Althouse: "AFL-CIO RUNNING misleading push-calls in Wisconsin Republican primary?"

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"AFL-CIO RUNNING misleading push-calls in Wisconsin Republican primary?"

"'MediaTrackers further notes that while allegations of misleading robocalls by a pro-life group received widespread mainstream media coverage, the same was not true for the misleading pro-Wirch calls.'"

३७ टिप्पण्या:

Curious George म्हणाले...: The only thing misleading about the Pro Life calls last week was the coverage of them.; १६/७/११, ९:११ AM
Beta Rube म्हणाले...: And we're surprised why?; १६/७/११, ९:११ AM
dbp म्हणाले...: Remember GM's feverish denunciations of the Pro Life calls, followed by his increasingly desperate defense of his false accusations?

So which will it be here? Crickets or a Rube Goldberg style defense of these robo calls?

wv imbot really; १६/७/११, ९:३४ AM
edutcher म्हणाले...: Gee, it's getting so you can't tell the AFL from the SEIU without watching "Sesame Street".

These people are getting desperate.

Or, as Senator Blutarski noted, "Nothing is over unless WE say it's over!".; १६/७/११, १०:०१ AM
ndspinelli म्हणाले...: Whatever soul unions had they lost decades ago. For you baseball and legal fans I suggest you watch the superb HBO doc, The Curious Case of Curt Flood. It involves race, unions, antitrust, and the Supreme Court. It is pretty even handed in showing Flood as a flawed Shakespearean hero. And, it shows a former Supreme Court Justice, Arthur Goldberg, being an egotistical ham n' egger.; १६/७/११, १०:०४ AM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: Wisconsin recall candidate "I don't smoke rocks"

Domestic abuse, witness intimidation, bail jumping, tax cheat. Is VanderLeest's candidacy the GOP's idea of a sick joke?; १६/७/११, १०:१६ AM
Chef Mojo म्हणाले...: Even shorter Garage:

LOOK! PLATYPUS!; १६/७/११, १०:३३ AM
Chef Mojo म्हणाले...: Garage Mahal: The parody that writes itself...; १६/७/११, १०:३४ AM
Phil 314 म्हणाले...: You know I was going to post

Calling Garage...

but Garage, you beat me to it and

disappointed me again.

I really want to believe you're more than a rank partisan.

I'm naive that way.; १६/७/११, १०:३६ AM
Curious George म्हणाले...: "garage mahal said...
Wisconsin recall candidate "I don't smoke rocks"

Domestic abuse, witness intimidation, bail jumping, tax cheat. Is VanderLeest's candidacy the GOP's idea of a sick joke?

No. From your link:

VanderLeest was not the GOP's first choice to run against Democratic state Sen. Dave Hansen, who is facing recall for temporarily fleeing the state to prevent Republicans abolishing collective bargaining rights for public workers. The party found themselves stuck with VanderLeest after Republican state Rep. John Nygren failed to get the required number of signatures on his nomination papers.

Another false premise thrown out by you. This has become a habit it seems.

Now, back to the topic at hand. Are you ready to denounce these calls by the Union?

wv: slitesh How Kathleen Falk says slightest. Example: "Garage Mahal of Madishon, Wishconshin doeshn't have the slitesh idea what honeshty and integrity ish about.; १६/७/११, १०:४१ AM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: Another false premise thrown out by you. This has become a habit it seems.

What premise was false. Tell me.; १६/७/११, १०:५१ AM
Paco Wové म्हणाले...: GM's busy making phone calls, he'll get back to you later.; १६/७/११, ११:०३ AM
Phil 314 म्हणाले...: Another false premise thrown out by you. This has become a habit it seems.

What premise was false. Tell me

Garage, please put down the shovel.; १६/७/११, ११:०४ AM
Curious George म्हणाले...: garage mahal said...

What premise was false. Tell me.

It would be easier to say what wasn't, but I'll play:

1) Told callers "not to vote"
2) Revision of #1 saying told callers "not to worry about voting"
3) Saying the calls referenced the primary held last Tuesday
4) Explanation of #3 that the primaries are the recall election
5) Saying the call said they would be sending a ballot
6) Saying the calls were illegal

I might have missed a few, I'm going by memory.

Now, back to the topic on hand. Focus. Are you ready to denounce these union calls?; १६/७/११, ११:१० AM
Carol_Herman म्हणाले...: I don't know about you; but I have a land line. So, yes. I'm always getting unwanted telephone calls.

Do you know how fast I can hang up the phone?

Do you know how fast I can stop on a dime?

There's no need to listen to sales pitches! "Cold Calling" ... can also produce the response you heard to Fred Clark's "dialing for voters" ... phone call ... when the phone not only got slammed down in his ear ... "Susan" got off an answer to his question ... with "IT'S SUCH A CRIME."

Interesting that the "push" issue is anti-abortion. Just another reason to realize most Americans aren't on the side of the religious nutters.

They're not on the side of unions, either.

And, the Internet carries more messages forward ... than you can "dial a phone," can. Can. Can. (Which was a great showpiece dance.); १६/७/११, ११:१८ AM
Carol_Herman म्हणाले...: The real Can-Can was done in Paris. The women dancers didn't wear underwear. And, the thrill was seeing that the ruffles didn't cover what is usually kept hidden.; १६/७/११, ११:२१ AM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: Now, back to the topic on hand. Focus. Are you ready to denounce these union calls?

You scolded us last time that there wasn't anything wrong with the misleading robocall, now you want me to denounce this one? That takes a lot of choot-spa. Anyways yes, I denounce all misleading robocalls. I won't ask you the same because I already know the answer.; १६/७/११, ११:२३ AM
Alex म्हणाले...: Anyways yes, I denounce all misleading robocalls.

