Althouse: Trump talks about the profiling that Israel does and CNN puts "racial" before "profiling"...

२० सप्टेंबर, २०१६

Trump talks about the profiling that Israel does and CNN puts "racial" before "profiling"...

... which is not what Trump said and not what Israel does.

Via my son John at Facebook, where there's a conversation going.

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Wince म्हणाले...: Trump: the media's most quotable person, without the need for, um, actual quotes.; २०/९/१६, १०:५७ AM
Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...: The lying liberal Clinton News Network! Who da thought! Gee after they removed inconvenient "bombing" from Hillary's mouth this was predictable. It will happen again. And people notice, they see the dishonest slanted reporting and it just builds up ill will towards the corporations and actors involved.; २०/९/१६, १०:५८ AM
mccullough म्हणाले...: Arabs are also considered white by the government, so it would be ethnic or religious profiling not racial profiling. So CNN needs to be more accurate within its dishonesty; २०/९/१६, ११:०७ AM
Darrell म्हणाले...: CNN is a shitstain on the dial.; २०/९/१६, ११:०९ AM
damikesc म्हणाले...: The press has gone from misrepresenting what he said to fabricating what he said.; २०/९/१६, ११:१७ AM
n.n म्हणाले...: ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.; २०/९/१६, ११:२१ AM
Achilles म्हणाले...: This is Trump's fault. He is clearly a terrible candidate. Any other republican would be treated fairly by the media and be crushing Hillary right now. So I am never voting for Trump. Clinton is a criminal but she keeps the government cheese flowing my way. I am a real conservative and Trump is really a liberal.

/s because #nevertrumpers are stupid and dishonest and wouldn't get it.; २०/९/१६, ११:२४ AM
eric म्हणाले...: The media has no idea how it's hurting itself.

The Clinton camp and #nevertrump have yet to release the damaging stuff on Trump. I'm sure it'll be sealed divorce records, bad business decisions, spending charitable money on himself rather than charity, and saying something racist.

But who will believe any of this in the last week's of the election when they've proven over the last few months they are willing to lie so brazenly?; २०/९/१६, ११:२९ AM
n.n म्हणाले...: Unlike the [class] diversitists in America, Israel practices comprehensive profiling.

The [class] diversitists are displacing their bigotry. Their ideology judges people not by the "content of their character" (e.g. principles), but by the "color of their skin".; २०/९/१६, ११:३४ AM
Eric the Fruit Bat म्हणाले...: Looks like CNN needs to fine tune its auto-correct.; २०/९/१६, ११:३९ AM
Gahrie म्हणाले...: CNN smearing Trump and Israel with a blatant lie?

This is my shocked face.; २०/९/१६, ११:४४ AM
Quaestor म्हणाले...: Misreadings? Dr. Althouse, you are too kind I suppose to create and use a damned lie tag?; २०/९/१६, ११:४६ AM
rhhardin म्हणाले...: Racial profiling also works, if there's a significant difference in other characteristics of the race marker.

Any kind of profiling works.

Everything you learn is profiling.; २०/९/१६, ११:४८ AM
rhhardin म्हणाले...: Profiling just fills in missing information in the particular case with the highest probability given what you know already.; २०/९/१६, ११:५० AM
rhhardin म्हणाले...: The left's problem with profiling is the stuff you're not supposed to mention when you notice it, that profiling uses in order to be useful.; २०/९/१६, ११:५१ AM
eric म्हणाले...: CNN is now defending this decision by saying it's what he meant.

But, if that's their point, why did they put quotes around it as if he had actually said it?; २०/९/१६, ११:५२ AM
cubanbob म्हणाले...: Trump should state he will not accept CNN as moderator for the debate.; २०/९/१६, १२:०० PM
Dust Bunny Queen म्हणाले...: People profile other people every single day. You are in an elevator, you notice things about the other person, how they act, how they dress, how they smell, what clothing they are wearing, what they look like in general and specifics about that person such as are the smiling, looking at you, avoiding eye contact....on and on..... You do it in an instant. It is a survival skill to decide whether that person is a threat or someone who is just passively standing along side you or perhaps someone you might speak to and be cordial.

At a party, you profile the entire crowd and pick out people or groups you can maybe find commonality with.

Walking down the street. At the mall. Standing in line in the grocery store.

