Althouse: "Our retaliatory action will start without any notice from now."

१६ एप्रिल, २०१३

"Our retaliatory action will start without any notice from now."

"The supreme command of the Korean People's Army Tuesday issued an ultimatum to the South Korean puppet group."

५८ टिप्पण्या:

bagoh20 म्हणाले...: I swear at first read I thought it was gonna be Madison PD from the previous post.; १६/४/१३, १०:१७ AM
bagoh20 म्हणाले...: You can't really hurt puppets.; १६/४/१३, १०:१८ AM
Known Unknown म्हणाले...: “A parade a day has made them the most fearsome marching-and-saluting squad the world has ever seen.”; १६/४/१३, १०:१८ AM
edutcher म्हणाले...: Could it be they aimed for Seoul (or, as our super-sophisticated, heroic, andbrilliant SOS called it, Seeul) and hit Detroit?; १६/४/१३, १०:२१ AM
Sorun म्हणाले...: I liked the photo of South Korean protesters burning an effigy of Kim Jong-on. But they all looked old. Are the younger South Koreans still burning the US flag?; १६/४/१३, १०:२२ AM
traditionalguy म्हणाले...: The South Koreans are really making the Marxist Murderers angry these days.

And getting nuclear weapons sure makes them bolder.

It my be time to rearm the Japanese.; १६/४/१३, १०:२२ AM
Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...: Retaliation is notice.

Isn't it?; १६/४/१३, १०:२४ AM
james conrad म्हणाले...: Sooner or later, someone is going to have to take out the crime family running N Korea.; १६/४/१३, १०:२४ AM
Eric the Fruit Bat म्हणाले...: If Kim Jong-un wants a pair of scissors to the back of the neck he's going about it exactly the right way.; १६/४/१३, १०:२४ AM
traditionalguy म्हणाले...: FYI most South Koreans have become serious Christian believers. And the same thing is happening quickly in China.

So Marxist Murderers running an old time Stalinist tyranny in North Korea maybe feeling the heat and are getting anxious for something to happen.; १६/४/१३, १०:२६ AM
Chip Ahoy म्हणाले...: My favorite part was 'simmering with towering resentment' I had to stop right there because nothing could be better than that. Towering, from the tallest of their resentment harborers, would make that a tower of what, four feet?; १६/४/१३, १०:२७ AM
Tibore म्हणाले...: No, no no, the North Koreans are the puppet group. Haven't they ever seen Team America?

Wiat... now that I thought about it, everyone's in the puppet group in that movie, aren't they? :D; १६/४/१३, १०:२९ AM
bagoh20 म्हणाले...: Calling Team America - World Police, please come in. We have a situation here.

A powerful detonation of ridicule is what's needed right now.; १६/४/१३, १०:३० AM
Rocketeer म्हणाले...: It my be time to rearm the Japanese.

They're rearming themselves just fine without our assistance or permission. And that's peachy with me. Article 9 is not long for this world, and thanks is due in no small part to NK.; १६/४/१३, १०:३४ AM
Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...: Its a notice promising not to give notices of the notice... The notices that have so far failed to get noticed and that's why they are no longer deemed useful?; १६/४/१३, १०:३५ AM
Known Unknown म्हणाले...: I kind of want to say "shit or get off the pot", but that would be a lack of social awareness, wouldn't it?; १६/४/१३, १०:३७ AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...: Matt Damon.; १६/४/१३, १०:४० AM
Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...: This is nothing to worry about...

This is not the final notice... and even after the final notice there is a 90 days grace period.

The final notice comes in an yellow envelope with a red stamp that says FINAL NOTICE with intermittent stripes.; १६/४/१३, १०:४७ AM
Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...: "Failure to give notice" is frowned upon.

As a former community organizer Obama knows this.; १६/४/१३, १०:५२ AM
Colonel Angus म्हणाले...: Sooner or later, someone is going to have to take out the crime family running N Korea.

Just an idea but how about the ROK and Japan deal with it?; १६/४/१३, १०:५३ AM
Bender म्हणाले...: It's all very funny . . . until it isn't. Until they attack. And they will.

Bluster is all well and good until you take the formal step of repudiating the armistice.

