“They were in the hallway after the, I guess after the celebration and hoopla ended, apparently these people broke for lunch and had a strategy meeting, which is, in every campaign I've been affiliated with, makes perfect sense,” says [Jacob Conway, who is on the executive committee of the Jefferson County Democratic Party]. “One of them held the elevator, the other one did the recording and they left. That was what they told to me from them directly.”
The meeting room door is next to the elevators on that floor. McConnell campaign manager Jesse Benton has told multiple media outlets the door was shut and locked on Feb. 2. But the door has a vent at the bottom and a large gap underneath....
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Who secretly recorded the McConnell campaign?
A "longtime local Democratic operative" accuses "leaders of the Progress Kentucky super PAC" of what is, apparently, a felony.
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Nothing to see here, move along, move along....
lol. It's cute how some people think justice still applies in the Obama age.
Enjoy the decline, shitheads!
Remember - "How dare you!" [laugh at our dear meek Hollywood starlet who plans to run against you]
... trumps illegally recording somebody without their consent.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Kentucky law says it is a felony “to overhear, record amplify or transmit any part of a wire or oral communication of others without the consent of at least one party thereto by means of any electric, mechanical or other device."
I am unfamiliar with the law in this area. How does this jibe with investigative journalism for example? Can a journalist go somewhere with a hidden camera and record a conversation he had?
But the door has a vent at the bottom and a large gap underneath...
Would that be an 18 1/2 mm gap?
I call bullshit on "we heard it from the hallway."
Doesn't that make Corn and the rest of the Lefties at MoJo accessories?
Perhaps the GOP will wake up to the fact that the left's spies are everywhere, and perhaps take note.
Free speech and private strategy sessions? Forget it. You are under surveillance by the left.
so no one noticed people stooping down for a long period of time?
Great security in that building.
Set a cell phone to record. Set it next to the gap in the door, perhaps behind a plant or broom or something.
This ain't James Bond level snooping.
Is that McConnell's official picture going along with that story? He needs a better one. If that's the best he can do, then Wow.
The Republican party is known as the stupid party but we have to realized that the liberal media controls the spin, they control what is reported to the voters and what isn't reported. The corrupt unscrupulous liberal media discovered just how powerful they are having destroyed George Bush and Sarah Palin's reputations. They control the narrative and they are relentless so I predict this will hurt McConnell.
Would that be an 18 1/2 mm gap?
Winner.
But remember, it's neurosurgeon Ben Carson who is indecent.
At least Ashley Judd is right-thinking. She should give the commencement at Johns Hopkins.
Maybe Shug, her psychological support dog, can help write it.
If I were an editor at The National Enquirer, I sure would have two, three, or four reporters sniffing around D.C. looking for dirt on White House employees.
I can't think of any other news organization that's got the balls for it. Or the tough reporters. Enquirer used to have the best people in the business--mostly Australians.
Chris Matthews has assured us that no illegality occurred.
They control the narrative and they are relentless so I predict this will hurt McConnell.
This is why Corn released the transcripts. He knows it will reinforce the 'GOP war on women" meme the WH and the D's have been pushing, and any legal or ethical fallout will be soft-peddled by the media.
No one should have any doubt that similar tactics were discussed by the D's who are after McConnell's seat. The headlines, though, will emphasize that McConnell, old white guy, said mean things about a woman whom other women will consider a sympathetic character.
Imagine what a recording of a D strategy session in 2008 re Sarah Palin would have revealed.
AprilA...yup. I had no problem with Romeny's 47% comment. Actually it is true. But the point is, its not just trackers following you and recording every public event, waiting for a "macaca" moment. But now it is even at private events. Small gatherings closed to the public.
Although this case is a little different as it was in a private office, with no outsiders there. I guess now the next step is to look out the door before the meeting starts.
dreams, remember. When conservatives get an internal email (such as on Global Warming) that shows fraud, those are "stolen emails".
When Democrats get an internal email, it is "leaked emails".
Nonapod, if the reported is having a conversation with you then he/she is "a party to the conversation" and has given her/his consent to record you and he/she talking together. Hidden cameras without an inside man/woman? Don't know.