Profiling is a good thing!; २०/९/१६, १२:०१ PM
Jaq म्हणाले...: Wapo did this kind of stuff to Sarah Palin, nobody gave a shit. CNN telscreens are installed in every airport, blasting their propaganda at helpless and captive passers by.; २०/९/१६, १२:०५ PM
Jaq म्हणाले...: If Rosemary Woods had gone onto Reddit to ask how to delete 18 1/2 minutes of audio tape, and people found out, do you think it would have made CNN? And here, Clinton's server guy went on Reddit, the day after her emails were subpoenaed, and asks for ways to delete them, THE DAY AFTER THE SUBPOENA. Then when the story comes out, he starts deleting his Reddit stuff like mad, after his immunity deal, where he STILL took the fifth! If we were talking about Efram Zimbalist Jr's FBI, this would invalidate the immunity deal, continuing to destroy evidence, but we aren't we are talking about Comey's FBI. So CNN has exactly zero stories on it. Look for zero questions to be asked of her highness by anybody about it.; २०/९/१६, १२:१७ PM
Virgil Hilts म्हणाले...: The FBI gets a report that Aum Shinrikyo is planning a bomb attack inside the terminal of a U.S. airport in October. 97.5% of Aum Shinrikyo's members are Japanese. The TSA and FBI get together to plan a strategy and someone at the table suggests - we really need to focus on and take a closer look at the Japanese nationals flying into or out of U.S. airports during that month.
No sane person objects to this. Even crazy SJWs do not object to this.
But is the example really that different when you start looking at Wahhabism Islam-inspired terrorism (which currently seems to have a monopoly on terrorism in the west), and the fact that maybe 97.5% or so of perpetrators fall within a set of certain identifiable and profilable national origin and religious groups?; २०/९/१६, १२:१८ PM
Jaq म्हणाले...: I think the press deserves to get President Trump. I still might not vote for him, because I am pretty pissed at what the two parties have done, but that doesn't mean I won't like watching the press suffer if he wins.; २०/९/१६, १२:१९ PM
Jaq म्हणाले...: When Hillary help up the newspaper with the headline "Bush Knew!" What did she expect Bush to have done with the knowledge that Al Qaeda wanted to attack someplace, somehow, in the US? Round up every Arab and question them? What exactly?; २०/९/१६, १२:२० PM
Sam L. म्हणाले...: CNN: Completely Nutty News.; २०/९/१६, १२:२१ PM
Joe म्हणाले...: "People profile other people every single day."

Exactly. And it keeps us alive and healthy. The dirty, dark secret is that stereotypes work.

(If a woman doesn't associate getting a dick pick with "he's an asshole" it isn't going to work out well for her.); २०/९/१६, १२:२५ PM
Matt Sablan म्हणाले...: "CNN is now defending this decision by saying it's what he meant."

-- That's not how quotes work. Even as a public person, I'd say this counts as libel. They knowingly misrepresented his quote with the intent to alter the public opinion of people, and then when asked, confirmed their intent.

CNN should be rejected as a moderator, and Republicans should refuse to be interviewed, citing that they don't want CNN "deciding what they mean."; २०/९/१६, १२:२५ PM
Richard म्हणाले...: You don't seem to understand. Profiling is much worse that stopping a terrorist attack. After all someone’s feeling may be hurt.; २०/९/१६, १२:४६ PM
Michelle Dulak Thomson म्हणाले...: Right out of college, I got "profiled" by El Al. Why shouldn't I have been? I was a single young woman traveling to England alone on a one-way ticket, fresh out of UC/Berkeley fer Chrissakes, with a ton of luggage. So I got about 45 minutes of grilling from an El Al officer, and then was allowed to board.

IMO, this was entirely just and correct. They suspected me. I would've suspected me, given just that information.

El Al has never been the victim of a hijacking. That's because they profile.; २०/९/१६, १२:५१ PM
Michelle Dulak Thomson म्हणाले...: Matthew Sablan,

CNN doesn't get libel. Or else, libel does not apply to Trump. That's all there is to it.; २०/९/१६, १२:५३ PM
hombre म्हणाले...: CNN put "racial profiling" in quotes!!!

Just when I thought the mediaswine couldn't get any more swinelike.; २०/९/१६, १२:५७ PM
hombre म्हणाले...: I agree with M. Sabian (12:25). Trump should reject Anderson Cooper or any other CNN mediaswine as a debate moderator.