As a legal matter, we are now in a state of war with North Korea.

It is only a matter of time before it becomes factual as well.

When war was declared as a legal matter between France and Germany in September 1939, it was not eight months later, in May 1940, that Germany actually invaded France.

It is only a matter of time.; १६/४/१३, १०:५६ AM
edutcher म्हणाले...: Sorun said...

I liked the photo of South Korean protesters burning an effigy of Kim Jong-on. But they all looked old. Are the younger South Koreans still burning the US flag?

During the Korean War, the Norks would take out a whole village if anyone said they weren't pro-communist.

I don't doubt the old ROKs still hate the Norks with a passion.

bagoh20 said...

Calling Team America - World Police, please come in. We have a situation here.

A powerful detonation of ridicule is what's needed right now.

In Pyongyang or DC?; १६/४/१३, १०:५८ AM
traditionalguy म्हणाले...: Our Sigint must know what the creepy boy Murderer is up to. Those code breakers set up the Midway victory and also set up the shoot down of Yamamoto's plane.

We can likely take him out whenever we chose. Are we baiting him into shooting first?; १६/४/१३, ११:०० AM
अनामित म्हणाले...: We can likely take him out whenever we chose. Are we baiting him into shooting first?

Even a headless corpse can twitch a trigger. There are a lot of 122mm rockets aimed at Seoul. They aren't accurate, but all they have to do is hit the ground somewhere in the 200 square miles that is Seoul.; १६/४/१३, ११:०५ AM
Baron Zemo म्हणाले...: Once again this shouldn't be our problem.

Let that Gangnam Style guy who likes to make the Anti-American videos take care of it.; १६/४/१३, ११:१४ AM
Hagar म्हणाले...: In the war of words, I would say the North Koreans have been winning for the last 60 years.; १६/४/१३, ११:१४ AM
AllenS म्हणाले...: Don't worry, Dennis Rodman is going to fix everything.; १६/४/१३, ११:१४ AM
virgil xenophon म्हणाले...: @AllenS/

Yes, Thank God for Dennis Rodman...where would we be without him?; १६/४/१३, ११:२४ AM
traditionalguy म्हणाले...: Drill Sgt...The Seoul area is hostage to the NORKS rockets and artillery. So do we just wait and see when they fire?

Wars happen when 1 participant wants war.

The US Military at the truce line has been our counter hostage of the NORK leader. But that only works coupled with a President in the US who would Nuke the enemy if they wipe out our 25,000 Army guys.

Obama being a Marxist sort of changes their calculation.; १६/४/१३, ११:२७ AM
edutcher म्हणाले...: ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.; १६/४/१३, ११:२७ AM
edutcher म्हणाले...: AllenS said...

Don't worry, Dennis Rodman is going to fix everything.

Agent J and Agent L have it covered:

Elle: Hey, Jay! Zed called. The high consulate from Solaxiant 9 wants floor seats for the next Bulls game.
Jay: All right, let's put in a call to Dennis Rodman. He's from that planet.
Elle: Rodman? You're kidding.
Jay: Nope.
Elle: Not much of a disguise.; १६/४/१३, ११:२९ AM
Æthelflæd म्हणाले...: "EMD said...
I kind of want to say "shit or get off the pot", but that would be a lack of social awareness, wouldn't it?"

Yes, in polite society you should say, "Piss or get off the pot."; १६/४/१३, ११:३३ AM
Jane the Actuary म्हणाले...: Look, I'm telling you, they already attacked. Yesterday, in Boston.; १६/४/१३, ११:४९ AM
rehajm म्हणाले...: "Our retaliatory action will start without any notice from now."

Ambiguity. We won't notice their retaliatory action, so they are making us aware of when it starts?; १६/४/१३, ११:५१ AM
Baron Zemo म्हणाले...: We need to pull our troops out of Korea and Japan and let them spend the money to protect themselves. If they don't want to spend the money or to protect themselves....well then that is no skin off our nose.

We can cut a deal with the Chinese. Who are the only ones who count.; १६/४/१३, ११:५२ AM
Baron Zemo म्हणाले...: We need to stop spending our blood and treasure to keep fighting wars that were over fifty years ago.