Haha yeah right when busted. Yet you won't address the unbalanced media coverage of the 2 events. That's because in your heart of hearts, you like the left-wing media bias.; १६/७/११, ११:२९ AM
Fen म्हणाले...: Now, back to the topic on hand. Focus. Are you ready to denounce these union calls?

Fen's Law: The Left doesn't really believe in the things they lecture the rest of us about.

Garage: I denounce all misleading robocalls [emph added]

See? Garage reaches for the Tu Quoque. And thats the most you can expect of his kind.

Remember that.; १६/७/११, ११:३५ AM
Curious George म्हणाले...: garage mahal said...

You scolded us last time that there wasn't anything wrong with the misleading robocall, now you want me to denounce this one? That takes a lot of choot-spa. Anyways yes, I denounce all misleading robocalls. I won't ask you the same because I already know the answer.

Another false premise. I didn't say there was "nothing wrong with the "misleading robocall", I said there was nothing misleading about the robocall.

Now you asked for what false premise, and I since you have chosen to avoid response, we can assume that you agree that you were just making shit up.

This is how libs argue...present opinion or bullshit as fact, and go from there. When challenged, punt.; १६/७/११, ११:४४ AM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: I didn't say there was "nothing wrong with the "misleading robocall", I said there was nothing misleading about the robocall.

LOL

Let's make this easy.

garage mahal denounces both robocalls, period.

Curious George _________________?; १६/७/११, ११:५० AM
Curious George म्हणाले...: I will not post false premises about any robocall to try to make a point.; १६/७/११, १२:०८ PM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: DId you ever find out if the "applications for absentee ballots" were ever mailed out Curious George?; १६/७/११, १२:१८ PM
Fen म्हणाले...: Garage: Let's make this easy.
garage mahal denounces both robocalls, period.

Still hiding behind the Tu Quoque.

Really, how hard can it be? I'll even help you out - all you have to do is cut and paste: I denounce the AFL-CIO use of misleading push-calls in the Wisconsin Republican priamry.

Try it. Your brain won't spill out. Promise.; १६/७/११, १२:४१ PM
Fen म्हणाले...: It must be a mental defect specific to Libtards. They can't denounce their own tribe unless its qualified with "both sides do it".; १६/७/११, १२:४३ PM
Fen म्हणाले...: Uh-oh, I think I put Garage into a loop. We'll be here all day now...; १६/७/११, १२:४४ PM
Curious George म्हणाले...: garage mahal said...
DId you ever find out if the "applications for absentee ballots" were ever mailed out Curious George?

Hey, so we now have concession on the application versus ballot issue.
Awesome!

Didn't find out. Don't intend too. This is your issue GM. ANd frankly I have no concern with robocalls of either group.

My issue is with asshats that lie about what's going on to make a point. That as I have demonstrated, includes you.; १६/७/११, १२:५१ PM
Fen म्हणाले...: *cue Jeapordy theme song*

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"We're back, and Garage is... still... wrestling with his Tu Quoque..."; १६/७/११, १२:५७ PM
garage mahal म्हणाले...: That as I have demonstrated, includes you.

Yep, as soon as you show me proof of those applications being delivered as promised on the robocalls brutha! If not, that is obviously "misleading".; १६/७/११, १:०५ PM
Fen म्हणाले...: Bravely ran away...; १६/७/११, १:१२ PM
purplepenquin म्हणाले...: One robo-call tells people not to worry about voting in the upcoming election (when an election is being held in the next day or so) 'cause an application for a absentee ballot will be sent to them. The Ann-a-holics see nothing wrong with that tactic, but the group spews venom&hate because of a robo-call that didn't mention one of the candidates names in an upcoming election.

Then again, in all fairness, looking at the responses it seems that most people who are outraged didn't actually follow the links to the original story...they are just reacting in a Pavlovian manner 'cause Althouse rang their bell.; १६/७/११, १:५२ PM
Curious George म्हणाले...: purplepenquin said...
One robo-call tells people not to worry about voting in the upcoming election (when an election is being held in the next day or so) 'cause an application for a absentee ballot will be sent to them. See what I mean about liberals? They all do this...start with bullshit and create their argument of of it.

The Right to Life call did not say "don't worry about voting." Or "don't vote". Does that matter to a liberal? No. Will they repeat it over and over? Of course. Do they find any shame in doing it? No. The funny think is that they can actually right shit like this:

"Then again, in all fairness, looking at the responses it seems that most people who are outraged didn't actually follow the links to the original story...they are just reacting in a Pavlovian manner 'cause Althouse rang their bell."

Purple Penquin, are you an idiot or liar?; १६/७/११, ३:२९ PM
Joanna म्हणाले...: garage mahal said... I denounce all misleading robocalls.

GM, I'm curious what you think about this:
"[W]hile allegations of misleading robocalls by a pro-life group received widespread mainstream media coverage, the same was not true for the misleading pro-Wirch calls."; १६/७/११, ३:४२ PM
Fen म्हणाले...: purplepenquin: blah blah blah

Oh lookie. Another Libtard has changed his sockpuppet.; १६/७/११, ३:५४ PM
Phil 314 म्हणाले...: Anyways yes, I denounce all misleading robocalls.

Its a start.; १६/७/११, ५:०९ PM
Fen म्हणाले...: No, its a dodge.; १६/७/११, ५:१३ PM
Fen म्हणाले...: GM, I'm curious what you think about this:
"[W]hile allegations of misleading robocalls by a pro-life group received widespread mainstream media coverage, the same was not true for the misleading pro-Wirch calls."

Oh, he'll denounce it... as soon as he finds evidence (or makes up evidence) that Fox News is guilty of the same thing.

Garage must be able to couch his denunciations of Lefties in terms of "both sides do it".

Else, his head will explode.; १६/७/११, ५:१५ PM