१३ डिसेंबर, २०१५

Donald Trump mockingly imitates Hillary's hand gestures.



Filmed from Trump's appearance today on "Fox News Sunday."

"Everything she does is, like, theatrical. 'Oh, Donald Trump said this'... Looks like she practices in front of a mirror for 2 hours...."

He should know theatrical!

ADDED: When Hillary imitated Trump:



Last September on "The Tonight Show," linked in the comments here.

MORE: I clipped the video to highlight the imitation, but if it were extended a bit, you'd hear something that I can see is getting talked about. From the transcript:
And one of the reasons I’m going to do great with women is that I’m a leader. I’m not Hillary Clinton. She’s got no strength, she’s got no stamina. Everything she does is theatrical. Oh, Donald Trump said this. He -- actually it was interesting. She said -- I watched her last night. It looks like, she practices in front of a mirror for two hours, Donald Trump said, I think he's dangerous. I’m dangerous. She's the one that caused all this problem with her stupid policies. You look at what she did with Libya, what she did with Syria. Look at Egypt. What happened with Egypt, a total mess. They don’t back -- we don’t back any of our allies. You look, she was truly, if not the -- one of the worst secretaries of state in the history of the country. She talks about me being dangerous. She's killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity.

WALLACE: What do you mean she's killed hundreds of thousands?

TRUMP: She was secretary of state. Obama was president. The team -- two real geniuses... Look at what happened. The Middle East is a total disaster under her. She traveled back and forth, but look at the problems. Look -- as an example -- Iraq, total disaster. They didn’t get us in, but they got us out badly, OK? Total -- we spent $2 trillion, thousands of lives, wounded warriors all over. Look at -- look at Libya. Look at Benghazi, our ambassador. He wired her 500 or 600 times asking for help. She'll take her friends' call every time. Hillary Clinton doesn't have the judgment. She doesn't have the strength or the stamina to be president. She will be a terrible president. 
The "hundreds of thousands" is inflammatory. There's a number in that statement — like "thousands and thousands" celebrating on the rooftops of Jersey City on 9/11. That number demands attention. It makes people think he's wrong and the wrongness can be proved. And so attention will be lavished on the problem of Hillary's bad judgment and bad policy in the Middle East and the cost in human life. Even if the number is ultimately shown to be wrong, Trump will have prevailed, because this is now the issue of the week, and the problem he's highlighting is a terrible problem whether he got the number right or wrong.

७९ टिप्पण्या:

Sebastian म्हणाले...

Come on, Donald, stop pulling your punches.

Mid-Life Lawyer म्हणाले...

Wallace let him get away with murder on Cruz. How can you let Trump talk about Cruz being unable to work with Congress because of the way he has talked about the congressmen? Seriously? The Donald's MO is personally attacking anyone who has questioned anything about him. Wallace either is afraid of scaring Trump off (ratings) or he is just plan scared of confronting him and being a victim of Trump's wrath.

But Trump was right on about Hillary. She is painful to listen to and it's obviously C-movie acting. The one thing that she is probably most remembered for now - "What difference at this point does it make?" - I was certain was rehearsed at the time. She looked down at her notes repeatedly and I think she was waiting for the right time to get that one in. It was to be her defining moment of passion. But she chose an inopportune time and so it came off more calloused than it was meant to. Look at the tape. You can see her looking down right before she says it. It was rehearsed but bad timing. Other than that ridiculousness, we also have the time she read a children's book to an audience during her rapist husband's presidency (awkward!), and the her downhome remarks to the black pastors in 2008. I post that one on FB about twice a year and I never fail to lol when I watch it.

Paul म्हणाले...

Well the obvious difference is everything Clinton does is contrived and disingenuous. Trump is just being himself as a naturally extroverted and entertaining personality.

Etienne म्हणाले...

Interestingly, Donald (dough-nahld in French) is a Scottish name, which means "Ruler of the World".

