“Fourteen egos, of such varied personalities … were able to stick together for three weeks,” [Wisconsin State Senator Fred] Risser said. “You don’t have that happen very often.”
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Fleebagalgia.
Fleebagger nostalgia.
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They 'were able' to stick together? Yeah I suppose when your kneecaps are threatened by Union Thugs and you're directed to get your Progressive butt to Chicago you do as you're told!
This might be a silly question but..
Have they passed any legislation to keep legislators from running away?
It feels weird asking.
The Occupy Illinois crowd wants some 15 minutes of fame. Maybe they can move Heg's Memorial and erect one to themselves more like the Marine Corps memorial in Arlington.
"Uncommon valor was a common virtue" over at the Rockville Conference Center.
when your kneecaps are threatened by Union Thugs
Where there actual reports of that happening or is that something that is simply being made up?
For one shining moment, there was Fleebagger.
At the closest breastaurant.
Have they passed any legislation to keep legislators from running away?
A change to the quorum laws would require amending the State Constitution.
While some lawmakers have proposed an amendment that would alter recall elections, I haven't heard of any proposals to change the quorum laws.
Where there actual reports of that happening or is that something that is simply being made up?
Instead of Mozart, * Union Thugs * Union Thugs *BOOGA BOOGA!* is piped into little winger's baby cribs.
"While Risser acknowledged his district supported him in Illinois, not all districts fully supported their senators. State Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, noted more than half of his district was against him going to Illinois."
Even Mr. Risser's district did not fully support him running away to Illinois. I emailed him:
Please return to Madison
Meade Laurence
2/19/11
to Sen.Risser
Dear Mr. Risser,
As a member of your constituency, living in the 26th District, I request that you return to Madison as soon as possible. This act of running away that you and the other senators are engaged in is a serious error and is an embarrassment to our district and state. I look forward to personally visiting with you in your Senate office soon after your return.
Sincerely,
purplepenquin said...
when your kneecaps are threatened by Union Thugs
Where there actual reports of that happening or is that something that is simply being made up?
I wish you were as attentive to the outright crap your side makes up.
BTW the above was obviously hyperbole and intended to be humorous.
garage mahal said...
Where there actual reports of that happening or is that something that is simply being made up?
Instead of Mozart, * Union Thugs * Union Thugs *BOOGA BOOGA!* is piped into little winger's baby cribs.
A wit by half.
What's funny is none of the senators actually had to leave the state, Gestapo arrest threats from Fitzgerald notwithstanding. They were breaking no laws. FitzWalker had no jurisdiction to arrest any of them, and knew that, but had the state patrol out looking for them anyway. Would have been quite the spectacle though watching a woman 8 months pregnant being hauled in the Capitol in cuffs.
garage mahal said...
"Would have been quite the spectacle though watching a woman 8 months pregnant being hauled in the Capitol in cuffs."
And is there anything the garage mahals of the world love more than spectacle?
I didn't know Risser was a woman, or pregnant at the time.
Crazy times indeed.
purplepenquin said...
Have they passed any legislation to keep legislators from running away?
A change to the quorum laws would require amending the State Constitution."
Not true. The constitution provides the legislature the power to craft rules. The amount of members that meet the quorum requirement is in the constitution, how you meet that is up to the legislature. For instance, they could say that announcement of a bill to a legislatures office requires them to appear or to vote by proxy.
And is there anything the garage mahals of the world love more than spectacle?
I have to take the back seat to you though. You're fearless and relentless reporting of spectacles is second to none.
That is a good point CuriousGeorge; the lawmakers could most likely make some sort of changes if they wanted to. Tho I ain't sure how a "requirement" to vote would take place...would someone simply be marked as "abstain" if they refuse to do so within a certain time limit?
I think making changes to the quorum rules is too drastic of a reaction. The procedure worked as intended (slowed, but didn't stop, the process) and has not been abused (used only once and it hasn't been used since). Why the need to change anything?
It seems that lawmakers, on both sides of the aisle, feel the same way...hence no proposals to make changes in that regard.
Garage, you really seem fixated on the pregnant senator (or rep, I'm not sure). Do you view pregnancy as a disease? In the (obviously unlikely) event that all of the senators needed to be hadcuffed, should pregnancy require different standards.
