Althouse: After 21 hours, Ted Cruz is cut off by Harry Reid, who says "I don't think we learned anything new, but it has been a big waste of time."

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After 21 hours, Ted Cruz is cut off by Harry Reid, who says "I don't think we learned anything new, but it has been a big waste of time."

Reid portrays what Cruz did as the notion that "any day that government is hurt is a good day" and calls that notion Tea Party and "the new anarchy."

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Big Mike म्हणाले...: Reid doesn't get it, does he?

Ted Cruz was speaking for me, and for everybody else who will be paying substantially more for significantly less healthcare service under Obama's abomination.; २५/९/१३, ११:३६ AM
Henry म्हणाले...: Your quote has some confused punctuation.

Reid said that "any day that government is hurt is a good day" for the Tea Party. Reid called it "the new anarchy."

Reid seems to have stumbled across an insight, though his anthropomorphizing of government is just pathetic.

My question is this: What was the old anarchy?; २५/९/१३, ११:३७ AM
YoungHegelian म्हणाले...: What's with this spate of Demos calling the Tea Party Anarchists? Why I'm so old that I remember when the Left actually liked Anarchists. When there was the romance in the air that it would be possible to skip past the dictatorship of the proletariat, and go straight to the withering of the state, "bypassing the middle commie", to coin a phrase. And now, 1930s Catalonia --- a Tea Party hotbed! No wonder both the Falangists & the Commies hated 'em! Sacco & Vanzetti --- No longer martyrs to the cause! Who's gonna break the news to poor ole' Joan Baez? "Anarcho-Syndicalist" Noam Chomsky? Tea Party dupe, more likely! And who amongst us can ever forget the searing image of the ghost of Prince Alexander Kropotkin holding the Gadsden Flag behind that poor Tea Party lady from Wetumpka, Alabama as she testified to the IRS targeting her organization?; २५/९/१३, ११:३८ AM
Matt Sablan म्हणाले...: Wow. Something Reid and I agree on. I wonder how Reid responded to the Wendy Davis waste of time speech.

Oh. So it is just partisanship on Reid's side, and not a real commitment to not wasting time or learning things. So, sad to know Reid and I reached those decisions through different thought processes.

As for rooting for a shutdown: Tell the president to come to the negotiating table if he's worried. So far, Reid and Obama have shown about the same level of concern about a shutdown as those on the right.; २५/९/१३, ११:४१ AM
Matt Sablan म्हणाले...: ... Wait, Reid wasn't even on the floor part of this? How does he know we learned nothing if he didn't at least listen? I'm just snarkily shooting off, but I expect the Senate majority leader to at least have PRETENDED to care about the issue of the day.; २५/९/१३, ११:४४ AM
paminwi म्हणाले...: I must be an anarchist since I mostly support the Tea Party. I must also be a racist since Harry baby has said that Tea Partiers are also racist. My goodness, in my old age I have never been called so many names! Isn't that bullying?

I want to go on record and say YEAH Ted Cruz!; २५/९/१३, ११:४९ AM
paminwi म्हणाले...: I must be an anarchist since I mostly support the Tea Party. I must also be a racist since Harry baby has said that Tea Partiers are also racist. My goodness, in my old age I have never been called so many names! Isn't that bullying?

I want to go on record and say YEAH Ted Cruz!; २५/९/१३, ११:४९ AM
Bob R म्हणाले...: Harry Reid is what I imagine the Pat Geary character would have turned into if he had aged poorly and gotten even more corrupt. You can say what you want about Cruz's tactics, but the more Reid is in the spotlight, the worse it is for team blue.; २५/९/१३, ११:५३ AM
ajs म्हणाले...: Sen. Reid (who has a long history of ridiculous and incendiary comments) needs to stop calling Republicans anarchists over and over. He's the Senate majority leader, not some flame-throwing backbencher.

Does he know what an anarchist even is? Some of his friends in the "Occupy" movement come to mind.; २५/९/१३, ११:५६ AM
Ann Althouse म्हणाले...: "Your quote has some confused punctuation."

No, it doesn't.

I'm using "Tea Party" as an adjective.

You can accuse me of lack of parallelism if you want.

I'm saying Reid calls the notion Tea Party and anarchy.

