They say. And I'm not a deather.
UPDATE, 10:24 CT: Why is Obama taking so long? Very lame time-filling on CNN and Fox News.
UPDATE, 10:34 CT: CNN is showing crowds of people around the White House, chanting and celebrating.
UPDATE, 10:35 CT: Obama speaks, describing what happened on September 11, 2001. "The American people came together... We reaffirmed our ties to each other.... We were united as one American family."
UPDATE, 10:38 CT: Last August, there was a new lead about Bin Laden's whereabouts. Last week, there was enough information to launch an operation, Obama says. No Americans were harmed. A "firefight" took place, and we "took possession" of Bin Laden's body.
Obama reminds us that we "are not at war with Islam." He says Bin Laden was not a Muslim, but a terrorist murderer.
UPDATE, 10:41 CT: "Justice has been done." "Let us think back to the unity that prevailed on 9/11." "Tonight we are once again reminded that America can do whatever we set our minds to... not just because of our power but because of who we are, one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all." A fine speech.
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563 पैकी 1 – 200 नवीन› नवीनतम»The president just wants to interrupt the Donald's program.
I want to see the death certificate.
Thank God.
Adolph Hitler
Yasser Arafat
OBL
All sharing a burning tar pit in Hell right now.
But now I won't know how CSI Miama ended.
When I was a little boy, there were news break-ins all the time. With cable news and the internet, we don't get them anymore.
I want to see the death certificate.
Long form please.
Kudos to our military & President Obama. This is great news and the country sure could use some of that!
Congrats to all involved. Well, all except for the people involved on the other side. Kinda sucks to be them right now. Good.
Obama is a warmongering, fascist murderer.
And chickelit adds a LOL! It's a great night all around.
Hoosier is a "deather" :)
All that matters is how this will be spun to ensure Obama's re-election.
I'm surprised Obama didn't keep Osama on ice for the '12 October surprise, tsk, tis' a pity.
C'mon, just make the announcement. Stop waiting for a redraft of the speech and just get on the tube and say it.
Awesome. I assume God will judge his soul according to OBL's life's work.
Live feed: http://www.whitehouse.gov/live
If true (bin Laden dead), isn't announcing tomorrow soon enough?
Another sign Obama is coming unglued. Or, running for president.
CNN treating this as the equivalent of Pearl Harbor, VE Day and VJ Day.
Somehow it does not seem like a huge event to me.
Events have passed Bin Laden, he is getting his final 15 minutes, but he was already yesterday's news.
Delay.
Teleprompter problems.
All that matters is how this will be spun to ensure Obama's re-election.
Obama gets a bump in the polls, but he and Biden overplay it to an eyerolling level and it becomes a net negative.
If you ask me.. Obama has failed to get his man Gaddafi even while knowing where he is.. while Bush has come back from the dead to get his man Osama.
OMG.... did Obama attack Gaddafi on the verge of the Osama announcement in oder to avert the political spin I have just given?
Teleprompter problems
Irony much?
I hope this isn't another Tora Bora fiasco where Obama ends up interviewing with Larry King or Regis and Kelly.
I want his body or body parts. How when where and Who. Was this a tageted hit or a road accident Did the ISI serve him on a plate or did we find him ourselves
How many days weeks and years went bye before Obama gave the ok to whack this guy?
Its amazing how whenever Obama gets into political trouble he finds a 'fall guy' to take the heat for him?
Phand silver is down to 43.00 per oz. I guess Ben, Time and Jim want to send a message to the PM traders about commodities trading.
Lem w/ the deja vu.
So many cockroaches, so little time.
CNN treating this as the equivalent of Pearl Harbor, VE Day and VJ Day.
CNN is taking a break from the birther issue?
So let the record show:
Osama bin Laden was killed on Barack Hussein Obama's watch, not when ...
cheney/bush were at the helm ...
Quoting Bush43 ~ I am truly not that concerned about him.