Remember Candy Crowley?! CNN is without ethics or shame.; २०/९/१६, १:०६ PM
Gk1 म्हणाले...: Trump should pull out of any CNN sponsored events, ban the "moderator" and make it clear he doesn't accept being libeled by CNN, period. That is the only way to make it stop.; २०/९/१६, १:१४ PM
Dust Bunny Queen म्हणाले...: Why do they need moderators asking questions anyway?

1. Just give each of them a list of 4 to 6 topics and a chance to speak to the topic ONE person at a time for a few minutes. 3 to 5 minutes should be more than enough. AND Damnnit STAY ON TOPIC.

2.Then the other person gets to also speak on that topic for the same amount of uninterrupted time.

3.THEN each person gets 2 to 3 minutes to rebut the other person's talking points.

And so on until each topic has been covered.

4. Then a final wrap up speech of 3 to 5 minutes.

The only purpose of the moderator would be to keep time and keep the person from being interrupted. Otherwise the moderator just sits there and keeps a gag on it.

We might actually learn something in this format.; २०/९/१६, १:१६ PM
Mary Beth म्हणाले...: CNN are the ones that thought "felons" = "blacks" so they know a thing or two about profiling.; २०/९/१६, १:३६ PM
YoungHegelian म्हणाले...: I heard NPR repeat the lie that Trump said "racial profiling" this morning on Morning Edition. Those miserable bastards in the media! They just grab a story from each other & pass it along, lies & all!; २०/९/१६, १:४३ PM
Yancey Ward म्हणाले...: Fake but accurate strikes again!

The media have lost pretty much all credibility at this point. Almost everything they do to take Trump down is backfiring badly.

As for Trump asking for different moderators- I think that is actually a mistake now- he should welcome any attempt by the moderators to treat him unfairly, which I expect they will do given the outcry on the Left over Lauer's ineffectiveness at doing the same damned thing.; २०/९/१६, १:५० PM
JAORE म्हणाले...: "I heard NPR repeat the lie that Trump said "racial profiling" this morning on Morning Edition. "

Of course they did. Must be true. It was on CNN. Then the next one can say, "It was on CNN and NPR". Then the next one....; २०/९/१६, १:५५ PM
Tommy Duncan म्हणाले...: The summer after 09/11/2001 my family traveled to Germany on vacation. Our return flight was out of Frankfurt. While we sat waiting to depart a stunning blonde female police officer was in the gate area. She would walk up to passengers and ask them questions. She only questioned people of Middle Eastern appearance. Two other police officers stood nearby carrying automatic weapons.

It made me feel much better about flying that day.; २०/९/१६, २:१४ PM
Richard म्हणाले...: Is racial profiling really so bad? Let's poll college basketball coaches.; २०/९/१६, २:३६ PM
damikesc म्हणाले...: -- That's not how quotes work. Even as a public person, I'd say this counts as libel. They knowingly misrepresented his quote with the intent to alter the public opinion of people, and then when asked, confirmed their intent.

While I disagree, vehemently, with Trump's desire to "open up" libel laws --- I cannot really blame him with shit like this.; २०/९/१६, २:४१ PM
Lewis Wetzel म्हणाले...: Blogger YoungHegelian said...
I heard NPR repeat the lie that Trump said "racial profiling" this morning on Morning Edition. Those miserable bastards in the media! They just grab a story from each other & pass it along, lies & all!

Last week NPR did a piece on Trump going on Doctor Oz and talking about his health. This was followed by a five minute piece explaining that Doctor Oz was a quack.; २०/९/१६, ३:५३ PM
rehajm म्हणाले...: This was followed by a five minute piece explaining that Doctor Oz was a quack.

Dr. Oz is the preferred heart surgeon of Democratic operative and former Clinton Deputy Secretary of the Treasury Roger Altman. Either Oz isn't a quack or Democrats have very poor judgement or those two groups are not mutually exclusive.; २०/९/१६, ४:१३ PM
Kirk Parker म्हणाले...: DBQ,

You don't even need a moderator for that, all you need is a sound guy with a countdown timer.