The name became popular in the USA in the 1920's, and peaked with the cartoon character "Donald Duck" at which point the popularity plummeted, to where that since the 80's, no one calls their children Donald, Donny, or even Donna. Maybe too many Donny Osmond, or Donna Summer songs...

Which is a joke also, in that almost every Donna, who came of age in the 70's owned a Camaro. It was to "rule" the driving "world," I guess...

If I wanted to drive a Camaro, I'd first data a girl named Donna, and then let her pay for it.

She always wears charms, diamonds, pearls galore,
She buys them at the 5 & 10 cents store.
She wants to be just like Zsa Zsa Gabor,
Even though she's the girl next door.


Ruler of the world - Doughnahld in 2016!

chickelit म्हणाले...

Oh save faux outrage, Althouse. There's not like straight-up impersonation

Is just because she's a woman that you think he should hold back?

Moneyrunner म्हणाले...

Ann refuses to admit that women - and gay men - are much more theatrical than men. Admit it sweetheart.

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

He should know theatrical!
How about R. Reagan?

In The 100-Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out the Window and Disappeared a spy records Reagan saying "Don't tear down that wall!" and plays the recording for the Rooskies, who decide to do the opposite of what Reagan wants, not knowing that he was referring to a rose-garden wall, not the Berlin wall. Anyway, it was a lot funnier than Billary.

Hagar म्हणाले...

Yes, but the Donald is good at it!

traditionalguy म्हणाले...

Ted Cruz would never do that. He would just lecture on being a Pure Conservative. And Pure Conservatives only need pure ideas and not, god forbid, an authentic personality.

steve uhr म्हणाले...

Not that he deserves any credit, but I think his anti-Muslim rhetoric has brought Muslims and non-Muslims in USA closer. I go out of my way to be smile at and engage in conversation with Muslims waiting in line, etc. to ease their fears, and I sense the reverse as well.

dwick म्हणाले...

Well, at least Trump is naturally theatrical...
Even after all the campaigns she's been involved with (either Bill's or her own), Hillary still comes off as the most wooden and inauthentic presidential candidate in recent memory. The only thing that comes naturally to her is the lying.

madAsHell म्हणाले...

I loved her clap, clap, wink, wink, point, point that she used in 2008. It looked phony even then.

Steve M. Galbraith म्हणाले...

The concept of class, of style, of a sort of grade, is completely alien to him.

Has he ever told a joke about himself?

Guildofcannonballs म्हणाले...

What a great concept, another reason Althouse is the number one blogger of all time, that Trump the dog-whistler is theatrical, downright literary at that of course, when giving live interviews on Fox.

The label of theater could describe the pre-planned and "staged" Hillary interviews referenced in the media recently.

On that note, Empathy (with not only a capital "E" but also this here parenthetical noting it) is useful in ways understood and taught by Tsu.

By the way, googely Tsu and see what you get. It isn't what you'd expect, Sun.

Guildofcannonballs म्हणाले...

If one likes the idea of using "begs the questions" erroneously, as if trying to express "raises the issue" and also concurrently literally uses "begs the question" as an intellectual (perhaps even associated with a University of some sort) might, I like that idea, although I might hate the person.

So, we now must ask: Not dummy-wise, when precisely undummy are ad-homminems more apt than rhetorical excess victories?

Guildofcannonballs म्हणाले...

The running joke amongst us* was Althouse allowing the heckler's veto to edit her blog.

Moderation is sophistication.

*us defined as me and not only that but not including even the hint of a concept of others

clint म्हणाले...

"traditionalguy said...
Ted Cruz would never do that. He would just lecture on being a Pure Conservative. And Pure Conservatives only need pure ideas and not, god forbid, an authentic personality.

12/13/15, 12:39 PM"

See: Ted Cruz + Princess Bride.

"Steve M. Galbraith said...
The concept of class, of style, of a sort of grade, is completely alien to him.

Has he ever told a joke about himself?"

That's still my big issue with Trump. I like the larger-than-life personality and the gloves-off readiness to fight. But I want to see him laugh at himself or defend someone else.