Bush Quotes about Bin Laden
November 13, 2002
For your amusement and future reference, here's what Bush has said about bin Laden at various points in time, depending on how he was trying to spin things:
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ G.W. Bush, 9/13/01
"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" ~ G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
"...Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county [sic]. Now he's maybe in control of a cave. He's on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we're going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that's what's happening. He's on the run, if he's running at all. So we don't know whether he's in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open -- we just don't know...." ~ Bush, in remarks in a Press Availability with the Press Travel Pool, The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on official White House site
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." ~ G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
"I am truly not that concerned about him." ~ G.W. Bush, responding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts, 3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
~~~~~
'nuf said!
Lem w/ the deja vu.
This is a big fucking deal!
Ding dong! Bin Laden's dead!
Which old Laden? The Bin Laden!
Ding dong, old Bin Laden's dead!
Our military deserves the highest praise for this.
That said I'm curious as to how quickly the talking heads opposed to action in Afghanistan forget their previous opposition.
May he rot in hell. Best decision Urkel has made since becoming president.
hey shiloh - did Bush ever get a scenario when all he had to do was approve of a drone strike on OBL and refused to do so? Probably he had already given a standing order to do so without getting his confirm. WHat priority did Obama put on OBL anyways? Did he put boots on the ground in Pakistan to root him out? Nope.
If true, Humdu'allah!
Actually, Bin Laden can't be dead until Titus shits on him. Then it's official.
This isn't supposed to be recent or something is it?
I've been convinced that Osama has been dead for years, probably a good 12 months previous to the last time we got a supposed voice recording of him.
Now, I figure that it's probably been long enough that he won't be elevated to a martyr and a symbol, which I figure is why Bush never announced that we got him or at least that he died in his sleep of kidney failure.
"That said I'm curious as to how quickly the talking heads opposed to action in Afghanistan forget their previous opposition."
My guess is that this will make more folks tire of continuing the Afghanistan war.
I wonder if Jeremy is already coining the term Deathbaggers by now? I also wonder if AlphaLiar is hacking out a screed about pro-muslim oppression of freedom fighters abroad.
Well bjAndp, so much for unity. Shilho is here.
Time for a cocktail: "A Flying Dutchman"
Osama bin Laden was killed on Barack Hussein Obama's watch
Thank you for calling 911.. let the professionals handle it from here.
We will make sure to call you as an eyewitness.
I guess a trial is out of the question then.
Agree with David.
Justice done, to be sure. Politically, not that high up on the radar.
Five years ago, before Al Qaeda had been gutted and discredited in Iraq, yes, it would have been a big deal.
Now, I don't think as much. If the trolls think there'll be a bounce from this, my guess is it will be the dead cat variety. Zawahiri had been speaking for the group, when it spoke at all, and bin Laden had been out of the picture. For all we know, he may have been helpless as Jim Bowie supposedly was at the Alamo, given he had kidney failure and other ailments.
Interesting this comes right after the birth cert.
Did the ISI serve him on a plate
That, or something very similar.
For one, the Paki's have been under tremendous domestic/internal pressure to stop the drone attacks.
Scott Walker elected governor of Wisconsin. OBL killed.
Co-incidence? Hmmmm.
Congratulations to our Armed Forces and our intelligence community!!!
They can run and hide but not forever.
BTW, fuck the politics of it for at least a few days - this is huge - just sit back and celebrate the death of the most infamous Islamic terrorist. With beer, naked hookers, and pull-pork BBQ.
Obama is going to speak to the nation about it as soon as he cleans his golf cleats.
Clearly Robert Cook is weeping crocodile tears at this news and cursing the name of Obama.
"Time for a cocktail:"
Ha.
I got a nice bottle of scotch eight minutes ago.
I question the timing
Time for Al-Zawahiri next.
And Shiloh arrives right on time to prove just how big of a partisan douche he is.
Give that predator drone $25 million!
