The raucous scene outside the convention center was matched by Mr. Trump’s fiery tone inside the rally, which protesters disrupted less than three minutes after he started speaking.And then the rest of the article displays Trump's fieriness. So the only evidence that these awful protesters — throwing rocks at horses! — were anti-Trump, rather than fired-up supporters, was the news that they "disrupted" Trump.
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"Protesters Throw Rocks at Police Horses Outside Trump Rally in Albuquerque."
That NYT headline should make it clear that the protesters were anti-Trump protesters. In fact, there's close to nothing in the text of the whole article that specifies who the protesters were. Midway through, you get this:
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Damn those Tea Baggers! Violent bastards........
In fact, there's close to nothing in the text of the whole article that specifies who the protesters were
Soros doesn't pay if it does.
He also criticized Mrs. Clinton’s voice — a complaint that many view as sexist. “She screams and it drives me crazy,” he said.
"Many" is this case is the NYT editorial board.
Karla Molinar, a University of New Mexico student, said she participated in disrupting Trump's speech because she felt he was attacking members of her family who are living in the country illegally. She said she believes Trump is using them as scapegoats for the nation's problems.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/02520ebc961941e485e75544800fe07c/protests-turn-violent-outside-trump-rally-new-mexico
NY times, CNN, and MSNBC should be paid by the DNC and the DNC fined for in kind contibutions
Illegals are appropriating our culture and country . They should be kicked out per SJW doctrine.
About a decade ago, James Taranto on his WSJ Best of the Web page had a feature called "Guess the political party" where he then linked to headlines and article ledes where some politician was doing something nefarious. GOP politicians were identified as such immediately whereas party affiliation of Democrats was held to the 10th paragraph or not at all. It was pretty frequent at first and trailed off as journalists were shamed out of the practice until now.
I commented on this in the "cafe" below.
Are there any reports of Pro-Trump voters showing up at a Cruz rally or Bernie rally or Hillary rally and throwing rocks and/or disrupting the candidate from speaking?
I've heard of none.
If they did, I'm sure the media would blame Trump (and perhaps rightfully so).But it doesn't happen.
And when anti-Trump voters show up to disrupt Trump from speaking and/or to cause general disturbance, who gets blamed? Yes, Trump.
Another reason not to read the NewYork Times.
MSNBC and CNN are in a tough bind. They have to show the protest images, it fill up the screen and the time. All the while never mentioning the Mexican flags, or the almost about to get violent nature of the protestors; talking around what you see is taking place with your own eyes.
I would imagine the images play to Trump's favor. The protestors are attempting to intimidate people into not voting for Trump. Almost as if, "this could happen in your town too".
...which will make people on fence think, damn, we really do need that wall.
"Although hundreds are endangered by raucous protesters, blacks continue to try to vote in Alabama!"
The clown show called CNN reported last night that Trump "attracts" violent protesters because he says things people don't like, implying that the riots are his fault. It's a peculiar position for a news organization to take, opposing the whole free speech thing. I guess CNN is "all in" with Hillary's new slogan because they seem to be sanctioning her campaigns antecedents.
Mexicans here illegally and New Mexico police that allowed them to act lawless. Maybe the excuse is that Mexicans do not understand English speaking police officers.
This is an open war being made on American citizens sponsored by the No Boundaries Democrats using private imported Armies.
"That NYT headline should make it clear that the protesters were anti-Trump protesters."
Gee, ya might even think the NYT and all the MSM have an agenda to discredit Trump, his supporters, and all those who voted for him.
Apparently the NYT still hasn't figured out his ability to draw attention and focus negates their traditional advantage of misleading the public.
As I recall Althouse's conclusion on Rubio was that he proved himself not smart enough to be President by failing to recognize outdated tactics. Similarly the NYT has demonstrated they aren't smart enough to be the NYT.
That NYT headline should make it clear that the protesters were anti-Trump protesters.
