“The one thing she could have done, the one tool she had at her disposal, she didn’t use. And nobody can say she wasn’t urged to do it. It’s gross hypocrisy,” said a former senior U.S. official who was involved in the debate. “The FBI, the CIA, and the Justice Department really wanted Boko Haram designated, they wanted the authorities that would provide to go after them, and they voiced that repeatedly to elected officials.”
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"The State Department under Hillary Clinton fought hard against placing the al Qaeda-linked militant group Boko Haram on its official list of foreign terrorist organizations for two years."
"And now, lawmakers and former U.S. officials are saying that the decision may have hampered the American government’s ability to confront the Nigerian group that shocked the world by abducting hundreds of innocent girls," says The Daily Beast.
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That Monica timing is awfully convenient. Watch out for another flying shoe heading Hillary's way.
I kind of want to know the reasoning why they didn't want them on the list.
There are lots of bad groups out there that aren't on the list. It may just be that, at the time, they were bad, but not bad enough.
You know the best way for us to solve this?
Transparency.
Hey man. What's the big deal?
It was just a bunch of cracks black african muslim pals whacking and burning and murdering and selling into sex slavery Christian kids.
I mean, the only surprise is that the obama admin didn't want to hand over cash and services to them.
Oh wait: http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/377543/obama-administration-advocated-social-justice-response-boko-haram-jim-geraghty
So, who's the big fan of pan-African Islam at the Federal level then? Hillary doesn't make much sense.
If she could only come clean...
Why the hell wouldn't someone label Boko Haram a terrorist organization?
How about we come up with another organizational label --- Internationally Recognized Batshit Crazy Organization (IRBCO)? And, just so we prove it's not all about bad-mouthing the Muzzies, we'll be happy to include, just for sake of being ecumenical in our choice of religious nut jobs, the Lord's Resistance Army at no extra cost!
"It was just a bunch of cracks black african muslim pals whacking and burning and murdering and selling into sex slavery Christian kids."
A bit like Bill Clinton's reaction to the Rwanda genocide. Nothing.
At this point, what differences does it make?
This is the exact same argument that Hilary made on the Benghazi hearing.
Maybe Huma knows why?
Never mind what happened a couple of years ago. Hillary has since forcefully tweeted to #BringBackOurGirls. She even used a couple of strategic exclamation points!
She can add this to her otherwise vacant list of accomplishments.
On second thought, maybe accomplishment is not the correct term.
This is too easy: Islamic terrorism was on the run. Remember? That was one of Obama's main campaign fabrications. Thus it wouldn't do to be classifying more groups, especially Islamic terrorism groups, as terrorists.
This is interesting: In 2012, more than 20 prominent U.S. academics in African studies wrote to Clinton, urging her to not to label Boko Haram as a foreign terrorist organization.
http://tinyurl.com/6tm85uq
A couple of the reasons the academics wanted Hillary to refrain from the designation of the Islamic terrorist group as a terrorist group:
Should Boko Haram be designated an FTO through this regime, it would be illegal for non - governmental organizations to interact with members of Boko Haram – even if the purpose of such contact was to persuade them to renounce violence.
Can anyone site an example of an Islamic terrorist group that has ever been persuaded to "renounce violence?" Me neither.
An FTO designation would prevent independent scholarly inquiry about Boko Haram, and increase suspicion in the future about researchers ....
Aww. Poor fellows. Now they are not going to be able to study these murderers. Idiots in academia.
I just think the Clinton's don't like blacks. Bill use didn't care about Rwanda. Maybe it is because they can't vote in US elections.
When they slit the throats of 50 young boys a month or two ago, there was nary a ripple in the press, but let them kidnap girls....
So if Hillary augers in, who might emerge as the Dem's Hillary alternative for 2016?
It will have to be someone who didn't vote for Obamacare, a state governor for example, and who can position themselves as a moderate centrist.
If the Republicans take both houses, a Democrat will have a really great shot. The last three Democrat Presidents were relative unknowns.
Remember when Obama was trying to sell the idea to Africans that Islamic terrorists were racist?
I guess that wasn't a great dissuader.
Drago said...
"I mean, the only surprise is that the obama admin didn't want to hand over cash and services to them.
Oh wait..."
Right you are Drago.
Anyone interested in Obama's take on Boko Haram in 2013 while speaking in Africa can go to: http://weaselzippers.us/146850-obama-blames-rise-of-nigerian-jihadist-group-boko-haram-on-bad-governance/
The left reduces all human conflict to poverty or more recently race warfare. Since Boko Haram is black on black crime the only intellectual lever left is poverty. That's exactly where Obama goes beginning at 8:11 on the video. He does later mention religious ideology in passing but does not give it much weight.