Forget about the politics for a moment? Sure if you're an idiot Republican who thinks Obama is going to give Bush any credit for this.
Too funny as Alex is still apologizing for cheney/bush!
Again, all I ask for is AA conservative consistency! :-P
@Hoosier Daddy: Pope Stephen VI exhumed the corpse of Pope Formosus and tried "him"!
"Osama bin Laden was killed on Barack Hussein Obama's watch, not when ..."
No details? When and where? I'm interested and if you have the info, Shiloh, I want the link.
Not that this will change the fact that Bush was right, absolutely right, to present Osama as unimportant. It made him unimportant and stole his power and potential power as a symbol.
I understand that in a world where nothing is related to anything else and it seems a good thing that Obama makes his decisions case-to-case, that Osama existed in abject isolation as a cause and nothing anyone says will change the opinion of some that Bush should have been railing against him with firey rhetoric, raising him up as the mother of all evil and the most important person in the whole wide world.
Hey, Obama does it all the time, every time he tries to be clever and elevates Rush, or Beck, or Palin, or Trump.
No doubt he'd have done so with Osama and proved that he was a powerful foe indeed.
Apparently they cut into "The Apprentice" to announce: Osama: You're fired.
PBandJ,
Potentially, but the need to play politics with this is going to cause a great many people to suddenly become hawks for the next week or two.
As I understand it, when the army captured Hussein, Hussein said "I am SADDAM HUSSEIN!" like it was supposed to mean something. One of the soldiers quickly replied "George Bush sends his regards."
Here's hoping something similarly humiliating occurred right before the bastard met his maker.
WV Compli. Just awesome
NYT:
One of the officials said that American forces, acting on intelligence, launched a “targeted assault” that killed Mr. Bin Laden, whose ability to elude capture for so long deeply frustrated the Bush administration.
It "deeply frustrated" the Bush administration. But not, apparently, the Obama administration, who simply got done the job that the Bush people could not.
shiloh - you failed to show a causal chain of OBL not being killed under the Bush/Cheney watch to some irrelevant public statements. You do realize that behind the scenes other things happen right? How many Al Queada goons did Bush kill? Lost count...
NBC is framing this as the whatever anniversary of "Mission Accomplished!" Still finding ways to kick GWB.
They will have to go very very far to convince me this is recent. Guess that makes me a deather.
Obama, August 1, 2007: "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."
Link.
It "deeply frustrated" the Bush administration. But not, apparently, the Obama administration, who simply got done the job that the Bush people could not.
No, Pakistan was covering for OBL all these years. But since they are under pressure to stop the US drone attacks, they finally relented and gave up his position. But of course Obama gets the credit for doing.... what exactly? Oh yeah, just being around... Playing golf.
Rumor that it was up close and personal (shot) in a mansion near Islamabad.
Too bad FOX viewers are forced to watch cable TV's emotional basket case; Geraldo Rivera.
Meanwhile, Wolf Blitzer can hardly breathe.
While Andrea Mitchell is barely recognizable...
"Forget about the politics for a moment? Sure if you're an idiot Republican who thinks Obama is going to give Bush any credit for this."
The only credit here is to the Armed Forces and intelligence types. Past that I don't give a shit who takes it politically because it is fleeting - it ain't gonna help Obama for more than a day or so and Bush is secure enough to not give shit.
It's party-time - enjoy the moment!
It "deeply frustrated" the Bush administration. But not, apparently, the Obama administration, who simply got done the job that the Bush people could not.
lol
You're such a twat.
"It "deeply frustrated" the Bush administration. But not, apparently, the Obama administration, who simply got done the job that the Bush people could not."
And let the record show that Truman defeated Japan and not FDR.
Why do I get the feeling that Shiloh is the type of person who would negotiate with hostage takers?
Now let's drop the body into a volcano or maybe put him into a plasma toxic waste destroyer and reduce him to his component elements, or bury him in the middle of a mine field.