No they shouldn't - honest reporting would be very much out of character for the NYT.
The clown show called CNN reported last night that Trump "attracts" violent protesters because he says things people don't like, implying that the riots are his fault.
Yes. Basically another version of SHUT UP. If you don't toe the liberal line....shut up. If you say things that they don't want to hear, they will drown you out with Trigglypuff tantrums.
Except now, it is worse. It is SHUT UP or else. Shut up or we will hurt you and maybe even kill you. The push back from this is going to be bad. Eventually, those being told to shut up will decide that they have no other recourse than to respond "in kind".
Leftist protesters seem to have learned the wrong lesson of 1968. They think their protests harmed Humphrey because they disrupted his convention and made his allies (like Richard Daley) look like thugs. In fact, they helped Nixon because their disruptions fed his "law and order" theme and most voters sided with the police.
Can we just officially change the name of the New York Times to the Clinton Pravda as long as they're reporting on this campaign? I don't care for Trump but this slanted reporting is insane, even by the Times' usual standards.
These protests aren't spontaneous, they are planned and organized. That is the news and that is what needs investigation, but I don't expect to find it in the NY Times.
Well, that's exactly the point.
Trump has to be made out to be irresponsibly poking the wasps nest, endangering everyone.
Interesting that many seem comfortable with dehumanizing whole races and classes of people as wasps.
"The clown show called CNN reported last night that Trump "attracts" violent protesters because he says things people don't like, implying that the riots are his fault. It's a peculiar position for a news organization to take, opposing the whole free speech thing. I guess CNN is "all in" with Hillary's new slogan because they seem to be sanctioning her campaigns antecedents."
He was asking for it.
By being an effective speaker.
I wonder if it would be possible to fast-track some funding legislation to provide the Trump crowd and the Black Lives Matter crowd and the Berners with sufficient weaponry and a location (say, the South Side of Chicago) where they could all slaughter each other down to the last man?
I blame the Amish
Free speech to the strongest.
Too bad about the Times. It used to be a great newspaper. Now you have to use your Pravda reading skills to figure out what is going on.
In the days of the USSR, you couldn't take Pravda literally, but if you knew the rules you could figure out what was going on. For example, Pravda would never report casualties from air crashes but if the story did not include many accounts of the heroism of the rescue workers, you could safely assume everyone on board was killed.
Same with the Times now, the careful reader can figure out from hints that it was ANTI Trump protesters throwing rocks. But really, why bother? It's easier to read Drudge instead.
One characteristic of Socialism is the suppression of free speech.
This characteristic is blatantly obvious in Communist societies. As the Communist elite strives to micro-manage the entire society and economy, that elite cannot tolerate criticism. A requirement to deal with citizens' criticism would distract and disrupt that elite.
The same compulsion to suppress free speech motivates Socialists, although not so blatantly. Socialists want to centralize within an elite all the major decisions about the society and economy. That elite is distracted and disrupted by citizens' criticism.
Socialists here now in the USA are trying to prevent Donald Trump from speaking to audiences and are trying to prevent audiences from listening to Trump.
If this prevention of free assembly and speech requires rocks to be thrown at police horses, then so be it.
When the people constituting the supposed provocation are exercising an inherent, inalienable, individual right, peacefully, and the people responding through violent protest to the supposed provocation are primarily intent on depriving others of their rights, I, for one, want the police to use more tear gas, and haul the miscreant "protesters" off to jail for rioting, as quickly as possible.
God forbid that after Hillary gets elected, anyone ever raise a word not sufficiently praising her policies! That person will be pilloried by the press, by the left, and by the entire government. Yet attempting to stop a speech is considered OK by those same violent pathological bastards.
"If they did, I'm sure the media would blame Trump"
They are already blaming him for the present anti-Trump riots. These will get worse and I am really concerned about his safety.