Ack! I mean "reporter" not reported.
But the door has a vent at the bottom and a large gap underneath....
It wasn't bugged bugged? it was a skim milk bug?
There was "No controlling legal authority"?
It wasn't a "thigh gap"?
Try these and see what sticks.
"Chuck66 said...
dreams, remember. When conservatives get an internal email (such as on Global Warming) that shows fraud, those are "stolen emails".
So what were the EAU e-mails that revealed the fraud at the heart of global warming?
What difference, at this point, does it make?
At this point, if someone released a tape of Obama saying, regarding the Bengazi attack "Yeah, I know I could save them with a phone call, but it would interrupt my golf game and I'm three under par" It might get a lot of play on Fox, a little play on Drudge, but none of the MSM outlets would touch it, citing "national security and privacy concerns".
If there's one thing that's important to progressives, it's getting Ashley Judd into the Senate. They'll do whatever they have to.
As to leak emails, it depends on whose agenda was advanced, if liberals benefit then the emails were leak by a whistle blower, if not then a different spin is necessary.
Deep throat was a hero but Linda Tripp was portrayed as a villain.
Is recording a conversation audible in the hallway really rise to ease-dropping or Watergate style bugging? Because that's not nearly as dramatic.
Another thing, the recording appears to reveal that Senate staff members (LA’s= legislative aides?) conducted the campaign research, potentially violating federal law and Senate ethics rules. Oh-oh.
"Progress Kentucky is committed to protecting your privacy. The following Privacy Policy describes our information collection practices on the ProgressKentucky.com website (the “Site”). This Privacy Policy does not apply to any information that you may provide to us or that we may collect offline or through other means (for example, via telephone or through the mail)."
Well, at least they're up-front about the "other means" part.
Lets remember the lesson..
The ends justifies the means when the ends constitute the loss of a republican...
The higher the office held by the republican, the more justification exists to exert any means necessary.
Can a journalist go somewhere with a hidden camera and record a conversation he had?
In Kentucky, if the journalist, or anyone, is a party (participant - although you don't have to actually utter words) in the conversation, he/she/it can record the conversation. This is allowed by federal law, and state law in KY. Some states require all parties be aware of the recording.
Its the 1% doctrine.
If there's a 1% chance that something like a surreptitious recording will help democrats defeat a republican, democrats will take that chance, roll with it and deal with the consequences later.
Remember, the mentally ill can't have access to firearms but if they're Democrats, they certainly can be US Senators...
If you need to put the microphone under the door then no the conversation is not something that can be heard in the hallway.
@ fobw12
"Another thing, the recording appears to reveal that Senate staff members (LA’s= legislative aides?) conducted the campaign research, potentially violating federal law and Senate ethics rules. Oh-oh."
Yeah because reading Judd's autobiography is such a crime.
MadisonMan said...
Is that McConnell's official picture going along with that story? He needs a better one. If that's the best he can do, then Wow.
It's like you guys aren't even trying anymore.
Depressing.
dreams - The corrupt unscrupulous liberal media discovered just how powerful they are having destroyed George Bush and Sarah Palin's reputations.
1. George Bush destroyed his own reputation pretty good with Iraq, fiscal recklessness, incoherent domestic policies, and unwillingness to fight back against the more scurrilous media charges...Bush thought "history would prove him right" on "The Heroes" saving the noble Iraqis and transforming them into a vibrant, pro-Western nation. On his Big Pharma free drugs entitlement. On his feeding a huge housing bubble where everyone would get rich by financing 0% down for property flippers. And his idiot ideas on immigration, hydrogen, switch grass, putting SS at the whim of the stock market. So he didn't fight back...and then history did not bear him out on a number of disastrous calls he and other Bushies had made.
He helped wreck the Republican brand.
2. Palin was always a lightweight. A broadcast journalist who forayed into politics then quit a series of posts when she found the going tough. Wanted to be a celebrity more than a leader, and proved herself such with her reality TV shows, dysfuncional family stars, and Fox act that got old fast and lead to her being replaced earlier this year as a "flavor from the past not worth keeping on the shelf".