FWIW, I will be disappointed in Obama if he doesn't give Bush some sort of credit. Of course, this might be why he and his speechwriters are having trouble finalizing the speech.
The news said it happened 7 days ago and they were verifying his DNA.
"It's party-time - enjoy the moment!"
Hell yes!
Now I'm a confessed troll, but even I think it'd be nice if a handful of folks could stop getting this thread off the party track.
Like I said, they shoulda waited till the morning.
And let the record show that Truman defeated Japan and not FDR.
The Germans too.
Obama an hour late for his big moment.
CNN broadcasting drunken college students singing the National Anthem.
They can not get a teleprompter to work on demand.
How will they run the high speed choo-choos.
Obama an hour late for his beg moment.
(Refrain)
pbJ - if Obama wants to defuse this from being a pure partisan hackery, then he should strongly praise Bush for setting up the framework. Otherwise, pure partisan hack.
Now let's drop the body into a volcano or maybe put him into a plasma toxic waste destroyer and reduce him to his component elements, or bury him in the middle of a mine field.
I've always thought these guys should be buried in an Alabama hog farm.
"You do realize that behind the scenes other things happen right?"
Wow, Alex, that's a stupid question to ask Shiloh.
To celebrate, the TSA is giving everyone a free crotch-caress tomorrow.
Teleprompter is in a union and gets paid triple time for weekend work.
Osama Bin Laden was only fifty-four years old?
"The news said it happened 7 days ago and they were verifying his DNA."
To clone him! Bwa ha ha ha!
(Seriously, they have DNA to verify a match?)
(Oh, and... 7 days isn't long enough to write a speech?)
Crimso said...
Rumor that it was up close and personal (shot) in a mansion near Islamabad.
You gotta hope that is true.
"Hi, Osama. Man, you ARE tall."
(Raises sights.)
Blam!
Given the conflicting reports (e.g. missile strike vs. special ops/afghanistan vs. pakistan) we may want to hold off on the party just yet.
That said I'm still going to grab a nice cold beer.
I wonder if we got any actionable intel from either the site or any of its occupants.
Might be time to break out the waterboard again.
What the hell, blogger ate another comment.
Obama, August 1, 2007: "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Obama said.
The White House delayed so as not to interfere with the Royal Wedding. Diplomacy at work.
hmm, did I rain on Althouse's 24/7 partisan winger parade lol.
Quite a week for AA's flock! :D
take care, blessings
Osama Got a Shot in the Head
Obama Got a Shot in the Arm
Me, I’ll Just Take a Shot of Whiskey
Singin' Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
Also it seems more likely that this may have been a play by the ISI to try and get the US to back off the drone strikes (which would go to PBandJ's point)
What the hell, blogger ate another comment.
copy/paste is your best friend just before you hit preview/publish ...
Blitzer: "Obama was supposed to address the nation an hour ago."
Ha!
(Again) "It's almost an hour . . . "
Must be "fine tuning" the speech.
(For a week???!!!)
John King sounds like he's drunk. Slurring words slightly. More than slightly.
Did the White House have 7 days to prepare for this news announcement?
This is great news. Great job USA.
"I guess a trial is out of the question then."
This just in Attorney General Eric Holder is demanding to try the Osama Bin Laden body or parts thereof.
I've been looking for a reason to go out and buy a nice bottle of scotch. I believe I need wait no more.
copy/paste is your best friend just before you hit preview/publish
I always do this for any intensive post I write.
Hey, good for Obama. Glad the job is done.
Blitzer: "The President getting ready."
(Shot of lecturn and empty hallway.)
shiloh has best explain why he gives Bush no credit for this. Is he that big of a moron not to realize who put the military framework together? I guess he thinks Truman won WW2.
"Did the White House have 7 days to prepare for this news announcement?"
The news folks were saying that the Hill didn't know about this before the announcement that BHO would be speaking (hence no leaks for a week). So, I'd guess that the WH is calling all the prima donas on the Hill before speaking to the nation.
