Honoring the dead is not wrong.So what is the problem here.
Halloween honors the Black Magic angle of the dead's lives and asserts the dead are still under control of the craft. Maybe that what is what Christians find offensive.
Many adults fuck up wet dreams, Halloween, and other fun kid stuff. Halloween is pure joy for a kid..in many respects more so than Christmas. Parents have fucked up kids education, kids sports, kids music and dance, Halloween, etc. Young people need to rise up and take back their youth!!
I'm sympathetic to, but don't agree with, people who think Halloween is too ghoulish. My church does a Jesusween (but it's not called Jesusween. I think it's an Autumn Party, which sounds pagan, too.) But the joke is you dress as your favorite person from the Bible, and everyone shows up in a bath robe and Birkenstocks. Because that's how they all dressed! Teehee.
Except if you can find Christianity funny, in which case Jesus Weeners would be hilarious - I mean, they're a bunch of fucking weeners! The band Ween would definitely get a kick out of 'em.
Halloween is a little troublesome to me as well—mostly because it’s just gotten so commercial. I like it as more of a handcrafted, neighborhoody children’s frolic, rather than an excuse to litter yards with icky vinyl inflatables and for adults to wear embarrassing, shoddy costumes.
Amen... Or can I say that relating to something Halloween?
PS. My first thought when I read the first line was that someone should do a mash-up combining "It's The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown" with "It's A Charlie Brown Christmas".
My sister used to make her kids dress up as saints for halloween, but as you might guess, they picked the saints that had really gruesome deaths and dressed accordingly.
Hold up here. Schuller's daughter thinks that witches and warlocks are real? Is it that she thinks that there are wiccans out there who pretend to be witches and warlocks? Or does she really believe that there are people out there who could successfully perform the bat bogey hex?
Our family loves Halloween and have a ball with it. And we have Easter egg hunts and such too, and even give presents at Christmas. While my wife and I take the Bible seriously, I don't have any problems with those aspects of our culture. It seems to be straining at a gnat to me.
Maybe some loser neo-pagan Wiccan types believe that crap, but it's unrelated to any sort of Halloween tradition that anyone in the West authentically has - or has had in a couple hundred years.
At least.
prairie: Given that the Bible talks about witches and magic as real things, if one is the sort of Christian that doesn't just handwave it away as symbolism, one has to thus believe in magic.
The pagans have usurped a Christian holiday with the hijacking of Halloween but it is largely harmless since believers know what the day really signifies and the others have no idea. Let them have fun. Don't be a scold. Spend your energy preserving the meaning of Christmas and the greatest holiday of all, Easter.
I think it's probably more to do with providing a place for people to bring their kids. Door to door trick-or-treating hasn't come back into favor has it? For years and years it was all "Check the candy so your kid doesn't get fed crack by a psycho and DIE! Don't let your kids go alone and never after dark!!"
When my kids were very little, in California, there were fall costume parties at church with games and candy. When we moved to Fargo and the kids were a little older there was a costume party at a mega-church with candy and games.
When we moved down here to New Mexico and the kids were all still under 12 I called around trying to find someone, anyone, who was having some version of a fall party with costumes, candy and games. There were none to be found anywhere. One year we had a party at our house. Our neighborhood has no sidewalks and lots of gates but I finally (about the fourth or fifth year) gave in and drove them (yes, by now they were sort of old for it) one house at a time to the next place that looked decorated.
This year the churches have "Trunk or Treat" (I'd never seen that before) and fall party announcements on their marquees.
I think there is a community need for a Halloween alternative that goes beyond not wanting the "evil" stuff. If churches feel better making their events not-Halloween, at least it makes them comfortable enough to provide the service.
Did you know that there are no verified incidents of children getting sick from Haloween candy that has been tampered with? There are two deaths in which parents killed their own children attempting to blame it on candy, but all the Halloween candy stories are just that, spooky stories.
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Honoring the dead is not wrong.So what is the problem here.
Halloween honors the Black Magic angle of the dead's lives and asserts the dead are still under control of the craft. Maybe that what is what Christians find offensive.
Should be Jesuse'en. I hate people that don't know their own language.
Many adults fuck up wet dreams, Halloween, and other fun kid stuff. Halloween is pure joy for a kid..in many respects more so than Christmas. Parents have fucked up kids education, kids sports, kids music and dance, Halloween, etc. Young people need to rise up and take back their youth!!
