The first email, dated Oct. 12, showed a woman engaged in a sex act with a man in one of the public spaces of the club, Tiger Inn. It was sent out by Adam Krop, the club’s vice president, to all the names on a club-wide mailing list, and it was accompanied by a crude joke and a reference to the woman as an “Asian chick.”
Later that night Andrew Hoffenberg, the treasurer, sent an email to the same list regarding a lecture by the Princeton alumna whose lawsuit forced eating clubs to admit women. “Ever wonder who we have to thank (blame) for gender equality,” the email began. “Looking for someone to blame for the influx of girls? Come tomorrow and help boo Sally Frank.”
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"Princeton Eating Club Ousts 2 Officers Over Emails Ridiculing Women."
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Eating Disorder: The Princeton Eating Club vomits out two officers.
Sally Frank, class of '80, who filed her suit against the men-only clubs 11 years ago, said: ''I am thrilled. I feel very vindicated that the court has established that the discrimination that is so overt and obvious at Princeton should not be allowed.
''I always thought we would win, but I never thought how old I would be when it happened - I've spent one third of my life on this,'' said Ms. Frank, a 31-year-old professor at the New York University Law School in Manhattan.
So much for all those layers of editors and fact checkers at the NYT. Tough to be Class of 80, if you weren't born till 83.
Good.
The guy who emailed the photo of the blow job (?) ought to be fired for stupidity, among other things. What a jerk.
As for booing Sally Frank, it's a little late for that.
Fours years at Princeton and still adolescents. Seems about right.
The best and the brightest.
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a reference to the woman as an “Asian chick.”
Are you seriously not allowed to say 'asian chick'?
Also, if you are having sex in public you are pretty much inviting comment, negative or positive.
The problem with 'Asian chicks': you get a blowjob from one and an hour later you're horny again.
I am Laslo.
I'd have to see the email before I can form an opinion.
We want to be a part of your eating club!
Ewww, yuck, look at how yucky these men are, whose club we've demanded to join!
Makes sense to me.
That club has gotten to be a lot of fun since it allowed women to become members.
"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."
-Groucho Marx
I am a member of a once all male club. We voted to allow women as members and reconfigured the club to add female locker rooms, showers, bathrooms, powder rooms. Great expense. When they began to use the club they were disappointed to learn that big business deals were not being done in the bar, in the dining room, in the steam rooms or gym. They found, to their disgust, that it was just a group of men enjoying each other's company and sharing some good cheer and spirits.
They don't come around much any more.
Women are special snowflakes due considerations not due to men.
Feminists call this gender double standard "equality".
@Shanna, of course you're allowed to say "Asian chick" at Princeton. It's the official policy of each and every one of the Ivy League schools that it's perfectly okay to target Asians for discrimination.
Also, the term "Jap" is okay in an Ivy League school if it refers to someone of Japanese extraction, no matter how long their family has lived in the United States, however "JAP" is a forbidden word if it is an acronym for Jewish-American Princess.
Hope this clarifies things for you.
PS: The above is probably true at Wisconsin, too, which is deeply caught up in Ivy League envy except on Saturdays in the fall.
Drill GT has it right. And of course if Ms.Frank were in the class of '80, one wonders why she waited 23 years after graduation to file her law suit (filed the law suit only 11 years ago).
I tell you, the Grey Lady has legions of fact checkers, proof readers etc. Or so they tell us.
Good thing is wasn't some republican flunkies or there would be 9/11 style media coverage.
madAsHell said...
"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."
-Groucho Marx
"I'm kinda that way about women."
-Woody Allen
They were probably right to dump the first guy, but the second one is pure view-point discrimination. He did nothing wrong, he just had an unpopular opinion.
Umm, no.
The date on the article within the article is 1990, so Ms. Frank was born in 1959, and the suit was filed in 1979.
Slut shaming poor Adam Krop, can you imagine? Some viewpoint discrimination is more acceptable than other, of course--if Mr. Hoffenberg had directed scorn at, say, Sarah Palin I doubt he'd have been booted. Poor target selection, buddy.
I have decided not to weep for Princetonians learning valuable lessons--but I might shed a tear for the state of journalism today, given that THIS appeared in the NYTimes when so, so many things have not...
" “a slate of officers that is more balanced by gender”
That should solve all the problems.
My daughter called me today. She is walking around trying to get over a screaming episode the woman she works for had this morning. She wants to move back to Orange County but decided to wait until after the year end because it is so busy this time of year.
This morning, the woman, that she didn't want to leave behind at a busy time, grabbed her and screamed at her complaining, "I am so stressed out !" This was in full view and hearing of the office staff.
Women are such wonderful team members.
It will be nice to have my daughter close again and the woman will wonder why she left that job.
Fortunately, these students when graduating will encounter a world where this kind of thing never happens. So it's not like they have to learn to roll with it/endure it.
Alumnus here (Class of 2004). I didn't bicker Tiger Inn, though I had many friends who did and became members. Based on their anecdotes and my own experience, this episode is quite tame compared to the typical Tuesday night shenanigans at TI.
If you are having sex in a "public space" of a private club, do you have a legitimate expectation that your activities will not be shared with the club membership, even, or especially, in New Jersey? (This applies to both male and female participants.)
I can't believe someone made a crude joke about someone having sex in public!
Wouldn't the second guy's email be vindicated by his ouster?
This is the part where I feel like an Aspergers-bordering-on-Autism fool:
1) If men want to have men-only clubs, by all means let them. But...
2) Why, oh why would you want to go to a place without women?
I'm seriously missing something here.
What's an eating club?
remember: women are allowed their women only conferences, clubs, groups, retreats, etc.
Men must throw their privacy and freedom of association aside at the first demand.
What's an eating club?
It's essentially a fraternal gathering group without Greek letters. Based on the British OxBridge tradition of communal dining clubs. Students would eat communally within their college at university, but would join a "dining club," usually centered around a particular establishment that would cater to their baser instincts.
How is it possible to insult an exhibitionist slut?
I wonder if she owns a pair of "lewinskys" (ie Knee pads as used by carpet installers and some White House interns under/below Democrat Presidents)!
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