Like with the over-the-top debate moderators. Trump complained about the question asked of him. Trump said the moderators weren't being nice to him. Cruz complained that the moderators weren't being fair to the other candidates and listed off all the crazy questions.

The difference is hyuuuuge.

Tom म्हणाले...

This reminds me so much of pro-wrestling, it's sick.

Etienne म्हणाले...

My brother was born a month before Mrs Clinton. Died in 2013 of old age.

Why would anyone want to be president, when they can die of old age at any minute?

She and her husband are already on welfare for life, with government pensions of about $200k each, plus office, staff, and secret police.

I don't get it...

Guildofcannonballs म्हणाले...

"Mr. Trump sent the nation into an uproar..."

This power is unseen in the universe history save God.

And, oh yeah, also, bow down you. Unless, per Fen, you liars know you're bullshitting and think Obama The Naive believes his own bullshit, instead of just liking power like every white or asian transwoman throughout history, you will kneel to Trump's power more forcefully than any North Korean's public displays lionizing "dear leader."

traditionalguy म्हणाले...

One reaso a natural born citizen is needed for Presidential power is that the immigrants trying to appear even more American than Americans often are super orthodox on every issue. They cannot be a pragmatic leader doing what is needed instead to outflank real problems like Trump does every day. The are chained to their displays of Pure Ideology.

Cruz is dangerous. Trump says he is like a maniac. He has a mania that will not compromise.

traditionalguy म्हणाले...

Real American men never lose and laugh, said The commanding General of the Third Army.

Michael K म्हणाले...

We are in a deeply unserious era just as the existential threat of Islamism appears.

As Fred Thompson said in "Hunt for Red October," This will get out of control and we will be lucky to survive it.

Guildofcannonballs म्हणाले...

"Wallace let him get away with murder on Cruz."

You are too stupid to say "genocide" instead of murder, dork.

Character assassination isn't murder, and contra Buckley Gore Vidal wasn't in every conceivable way wrong academically/philosophically/intellectually to call Buckley a quasi-Nazi, as it made Vidal a thing, which was only Vidal's goal not, of course, Buckley's.

Buckley was of course wise of the evil lurking.

अनामित म्हणाले...

Hillary Clinton has "no strength, no stamina" after testifying in the Kangaroo Court for over 11 hours? Love her or hate her, Trump's characterization of her being somehow weak is ridiculous, as are most of the things he asserts.

अनामित म्हणाले...

"My brother was born a month before Mrs Clinton. Died in 2013 of old age.

Why would anyone want to be president, when they can die of old age at any minute?"

Trump is 69.
Clinton is 68.

Guildofcannonballs म्हणाले...

"deeply unserious"

Maybe you should have aborted more Leftists so you could possibly perhaps live in a day and age "serious." You have advocated your seriousness by aborting life, a most serious advocation indeed.

Or is bitching about today's culture that you helped to create, almost certainly unbeknownst, along with myself and Althouse and York and S. "Cunt" Thomas and everyone God blessed by American citizenship, what you consider serious?

Also, define "shallow" or undeeply unseriousness if you can.

Descartes thinks if you are thinking you are. He wasn't aborted and lives on via his words today and for the foreseeable future.

pm317 म्हणाले...

Alrighty! let us skip the primaries and have these two go at it in the general.

Bob Ellison म्हणाले...

That cackle will outlive her.

David Begley म्हणाले...

No question that Hillary is as dumb as a rock.

Who would setup an unsecure private email system in order to transmit State secrets and conduct her extortion/bribery scam with Bill and the Foundation?

A smart person (like El Chapo) would spend the money and do it secretly and fully encrypted.
At least come up with a better email than www.clintonemail.com.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Hillary is not only dumb and venal; she is a criminal and will not be prosecuted, even by a Republican president most likely. Even Trump, if elected, would probably let her descend into the senility that seems to be getting started.

She makes me think of Hindenberg sleeping away his afternoons while Hitler and his supporters squirreled away in the Reichstag.