The riot at the DePaul speech by Milo Yiannopoulos was ignored by the 15 security guards that the university insisted that the Republican club that invited him pay for. They rushed the stage and threatened to punch him. One took the microphone away from him.
This is going to be a really ugly summer. I would not get within a thousand miles of the two conventions.
@TosaGuy
I saw a TV news graphic years back that identified Rod Blagojevich as a Republican.
In 1885 Grover Cleveland was elected on a slogan of "we love him for his enemies." I don't love Trump, and probably never will, but I certainly respect him because of who hates him.
And DePaul made Milo Yiannapoulos pay $1,000 extra for security who sat back and did nothing while BLM activists threatened to assault him.
Karla Molinar, a University of New Mexico student, said she participated in disrupting Trump's speech because she felt he was attacking members of her family who are living in the country illegally. She said she believes Trump is using them as scapegoats for the nation's problems.
Her family SHOULD be attacked. I am not in the mood to welcome invaders.
The clown show called CNN reported last night that Trump "attracts" violent protesters because he says things people don't like, implying that the riots are his fault. It's a peculiar position for a news organization to take, opposing the whole free speech thing. I guess CNN is "all in" with Hillary's new slogan because they seem to be sanctioning her campaigns antecedents.
The media is shockingly supportive of the heckler's veto.
@Char Char -- Virginia Dumbocrat Governor Terry McAuliffe was identified by CNBC as a Republican after it was revealed that he was under investigation by the FBI for illegal campaign contributions.
Which "Trump crowd", Chuck? Do you mean the "anti-Trump crowd"?
Chuck, you may have a point.
Though I wouldn't bet against the Trump side in such a match.
Easier to legalize dueling though.
Getting rid of it was probably a mistake, the consequences of which only emerged slowly.
@Big Mike
I saw his name in a few headlines lately with no indication of party affiliation. It's a good thing I didn't read the articles.
I saw a TV news graphic years back that identified Rod Blagojevich as a Republican.
Same with Dan Rostenkowski.
I hope the protesters list any of their activities as in-kind contributions to the Trump campaign. If Trump wins, it will in large part be due to the activities of such protesters.
@damikesc, I don't suppose it crosses Karla Molinar's mind that perhaps her family really is one of the sources of this nation's problems? Not the sole source, surely, but definitely a contributing factor.
The Albuquerque police said...no tear gas had been deployed...
Well, why not?
The police said on Twitter that the only arrests had been inside the rally...
Why were there no arrests outside, since you clearly witnessed illegal activity?
The police reported that their horses were being attacked...The police also said no gunshots had been fired.
Well, why not? Why the fuck do you think you've been issued a sidearm? They send one of yours to the vet, you send one of theirs to the morgue. That's the Albuquerque way!
NYT: All the news we find fit to print...
One picture of Mexican flags is worth 10000 votes for Trump
RESOLVED, henceforth, on this hallowed blog that "The New York Times" be sarcastically referred to as "The New York Pravda."
In recent NPR coverage of the disruption of the Democratic convention in Nevada by Sanders supporters, they were described as "almost as violent as Trump supporters"
I'd say that sums it up pretty well.
Everyone knows who they are. Yes, the Times is a pinko rag. But no one expects any different. I wonder only whether they believe that not saying who they are covers up anything or if it's just that directly identifying a designated victim group in connection with disreputable behavior is considered gauche at the Times. Or both.
Years ago instapundit linked to a time magazine article showing 10 disgraced politicians due to sex scandals. Bill Clinton was one of the ten.
All five Republicans were named as Republicans. Clinton was the only person identified as a Democrat.
Remember that if it's not in the Times, it can't go on Facebook, so that proves Facebook isn't biased.
@Bay Area Guy, may I offer a friendly amendment that it be named the "New York Slime"?
Police horses are considered part of the force around here. "Attack" a police horse on Bourbon Street and see what happens. Your good times won't be rouler much longer.
These rioters remind of me of a dude in a wife-beater t-shirt hitting his wife and yelling at her to "Stop making me hit you!"