There is no place in this world for those who would slander Allah.
Her boss said so.
Get off Hillary's back. She's just demonstrating loyalty - a virtue.
Grackle @4:25,
Agreed.
It all makes sense in their living room as long as the offcampus world need not be factored in (too many uncontrolled variables so assume they cancel each other out).
No one is a stupid as an academic (or indeed other professionals) authoritatively opining beyond their narrow area of expertise. However, if this IS their purported area of expertise, then all the worse.
Wouldn't it be funny if Hillary were actually elected President?
Abortion/murder. They don't care. Not about black or white Africans, or black or white Americans.
Clinton: Sacrificial lamb? This Democrat civil war began in 2008 when the Obama faction sabotaged the Clinton faction.
"YoungHegelian said...
Why the hell wouldn't someone label Boko Haram a terrorist organization?"
Because there is no Aq or terrorism in Africa. Obama said so. Clinton said so. They gottum on the run.
So why would she fight against the classification?
The only suggestion is buried deep in the article. It's the notion that designation would have been counterproductive by highlighting the group.
There is a ton of money to be made in Nigeria, with all that oil and the big consumer market. Follow that money and you might find some more reasons she opposed this.
Dude, what diff does it make?
Prof and Every-one.
Read me now and accept this later.
The next POTUS is Hillary!
The next VPOTUS is Martin O'Malley.
Why is Hillary the winner?
Because:
- NYT/PBS/NPR/MSNBC want her.
- Because GOP has no vision.
- And, GOP has no love for immigrants.
- And more, GOP has no diversity in their party.
Ergo: Hillary is the next POTUS.
Q.E.D.
I guess this is one of Hillary's many "achievements" at State.
It's VE Day, people.
May 8, 1945.
Consistent with her other achievements as the World's Most Accomplished Woman In The World (WMAITW)(tm).
@grackle, thanks for the pointer. What struck me when I looked up the individual signatories was how white they are. Not uniformly pale-skinned (there are three female African-American professors plus a dark-skinned woman from central Asia), but mostly.
I wonder how some of them would feel about their own children kidnapped and sold. Sitting in their ivory towers and shielded by American soldiers and law enforcement, they don't have to worry.
(1) So which recent President helped Africa more than any (Don't take my word for it. Ask Bob Geldorf.)? W.
Who does the Left hate more than anyone in the world and could only attract 3% of black voters? W.
Who has a long track record of ignoring Africa's problems (Rwanda to Boko Haram)? The Clintons.
Who does the Left love and has attracted and will in the future draw 90+% of black voters? The Clintons.
Go on.
Explain that one.
Because they target Catholic Churches and bomb them during Christmas Mass.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9BJ14A20131220?irpc=932
Nigerian court sentenced a member of Islamist group Boko Haram to life imprisonment on Friday for his involvement in bombings including a 2011 Christmas Day attack on a Catholic church near the capital that killed 37 people.
The militant group Boko Haram claimed responsibility for the bombing of St. Theresa Catholic Church in Madalla, on the outskirts of Abuja, which also wounded 57 in the deadliest of a series of attacks at Christmas.
They have killed thousands targeted Christians.
Americas Politico: "Read me now and accept this later."
Great Hans and Franz paraphrase!
A key regime talking point is that Islamic terrorism has been defeated. thus the Party cannot add new Muslim groups, even one named
Congregation of the People of Tradition for Proselytism and Jihad[2][3] (Arabic: جماعة اهل السنة للدعوة والجهاد Jamāʻat Ahl as-Sunnah lid-daʻwa wal-Jihād)—better known by its Hausa name Boko Haram (pronounced [bōːkòː hàrâm])[4][5]—is an Islamic group and takfiri militant and terrorist organization based in the northeast of Nigeria,[6] north Cameroon and Niger.[7][8][9][10
the actual Arabic name of the group never shows up in Party media, does it?
Pres Urkel and Secy Thunderthighs only sought to surrender to Muslim groups, not oppose them.
It was Bill's influence. He thought they were a Boca Harem.
Not to worry. The kidnappings, rapes, murder and slavery are simply are not kidnapping kidnappings, rape rapes, murder murders or slavery slavery.
We know this from our many interactions with the lefties.
By the way, it now appears that obama provided weapons to the muslim radicals in libya and, thus, to boko haram which are being used to kill christian kids.
From a lefty perspective, win-win.
This bitch pretty much gets it all wrong doesn't she?
It's all good, she can just make a sign and hashtag, and everything should be just fine.