Thousands killed is no exaggeration if you mean the Libyans killed since the consulate was destroyed.

chickelit म्हणाले...

You have to admit -- you believers that Trump is conspiring with Hillary to get her elected -- that's he's getting awfully good at hiding it.

Occam's Razor suggests he is actually running against her.

Guildofcannonballs म्हणाले...

OODA loop:

They think bait and switch whilst you bitch and 'swait.

Balfegor म्हणाले...

Even if the number is ultimately shown to be wrong, Trump will have prevailed, because this is now the issue of the week, and the problem he's highlighting is a terrible problem whether he got the number right or wrong.

Yes the conventional narrative is -- in both this case and the NJ 9-11 celebrations case -- that there is nothing to see here, move along citizen. And when the pushback against his claim ends up being that, sure, there was something there, it was just a lot smaller than he claims, the salient new information for the public isn't that "Trump was wrong", but that "oh, there was something there after all!"

And the subtext from Trump's critics ends up being "we were lying to you because we think you're monsters," which works all to Trump's advantage.

buwaya म्हणाले...

Trump has a very good case for "hundreds of thousands".
The body count for Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Libya, with Egypt for flavor, since 2011 certainly adds up to at least a quarter million, conservatively.
How much US policy is to blame for all this can be disputed. Obviously US foreign policy is not solely or even primarily to blame, but its also clear that a traditional use of US influence, as during the cold war, could have kept the lid on.
Instead the US was by turns acting hapless or pouring gasoline on the fires.

John Henry म्हणाले...


Blogger Amanda said...

Trump is 69.
Clinton is 68.

Who do you think is in better health, Amanda? Who do you think seems in better physical shape, Amanda? Who do you think displays more energy and stamina, Amanda. Who looks older than their age and who looks younger, Amanda? Who do you think is the more imaginative/creative thinker, Amanda?

John Henry

grimson म्हणाले...

AA: Even if the number is ultimately shown to be wrong, Trump will have prevailed, because this is now the issue of the week, and the problem he's highlighting is a terrible problem whether he got the number right or wrong.

I agree that this is his intent, but I question how effective it will be. Cruz, Rubio, Christie, and Fiorina could certainly do a better job of eviscerating the Clinton record at State, but they do not speak to the low-information voter as well Trump does.

Trump, with his juvenile mocking of critics and over-the-top rhetoric, runs the risk of bringing in low-information voters to his cause (Trump) while losing all others.

vanderleun म्हणाले...

"The "hundreds of thousands" is inflammatory. "

Here's the news.

We.
Don't.
Care.

Etienne म्हणाले...

Obama is going half-hearted into Iraq with ISIS.

The reason being, ISIS is the Sunni Muslims that the dictator Malaki disowned and took all their power. Americans feel sorry for the Sunni's because we threw them out with the Hussein bathwater.

But those guys have all the brains when it comes to war. The Shiite's are just illiterate savages in comparison.

ISIS in Iraq was created by Obama's inaction. The only reason we went after them, is they started heading towards Erbil, and the big oil companies propping-up Kurdistan.

The sooner we get Obama and Kerry out of office, the sooner we can progress as a nation.

MathMom म्हणाले...

I have always thought that Hillary's hand motions look very rehearsed and unnatural. Her Evita pose was new with her first presidential run.

In one speech, she was holding her arms up in emphasis, she was thrown off her stride by applause, arms came down. And each time she started at that same place, the arms went up again, as if there was a mechanical link between the point in the script and her arm movements.

Perhaps when they upgrade her software, they will install a randomizer to the timer that controls her arm and eye movements.

Etienne म्हणाले...


Trump is 69.
Clinton is 68.


Cruz is 45 (still has 20 years before he will die of old age).

Skeptical Voter म्हणाले...

Well the Donald may have been correct about the "two real geniuses". Even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then.

clint म्हणाले...