Palin did have her moment in the sun as a right-wing Goddess...and maybe in 5-10 years she will be invited back for some useful role..but she is toast as a national leader and national pundit.
The world according to cedar's addled brain.
Yes, as stated above, this wasn't a private conversation in public. It was a private conversation in a private office. They stick a microphone into the vent.
And McConnell won on this. How do we know? I checked a couple of web site on this and the left is doing the deflection thing. "But McConnell did (x) 20 years ago".
Another thing, the recording appears to reveal that Senate staff members (LA’s= legislative aides?) conducted the campaign research, potentially violating federal law and Senate ethics rules. Oh-oh.
No it doesn't. The transcript's wrong. Which sounds more likely to you: "...thank them three times" or "...on their free time"?
Who you gonna believe, Occam's Razor or your most fervent wishes?
I remember the good old days when I thought the ACLU protected our invasion of privacy.
Technology seems to have collapsed their efforts to where they are now an adjunct program to the Southern Poverty Law Center and any of dozens of George Soros funded Obama reinvigorated Acorn groups dedicated to ....interestingly - Organizing for America under Obama's rules (many Dems are incensed about this BTW).
What I learned about Mitch McConnell's Kentucky campaign office being bugged:
Ironic how alive he comes suddenly when it comes to all he cares about - his power. Too bad he has been a Wax Museum figure concerning Benghazi and Fast and Furious.
And his consistent willingness to keep the GOP Minority in the US Senate "teflon like" over the major issues of our day as he orchestrates votes for GOP Senators to look good in the palace guard press, their constituent newsletters and campaign ads,
Mitch McConnell is more responsible for Obama's re-election and the maintenance of Washington DC gridlock than any other.
The fact that Obama;s media is all over this as a Watergate wannabee is all we need to know. They are Obama's Palace Guard.
Be smarter. folks, about politics. See what is right in front of your eyes in Washington DC.
Then - adjust with your eyes wide open.
Cedarford....what do you think about MSM suing to get 25,000 emails from the Alaska Govenor's office from her term?
They had no reason for it, just wanted to go on a fishing expedition.
Most voters are low information voters and even though it's a conservative state the young low info voters aren't conservative. They don't like McConnell and have no appreciation of his power or influence as the minority leader or even all the goodies he has brought home to the state. Alison Lundergan Grimes from a political family will probably run for senate so the war on women meme will be used and might be enough to beat McConnell.
I hope not but in recent years we've seen the power of the corrupt liberal media and the crooked Dems.
fobw12 said...
"Is recording a conversation audible in the hallway really rise to ease-dropping or Watergate style bugging? Because that's not nearly as dramatic.
Another thing, the recording appears to reveal that Senate staff members (LA’s= legislative aides?) conducted the campaign research, potentially violating federal law and Senate ethics rules. Oh-oh."
Umm...scooter...:
"According to Jacob Conway of the Jefferson County Democratic Party, Shawn Reilly and Curtis Morrison bragged about having made the tape. "They were in the hallway after the, I guess after the celebration and hoopla ended, apparently these people broke for lunch and had a strategy meeting, which is, in every campaign I've been affiliated with, makes perfect sense," Conway told WFPL in Louisville. He added "One of them held the elevator, the other one did the recording and they left. That was what they told to me from them directly." Conway says no one from the Kentucky Democratic Party was involved in the taping."
You know what that means? Lunch break? Means they were on their own time. Means no problem with senate rules or anything else.
God you people are stupid.
McConnell is actually damned effective in subverting Democratic progress in the Senate with a weak minority. You may mot like him because he's not yelly or HELL NO-EY enough for you, but if you can't see that most basic fact you're a hopeless dope.
Via Insty:
UH OH: Wow, bombshell in McConnell bugging case. Progress Kentucky behind the recording?
Professor Jacobson observes: “This is the same Democratic PAC which ran racist ads against McConnell’s wife. . . . If this holds up, it is very, very big time, and on its face appears to be a violation of law.”
It’s certainly an indication that the Dems are revving up the dirty-tricks machine for 2014.
UPDATE: David Corn not talking.
Give it up, rethugs. Your party is dead. We just haven't gotten around to burying it yet.