"It will have to be someone who didn't vote for Obamacare, a state governor for example,"
O'Malley, the Maryland governor, has been mentioned. I think he is a creep but Democrats are very different.
Would you call this an unforced error, or a self-inflicted gunshot wound?
CNN Worries Hillary Clinton May Have Jeopardized Run with Gun Control Statements . . .
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/05/07/CNN-Worries-Hillary-Clinton-May-Have-Jeopardized-Run-With-Gun-Control-Statements
I'll say it: War on women.
In 2012, more than 20 prominent U.S. academics in African studies wrote to Clinton, urging her to not to label Boko Haram as a foreign terrorist organization.
These prominent U.S. academics are as complicit in this kidnapping as if they had wielded the guns themselves. Let's make sure their names and the institutions they represent are not forgotten:
A. Carl LeVan
American University
Peter M. Lewis
Johns Hopkins University
Jean Herskovits
SUNY – Purchase
Daniel J. Smith
Brown University
Adrienne LeBas
American University
R. Kiki Edozie
Michigan State University
Brandon Kendhammer
Ohio University
Susan Shepler
American University
John Campbell
Council on Foreign Relations
David Dwyer
Michigan State University
Paul Lubeck
University of California – Santa Cruz
Pearl Robinson
Tufts University
Darren Kew
University of Massachusetts – Boston
Clarence Lusane
American University
Laura Thaut
University of Minnesota – Minneapolis
Nicolas van de Walle
Cornell University
Judith Byfield
Cornell University
Susan M. O’Brien
University of Florida
John Paden
George Mason University
Deborah Brautigam
Johns Hopkins University
Michael Watts
University of California – Berkeley
David Laitin
Stanford University
David Wiley
Michigan State University
Shobana Shankar
Georgetown University
Sandra T. Barnes
University of Pennsylvania
How dare you think this. Hillary was the bestest ever Secretary of State.
The girls were kidnapped more than three weeks ago. Many of them have already been sold into 'marriage/slavery.' WHY has our government waited so long to take any action? Did they have to wait until it was trending on twitter?
My theory is that one of their big-money donors wanted something done. That's the only thing that matters, the perpetual campaign.
The pattern of stubbornly doing the wrong thing every time. is Hillary's record.
When Ideology idolatry is coupled with a belief that the ideology makes you right when you are actually wrong the result is sickening.
I blame the Clinton Media for enabling the damages they do.
The democrats do not have an answer for Jihadi terrorism. They actually seem to resent having to deal with it.
War on women.
O'Malley is a gun grabber. That may play well in the Socialist State of Maryland, but not in the rest of the nation.
If this somehow has legs to derail Hillary, it will be ironic that the woman who has been trying to be the first female President for so long will have had her dreams dashed twice by women-hating Islamic terrorists (the first time being OBL, since I don't think she casts the vote for the Iraq war that cost her the 2008 nomination if not for 9/11).
Grackle;
"This is interesting: In 2012, more than 20 prominent U.S. academics in African studies wrote to Clinton, urging her to not to label Boko Haram as a foreign terrorist organization."
I wonder how many of those "prominents" would like to designate the Catholic Church as a terrorist organization (see "UN committe on torture")
And here comes Greg with blacklisting people. Gotta love republicans.. They set such a wonderful example.
Time to start making lists people. Better hope you are not on one!
All that griping about Brendan Eich last month and here you are making lists of people to hate on ...
On February 25th Boko Haram slashed, shot, and burned to death 59 boys at a boarding school. There was no outrage in the American media. There was no criticism of Hillary Clinton, nor of the Obama administration.
Because the murders of boys doesn't matter. Especially black Christian boys in Nigeria. Outrage is reserved for harm done to girls.
The academics listed above and others in the Obama administration who are like them are beyond immoral.
Mark said...
And here comes Greg with blacklisting people. Gotta love republicans.. They set such a wonderful example.
Yes, because putting a tenured professor's name in a blog comment is blacklisting. They will never work again!
You are consistently a fucking putz.
And here comes Greg with blacklisting people.
Oh no, you're indulging in Leftist projection. And how could I "blacklist" anyone? They're all tenured types.
All I did was to name the prominent U.S. academics who had a role in this atrocity. They wanted to exert influence. Well, the result of the influence they exerted has been schoolgirls kidnapped and sold into slavery. Accountability is to the academy as sunrise is to vampires.
Strelnikov said...
(1) So which recent President helped Africa more than any (Don't take my word for it. Ask Bob Geldorf.)? W.
Who does the Left hate more than anyone in the world and could only attract 3% of black voters? W.