The Korean war is over. It should not be our problem anymore.

Fuck those gooks. Let them stand up for themselves. Or not.; १६/४/१३, ११:५४ AM
ed म्हणाले...: I want kimchee with frickin lasers!!; १६/४/१३, १२:३० PM
ed म्हणाले...: @ Baron Zemo

"We can cut a deal with the Chinese. Who are the only ones who count."

1. I agree with the overall sentiment of getting out of Korea

2. I was born in South Korea, just in case that is important to anybody

3. There is no such thing as a "deal" when dealing with Chinese. This is because any such deal is good only for so long as it is in the Chinese favor. As soon as the metrics change or if there is an opportunity to screw someone over then the deal is off.

So trusting to a deal with the Chinese is frankly ridiculous.

4. Abandon the Koreans and Japanese in order to make side deals with the Chinese? Hello remilitarized Japan. Hello nuclear armed Japan and Korea.

Yeah that'll make things better.; १६/४/१३, १२:३४ PM
Baron Zemo म्हणाले...: There is nothing wrong with a nuclear Japan or South Korea. It is going to happen if it hasn't happened already.

Of course China is only going to deal when it is in their interest. That's fine. We should do the same. Only make deals that are in our self interest. Not Japans. Not South Korea.

Luke-san we are not your father.; १६/४/१३, १२:४५ PM
Baron Zemo म्हणाले...: We should only care if it makes things better for us.

It is time to stop worrying about being the worlds policeman. Or the worlds nanny.

Enough already.; १६/४/१३, १२:४७ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Oh Gawd, I have to agree with Zemo here.; १६/४/१३, १२:५३ PM
Alex म्हणाले...: Just neo-con posturing, ignore this.; १६/४/१३, १२:५४ PM
james conrad म्हणाले...: Sooner or later, someone is going to have to take out the crime family running N Korea.

Just an idea but how about the ROK and Japan deal with it?

Actually, i think China should be the one to deal with the mess they have created.; १६/४/१३, २:३० PM
Gene म्हणाले...: If North Korea is so mad because a dozen or so South Korean demonstrators insulted it the other day, instead of firing off artillery shells or missiles, why doesn't it just insult them back--burn South Korean flags or South Korean brassieres? Stomp on a map of South Korea?

I guess that's the mentality of a dictatorship. Insults by people in other countries need to be punished by death (same as they would be on the dictator's home turf).

By the way, has anyone noticed now wonderfully slim the North Korean soldiers (not the brass) in the photos are? I saw a really wonderful documentary about a year ago about a couple of young girls who perform in mass coordinated spectacles for the Supreme Leader. Apparently the documentary's minders pretty much just left them alone. What surprised me then as well was how absolutely slim and trim the adults were. I remember reading that the English on the home front were lean (and healthy) in WWII as well. I guess that's the upside to semi-famine.; १६/४/१३, ४:०५ PM
Rusty म्हणाले...: Tyrants never seem to have a sense of humor.
Notice how serious Obama is all the time.; १६/४/१३, ४:०८ PM
raf म्हणाले...: There is no such thing as a "deal" when dealing with Chinese. This is because any such deal is good only for so long as it is in the Chinese favor. As soon as the metrics change or if there is an opportunity to screw someone over then the deal is off

Obama is Chinese? Huh!; १६/४/१३, ४:४७ PM
ed म्हणाले...: @ raf

"Obama is Chinese? Huh!"

Reading comprehension is a concept foreign to you isn't it?; १६/४/१३, ६:१३ PM
ed म्हणाले...: @ Baron Zemo

"There is nothing wrong with a nuclear Japan or South Korea. It is going to happen if it hasn't happened already."

You really think that a nuclear armed South Korea and Japan isn't going to make the Chinese even more paranoid? You think that it won't make any situation in Asia even worse than it already is?

"Of course China is only going to deal when it is in their interest. That's fine. We should do the same. Only make deals that are in our self interest. Not Japans. Not South Korea."

It's great that you're so sanguine about it but the essence of that sort of situation is that there is in fact no deal whatsoever and you have at best a diplomatic armistice.