Damnit. We are heading to Baghdad Bob territory faster than expected.
Leftist protesters seem to have learned the wrong lesson of 1968. They think their protests harmed Humphrey because they disrupted his convention and made his allies (like Richard Daley) look like thugs. In fact, they helped Nixon because their disruptions fed his "law and order" theme and most voters sided with the police.
Thing is, the optics of people waving Mexican flags attacking anybody is horrible for the pro-amnesty crowd. Why should we bend over and allow these thugs to break our laws when they CLEARLY hate our country? Would MEXICO tolerate any of this bullshit?
Trump said Mexico sends us their criminals --- and then these asshats wave around Mexican flags while being thugs. You'd think it was a false flag operation given how tone deaf these dolts are.
Pocahontas was giving it to Trump today by telling everyone that he was rooting for a housing market failure.
A failure, brought on by the government who decided to underwrite every loan made to every illegal immigrant.
I remember one of the ladies in our church got a loan approval, and she had no job.
The theory was, she would buy the house, and then sell it for $5k + expenses, and then do that again (flip this house). It would have been a good plan, except she was getting in to the market at the top of the bubble.
Pocahontas knows she's guilty, and I know she's guilty, but I just want everyone to know she is a fraud, in case you've been misled.
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I wonder if it would be possible to fast-track some funding legislation to provide the Trump crowd and the Black Lives Matter crowd and the Berners with sufficient weaponry and a location (say, the South Side of Chicago) where they could all slaughter each other down to the last man?
Good one Chuck, two violent gangs fighting with people in an orderly line waiting to hear a speech. BTW, you attack Greta yet, like you threatened?
Another thing, ten asshole attacking one Trump supporter will always be described as "pro Trump and anti-Trump people clash.."
My wife, age 70, and our neighbor, age 65, were part of the initial protest group. The protest area was south of the Albuquerque Convention Center. My wife and our neighbor wandered around the protest area carrying their signs. For some reason people entering the event were channeled north along the protest group area. Boos and insults were exchanged between the two groups. By the time the serious action began, my wife and our neighbor had departed for dinner two blocks away.
People close to the state Democratic party were involved in organizing the protest. (I know names.)
Its no excuse, but Albuquerque and New Mexico have had a tough few years with a crappy economy, a visionless governor, a mayor who wants to destroy Rt. 66, police shootings and more.
The Trump crowd is composed largely of TEA Party and people with similar concerns. Productive and tolerant, even proper, to a fault. Trump is just the Patton-type leader they need to secure a Victory on E-Day.
I pray to the Lord to protect us from any more governors with "vision."
La Tejana Susana is doing a pretty good job repairing the damage from the previous couple of administrations.
If the press keeps this up, they may even make me into a Trumper. The more they do it, the more I want to vote for him, and I think that's the feeling of the majority of us both on the Trump train and those of us still just checking the train schedule.
Trump's very appeal is the desire to thwart people like the NYT who venture to convince us of lies and distortions. That's not a good enough reason for me to support him, but it does make me hate and fear his opposition even more. Well done, Times.
coupe said...
Pocahontas was giving it to Trump today by telling everyone that he was rooting for a housing market failure.
Looks like Warren made a lot of money flipping foreclosed homes.
So she's a liar and a hypocrite.
Why..where's PETA? Err..Donning topless mermaid outfits at Fisherman's Wharf?
Gotta love the tone deaf use of Mexican flags. That'll garner sympathy for sure...
All I know about Albuquerque, is what you can glean from zipping by the shithole at 70 MPH.
I think we should give New Mexico to Old Mexico, and reap the benefits.
At least the Mexicans can do roofs and Taco's!
""Protesters Throw Rocks at Police Horses Outside Trump Rally in Albuquerque.""
That NYT headline should make it clear that the protesters were anti-Trump protesters.