"The "hundreds of thousands" is inflammatory. There's a number in that statement — like "thousands and thousands" celebrating on the rooftops of Jersey City on 9/11. That number demands attention. It makes people think he's wrong and the wrongness can be proved. And so attention will be lavished on the problem of Hillary's bad judgment and bad policy in the Middle East and the cost in human life. Even if the number is ultimately shown to be wrong, Trump will have prevailed, because this is now the issue of the week, and the problem he's highlighting is a terrible problem whether he got the number right or wrong."

Exactly. This seems to be an intentional strategy.

But "hundreds of thousands" looks defensible -- at least defensible enough to lengthen the conversation beyond one eye roll. If you count the Libyan civil war (fair to blame on Clinton) and the Syrian civil war (maybe less so) and fighting in Iraq and Yemen... the total number is clearly into the hundreds of thousands. The controversial point should be whether it's fair to lay *all* of those onto Hillary Clinton's "stupidity".

Chuck म्हणाले...

Boy, the voting can't start soon enough for me. Let Trump finish fourth in Iowa or New Hampshire. Let Cruz and Rubio start winning some actual primaries.

Also - the notion that Trump is conspiring to help Clinton win; it isn't a serious claim. Of course it isn't. Nobody believes it. Trump isn't smart enough or politically influential enough to concoct such a plan. Hillary Clinton is too cautious to conspire with a loose cannon like Trump. The point of the story is simply to point out the reckless and at least partly counterproductive nature of the Trump campaign.

Etienne म्हणाले...

What's really sad, is that the Communist Party of America is so bankrupt now, that they have become a subsidiary of the Democratic Party.

I keep looking for new ideas in America, and all we get is more Mexicans, more Cubans, more welfare, and more WMD.

Time for my nap. Old age...

effinayright म्हणाले...

"In one speech, she [Hellery] was holding her arms up in emphasis, she was thrown off her stride by applause, arms came down. And each time she started at that same place, the arms went up again, as if there was a mechanical link between the point in the script and her arm movements. "

Mussolini is reported to have rehearsed his gestures thoroughly, but always seemed to make them several seconds after they naturally would have arisen.

Phony, phony phony.

Unknown म्हणाले...

---Hillary Clinton has "no strength, no stamina" after testifying in the Kangaroo Court for over 11 hours?


After the hearings, which crystalized many of her most evil lies, she went into days of recovery.

cubanbob म्हणाले...

traditionalguy said...
One reaso a natural born citizen is needed for Presidential power is that the immigrants trying to appear even more American than Americans often are super orthodox on every issue. They cannot be a pragmatic leader doing what is needed instead to outflank real problems like Trump does every day. The are chained to their displays of Pure Ideology.

Cruz is dangerous. Trump says he is like a maniac. He has a mania that will not compromise.

12/13/15, 1:42 PM"

As my dad has told me "sometimes its reasonable to be unreasonable". You just have to know when to accept their compromise.

Unknown म्हणाले...

--Obviously US foreign policy is not solely or even primarily to blame,

In Libya there is really no doubt who was to blame. How much of Egypt’s death tolls when Obama and Hillary were supporting the Muslim Brotherhood is debatable. Call it 50-50.

eric म्हणाले...

It's a problem for those who don't like Trump. They wanted us to believe, because of Trumps silence on Hillary, that he was in cahoots with her. Now that's been blown to smithereens.

And as each of their conspiracy theories gets blown up, they become less and less effectual. Thus increasing Trumps chances of winning.

cubanbob म्हणाले...

Look at -- look at Libya. Look at Benghazi, our ambassador. He wired her 500 or 600 times asking for help. She'll take her friends' call every time. Hillary Clinton doesn't have the judgment. She doesn't have the strength or the stamina to be president. She will be a terrible president."

Trump nailed it. If anything he didn't take it to the max: when every other country had closed their consulates in Benghazi due to security concerns why was ours open? Why was our Ambassador at the consulate to begin with in light of the security concerns? Why wasn't a rescue even attempted now that the email disclosures have revealed that the military was ready to go and was waiting to get the order to do so? Trump may not make for a good president but with Hillary and her judgment calls as SoS we know that she will be a terrible president.