Guys like you make me laugh. I was involved in some litigation with some railroad union fellows who insisted that their work was physically demanding, and that no woman, much less a pregnant woman could handle it. Of course one of the attorneys was 8 1/2 months pregnant, we went out to the rail yard, and she flipped the witch without incident or much effort. This was after the rail road guys had defined that as the most physically demanding of their duties.
Sexism doesn't become you, Garage. Pregnancy is not a disease, and your constant wailing about it is sexist and ignorant.
garage mahal said...
I have to take the back seat to you though. You're fearless and relentless reporting of spectacles is second to none.
We're like two p's in an ipod, garage. What would we do without each other?
Yea call me old-fashioned, Patrick. But the idea of shackling a woman 8 months pregnant and hauling her over a threshold inside the Capitol solely to force her to vote is the work of a demented mind. YMMW.
Yeah, that spectacle that never happened.
"purplepenquin said...
That is a good point CuriousGeorge; the lawmakers could most likely make some sort of changes if they wanted to. Tho I ain't sure how a "requirement" to vote would take place...would someone simply be marked as "abstain" if they refuse to do so within a certain time limit? "
Sure they could abstain. The quorum rules do not require a vote, just the opportunity to vote.
"I think making changes to the quorum rules is too drastic of a reaction. The procedure worked as intended (slowed, but didn't stop, the process) and has not been abused (used only once and it hasn't been used since). Why the need to change anything?" Because that's not what the quorum rule is intended for. It's intended to insure a sufficient body be allowed to vote to eliminate manufactured results. Period. While certainly the intention of the fleebaggers, quorum calls are not intended to slow legislation.
"It seems that lawmakers, on both sides of the aisle, feel the same way...hence no proposals to make changes in that regard." That's assumptive. The 3/5 rule applies only to fiscal matters, and that's behind us now. It has been brought up, by both sides of the aisle. Legislation of a non-fiscal manner is simple majority makes a quorum. That's gonna happen no matter what. So the issue is not pressing now.
It's intended to insure a sufficient body be allowed to vote to eliminate manufactured results
That's like saying the filibuster rules are intended to make sure everyone gets a chance to speak. ;)
I reckon we're just gonna have to disagree with each other on this one...but I gotta say (sinceIhavemadeafussinthepast) that I'm glad we're respectfully disagreeing.
purplepenquin said...
It's intended to insure a sufficient body be allowed to vote to eliminate manufactured results
That's like saying the filibuster rules are intended to make sure everyone gets a chance to speak. ;)"
No, it's not like that at all:
A quorum is the minimum number of members of a deliberative assembly (a body that uses parliamentary procedure, such as a legislature) necessary to conduct the business of that group. According to Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, Tenth Edition, the current edition of Robert's Rules of Order, the "requirement for a quorum is protection against totally unrepresentative action in the name of the body by an unduly small number of persons."[1]
You are wrong. I am right.
What an amazingly cramped life Sen. Risser must lead, thinking that 14 people sticking together for a 3-week project is somehow unusual.
I am amazed how so many people think any problem can be solved by one more law. Perhaps the remedy is humiliation, lack of cooperation by the other side, and losses at the polls. I hold legislators who run off in contempt, and perhaps they should be impeached or prosecuted for ghost employment (they certainly were not doing their jobs), but why on earth do we need more statutes? There are WAY too many now.
What an amazingly cramped life Sen. Risser must lead, thinking that 14 people sticking together for a 3-week project is somehow unusual.
Makes one wonder what life is like at the Risser house.
"Clean your room!"
"FORGET THIS. I AM OUTTA HERE!!"
"How about sex tonight?"
"WHAT? I AM OUTTA HERE!!!"
I bet arguments and fights don't last long.
Politicians agree to cooperate, however nefariously, for three weeks and it's cause for celebration.
That tells you what their standards are.
I see Meade and garage having a beer summit.
damikesc,
You owe me a new keyboard!
damikesc said...
Makes one wonder what life is like at the Risser house.
"How about sex tonight?"
"WHAT? I AM OUTTA HERE!!!"
Risser's 84. The only one he fucks these days is the State of Wisconsin.
Fleebagalgia sounds like a difficult-to-diagnose nervous disorder that inexplicably causes pain in one's fleebag.
Is it possible to carry a petard in a fleebag?
Three weeks! Twenty one days! What solidarity, what cohesion, what determined principle! Nobels for each.
In medicine, -algia means pain. Proctalgia: pain in the butt (sort of). Fleebagalgia would be a painful fleebagger.
Fleebagalgia is a portmandeaun't (portmandon't?)
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