Ah, but were they? If I ran the Trump campaign I'd be paying these guys. Scenes like this will do more for his support than any speech.
The housing Bubble was ordered by Bush to cover up Clinton's crashing Dot Com Bubble and keep the economy sucking up the savings from profits of the foreign industrial boom caused by Capitalism sending its manufacturing overseas.
That worked because Wall Street sold foreigners bonds based on junk Mortgages as if they were federally Insured. It turned out they were in the end Federally insured by AIG bailout. But the crash was from that the Government ordered Ponzi scheme when it inevitably ran out of buyers who could make the payments because their Jobs, other than Housing Boom caused jobs, were quickly sent overseas.
Trump did brag that he was part of a group with the cash to risk and could save the market price collapse by going in and buying houses at 30% of old FMV when no one else would touch them for 10% which had become the new FMV.
The Banking Industry that was used to do this was effectively wiped out except for the selected Mega Banks allowed to live and take over the rest of the failed banks, provided that they were no longer doing banking. From then on they could only re-loan the Government's Money to select political cronies. And Hillary is a Clinton Bag woman who hits these Banks up big time for that privilege.
The Government started the bubble under Clinton, and while Bush continued it on what appeared to be a wonderful increase in home ownership and the economic benefits that followed, it was Bush who eventually foresaw the downside as it went viral. There is plenty of video of the Bush Administration trying to convince Congress to reel in the out of control lending being pushed by regulations as well as greed. The Democrats and specifically Barney Frank famously led their dismissing of the whole issue right up to the crash and even into it.
- Otto, what are you doing?
- It's a Buddhist meditation technique. Focuses your aggression. The monks used to do it before battle.
A Fish Named Wanda
I remember a lot of people in the Chicago suburb where I lived who loved to look rich on interest only loans or 3-year arms.
Everyone else got stuck with their McMansion bills while they still drove around in their Escalades whining about being underwater.
Thing is, the optics of people waving Mexican flags attacking anybody is horrible for the pro-amnesty crowd.
I think so too, but one of the anchors on CNN today questioned whether Trump bringing this up would be seen as anti-Hispanic.
News flash: the rioters weren't throwing rocks at the horses.
Can you imagine the shitstorm that would start if you burned a Mexican flag at one of these things? But for centuries, millenia, flying a flag over a territory meant you owned that territory.
Look at all the Mexican flags, and wonder why people are going to be silent until November and vote for Trump.
"I remember a lot of people in the Chicago suburb where I lived who loved to look rich on interest only loans or 3-year arms."
I can see why IO loans would explode on them when it came time to add principal, but why were adjustable rate mortgages such a bad deal? As I recall interest rates didn't go up significantly, and then dropped quite a bit since that time. The real reason for the housing collapse was people couldn't make even the initial payments for very long, what with their expectations of reselling the house for a profit after a year.
Those were tolerant, rainbow rocks the protesters threw at the horses, so it's consequence-free.
The reckoning approaches. The uniparty made Trump happen. But stopping him will not stop what is to come.
Trump will win in a landslide. What happens next is up to them. Exile, or ...
"I can see why IO loans would explode on them when it came time to add principal, but why were adjustable rate mortgages such a bad deal?"
The ticket in states that allow negative-amortization loans was the "option-ARM." The "option" part meant you could pay the minimum interest or the actual interest or something in-between. Of course, if you paid less than the actual interest you'd get negative amortization, but on some of these loans you could pay as little as one percent interest and not be in default.
Of course, eventually the loan would "reset"- usually when loan-to-value hit 120% or so. When that happened (and assuming the appraised value had increased) you re-financed into a new option-ARM.
You could live in a $500,000. residence for less than $420./month (plus taxes and insurance). Sure, you'd get foreclosed when prices stopped going up but it was a sweet deal while it lasted. And when it ended, it was the lender (or more often the sucker who'd bought a bundle of bad loans in a CDO, or those "government-sponsored entities" Fannie and Freddie) who took the loss.