Guildofcannonballs म्हणाले...

Trump using the lessons taught by the Left, as in it's the gravity of the charges not the truthiness, and let us thank Ted Kennedy on behalf of Justice, err, wait, um, just Judge Bork not Justice Bork, makes Leftists upset.

This is very pleasing, as was Buckley's The Unmaking of a Mayor.

अनामित म्हणाले...

"Who do you think is in better health, Amanda? Who do you think seems in better physical shape, Amanda? Who do you think displays more energy and stamina, Amanda. Who looks older than their age and who looks younger, Amanda? Who do you think is the more imaginative/creative thinker, Amanda?"

Well John Henry, I think Bernie Sanders has the most energy and stamina than either Trump or Clinton. And John Henry I think Bernie Sanders is probably the leanest and in the best health overall. Also John Henry, I think Bernie looks great for his age. And lastly John Henry, I think Bernie can outthink both Hillary and Trump hands down.

Nice chatting with you, what was your name again?

harrogate म्हणाले...

"That number demands attention [. . .] Trump will have prevailed"

So long as the "liberal media" continues to finance his campaign, to be his steographer, trumpeting everything he says, then yes, I suppose that's true.

The Godfather म्हणाले...

"Trump is 69.
Clinton is 68."

And Reagan was (almost) 70.

I'm 72 and I wouldn't think of applying for a job as demanding as the presidency. But if either of these candidates were right for the job, and willing to do what the job takes, then I'd say, Go for it!

But neither one has what it takes to do THIS job (Tromp has what it takes to be a successful real estate developer, and Hillary! has what it takes to be an adequate First Lady).

Melissa म्हणाले...


I'm going into tedious detail only because I want to counter what seems to be the received wisdom among many commenting here that Hillary is self-evidently incompetent and annoying and Trump is confident, capable, and vigorous.


I have never really liked Hillary. I thought it was inappropriate for her to run for senate while her husband was president, and I think that she can be unnecessarily defensive and insecure. For the past several years my husband and I have agonized about whether we could vote for her or not. On the other hand, I have always thought that much of the criticism of her was off-point, paranoid, and based on the fact that she came on the national stage as a not terribly attractive 40+ woman and has only gotten older since then.

Since this campaign started, I like Hillary a lot more. She seems vigorous, confident, and like a women who has hit her stride and is finally in her personal prime. As to her "cackle," her ready laugh, which I never really noticed before, comes across to me as relaxed, comfortable, unconstrained and genuinely amused. It is now the thing that I like best about her. And I like that when she laughs she seems like she is laughing *with* the person she is talking to.

I've never liked Trump either. But since this campaign started he seems more and more like the personification of resentment, while at the same time having a strong sense of his own entitlement. The sense of entitlement doesn't surprise me from someone who has been in the casino business, who is used to being the "house" in a game where the house always wins, and who has gotten used to that position as the natural order of things. I doubt that someone with that temperament would transition well to being president. I get that some people find Hillary to be annoyingly entitled, and I can see that, but I think he seems far more so. He also seems intent on being charming to bigots, and by that I don't just mean people who are not pc, I mean genuine bigots.



Regarding their respective health, @JohnHenry, I'm not sure where you were going with this, but Hillary looks in far, far, better health to me. Trump seems like he's on the verge of a heart attack or stroke and his color isn't good.

FWIW.





अनामित म्हणाले...

Melissa,
You're right about Trump's complexion and overall appearance. He is coloring is ruddy and he is quite paunchy. Plus he's very excitable and seems quite angry most times. Not a good combo for a long life.

Michael K म्हणाले...

"Obama is going half-hearted into Iraq with ISIS."

Oh, I wouldn't call it that serious. He is doing photo ops with no attempt to go beyond them. No FACs and no serious use of ordnance.

" I get that some people find Hillary to be annoyingly entitled, and I can see that, but I think he seems far more so."

HAHAHAHAHA Ask the White House Travel Office.