May 1 2011: The day the Vatican announced John Paul II was in heaven and the White House announced Osama bin Laden was in hell.
Obama is stealing his own thunder.
Hard to do but he's pulling it off.
(More drunk students on CNN.)
my side (libs) might be insufferable for a while, but if the economy continues to sputter out, no one will care. It's like the Reaganites who boast about how Reagan singlehandedly stopped the USSR; people knew better than that.
The best thing to do is to see what happens during the week. It will amplify the "bush took his eye off the ball" but O balanced that with our involvement in Libya (plus all O did was continue what W did,he was given a free pass from criticism from a sycophantic press wanting the first black president to be a savior.)
He is also still an arrogant %%%% and if the fiscal situation does not improve it will be no better than last week. But in a sense I would love for O to get a 2nd term. He should be held completely responsible for the 50% rise in the deficit and the results.
Julius, taking his cue from the Times, seems to be suggesting that the Obama administration has demonstrated significant competence when contrasted with the predecessor administration.
If true, this would be the first instance of that in two years.
I guess we'll have to wait for President Jeb Bush to get Gaddafi.
I heard neighbors behind me cheer when the news came up.
Thank you, US military. We sure needed this.
Blitzer: "It's now past 11:30."
you just go and lay your hands on a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, and I think you're going to finally understand...
Obama, good job.
Major diversion from news of Obama's stolen SSN tomorrow, and naybe more...
I suppose it is too much to hope for that the corpse will be annointed with pig fat before burial?
And let the record show that Truman defeated Japan and not FDR.
good one, Crimso...exactly
1 minute...
Osama was killed on Easter Sunday?
Now
Live drunk college students on CNN! "Wolf, it's so dramatic."
Secret Service on the job.
Students: "The best day ever in American history.")
Bush had a plan on what to do if Obama killed.
(Obama, it seems, did not.)
Who cares whose "watch" it happened under? It happened, thank God.
No, you didn't rain on a parade, Shiloh.
Just because you said something stupid about Bush and you get called on it, doesn't mean you really said something brilliant and relevant about Bush but people are knee-jerking defense.
Alex asked you a stupid question.
It's a question we all know the answer to.
OK, let's get this thread over (1,000) posts post-haste! :D
I yield back the balance of my time ...
Wait! This is huge, Mick. You mean the birthers haven't given up? With every new fact, the conspiracy just gets deeper, huh?
Also, non-birther related, I doubt that Obama cares about Trump here. He wants this to dominate the week's news cycle. This is the opposite of releasing news on Friday. However, if Obama even thought about Trump here, sad. Trump is not going to be a factor in the Republican nomination battle.
I wonder if there were a few sullen losers standing around, acting like douche-bags when the news broke that Hitler was dead?
This is the first time I have ever watched Barry talk when it didn't make me sick to my stomach.
C'mon, give Bush some credit already.
Hitler's not dead. Ask Mick.
I'm here to announce that Osama Bin Laden has been killed.
It was a dark and stormy night.....
Fire the speech writer.
I called my mother and she tells me that the al qaeda's #2 at Guantanamo said that if and when Osama was killed that they would attack the US with a WMD.
I'm listening to Obama and he sounds like hes giving a political speech.
"C'mon, give Bush some credit already."
LOL. Keep dreaming, Peter! To Obama, this is yet another "I won" moment.
So many AA conservative deflections/red herrings, non sequiturs ~ so little time ...
I have not watched a presidential speech since Clinton, with the exception of Bush at the World Trade Center ruins. I sure won't start now. You people please be accurate.
Shiloh: "Bush/Cheney pursuit of bin Laden bad bad bad!"
Shiloh: "Obama got bin Laden! Eat it, Rethugs!"
The ultimate team player.
At least mention that you personally called GWB.
"C'mon, give Bush some credit already."
Bush said he didn't matter.