I hope those people learn their lesson from this.
campy said...
Give it up, rethugs. Your party is dead. We just haven't gotten around to burying it yet.
orly?
Watch them take the Senate
campy said...
Give it up, rethugs. Your party is dead. We just haven't gotten around to burying it yet.
I bet you toss spilled salt over your shoulder too....
This is a teachable moment. Beer summit at the White House to follow.
"I am unfamiliar with the law in this area. How does this jibe with investigative journalism for example? Can a journalist go somewhere with a hidden camera and record a conversation he had?"
I would think that the journalist in that case would count as "at least one party" of the conversation.
Watch them take the Senate
Take it where?
Give it up, rethugs. Your party is dead. We just haven't gotten around to burying it yet.
Maybe. But if so, the movie is “Pet Sematary”, the Republicans are Gage Creed, and they’re about to slice the Achilles tendon of the Dems’ Jud Crandall.
Isn't this espionage and thus the death penalty for all those involved?
CEO--
Stupid people don't know they're stupid. Don't tell them!
Bush was a big spender (compassionate conservative), Clinton and the Dems were responsible for the housing bubble, Bush even tried to reform Fanny Mae but was blocked by the Dems. The unemployment rate under Bush was as good as the Clinton years about 5.4%. Remember the media concentrated their criticism on Bush's war and even did all they could to sabotage the war effort so as to make Bush fail.
The economy was good and therefore ignored by the corrupt media until the financial meltdown which was caused by the Dems and Clinton so the liberal media went to work to convinced the ignorant, credulous American people that it was Bush's fault.
As to Palin, she wasn't up to speed when McCain pick her but she wasn't given a chance by the liberal media and the stupid McCain campaign, she was even sabotaged by McCain's supposedly Republican advisors.
Rumpletweezer said...
CEO--
Stupid people don't know they're stupid. Don't tell them!
Truth.
Stupid people don't know they're stupid. Don't tell them!
Tell 'em. They're so stupid they don't believe you. They just think you're being mean.
"Can a journalist go somewhere with a hidden camera and record a conversation he had?"
-- That matters; whose ox is being gored?
Is Jacob Conway related to Jack Conway, the Kentucky Attorney General? Jack Conway is a man of questionable ethics himself.
You mean the same racist bastards who went after McConnell's wife for being Asian are also willing to stoop to committing a felony?
What a shock.
#DemocratWarOnDecency
When McConnell first commented on the bugging, he tied it to the racist attack on his wife, which I gather came from Progress Kentucky. Is that a coincidence, or did the old dumb white guy already know what happened? I'm betting he knew.
Also, why do lefties always use words like "progressive" when in fact they are against progress? For example, they oppose the new sources of cleaner energy that have resulted in the US reaching Kyoto compliance levels without crippling our economy. They support a position on abortion that's based on 14th century biology. They favor mercantilist economic ideas that were refuted by Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations in 1776. They spoiled that wonderful word "liberal" and now they're spoiling that wonderful word "progress". What will they do next? Spoil "mom and apple pie"?
Cedarford wrote:
2. Palin was always a lightweight. A broadcast journalist who forayed into politics then quit a series of posts when she found the going tough. Wanted to be a celebrity more than a leader, and proved herself such with her reality TV shows, dysfuncional family stars, and Fox act that got old fast and lead to her being replaced earlier this year as a "flavor from the past not worth keeping on the shelf".
Palin did have her moment in the sun as a right-wing Goddess...and maybe in 5-10 years she will be invited back for some useful role..but she is toast as a national leader and national pundit.
How did you come to these conclusions, Cedarford? I ask because that is pretty much what the media said about Palin in 2008.
Do you remember the multiple plagiarism charges against Biden? Do you remember the media focusing on the fact that Biden's Delaware is the smallest state in the union with a population smaller than many metro counties? Did the media explain that Biden was in the pocket of the trial lawyers (particularly those who represent mesothelioma claimants)?
Didn't think so.
What will they do next? Spoil "mom and apple pie"?
Althouse derided "mom and dad" marriages the other day. Apple pie has a pretty high glycemic index so I'll bet it's an endangered food stuff. Watch for it. The derision will be subtle.