Anyway, we already have Jesus Ween. It's on December twenty-fifth.
I'm sympathetic to, but don't agree with, people who think Halloween is too ghoulish. My church does a Jesusween (but it's not called Jesusween. I think it's an Autumn Party, which sounds pagan, too.) But the joke is you dress as your favorite person from the Bible, and everyone shows up in a bath robe and Birkenstocks. Because that's how they all dressed! Teehee.
Jesus Weeners might be seen as fun-trouncers.
Except if you can find Christianity funny, in which case Jesus Weeners would be hilarious - I mean, they're a bunch of fucking weeners! The band Ween would definitely get a kick out of 'em.
I know I would,...
My favorite quote:
Halloween is a little troublesome to me as well—mostly because it’s just gotten so commercial. I like it as more of a handcrafted, neighborhoody children’s frolic, rather than an excuse to litter yards with icky vinyl inflatables and for adults to wear embarrassing, shoddy costumes.
Amen... Or can I say that relating to something Halloween?
PS. My first thought when I read the first line was that someone should do a mash-up combining "It's The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown" with "It's A Charlie Brown Christmas".
How about the old standby's of moving the outhouse back 5 feet or lifting the family chariot up on the roof with a"farmhand?"
My sister used to make her kids dress up as saints for halloween, but as you might guess, they picked the saints that had really gruesome deaths and dressed accordingly.
I spent four years in the South and never did figure out what a trunk-or-treat was. I had always pictured something involving pirate chests.
This is the Spruce Goose of religion.
Hold up here. Schuller's daughter thinks that witches and warlocks are real? Is it that she thinks that there are wiccans out there who pretend to be witches and warlocks? Or does she really believe that there are people out there who could successfully perform the bat bogey hex?
Our family loves Halloween and have a ball with it. And we have Easter egg hunts and such too, and even give presents at Christmas. While my wife and I take the Bible seriously, I don't have any problems with those aspects of our culture. It seems to be straining at a gnat to me.
Trey
There.
traditionalguy: Say what?
Maybe some loser neo-pagan Wiccan types believe that crap, but it's unrelated to any sort of Halloween tradition that anyone in the West authentically has - or has had in a couple hundred years.
At least.
prairie: Given that the Bible talks about witches and magic as real things, if one is the sort of Christian that doesn't just handwave it away as symbolism, one has to thus believe in magic.
Simon Magus, all that.
Please be reminded "evangelicals" do not speak for all Christians. For example here is a great comment on Halloween from a Lutheran perspective:
http://higherthings.org/myht/articles/current_events/gospel-of-halloween.html
I believe in magic.
In a young girl's heart.
Sure why not , kids could dress up as the disciples, or Pontius Pilate, or Roman soldiers.
"Please be reminded "evangelicals" do not speak for all Christians."
Exactly. Just for the Christians going to heaven.
IT IS A JOKE!!!!!!
Honest.
Trey
The pagans have usurped a Christian holiday with the hijacking of Halloween but it is largely harmless since believers know what the day really signifies and the others have no idea. Let them have fun. Don't be a scold. Spend your energy preserving the meaning of Christmas and the greatest holiday of all, Easter.
I think it's probably more to do with providing a place for people to bring their kids. Door to door trick-or-treating hasn't come back into favor has it? For years and years it was all "Check the candy so your kid doesn't get fed crack by a psycho and DIE! Don't let your kids go alone and never after dark!!"
When my kids were very little, in California, there were fall costume parties at church with games and candy. When we moved to Fargo and the kids were a little older there was a costume party at a mega-church with candy and games.
When we moved down here to New Mexico and the kids were all still under 12 I called around trying to find someone, anyone, who was having some version of a fall party with costumes, candy and games. There were none to be found anywhere. One year we had a party at our house. Our neighborhood has no sidewalks and lots of gates but I finally (about the fourth or fifth year) gave in and drove them (yes, by now they were sort of old for it) one house at a time to the next place that looked decorated.
This year the churches have "Trunk or Treat" (I'd never seen that before) and fall party announcements on their marquees.
I think there is a community need for a Halloween alternative that goes beyond not wanting the "evil" stuff. If churches feel better making their events not-Halloween, at least it makes them comfortable enough to provide the service.
Did you know that there are no verified incidents of children getting sick from Haloween candy that has been tampered with? There are two deaths in which parents killed their own children attempting to blame it on candy, but all the Halloween candy stories are just that, spooky stories.
Trey
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