Colombian voters threw out the peace deal just days after the government had invited world leaders to a celebratory signing ceremony, leaving its fate — along with Mr. Santos’s legacy — in limbo.He convinced the Norwegians. He just didn't convince his own people.
Despite the setback, the Norwegian Nobel Committee recognized Mr. Santos “for his resolute efforts to bring the country’s more than 50-year-long civil war to an end.”
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"The president of Colombia was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for pursuing a deal to end 52 years of conflict with a leftist rebel group..."
"... the longest-running war in the Americas, just five days after Colombians rejected the agreement in a shocking referendum result...."
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Can we have a vote and throw out the Iran deal? Wait. A vote for Trump will do that.
The Nobel Brand is dead.
Maybe it should be an App.
I am The Replacement Laslo.
As usual with the Nobel Committee, they gave the prize to the wrong person. It should have gone to former Colombian President Uribe. It was his work in crushing the narco-terrorist group FARC that has brought peace to Colombia. The so-called 'peace' agreement would have allowed a terrorist group into the government without having to go through the messy process of actually being elected. This is not what democracy looks like.
I guess the Nobel Prize is now a participation medal.
Obama got one for even less. The prize is now a bad joke.
You get a Nobel! You get a Nobel! Ev! Ry! Body! Gets! A! No! BEEEEEEELLLLL!!!!!
At New York street corners there are vendors that sell Nobell prizes, cheap.
Goes well with the Rolexx.
I am The Replacement Laslo.
I think a place on the Nobel Peace Price committee is kind of a consolation award to eminent politicians they don't want interfering with the government.
The next award will be to Al Franken for his Stuart Smalley character on SNL, because they want everyone to feel, "I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggone it, people like me."
Next, the award will be presented on the Academy Awards show.
The President of Columbia was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize
Mattress Girl did her part too.
How many drone strikes has the President of Columbia even authorized? How many middle eastern nations has he helped to destabilize?
Seems like they're getting awfully lax with the standards for the Peace Prize these days. Sad.
A for effort!
We should have a vote to abolish the Nobel Peace Prize.
This is the sad problem with liberals: intentions count more than actions.
This is the sad problem with liberals: intentions count more than actions.
And yet equal outcomes count more than equal opportunities.
The peace prize is joke. It should be labelled "the Nobel Prize for Liberals We Like".
The next winner will be Hillary with the announcement: "The winner is Hillary Clinton, for just being you."
Norwegians are easy to convince, as are American women. Just make nice (& empty) speeches.
Santos, current President of Colombia, was Uribe's minister of defense for three years, and he has been President himself for the last six years, so he deserves at least some credit for the victory.
Santos and Obama--a matched set of doofus Nobel Prize winners.
IOW, Santos may not deserve a "Peace Prize", but he is not an unworthy fellow all things considered. If he were running the country next door no doubt things would be going much better there.
They're getting better. At least there was a deal on the table this time. President Obama got his prize entirely on spec.
President Obama got his prize entirely on spec.
lol...
Comanche Voter said...Comanche Voter said...Santos and Obama--a matched set of doofus Nobel Prize winners.
That's unfair to Santos, Comanche. The Nobel committee's decision to award newly-elected President Obama a Peace prize was monumentally stupid--not to mention cynical, petty, and harmful to the reputation of the committee (tarnishing past & future Peace awards); of that there can be no doubt. Santos is politically unpopular at home and although he helped broker both a ceasefire (which is still holding) and the popularly-rejected peace deal the vote itself was very close and there's still hope that most of the progress he made can be salvaged. There's no shame in getting that close but not quite crossing the finish line yet.
There is, or ought to be, shame in accepting international accolades for being "not Bush" and accepting a "peace" prize that was in fact a thinly-veiled insult to the prior President of the US. The Left in this nation cheered, of course, because it's fun to take the side of the international Left against a Republican. What could be more patriotic?
Well, the Norwegians gave a Nobel Peace Prize to someone who personally selects drone targets -- i.e., people to be killed by drone-borne missiles -- so perhaps they are possessed of a national insanity. Personally, I blame the lutefisk.
Lyle Smith,
"We should have a vote to abolish the Nobel Peace Prize."
Short of that, let me suggest this reform: That they be awarded in the same way they are in the sciences.
Despite Nobel's original vision that they be awarded for the most important work done in the prior year, in Chemistry they tend to go to discoveries made at least 7 or so, and often 20, years earlier: Discoveries that everyone knew could be huge, then they achieved such importance to the field that for the last few years, everyone's looked at their discoverers and said, Yeah - I don't know when but there IS going to be a Nobel Prize for that. You don't get it for potential - for starting down the road of a problem that could change your field.
I find myself wishing the committee would award the Peace Prize not for "extraordinary efforts" like Being Barack Obama; not for signing a treaty like the Oslo Accords, where people shake and sign but may or may not follow through; but for actually securing a peace that everyone looks back on, 10 or 20 years later, and says: Wow. They really changed the world with that one.
I hope the Committee members who voted for this decision are embarrassed. The time to award a prize should have been about 5-10 years from now, after the agreement was ratified, implemented, and successful.
First Obama, now this. They are clowns.
Santos is politically unpopular at home and although he helped broker both a ceasefire (which is still holding) and the popularly-rejected peace deal the vote itself was very close and there's still hope that most of the progress he made can be salvaged. There's no shame in getting that close but not quite crossing the finish line yet.
No. 1000 times no.
If it had passed by the same margin it failed by, it would not have been a "good win" by Santos. There's a reason why it takes a 2/3 vote in the US Senate to pass a treaty. It should be something with major buy in, not a sliver over 50% of buy in.
The leaders of a Communist narco-terrorist group do not deserve amnesty, let alone seats in the House and Senate. Esp. when the only reason they're negotiating is because they've clearly lost on the battlefield.
Columbia's message to the FARC leadership should have been: your followers can have amnesty. The leaders get one free trip to the border, and trial followed by summary execution if you ever come back.
The FARC rebels have been living in the jungle for over fifty years. The Soviet Union collapsed, and neighboring Venezuela is in a state of chaos. Why haven't they figured out this Commie rebel thing isn't working out? Maybe it's better for all concerned that people this stupid and stubborn continue to live in the jungle as opposed to the legislative chamber.
protestmanager said...If it had passed by the same margin it failed by, it would not have been a "good win" by Santos. There's a reason why it takes a 2/3 vote in the US Senate to pass a treaty. It should be something with major buy in, not a sliver over 50% of buy in.
I wasn't addressing the agreement itself, protestmanager. If I was voting on it I think it'd be a tough call--from what I've read there were some potential penalties for people who were insufficiently forthcoming in front of the reconciliation courts/bodies, but it does seem like a lot of very bad dudes might get off pretty lightly. None of that says much about the Nobel committee's decision, though--even getting peace on what you and I consider bad terms is still a very positive thing from the Nobel perspective, as it's still getting peace.
"HoodlumDoodlum"
I was referring to the "there's no shame" part. He should feel shamed for only getting to 50%. That little buy-in on an end to the war is a major statement by the people of Columbia against the treaty, IMAO.
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