Who has a long track record of ignoring Africa's problems (Rwanda to Boko Haram)? The Clintons.
Who does the Left love and has attracted and will in the future draw 90+% of black voters? The Clintons.
Go on.
Explain that one.
Perhaps most American blacks don't really care that much about Africa. Money that goes to Africa is money that doesn't go to them.
If poverty causes crime and terrorism, why were the people subsisting on 17-18th century Norwegian mountain farms, where "in cold years little or nothing is harvested," and they would grind up tree bark to mix with the flour to make it last through the winter, some of the most peaceable and crime-free citizens in the world?
Ooooo, Blacklisting. Bring out the name-calling, Mark.
THEY SIGNED THE LETTER. This is not something they were doing in their bedrooms between consenting adults.
I'll bet you also think that Joe McCarthy was associated with the House Committee on Unamerican Activities.
You do realize that every hateful thing said about gay marriage, recorded for public consumption on the internet, is just looming .... Right?
Are you really sure this is the path you want to go? Naming private individuals for public disapproval?
Keep making it worse for yourself when your time comes. Everyone's time does.
@garage, well one of signatories -- Jean Herskovits -- actually wrote an Op-Ed for the New York Times titled "In Nigeria, Boko Haram Is Not the Problem." Right now the kidnapped girls would beg to differ.
Mark: "And here comes Greg with blacklisting people. Gotta love republicans.. They set such a wonderful example.
Time to start making lists people. Better hope you are not on one!"
LOL
Mark is a perfect example of a brain-dead lefty.
Note: Lefty academics get together and publish a statement which actually "helps", in at least a rhetorical way, a radical murderous backwards black-african islamist movement.
The academics then sign this statement and make it public via submitting it to a public official.
Conservatives happen to notice this.
Lefty Mark: conservatives are blacklisting academics!!!
LOL
Thanks for playing Mark.
Mark: "Time to start making lists people."
We already know which side is the one making lists. And acting upon it.
Tea Party lists.
Issue advocacy groups who happen to align with Scott Walker.
Contributors to traditional marriage who have their names illegally released by the IRS to lefty activist groups.
Conservatives/republicans/non-dems who somehow get invited to speak on college campus'.
Yes Mark, we are all well aware by now of who is making enemy lists (Hillary!) and who is acting upon it.
You lack of self-awareness is right up there at garage-DEFCON 1-level lack of stupidity.
Congrats.
You've certainly earned it.
And I'm always one to give credit where credit is due.
That's just how I roll "dawg".
Mark (of the wet revenge dreams) says;
"You do realize that every hateful thing said about gay marriage, recorded for public consumption on the internet, is just looming .... Right?"
Selling girls into slavery is less worse than disagreeing with the gheys. And people can't understand what happened to Germany after WW one.
Mark said...
"Are you really sure this is the path you want to go? Naming private individuals for public disapproval?"
Umm. Those retards published their own names on a document that helped support murders, rapists, and slave traders.
Pointing out that THEY signed a document that THEY published is a Republican evil? Whatever.
Grow up.
Sorry, garage, I should have started off "@Mark." I must have been thinking about you from some other thread.
@Mark, you are correct that everybody's time does come. Your time is now, I think. But white male academics safely ensconsed in their ivory towers and shielded behind layers of US military and law enforcement to protect them have, I believe, a responsibility to think about people more vulnerable than themselves.
Tom Wolfe's Radical Chic has never gone out of print, nor lost its relevance.
What curious george said at 7:05 AM
@Mark: What an inapt, inept, and odious comparison to make for exactly the reason george stated.
No wonder the left is so defensive of their monopoly in the academy.
List not, lest ye be listed
Is that what you're trying to say, Mark?
"The girls were kidnapped more than three weeks ago. Many of them have already been sold into 'marriage/slavery.' WHY has our government waited so long to take any action? Did they have to wait until it was trending on twitter?"
Because it's none of our fucking business.
Strelnikov:
Can you imagine if we went after everyone who committed abortion/murder, rape-rape, abduction, etc.? The impossible dream. At best, we can encourage people to adopt a suitable moral philosophy and to enforce common (i.e. non-selective) standards of conduct.
That said, if people are looking for a similar outrage, they don't have to wander far. Not only are there causes in America; but, we have our neighbors, notably to the South, who offer plenty of reasons to voice our discontent.
Tom Wolfe's "Radical Chic," one of the books that pointed me toward a new direction.
Another, by John Updike, who happened to have a mutual dislike with Wolfe - "The Carpentered Hen." It made me realize that I actually liked poetry.
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