And then the ever-clueless press had a big pity-party about how awful it was that these "homeowners" had to leave "their" homes ...
If s/he ever had any to begin with, the commenter self-identifying as "Chuck" has lost all credibility. S/he may be a moby.
BTW, the irony of adjustable-rate loans was that you could qualify for a larger loan if you chose and ARM instead of fixed-rate, because the calculation was based on the initial interest rate.
Which doesn't make much sense, as adjustable-rate loans are inherently riskier than fixed-rate ones due to the risk that payments may rise substantially. Presumably a mortgage market where lenders had to correctly assess risk to survive would understand that, but one in which loans could easily be sold to suckers had little need to do so.
"Mostly peaceful protest," right? The former use of that phrase tells you everything you need to know about Media bias and lack of integrity.
"He was asking for it. By being an effective speaker." True. Then again, any conservative speaker near an American campus, or threatening to be successful in a campaign, is "effective" enough to be "asking for it" from Progs.
Those protests were 100% Astroturfed. Brietbart points out that most had professionally printed signs & pamphlets with PSL or "The Party for Socialism and Liberation." printed on them. Also, another extremest lefty group, an Indian Rights group called "The Red Nation" was heavily represented; both groups well-funded by guess who? His nationality begins with an H and I'll give you three guess and the first two don't count.
Just a quick question: What do these people imagine will happen if they successfully "no platform" the (likely) Republican presidential candidate?
They want to shut down the Trump rallies. What happens if they manage to do so?
What happens when the message we all receive is "violence that shuts down my political opponents both works and is morally acceptable to this nation" (as shown by the Media's reaction and lack of popular disapproval)?
Has anyone called on Hillary Clinton to denounce this violence yet?
Is pointing out this ridiculous Media bias still considered "whining," Professor?
Police twitter: Bottles and rocks are being thrown at our officers and police horses.
Police twitter: There have been no arrests outside the rally.
So...I guess it's ok to throw bottles and rocks at cops, now? I mean, I get if you're too outnumbered to make an immediate arrest, but shouldn't you at least say "we're investigating footage and will arrest and vigorously prosecute anyone who threw rocks at our officers?"
Do they WANT to send the message that you aren't likely to be arrested if you happen to engage in a violent protest and throw rocks at cops? Is that...is that a good message or a good incentive, do they think?
the effective means of suppressing such mob actions in order:
1. the use of command officer controlled snipers to take out (With hollow point rounds as will not go further to hurt others) the leaders or weapons-using members of mobs;
2. If that fails, the use of volley fire (Aimed, if the attacking mob is on pavement) a few feet in front of that mob so that they are "cut off at the knees.
I think so too, but one of the anchors on CNN today questioned whether Trump bringing this up would be seen as anti-Hispanic.
He could argue ignoring it would be anti-American.
I don't want to vote for Trump...but damn, these assholes really, really cannot be allowed to win.
I can see why IO loans would explode on them when it came time to add principal, but why were adjustable rate mortgages such a bad deal?
My father worked for a bank reviewing loan data. What he told me at the time was that the mortgages are a problem because the initial teaser rate didn't even pay interest, much less principal. So, they were paying less than the interest rates before they adjusted up to the interest level. He knew new hires at his bank that he knew couldn't be making more than $40,000 buying $250,000 homes. He fought his bosses because he already went thru a crisis where a bank he worked out went under with tax changes in the 1980's.
And a lot of people who got those ARMs couldn't pay those teaser rates. They had delinquencies there YEARS before the crisis hit. It's like every single bubble bursting --- all the signs were there and almost nobody wanted to see it.
Why are Liberals so violent?
The riot at the DePaul speech by Milo Yiannopoulos was ignored by the 15 security guards that the university insisted that the Republican club that invited him pay for. They rushed the stage and threatened to punch him. One took the microphone away from him.
The DePaul President has emailed about the problem.