MathMom म्हणाले...

Melissa -

I won't bother trying to convince you about anything related to Hillary, but I think Trump's weird color is actually makeup.

Crimso म्हणाले...

'The "hundreds of thousands" is inflammatory'

Pretty sure I read that in The Lancet.

grackle म्हणाले...

Trump's characterization of her being somehow weak is ridiculous, as are most of the things he asserts.

I agree, a “weak” Hillary doesn’t quite fit. However, Trump may be saving his best insulting and devastating characterizations of Hillary until he meets her in the general election. No need to give her consultants advance warning, eh? The Art of the Deal.

Trump isn't smart enough …

Really? At this point Trump looks like a genius to me. But I’m just some low-info guy who is too easily impressed by Trump’s billions and his political dumb good luck so far.

Oh save faux outrage, Althouse.

Misreading the tone. Reread the post. Pay close attention to the last sentence.

Ted Cruz would never do that. He would just lecture on being a Pure Conservative.

Cruz does seem at times to get a bit too deep into the weeds but he appears to be learning how to communicate the gist of his points in an efficient manner and he was on target at the last debate.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

Blogger steve uhr said...

"Not that he deserves any credit, but I think his anti-Muslim rhetoric has brought Muslims and non-Muslims in USA closer. I go out of my way to be smile at and engage in conversation with Muslims waiting in line, etc. to ease their fears, and I sense the reverse as well."

I'm sure they appreciate that, Steve. I bet they'll murder you last.

JamesB.BKK म्हणाले...

@ Michael K: "We are in a deeply unserious era just as the existential threat of Islamism appears." Or, "Because we are in a deeply unserious era, the existential threat of Islamic imperialism has reappeared."

buwaya म्हणाले...

What's primarily to blame is the deplorable state of culture on these places, which is the collective fault of their people. Nobody made them like this but themselves. They are human beings, they are responsible. They aren't dangerous animals in a zoo, where the keepers are wholly responsible for the consequences of failing to keep them caged. Various errors by various supposedly responsible people, such as the US government, let them out of their cages. But the natives there are primarily responsible for subsequently behaving like animals.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

"I think Bernie can outthink both Hillary and Trump hands down."

Funniest comment on this blog in quite a while.

Drago म्हणाले...

Melissa: "I have always thought that much of the criticism of her was off-point, paranoid, and based on the fact that she came on the national stage as a not terribly attractive 40+ woman and has only gotten older since then."

It is critically important when criticizing criticism of Hillary that one never really get too specific, lest the Hillary-supportive comment collapse of it's own weight and internal contradictions.

Bill, Republic of Texas म्हणाले...

Plus he's very excitable and seems quite angry most times. Not a good combo for a long life.

I agree. Bernie Sanders is gonna stroke out anyway now.

chickelit म्हणाले...

grackle chides: Misreading the tone. Reread the post. Pay close attention to the last sentence.

grackle, when I "misread" the tone, the last line was: "He should know theatrical"

I reminded Althouse about Hillary's imitation of Trump and then she put that it into the end of the post with additional comment. So, I was supposed to read her mind or guess that she had omitted something. Which is it?

MountainMan म्हणाले...

Melissa: "Since this campaign started, I like Hillary a lot more."

She is a liar and a crook, or have you not noticed? How could anyone with any good sense cast their vote for someone of such poor character. I just don't get it. She exposed classified information via her own private e-mail server, even though required by law to use the secure State Department network, so she could carry on the shoddy family business of shaking down governments and businesses all around the world for "contributions" to the Clinton Slush Fund. She lied about Benghazi - that is a fact. That someone, as Secretary of State, could stand over the flag-draped coffins of four Americans and lie to their families as to the cause of their death is reprehensible. She doesn't need to be facing the voters; she needs to be facing a grand jury.

Fabi म्हणाले...

Granny Clinton ain't in no ways tarred.

David म्हणाले...

"And so attention will be lavished on the problem of Hillary's bad judgment and bad policy in the Middle East and the cost in human life."