The notion is (the sort of thing the) Tea Party (believes)... and the notion is anarchy.; २५/९/१३, १२:०० PM
Illuninati म्हणाले...: I didn't know that the purpose of a filibuster is to teach Harry Reid. If the only reason to filibuster is to teach Harry something, then why yes, of course it is a waste of time. Harry Reid is long past the point where he can learn.

Althouse said:
"Reid portrays what Cruz did as the notion that "any day that government is hurt is a good day" and calls that Tea Party and "the new anarchy.""

Harry Reid doesn't need help damaging the government, he has done enough damage to the government all by himself. The anarchy statement is so far out in left field it doesn't even compute. It is typical left wing goblygook.; २५/९/१३, १२:११ PM
Hagar म्हणाले...: Obamacare - or the parts of it that will manage to be implemented - will be a slow-motion trainwreck for some time to come, and Ted Cruz will be remembered for having spoken out against it.

It will not be sticking to those ostrich skin boots of his, so no, it was not "a vaste of time.".; २५/९/१३, १२:१४ PM
MartyH म्हणाले...: Reid's the one who's been wasting time. He should have been passing fixes to Obamacare as glitches have been pointed out. Even if the House does not pass these fixes, he is signalling willingness to improve Obamacare. By not passing or even proposing fixes, he and the rest of the Democrats are signalling a preference for leaving Obamacare unchanged.; २५/९/१३, १२:२१ PM
David म्हणाले...: Advantage: Reid!

Short and pithy wins every time.

Sorry Senator Cruz.; २५/९/१३, १२:२३ PM
Henry म्हणाले...: I'm using "Tea Party" as an adjective.

Ah. I thought you might have scraped the quote from a news feed and it came in garbled inadvertently.; २५/९/१३, १२:२५ PM
Meade म्हणाले...: Ted Cruz represents the democratic wing of the Republican Party.; २५/९/१३, १२:२९ PM
Tyrone Slothrop म्हणाले...: Reid is whistling past the graveyard. He, and the establishment Republicans who have been slipping oppo points to Chris Wallace, are terrified of the Tea Party. The Senate, red and blue, have been ignoring the people they represent for a long time. With Cruz at the podium, Reid can see his comeuppance growing much closer.; २५/९/१३, १२:२९ PM
MayBee म्हणाले...: You ever notice that when Code a Pink does their protests, people on the left make (I'm thinking Obama and Kerry here) make a point to mention how valid it is to have different opinions?

But boy, dare to have a right- leaning opinion and your representative will be called all kinds of names by Dems in power.

Reid realizes the bill is unpopular, right? And that Cruz represents real citizens with real concern? Why can't that be acknowledged?; २५/९/१३, १२:४१ PM
Larry J म्हणाले...: I long for the day when Republicans win control of the Senate and get to treat Reid and the other Democrats exactly the same as they've treated Republicans.; २५/९/१३, १२:४५ PM
Ann Althouse म्हणाले...: "Ah. I thought you might have scraped the quote from a news feed and it came in garbled inadvertently."

No, I garbled it myself for your reading difficulty. I'm blogging from behind and your confusion is part of my strategy.; २५/९/१३, १२:४७ PM
Ann Althouse म्हणाले...: I've inserted a second "notion" in the sentence to make it easier to read.

The "that" was hard to "hear" in your head the way I wanted to "say" it.; २५/९/१३, १२:५२ PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...: I think Reid should go fuck himself.

Pathetic leftwing racial dictator that he is....; २५/९/१३, १२:५४ PM
machine म्हणाले...: Don't forget this:

Rep. Peter King (R-NY) is no fan of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), as the outspoken congressman made clear...

“My sound bite is to say he’s a fraud,” King told the Times. “I start with that, and then I go on. It takes me two or three minutes to explain it.”

Minutes later, according to the Times, King had a damning characterization of Cruz's effort to block funding for the health care law, which has raised the risk of a government shutdown. Cruz continued his quixotic campaign to defund Obamacare with a marathon floor speech...

“It is just a form of governmental terrorism," King said.; २५/९/१३, १:०० PM
victoria म्हणाले...: Larry, Republicans already had their chance, and they blew it as much as the democrats did. Remember the 90's? Government shut down? If you continue to force candidates like Cruz on the American public you will never, i mean never have a majority.