"If this were a right-wing plot against a top Democrat there would be wall-to-wall coverage on the cable networks and front-page coverage with the magazine involved taking a beating, but don’t expect too much coverage from the MSM or commentary or much of anything from the lefty pundits, who were only interested in the tape’s contents. Like Benghazi, Libya, in their minds’ if they don’t cover it, it’s not news. Gee, you’d think the “media critics” would notice that egregious bias."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/04/11/dems-tied-to-secret-taping-of-mcconnell-campaign-meeting/
"For much of the last three years we’ve heard non-stop complaints about the abusive nature of Tea Party rhetoric and the way the political right has supposedly dragged political discourse in this country down. The mainstream media has played this tune often and loud in spite of numerous instances of liberal incivility. But what has happened in Kentucky isn’t merely rude; it is a sign that the left has taken political warfare to a completely new level of aggressiveness."
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/04/11/npr-outlet-liberal-group-taped-mcconnell/#more-822455
Pity McConnell didn't sweep the room for bugs and then once found keep his mouth shut and just say misleading things so the Obots would fall into the traps set.
Not saying charge them, but instead use them to spread disinformation.
Oh, well I bet Holder somehow accidently 'drops the ball' and the ones who did it skate on this.
Hope for Change in 2014.
lol
The collective left are in melt down whiney grasp at straws mode:
Tweet from some self-important blowhard corruptocrat:
"McConnell is a spin master. Was going to go after a woman's decades old mental health issues and now he's just trying to distract from that."
That's right - according to ignorant self-righteous progressive - The illegal recording of a private meeting/conversation is a DISTRACTION.
No, proggy, not a distraction. A felony.
Pathetic.
The collective left are in melt down whiney grasp at straws mode
Are you kidding? You should read THIS thread.
Local news in Kentucky is reporting, via a Democratic official, that Progress Kentucky is behind the secret tapes published by Mother Jones this week, which revealed McConnell operatives in the act of...running a campaign. The story immediately went viral in political circles, not so much for the videos’ content as for McConnell’s pushback. The Republican senator quickly went on offense, decrying the left’s “Nixonian-style” tactics, and turning the non-story of the videos into a headache for local Democrats. Which is why they’re now turning on each other to avoid blame:
It's not illegal if the left does it.
It's already gone from the MSM memory, having never been entered.
But remember, these are the decent people.
You would never let indecent scum like the Pope speak at a university commencement. Jay-Z, former druggist, would be acceptable. Even Shug the Ashley Judd psych support dog would be okay.
But not the Pope.
Pretty bitter in here.
Pity McConnell didn't sweep the room for bugs and then once found keep his mouth shut and just say misleading things so the Obots would fall into the traps set.
Sweep for bugs? You've read too many Tom Clancy novels. Good grief man, have you kept up with developments at all? These utterly inept turds slipped an iPhone surreptitiously under a door. This is not some sophisticated secret op on the order of Averell Harriman and the Great Seal bug.
You would never let indecent scum like the Pope speak at a university commencement.
Jesus Christ! I go away for a day and they make Ben Carson POPE?!
April, all your words turned blue!
I know CPR. Or is it CVR. No, CPR, that's the thing I know. Here's the main points of that, don't break the subject sternum, tilt their head back, and take out your gum first.
Bitchtits Mahal sez:
"Pretty bitter in here."
That what? McConnell will cruise to an easy victory?
That the scumbag leftists and David Corn (but I repeat myself) are going to be sweating out the legal process?
Yes, much to be bitter about in this thread. Perhaps we will cling to it, much like our guns and religion.
You fat fucking retard.
Chip - you may administer CPR on me anytime you want. oh dear - I think I feel faint. :)
Is this another trick question?
Progress! (Kentucky)
Progress Kentucky is a registered 501(c)(4) organization which is forbidden to conduct illegal activities such as recording conversations without permission of the participants. The organization founders as the recorders are also individually culpable - so their operations should be shut, the founders should be prosecuted and the organization's funds should be confiscated.