You cannot count on it. You cannot trust it. You cannot rely on it. While it may sound pithy to say that is what diplomacy is, I know that's coming next, the reality is that any such agreements are utterly worthless at best. In that scenario you're better off not having an agreement in the first place which puts you right back into the original situation.

As for abandoning our Asian allies ... yeah that'll work. Nothing like throwing your best allies to the mercy of the Chinese or a nuclear confrontation to make every other ally, real or potential, to reevaluate their relationship with you and to cut their own side deals with China. That's a really good way to end up alone with no allies at all.

And abandoning Asia doesn't work for other reasons such as economic where a lot of America's imports and exports pass through those oceans. I welcome you to explain how to maintain security with no local bases. Because I'm sure the various former allies that we sold to the Chinese would be overjoyed to give us basing rights.

Good luck with that.; १६/४/१३, ६:२३ PM
CWJ म्हणाले...: Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!; १६/४/१३, ६:५५ PM
Baron Zemo म्हणाले...: Abandoning our allies?

How many Japs or Koreans have fought in Iraq? Or Afghanistan which is lot closer to them than to us?

Letting them stand on their own two feet is not abandoning them. They have lots of money. Let them pay for their own defense.

The old arguments about stopping the spread of communism don't matter anymore.

After all we have one in the White House.; १६/४/१३, ६:५६ PM
Baron Zemo म्हणाले...: A nuclear armed Japan or South Korea is a better and more realistic deterrent than relying on the US umbrella. Because Obama would never go to the bomb to stop the Chinese. He wouldn't even protect our ambassador so for sure he is not going to call out the troops for the Gangnam style guy.

Let the Asians take care of themselves. We spent enough on them the last fifty years.; १६/४/१३, ७:०० PM
Baron Zemo म्हणाले...: The Chinese will protect the shipment of the goods without our bases because they need the markets and want the money. They have to keep their economy afloat.

That's what it is all about. The money.; १६/४/१३, ७:०३ PM
ed म्हणाले...: @ Baron Zemo

"ow many Japs or Koreans have fought in Iraq? Or Afghanistan which is lot closer to them than to us?"

1. Japanese in Iraq: 600

2. South Koreans in Iraq: 8,000

Here's a nice steam cup of shut the fuck up. Thank you and have a nice day.; १६/४/१३, ८:२७ PM
ed म्हणाले...: @ Baron Zemo

"The Chinese will protect the shipment of the goods without our bases because they need the markets and want the money. They have to keep their economy afloat."

The Chinese will protect the shipment of *their* goods. Ours? Taiwan? Japan? South Korea? Other Asian and Pacific countries?

Not so much.

So who else is going to guarantee the free shipment of goods in international waters? India? They haven't had a lot of luck with the Vikrant. In any territorial confrontation between India and China you should keep in mind that both are nuclear powers and that they share an enormously long unconfirmed common border with a huge number of disputed points.

Yeah because having two nuclear powers struggling with one another for political, economic and military mastery is such a good frigging idea.

Because nothing says "economic security" like basing a knowledge economy on the goodwill of the Chinese.; १६/४/१३, ८:३४ PM
Baron Zemo म्हणाले...: Hey ed just because you said it doesn't make it so.

You said you were born in Korea. If you are so worried about them you can always go back to protect them.

Just leave my tax dollars home. Okey dokey.; १७/४/१३, १:२६ AM
Baron Zemo म्हणाले...: And by the way. The Chinese don't buy our goods anyway. We have no goods to sell. Haven't you been paying attention. Everything is made in China these days.

The only way to beat the Chinese is to make things better and cheaper. Not happening in this world. Let them overextend in the search for empire. It is time to come home.; १७/४/१३, १:२९ AM
Baron Zemo म्हणाले...: I see you got your information from Wikipedia. You know that is always accurate.

Be that as it may let just say that is true. So what?

It is long past time that they pay for their own defense. The war was fifty years ago. How long do we have to fight it?

Forever?; १७/४/१३, १:३३ AM
Fernandinande म्हणाले...: At least they're puppets and not mimes.; १७/४/१३, १०:०५ AM