Vicki from Pasadena; २५/९/१३, १:०३ PM
n.n म्हणाले...: Reid supports Obamacare because it preserves the status quo, which is a fleecing of the People, and state-sponsored corruption.; २५/९/१३, १:०५ PM
mccullough म्हणाले...: Anarchy will be when young and healthy people by-pass insurance until they need it.; २५/९/१३, १:०६ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Wendy Davis was trying to stop a vote. What the heck was Cruz trying to do? Draw attention to himself and it worked. That was not a filibuster.; २५/९/१३, १:०७ PM
chickelit म्हणाले...: I get the meme from Reid that Cruz must now be destroyed or Alinsky'd but getting cheap shots from the wrong people isn't going to help.; २५/९/१३, १:१५ PM
machine म्हणाले...: Cruz: a vote for cloture is a vote to fund Obamacare!

Then he votes for cloture...

Such brave heroes; २५/९/१३, १:१५ PM
Sigivald म्हणाले...: You'd think that if a shutdown was so bad, Democrats could come up with a ... compromise budget that avoided it?

I realize that they seem to think (as, to be fair, any party in power seems to think) that "compromise" means "the other side comes around to my position", but ...; २५/९/१३, १:१७ PM
chickelit म्हणाले...: The mere optics of being "cut off" by Reid are what many Tea Party people will remember. He wasn't allowed to "stand as long as possible."

Oh and I think Ted Cruz' political career will long outlive Harry Reid's.; २५/९/१३, १:१९ PM
PH म्हणाले...: Regardless of where you stand on the issue of Obamacare, Ted Cruz has to be applauded for showing that he is not only passionate, but willing to back that passion up.; २५/९/१३, १:२० PM
Left Bank of the Charles म्हणाले...: Congress really only needs 3 weeks: 1 week for appointments and treaties in the Senate during which the House can hold oversight hearings, 1 week for civil and criminal legislation, and 1 week for the budget.

The rest is a waste of time.; २५/९/१३, १:४१ PM
cubanbob म्हणाले...: If the government shuts down does IRS stop collecting? One can hope.; २५/९/१३, १:४२ PM
SGT Ted म्हणाले...: So, wanting to repeal an unpopular law opposed by a majority of citizens is now "anarchy".

Reids been sniffing his own farts for far too long.; २५/९/१३, १:४७ PM
Annie म्हणाले...: Reid is exhibit A for term limits and no cadillac pensions. These corrupt career assholes need to keep a day job and only meet one week every two years. We would all be better off.; २५/९/१३, १:४९ PM
Annie म्हणाले...: And what Big Mike said in comment one.; २५/९/१३, १:४९ PM
victoria म्हणाले...: Please, Cruz is a sycophant and the only reason he 'filibustered" was to draw attention to himself, not the issues. At least Wendy davis was standing up for something and was trying to delay a vote.
Ted Cruz, ew!

vicki from pasadena; २५/९/१३, १:५८ PM
Larry J म्हणाले...: victoria said...
Larry, Republicans already had their chance, and they blew it as much as the democrats did. Remember the 90's? Government shut down? If you continue to force candidates like Cruz on the American public you will never, i mean never have a majority.

Yes, I remember when the Congress passed a budget, Clinton vetoed it and the Republicans were blamed for Clinton shutting down the government. I also remember how almost no one noticed that the government "shut down".

Last year, the Republicans played prevent defense with the budget. Their consultants assurred them that if they just went along to get along with Obama, Romney would not only win the presidency but Republicans would win control of the Senate. They were wrong on all counts when millions of Republican voters stayed home on election day.; २५/९/१३, २:०० PM
machine म्हणाले...: and the guy who ran for President saying the first thing he would do would be to repeal Obamacare suffered a convincing loss...

The election was all about Obamacare and it was a blowout...so much for an unpopular law opposed by a majority of citizens....

GOP lost and now wants to hold hostages...wah!; २५/९/१३, २:०८ PM
Kirk Parker म्हणाले...: Victoria,

"If you continue to force candidates like Cruz on the American public..."

LOL! ROFL!!!! That's one of the funniest lines I've read all day.

Oh, wait -- you meant it seriously???; २५/९/१३, ३:१६ PM
Kirk Parker म्हणाले...: (In case it's not obvious: Cruz is a candidate that the little guys forced on the party establishment.); २५/९/१३, ३:१६ PM
chickelit म्हणाले...: machine wrote: The election was all about Obamacare and it was a blowout...so much for an unpopular law opposed by a majority of citizens....