It seems that we are merely scratching the surface here since there is a massive conspiracy afoot among some 36 liberal advocacy groups now called the Democracy Initiative. Interestingly, 501(c)(3) organizations participating include Mother Jones and CREW . . . and it took Mother Jones to blow the whistle on this grand conspiracy.
'CEO-MMP said...
campy said...
Give it up, rethugs. Your party is dead. We just haven't gotten around to burying it yet.
I bet you toss spilled salt over your shoulder too....'
If the rest of the Left is as stupid as you the GOP has *nothing* to worry about.
'Steven said...
You mean the same racist bastards who went after McConnell's wife for being Asian are also willing to stoop to committing a felony?
What a shock.
#DemocratWarOnDecency'
Aaaaaaand we're done here.
All I can hope for is that the good people of Kentucky can see the McConnell team's comments for what they were, which is not much; and that they punish the Dems for at minimum what is highly unethical, if not illegal, behavior.
So far this country's response to the Dems' assault on free speech has been a big fat shrugburger. At what point will we tell them to go shit in a hat for trying so hard to limit what we the opposition has to say?
Joe Schmoe said...
All I can hope for is that the good people of Kentucky can see the McConnell team's comments for what they were, which is not much; and that they punish the Dems for at minimum what is highly unethical, if not illegal, behavior.
I don't think Corn et al care about Kentucky at all. The faux outrage is so the common leftist has a hook to bring it up to their less politically aware neighbors in places like northern Virginia and the Philadelphia suburbs.
What are you complaining about. The tape shows McConnell's staff has their shit together and Ashley Judd is a shallow loon.
They have nothing to be ashamed about. Can you imagine if that meeting was run by Rahm Emanuel?
Jeez, it almost feels like it was a limited hangout (even tho it is mos def not)
McConnell set them up!
Judd is a hot mess and an unelectable nut. This little tempest in a tea cup was done to get her out of the way and defame McConnel in the process. A twofer.
For democrats, they refer to felonies as "Oops!"
Oh. The Tea Party set up both McConnell and the Dems.
Marshall: Spot on. It was released for voter turnout in borderline states to shore up the losses they face with gun control and the sluggish econ and O'health care and the sequester and...
Ozero has short coattails and is no campaign asset like Bubba. Did you notice some of the Judd audio she does not refer to the One by name??
This is a definite repug win.
robertocubano is probably right. she is a tool. makes Al Frakin seem like Super Dave's little Brother.
I don't know how they did it. I'm not smart enough for deductive reasoning, but at 500 X 833 px, this nefarious eavesdroppery is a big f'n deal.
Were it not for David Corn and Progress Kentucky I never would have learned that Ashley Judd is crazier than a sh*thouse rat.
Were it not for David Corn and Progress Kentucky I never would have learned that Ashley Judd is crazier than a sh*thouse rat.
Same here.
Pretty bitter in here.
Yea, its tough to loose a felony sweepstakes to some outfit called Progress Kentucky.
No wander we are out of power.
If the rest of the Left is as stupid as you the GOP has *nothing* to worry about.
Two points. Point 1: I'm not of the Left. I never said I was happy that the GOP has Gone Obsolete.
Point B: the Althouse commentariat — the group that showed up here on election night expecting to celebrate Mittens' landslide win — thinks I'm stupid? Wow.
You know, if Democrats had any decency, one of their number would condemn this infamy and report anyone he knows that was involved with it to law enforcement.
Oh, wait...
I have a feeling we'll go looking for justice and all we'll find is just us!
You know, if Democrats had any decency, one of their number would condemn this infamy and report anyone he knows that was involved with it to law enforcement.
Well, the whistleblower is described as a "longtime local Democratic operative."
Mitch McConnell bugged.
"Were it not for David Corn and Progress Kentucky I never would have learned"... who Ashley Judd was.
Guess I didn't miss much on this thread...
Pogo said...
But remember, it's neurosurgeon Ben Carson who is indecent.
Actually I found his speech quite uplifting last night when Judi and I attended the a benefit at Detroit's Tabernacle Missionary Baptist Church. So did the 2000 others in the church. He and his wife also remained for a reception afterwards. He's a very easy man to like.
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