - HOWbot? - and how it sells then I'll have some data points on how real this trend is.
I understand that in the more woke geriatric homes sex is required, right there on the check list with Vitamin B. And robots are stepping up to the call like men. Sort of. Faceless, fortunately or ?unfortunately? But are they "basic boytoy" or more exotic - "California Dreaming Beach Boy Man Bot".
Appropriately, I'm filling in the hours while I wait for the clouded-over eclipse in my region with these speculations about our cultural eclipse which I do get to see.
WHIP walks and hits per inning pitched. Acronym taken
Exiled and Rehajm beat me to it, but still, Franklin knew all about the WHIPs.
NB - To be even more on-topic, that Franklin letter has played a minor role in the development of American speech law.
Oh, yeah, young guys like to date typical 50-somethings like Madonna, Mariah Carey, and Demi Moore. All the gals at the bridge club look like that, and they're picking up young studs all the time.
Why does this remind me of an article I saw a couple of years ago about older women traveling to countries such as Morocco or in South America because the young guys there appreciated older women? Poor young guys.
Whoops, put on wrong thread before.
Twist on an old theme...
Mary Ann, Ginger or... Mrs. Howell?
We discussed good sentences. Ross MacDonald had a god one:
"As a man get older then, if he knows what's good for him, so do the women he finds attractive."
Apparently goose/gander does not apply.
As an alumni of two Mountain Lion mascot schools: WSU Cougars and UVM Catamounts (both are the same animal). I take offense that such a noble creature should be seen as offensive.
Guys like sex without consequences. We are discussing a hot, experienced woman who is highly unlikely to get pregnant and is highly unlikely to require or even want a long-term commitment plus may shower the man with gifts. It's a very shallow relationship.
Has anyone told the MLB that WHIP has a double meaning?
She's past the age to get pregnant. She's easy. And toward the end of the night, after having struck out with all the younger women, she's sitting there ready and waiting. And after 5 or 6 beers, doesn't look that bad.
You don't get to pick your own nickname.
I'd call her old hat
So are the younger girls Nae Nae?
Blogger Known Unknown said...
"So are the younger girls Nae Nae?"
Need to give this to my partner. That is my nickname for her.
""It may be a trend, but I can’t be the only person to find the term ‘cougar’ repulsive.""
I also want to say this sentence bothers me.
"It may be a trend..." should be followed up by the opinion of more than just one person.
WHIP walks and hits per inning pitched.
As a baseball stats geek, that's exactly what I think when I see WHIP (although I prefer WHIP9, or W+H per 9 innings).
WHIP is also a radio station in North Carolina.
Sailer's Law of Female Journalism: The most heartfelt articles by female journalists tend to be demands that social values be overturned in order that, Come the Revolution, the journalist herself will be considered hotter-looking
"I'd be happy if female high school and middle school teachers would stop fucking their students."
One more time, a tip of my cap to my 7th grade science teacher, the glorious Miss James. Auburn hair, green eyes, legs a mi ....... slap ... slap. Looked like Lola Albright.
I was at a bar earlier this Summer and ran into a woman I had briefly dated. I never asked her age, but assume she was in her early thirties -- a decade-ish my junior. Her date was some young buck who couldn't have been out of high school for more than a few years and was probably drinking on a fake ID. We exchanged great big grins. Good for her!
Well, whatever floats your boat, I guess.
They don't swell, they don't tell, and they're grateful as hell.
They don't want to date you, lady. They want to fuck you, and probably not all that often. The "date" is the price of admission.
Doug said...
They don't swell, they don't tell, and they're grateful as hell.
8/21/17, 5:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFMrZ9fP7xA
Old methods for minority whips gathering new votes.
Everything she says applies to older men/ younger women as well.
She isn't bad looking; most men would do her. May be the girls their age are dating moneyed older men.
The list of famous women annoys me. They are famous and rich. No duh, thy can get younger guys.
Gahrie said...
I'd be happy if female high school and middle school teachers would stop fucking their students.
The French have been asking this of late with increasing frequency.
I married a "cougar." She was 36 and I was 26. Both of us were experienced. We just celebrated our 40th anniversary, and I still think that she is pretty cool.
Oh, we have a few mountain lion/cougar pieces of art around the house, but then we live in the Colorado mountains.
Humblebrag.
Don't take it so personally, lady.
Young guys will stick their dick in just about anything.
If you're offering, they're accepting.
Single bagger, double bagger, old bagger.
Unlikely to start in with the "So, where's this thing going?"
But yeah..never heard of the male equivalent for Cougar or MILF.
FILF?
Songs to woo the fiftysomething? (When you are 36) I dont know. Since I am not 36.
I would have used Faces, when I was 36, but alas my Time has Past. The caravan of cougars have moved on. I dont imagine ramblin bar room boozer ballads gets even a nod or a wink.
Avoid singing along with - or even playing - The Last Time by the Stones.
Maggie May
Maybe I'm crazy but all I'm seeing is an old sl*t.
Dating younger people doesn't make sense to me. It would be like growing up all over again.
Yeah, I'm sure this is going to happen...
So I guess all women must now be assumed to be intelligent. Because feminism?
It smacks of "Sex and the City" shallowness, but the reality is that older single women are less valuable and thus are the only options available to unaccomplished young fuckbois. And men will take you for a few minutes in the parking lot even when they won't value you a penny higher.
For the rare people who are actually a pleasure to be a lifelong roommate with, there are better options all around. Most of us, not so much.
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