After attacking Milo for a while (well, for the majority of his missive), he said that what happened was not acceptable.
A refund? No, he didn't offer one.
Discipline for any students involved? Didn't mention any.
It's time to visit any federal funding for colleges that do not stamp this nonsense out.
Yes, ProgressNM and the Southwest Organizing Project gathered to peacefully protest the existence of Donald Trump, but the sudden appearance of those dreaded Police Horses changed the entire evening. Normally peaceful protestors gathered rocks to fight off the damed horses. Damn you, Police Horses. Damn you!
It's probably past the time we should consider using the NY Times as a source for anything. No more than you would Mad Magazine.
Bad juju man. You don't throw rocks at horses; although if you go to a Hillary Clinton rally, you can throw rocks at a horse's ass.
"Albuquerque and New Mexico have had a tough few years with a crappy economy,"
Why would they blame Trump ? I am trying to remember the name of the guy who's been president the past 7 years.
On the real estate bubble, Alan Greenspan decided to reinstall the dot com bubble and that gave us the start of the housing bubble but it really took off after the Dims took Congress in 2006. A lot of blame goes to Hastert who took over the GOP Congress and continued his career as a member of the Illinois "Combine," which includes both parties.
Bush was probably too optimistic about Iraq but the huge mistake he made was to put Bremer in charge. As usual, the Democrats cut and ran once the war got messy.
You would think with all of that cheap labor, everyone in New Mexico would be rich by now!
coupe said...
I think we should give New Mexico to Old Mexico, and reap the benefits.
N.M. has always been one of my least-favorite western states; our "local" TV comes from AlbertTurkey - "like a bad neighbor, New Mexico is there."
Creepy Batman-style DWI signs
As predicted: "Trump protesters and supporters continue to clash after rally" LA Times after Anehiem rally.
5 Trump supporters, attacked by over a hundred maniacs.
Well, of course the reporting is misleading- what do you expect? The problem, however, is this- the misleading reporting is completely ineffective now and, ironically, only strengthen's Trump's political position. Like I wrote a few weeks ago- Trump probably can't quite believe how stupid his opposition truly is.
FullMoon said...
As predicted: "Trump protesters and supporters continue to clash after rally"
Ya beat me to it:
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-trump-anaheim-201605-protesters-trump-supporters-c-1464211337-htmlstory.html
What they meant to say was "Trump protesters continue to harass and steal from Trump supporters after rally".
For those that have mentioned Karla Molinar, she made the news a couple of years ago also. Something about transporting 25lbs of meth. Yes pounds.
http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2014-12-01/potter-traffic-stop-nets-25-pounds-meth
Why aren't they called "Clinton Supporters?"
Illegals rioting only serve to make Trump's point about them. They're contributing to his campaign and don't even know it.
Many of the comments here assume that the rioters will only embolden Trump supporters and increase his chance for victory in the election. They may be right. But suppose the objective is similar to terrorism: making people afraid to go a Trump rally in fear of their safety? Making people who read the NY Times and the outlets that depend in the Times believe that Trump supporters are violent?
It can work. The MSM may be declining in impact, but it’s not dead, by a long shot. Characterize Trump rallies as magnets for violence and you may be achieving your objective, especially if you can get the 24/7 news outlets telling the same story. Of course this version of "reality" will be very popular on campus where opinions range from Communist to Socialist.
There is money behind these riots; some say it’s Soros money. I don’t know, but Soros did collaborate with the Nazis who used the big lie, and mob intimidation tactics to drive their opponents from the field. It may that in his 80s the old Nazi is resurrecting an old playbook. This time it’s not in the beer-halls of Germany but in places like Albuquerque.
Have I mentioned before that I do not and can not trust the major media to tell the truth? I have to read and view them as the Russian people had to read Tass, Pravda, and Izvestia.