This is why I like Trump. We needed a Trump when her husband was ignoring the Rwandan genocide, which may have killed 1,000,000. Come to think of it, Hillary didn't say much about that then (or now) either.

cubanbob म्हणाले...

Melissa your lengthy comment is really aimed at convincing yourself that Hillary isn't what she really is: a grifter, liar, criminal and incompetent. There is no way to explain away her conduct as a cabinet officer and her past scandals. A rehydrated turd stinks as much as a fresh turd. Trump as you describe him is a pretty accurate depiction of Hillary as well. I doubt that Trump will be the nominee but even if he is at least he won't flagrantly won't jeopardize national security as Hillary did. Hillary needs to win to stay out of jail. Trump doesn't.

Writ Small म्हणाले...

Trump told us he couldn't remember the disabled reporter he mocked by holding his hands at a right angle to his arms, shaking about and saying "You've got to see this guy!" This despite the fact the the New York reporter had been on a first name basis with Trump for years and had interviewed him privately and as part of a press pack over a dozen times.

When called on it, Trump's response was not to apologize, but to say "Despite having one of the all-time great memories, I certainly do not remember him."

Some accepted Trump's denial at face value, but for those who did, does Trump's rather accurate mockery of Clinton's hand motions give you any pause? Trump's imitation of the disabled reporter's movements was very different from his imitation of Clinton's. But it was equally accurate.

Etienne म्हणाले...

The Godfather said......And Reagan was (almost) 70.

...and had no clue what Ollie North was up to. In bed by 7, up at 9.

Nancy already bought three dresses in NYC, and back by the time he got out of his pajamas.

sdharms म्हणाले...

maybe he doesn't get the number exactly right who cares? Why is not everyone APALLED that our system allows a CRIMINAL to run for Pre (Hillary). And people concentrate on whether Trump got a number right? If ONE Muslim celebrated in Jersey it was too many and SHE DID GET LOTS OF PEOPLE KILLED WHILE SEC STATE. I am not a Trump supporter but I do support him doing the IN YOUR FACE NON-PC stuff.

damikesc म्हणाले...

The refugee "crisis" is 100% Hillary and Obama. They OWN that.

Which means things like the Paris mass shootings...that's on them.

I go out of my way to be smile at and engage in conversation with Muslims waiting in line, etc. to ease their fears, and I sense the reverse as well.

So, before Trump, you were a rude asshole.

I'll note you haven't really changed. You're just a rude asshole who wants applause now.

Well John Henry, I think Bernie Sanders has the most energy and stamina than either Trump or Clinton.

Not having to think for 40 years likely is quite relaxing.

Drago म्हणाले...

Writ Small: "Some accepted Trump's denial at face value, but for those who did, does Trump's rather accurate mockery of Clinton's hand motions give you any pause?"

I take your point, but I would quibble about how memorable 1 reporter out of thousands might be vs the "somewhat larger" probability that Trump would be more familiar with that slightly more well known hillary.

grackle म्हणाले...

grackle, when I "misread" the tone, the last line was: "He should know theatrical"

I reminded Althouse about Hillary's imitation of Trump and then she put that it into the end of the post with additional comment. So, I was supposed to read her mind or guess that she had omitted something. Which is it?


Which is it? I screwed up and “misread” the post myself. That’s which it is. I should have noticed the “ADDED.” O the pitfalls of impulse! My apologies to the commentor.

mikee म्हणाले...

Well, if Althouse is gonna nit pick over the alleged deaths of "hundreds of thousands" versus say just one singular hundred thousand, or perhaps only tens of thousands, killed by the idiocy of Obama's policies implemented under SecState Hillary, then Althouse is just arguing about the price of the hooker, having already conceded that the woman in questions is one.

That Hillary's tenure as SecState led to failed states from Libya to Afghanistan to southern Africa. is not in question. If hundreds of thousands are not yet dead from her failure to confront the enemies of civilization, they will be sooner because of her inactions and failed policies.