GOP lost and now wants to hold hostages...wah!

In a sense, the 2010 midterm was all about a retort to Obama's profligate spending. But silly partisans like machine believe that all branches of government and all Constitutional duties should be under the auspices of a single party, single payer.

Ein Volk
Eine Partei
Ein Zahler; २५/९/१३, ३:२५ PM
ajs म्हणाले...: Machine, how do you reconcile that with the fact that every poll since the ACA was enacted shows (growing) majorities opposed to it?; २५/९/१३, ३:३० PM
Bob Ellison म्हणाले...: I've been trying to understand leftists lately. (It's a hobby of mine.) They don't seem to believe in rules like the rule of law, or natural rights like freedom and such. They seem to be a different species from me, at least in our differential heads. They want power, I think, not rules.

What structure would a mind like Harry Reid's propose for a federal government?; २५/९/१३, ३:४९ PM
Drago म्हणाले...: Victoria: "Please, Cruz is a sycophant and the only reason he 'filibustered" was to draw attention to himself, not the issues."

Interesting.

"sycophant".

What powerful people is Ted Cruz praising in order to gain approval?; २५/९/१३, ४:०२ PM
Rumpletweezer म्हणाले...: This is the price we pay for having outlawed dueling. Harry Reid, if not dead by now, would be so scarred by the constant slapping with a glove that children would cry and run away from his hideousness.; २५/९/१३, ४:०६ PM
PB म्हणाले...: Harry is just a backroom sleaze who would never expend such a personal effort to speak his true thoughts in public.; २५/९/१३, ४:२० PM
grackle म्हणाले...: Ted Cruz represents the democratic wing of the Republican Party.

Yep.

Please, Cruz is a sycophant and the only reason he 'filibustered" was to draw attention to himself, not the issues.

Mind-reading is fun. Here's a fact: Cruz is fulfilling a campaign promise made to the folks who elected him. Turns out such behavior is kind of popular with voters. Other politicians might be better off taking notes.

http://tinyurl.com/k7xxbms; २५/९/१३, ४:४० PM
Robert Cook म्हणाले...: "What's with this spate of Demos calling the Tea Party Anarchists? Why I'm so old that I remember when the Left actually liked Anarchists."

What gives you the idea that the Democrats are "left?" What gives you the idea they are anything but a superficially "nicer" and somewhat less crazy Republican Party? Everyone in Washington, with rare exceptions, serves the prerogatives of Wall Street and the 1%.; २५/९/१३, ४:५६ PM
Kelly म्हणाले...: machine said, "the election was all about Obamacare". Really? I thought it was about the 49 percent and Mitt Romney killing some guys wife, and Ann Romney's horse, and Mitt Romneys dog. You know, all the important things voters stay up late into the night thinking about.; २५/९/१३, ५:१२ PM
gk1 म्हणाले...: I think I finally saw a Bridge over the River Kwai~ Colonel Nicholson moment today where the democrats have finally realized they can't run obamacare with less than half (the tax paying half) of the American public on board with it. The republicans will never give up trying to kill it or continually point out all the problems at every opportunity. The republican "base" wants this overturned and will search for candidates that want to kill it. Clumsy implementation will only excellerate its implosion.; २५/९/१३, ७:१८ PM
Big Mike म्हणाले...: @Rumpletweezer, children run away from him in fright even without dueling scars.; २५/९/१३, ८:०९ PM
jr565 म्हणाले...: What Ted did was pointless, but leave it to Harry Reid to make me want to defend Ted Stevens. That Harry is one major douche.; २५/९/१३, ११:४५ PM
damikesc म्हणाले...: Rep. King. Isn't he, you know, comically corrupt?

And, machine, if you don't comprehend what Cruz was talking about in regards to cloture, why are you criticizing him?

@ Victoria --- Davis was standing up to sentence Texas women to horribly unclean abortion clinics. Infections, apparently, are the new feminism.; २६/९/१३, २:१३ PM
Bob Loblaw म्हणाले...: How many people would actually notice a government shutdown? Usually when they government "shuts down" they exempt all sorts of things like Social Security and military.; २६/९/१३, ३:५५ PM