I don't think that it really matters if the protests embolden Trump supporters, and probably better if they don't. America doesn't like cheating, and this is seen by many as just that, cheating. Making it worse are all those Mexican flags. Aren't going to be a lot of voters turned on by seeing those flags, and probably a lot who are turned of by them, wondering what Obama has gotten us into with all these presumably illegals, and their supporters trying to disrupt our democratic process. They should be thankful they are here, not spiteful. A lot of them are going too rethink this non-enforcement and effective amnesty thing, and side with Trump.
The other thing to keep in mind is that Trump really doesn't need to go to rally after rally like a typical candidate does. He gets on the nightly news every night just fine. The MSM seems incapable of just ignoring him. He was on tonight calling Hillary a lier, after rhe State Dept AG released his report on Hillary's email. And her people will take a day or two to formulate their coordinated response, when it is now old news. Which will give Trump another shot at hitting her. They can't ignore him - he is too much fun, and gets ratings.
I think though that we can expect that he will call out the groups protesting him, and who is paying them. As noted above, that sort of thing becomes known fairly quickly, and he has shown that he has an ear to the Internet, as well as doing his homework. And realizing the the violence of the protests is both planned, and often funded, is going to sway voters in his direction.
The problem with the media is that it loves to report things that it thinks will discredit Trump, yet it is unable to distinguish between what discredits Trump in their eyes (and the eyes of people they know) and what discredits Trump in the eyes of the people actually supporting him.
The media aren't good at this with Trump so far, in effect distributing his campaign message nationwide for free during the Republican primary such that to date, Trump has had very little need of any outside money for his campaign. I'm not sure if that will continue, but imagine if Clinton needs to spend tons of time fundraising to raise money to pay to get her message out while Trump gets to spend all his time on the stump blasting away at "crooked Hillary" wining and dining the rich and powerful at $10,000 a plate dinners while the media basically continues to give him free air time by constantly talking about the outrageous things he says.
If things keep going on the way they're going, the media will end up helping to elect Trump in the process of trying to destroy him, and will end up wondering how on earth it happened.
"I think though that we can expect that he will call out the groups protesting him, and who is paying them. As noted above, that sort of thing becomes known fairly quickly, and he has shown that he has an ear to the Internet, as well as doing his homework. And realizing the the violence of the protests is both planned, and often funded, is going to sway voters in his direction."
Bruce that's spot on. Trumpy is going to bring that up. While people may well be intimidated into going to Trumpy's rallies, the intimidation factor will drive them to the polls. Now Trumpy has to get them to vote a straight R ticket. If he can pull that off, he will own the Republican Party. The irony is Trumpy may very well be a bigger success in politics than he ever was in business although what he will do with that success if it happens remains to be seen.
damikesc I live in South Florida and I sensed this housing bubble was going to burst several years before it did. All the signs were there for those who wanted to see. When a nothing 1200 square foot home in Coral Gables Fl built in the 1920's was renting for $2,500 a month but for sale at $500,000 with taxes at 2.8% never mind homeowners and windstorm insurance it was obvious to anyone with two working brain cells the market was stupid crazy. Naturally with government permission liar loans and no or minimal down payments every schmuck though himself a home developer/flipper. And yes, once again the skids have been greased for round two of the housing bubble bust along with the stock market bubble. God help us if both bubbles burst simultaneously.
Imagine what Mexican riot police would do to an American-flag-waving rent-a-mob that was targeting their horses with rocks.
I saw a TV news graphic years back that identified Rod Blagojevich as a Republican.
Same with Dan Rostenkowski.
Same with George Wallace and Chris Hayes.
@ Money Runner
That may be their goal. They are not going to get what they want though.
"the almost about to get violent nature"
-- No almost about it. They lit things on fire, threw things at police and assaulted a man in a wheelchair while the police did nothing.
I'm not a fan of Trump, but I'm less a fan of lawless intimidation techniques. It doesn't mean I'll vote for Trump, but it means that I tune out a lot of the Trump is literally Hitler nonsense.
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