1. Set timer to 4 minutes (or whatever), turn on Mic A, turn off Mic B, press timer Start button.

2. When time reaches 1 minute, hold up 1 finger so the speaker can see it.

3. When time reaches 30 seconds, hold up your hand in the shape of a zero.

4. When the timer goes off, repeat the process swapping A and B.; २०/९/१६, ४:४१ PM
alan markus म्हणाले...: Just opened my new issue of Rolling Stone - don't read it much anymore, but I have a lifetime subscription, so I figure I will let them continue to spend money mailing it to me & then it goes in the recycle bin.

However, this issue is going to stay around until after the election - Matt Taibbi has declared that Trump's campaign is over. This issue might have that "Dewey Defeats Truman" headline staying power.

How Donald Trump Lost His Mojo: Flailing on race and immigration, his campaign in chaos, the candidate who made a brilliant farce of the election is now finding the joke is on him

That's all folks, everyone go home, nothing to see here, it's all over now.; २०/९/१६, ४:४७ PM
wildswan म्हणाले...: When you ask reporters to report what they see and hear you strip away their creativity and imagination. That's old-school. New-school reporters creatively, imaginatively and actively objectively fill in what is lacking in the words in front of them so as to present the truth. This is "active objectivity", not lying media.

Example: Hillary's "fainting spell" which can clearly be seen to be some sort of seizure or Parkinson induced freeze? This was: a Republican talking point; I mean it was dehydration; I mean, it was a fainting spell; I mean it was pneumonia at the age of 70 without bed-rest; I mean it was "brave Hillary powering through" which means looking sick, dazed and pathetic

At a certain level of power, doctors stop helping and friends stop advising. No one tells the truth and another kind of doctor starts enabling a drug-fueled life. Hillary is at that level which is actively objectionable to normal human feeling. To me drugged Hillary is getting sicker while the media lashes her on like Christopher Marlowe's Tamburlain being dragged by 4 kings: "Hola, ye pampered jade of DC, what! can you but do three fundraisers a day!!".; २०/९/१६, ५:२१ PM
Comanche Voter म्हणाले...: Well CNN hates "racial profiling". Israel may be engaged in "religious profiling" which CNN would hate just as much--unless they were profiling Jews--and that would be okay in CNN's mind.

But profiling is supposed to be bad; as for me, I call it fishing where the fish are.; २०/९/१६, ६:०१ PM
Kirk Parker म्हणाले...: ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.; २०/९/१६, ६:५७ PM
Bad Lieutenant म्हणाले...: Drugged Hillary is getting sicker

You betcha! Drudge has her missing another fundraiser, or a week of them, and Trump wishing her a good night's rest. Drudge has a picture of her with her left eye crossed inwards-strabismus, is it? That's why she was wearing the prism glasses at the hearings, to correct that condition.

She has a serious neurological deficit for which she can no longer compensate. I feel very harshly towards her but it is theoretically possible, however unlikely, that what lies before her is a fate worse than she deserves. I do hope she stays in the race.; २०/९/१६, ९:३१ PM
khesanh0802 म्हणाले...: @ Bad LT. I was skeptical until I watched the video a couple of times. Her left eye is definitely wandering a bit. The still is, of course, obvious. Like you, I feel the woman is despicable and have very little sympathy. It says a great deal about the Clintons and the Democratic party that they are willing to continue this facade of health. She is clearly sick, she has guts I give her that, but she is willing to place the country in an impossible position to satisfy her overweening need for power. I would think her campaign would be trying very hard to find a way out of the debates.; २०/९/१६, १०:१४ PM
PackerBronco म्हणाले...: Coming soon to the MSM:

Question: Do you believe blacks are an inferior race?
Trump: No! Of course not!

reported as:

Trump: Of course!

and when caught the MSM apologizes saying, "we inadvertently cut off some his response due to time constraints."; २०/९/१६, १०:१६ PM
grackle म्हणाले...: The method:

Say something bland and unobjectionable about a controversial(to the Left) issue. Make sure you include “trigger” words and phrases. – “Israel,” “profile,” “terrorism,” “suspicious,” “it works.”

Next the MSM puts the most willfully far-fetched spin possible on Trump’s words – or any GOP nominee. It’s classic stimulus/response behaviorism conditioned over many decades.

The MSM can always be counted on to overreach. Overreach became the norm some time back. Here lately, with Trump, a significant slice of the public seems to have caught on.; २०/९/१६, १०:४१ PM