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Scott Walker says "They are so desperate... they have to make crap up..."

"It is sickening… I think this will backfire, and I think there are a lot of Democrats across the state that will say that this is what is exactly what is fundamentally wrong about politics in America today."

And he predicts that he'll win "by a large margin"... because "voters have had it — they’re disgusted and they’re ready to move on."

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Alex म्हणाले...

Pretty ballsy for Walker to predict a high-margin win on Tuesday.

David म्हणाले...

There's an old story about Harry Truman, who was given to saying the word "crap." Some people found the word objectionable. Others so pretended.

A reporter asked Truman's wife Bess, well known for her penchant for getting on Harry's case, what her reaction was to Harry's use of the word.

It's a lot better than the word he used to use," she said.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

Turnout. Duty vs emotion. which will is the more powerful draw?

David म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
David म्हणाले...

Thomas Beaumont, writing on AP:

MILWAUKEE (AP) — Five months before Election Day, you'd think there would be no better harbinger about who will win the White House than a contentious statewide vote in a critical battleground state that never moved on from the 2010 campaign.

You'd be wrong.


Glad he straightened everyone out on that notion

yashu म्हणाले...

I'm really concerned about vote fraud. Please, someone reassure me.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

Can you imagine the economic catastrophe that will ensure if Walker loses? The deep pockets that actually fund and fuel the economy, as well as pay most of the taxes, will flee as fast as a Democrat lawmaker with a tough vote.

For example, California has lost 1/3 of it's wealthiest citizens in the last decade because it simply continued down the wrong path while states around it did not. Now the state does not have enough rich to pay the taxes or enough business to lower the unemployment and it does no look like it will get better EVER, unless dramatic changes take place.

The deep pockets no longer trust the voters of California. That means they never expect it to change, and that calculates out to financial decisions that say leaving, no matter how expensive, is still worth it. It's a death spiral. These are new times with a new set of very limited choices. Don't blow it Wisconsin.

Meade म्हणाले...

yashu, rest easy. We have a certain attorney general by the name of J.B. Van Hollen.

Scott M म्हणाले...

Is it just me or has anyone else been wondering #whereisGarageMahal

Chip S. म्हणाले...

has anyone else been wondering #whereisGarageMahal

I believe he sustained a serious head injury, forgot his old password, and created a new account under the name of "Bailey".

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

John Edwards' two Americas is coming to be, but it's not as he bloviated about, but rather a divide between those who live in fiscally sound states and those who do not. One America stagnating, shrinking and constantly fighting over which survivors to eat first. The other growing, producing and sucking away all the talent, capital and energy from the stagnating states.

The federal sugar daddy is broke, and will not be propping up the losers any longer. It simply can't.

Meade म्हणाले...

Great Harry Truman story, David.

Bags, Wednesday will be good. Duty and emotion will carry Walker on Tuesday. His supporters have been patiently waiting for 15 months to dutifully and resolutely speak freely: We voted when we voted. We meant it then and we mean it now.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

I hope your right, Meade. There seems to be a lot of decent people in Wisconsin, and I feel like a survivor from the Donner party trying to turn the next wagon train around before it too late. I can't quite express how defeated and demoralized the mood is here in California. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Meade म्हणाले...

Stay strong, bags. We need you and everyone like you.

Lipperman म्हणाले...

Attorney General Peg Lautenschlager also sent teams of Justice Department investigators and lawyers to the polls, back in 2004.
I assume for the same reasons :)

yashu म्हणाले...

Thanks, Meade. I'm nowhere near Wisconsin, but I'm really invested in this election-- really rooting for you guys (rooting for Walker, or more inclusively: against his recall).

IMO this election has national implications, and potentially far-reaching repercussions, that go well beyond current (transitory) GOP vs. Democrat partisan politics.

I don't think that only Republicans and conservatives have reasons to hope for a defeat of the recall... that only they have reasons to hope that an elected governor, in mid-term, trying his hardest to do the right (even if in the short term somewhat politically controversial) thing, is able to complete his term-- and be judged by his constituents for his performance and results, in the next election.

IMO this goes beyond GOP vs. Dem partisan politics, because if I see Walker doing the right (and politically brave) thing, I also see someone like Andrew Cuomo in NY doing so.

caseym54 म्हणाले...

That reminds me: Isn't this the kind of political footdragging that "MoveOn.org" was founded to oppose?

Carnifex म्हणाले...

@Yashu

The correct thing for Andrew Cuomo being Hara Kiri, politically, of course. Don't want to set a bad tone.

My experience with hoping politicians do the right thing is to not hold my breath. Even the good ones get sucked into the money and power game, don't go home often enough and become beltway bitches in a few years.

yashu म्हणाले...

Carnifex,

Alas, I know. I've been trying to remember a quote that I can't for the life of me recall (nor can I remember the source of it, or so far successfully google for it)-- about the importance, above voting "good" men in who would do the "right" thing (which as you point out is a fragile flimsy thing)-- of making sure that even bad men with wrong intentions would have an incentive to do the right thing.

In this case, what I would hope is that at the very least decent politicians (but human and thus flawed vulnerable men) would not be precipitously punished for doing (or trying to do) the right thing.

edutcher म्हणाले...

I think Walker's right. When the vote comes, it won't be close and that will really panic Demos nationwide (as if they need another reason).

I also think Meade's right. For vote fraud to really work, you need a Demo AG and a Secretary of State hand-picked by Dr Evil.

purplepenquin म्हणाले...

Speaking of "desperate", did you see the commercial where Scott Walker is accused of killing a baby in Milwaukee and then having the police cover it up?

Oh wait...

TWM म्हणाले...

I'm looking forward to just being in Wisconsin tomorrow (short trip) and I hope to share in the excitement of a big Walker win.

Paco Wové म्हणाले...

"Isn't this the kind of political footdragging that "MoveOn.org" was founded to oppose?"

Not sure what you mean by 'footdragging'. MoveOn was founded to oppose Clinton's impeachment. It then went on to become a general-purpose liberal pressure group.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"Speaking of "desperate", did you see the commercial where Scott Walker is accused of killing a baby in Milwaukee and then having the police cover it up?"

-- I thought the point of the ad was to say that Barrett was running his town so incompetently that a baby who was beaten to death wasn't recognized as a violent crime to help lower his violent crime statistics? I mean, I'm not from Wisconsin, and I've only seen the ad once, so, maybe I missed some nuance, but I thought that was the point. That Barrett's police department's statistics were having trouble telling the difference between a beaten to death baby and some minor crime.

But, hey, I could be wrong. Enlighten me.

Meade म्हणाले...

It's Monday morning. Is it not too late for Tom Barrett to do the right thing?

Mayor Barrett, if you seek an end to civil divisiveness, if you seek prosperity for the city of Milwaukee and for all of Wisconsin, if you seek liberalization and true progressivism: Come here to this AFSCME headquarters! Mr. Barrett, end this mistake! Mr. Barrett, tear down this recall.

Patrick म्हणाले...

What is this dead baby commercial that they keep going on about? Not living in WI, I haven't seen it.

Is there a link, PP?

Meade म्हणाले...

Matthew Sablan said...
"But, hey, I could be wrong. Enlighten me."

You're not wrong. You got it exactly right. Look at Barrett's rehearsed indignation at 1:00, followed by Walker's calm rational response, followed by Barrett's befuddled defensiveness 1:25 and his return to script 1:55.

Michael The Magnificent म्हणाले...

Classic Randian Producers vs Looters, and the Producers are actually winning this time! And that's why the Looters are in such a panic.

Brian Brown म्हणाले...

FINAL PPP POLL (WISCONSIN RECALL): Walker 50 Barrett 47

ANGUS-REID: WALKER 53% BARRETT 47%

Brian Brown म्हणाले...

purplepenquin said...
Speaking of "desperate", did you see the commercial where Scott Walker is accused of killing a baby in Milwaukee and then having the police cover it up?


NO.

But as par for your course, I'm guessing whatever you alleging is factually false and you're just being a dishonest hack.

Carnifex म्हणाले...

@TWM

Hell, if you're gonna be there you might as well vote. Lord knows the D's will be shipping in votes.

section9 म्हणाले...

Are you kidding? Walker never should have said anything about his margin. Now the SEIU and the Teachers will just bus in more Democrats from Calumet City and Gary, Indiana to vote in Wisconsin for Barrett and the recall.

You screwed the pooch, Walker! You forgot that the spirits of Hizzoner, Richard J. Daley, and Saul Alinsky, control today's Democratic Party.

But mostly Daley.

Remember, Wisconsin Democrats, when you go to the polls tomorrow, take an Illinois Outfit guy to the polls with you.

Sam Giancana thanks you...

Curious George म्हणाले...

"Patrick said...
What is this dead baby commercial that they keep going on about? Not living in WI, I haven't seen it.

Is there a link, PP?" Just more PP bullshit. The commercial highlights heinous crimes that Barrett's PD reported as "non-violent." It does not accuse Barrett of killing the baby. But desperate times call for desperate measures.

Dust Bunny Queen म्हणाले...

uote that I can't for the life of me recall (nor can I remember the source of it, or so far successfully google for it)-- about the importance, above voting "good" men in who would do the "right" thing (which as you point out is a fragile flimsy thing)-- of making sure that even bad men with wrong intentions would have an incentive to do the right thing.

@yashu

Milton Friedman I think.

San Jose Ca is having a vote to try to rein in pension costs and stop the runaway train. If it passes in San Jose it will be a huge thing given the liberal make up of much of that area.

Dust Bunny Queen म्हणाले...
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Dust Bunny Queen म्हणाले...

People have a great misconception in this way, they think way they solve things by electing the right people. Its nice to elect the right people, but that isn’t the way you solve them. The way you solve things is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right things!

Milton Friedman. My hero.

yashu म्हणाले...

Thanks, DBQ!

Oh how I love Milton Friedman.