BHO told the CIA he was the most important goal.
They didn't read him his rights first?
"At my direction."
"I ordered.."
"My administration.."
ME ME ME
Repeating:
Bush43 ~ "I am truly not that concerned about him."
carry on
Yes.. he said .. just as president Bush.
The important thing for Shiloh is that everything make Obama and Democrats look good and everything make Republicans and Bush (still) look bad. It's not about right and wrong with these people.
BHO told the CIA he was the most important goal.
That's why the CIA didn't know anything about the Arab Spring.
Shiloh will still be talking about George W. Bush in 2020. I say yes and I am taking bets now.
"Bush said he didn't matter.
BHO told the CIA he was the most important goal."
Accurate on both counts. For Bush, Osama's death didn't really matter because after a time it really didn't matter in a strategic sense.
For Obama, it was the most important goal, because it's all optics and politics with Obama.
"Worst attack on the American people in our history."
????????????
Pearl Fucking Harbor?
Pathos.
Why pathos? "A gaping hole in our hearts."
Trite.
United. We were United!
Vicious attack!
Now, a little history lesson. "War" against AQ. ("War?")
Pak-kiss-stan. )
He "directed" making killing Osama the top priority.
(This was new?)
The killing was today--done by American boots on the ground. "Took custody" of his body.
Now at war with Islam--neither was "Bush."
Obama said "Bush!"
Pakis helped us find Osama.
But our troops did the killing.
Man, these troops had a hell of a mission.
I got that swelled up my spine.. despite the messenger.
American forces attacked on the ground and killed the fucker dead - with no American casualties.
Sweet.
Also, it's better to have done it this way than to kill him with a Predator. Up-close and personal.
Leon Panetta succeeded in the mission BHO gave him. Is this why he got Defense last week?
Is tonight the night that Peter Hoh finally just admits that he's a moderate Republican?
Shiloh is a troll, and I hardly feel his remarks worthy of mention, but if I failed to recognize it then, I have since come to believe that Bush did the right thing by minimizing bin Laden's importance.
Seven,
I have no idea how you maintain the stamina keep fighting the birther battle.
"Shiloh will still be talking about George W. Bush in 2020."
Does anyone read "Shiloh's" comments now? I sure don't. I can't imagine anything changing that by 2020.
You would never have heard a speech like this from Obama <= 2008.
Well done, Mr. President.
Be fair, Alex. If this is correct...
No, Pakistan was covering for OBL all these years. But since they are under pressure to stop the US drone attacks, they finally relented and gave up his position.
...then this is answered...
But of course Obama gets the credit for doing.... what exactly?
If there is one concrete difference in President Obama's Afghanistan tactics, it's an increase in drone attacks, especially inside Afghanistan. If the drone attacks truly led the Pakistanis to give up Bin Laden, then I think President Obama actually deserves some credit here.
I don't know if the premise is true or not. I think President Obama will get the credit simply because that's generally the way it works: the guy on watch at the time of the event gets the credit (or the blame). Partisans may try to shift the timeframe to their advantage; but the general public will credit this to President Obama.
And well done, U.S. military.
In a way he seems to be reaching out beyond politics..
As president.
I loved it!
The important thing for Shiloh is for somebody.... ANYBODY to pay some little bit of attention to him.
blessings, take care
"Repeating:"
Yeah, what Alex said.
You aren't a stupid person, Shiloh. I know you're not. But you would rather Bush had puffed Osama up as a symbol. What you feel is so cutting, so wonderful, so harsh that it must be repeated proves nothing at all about the effort Bush directed toward the search for Osama and you know it. Because you're not stupid.
...and justice for all
Including, tonight, Osama Bin Laden
Agree with Palladian 1000% as usual (except gay marriage).
What's changed? Tomorrow, you'll still pay out the ass for gasoline. The economy is a wreck. If anything, the world is more dangerous given the perception by terrorist thug fuck sticks that a reprisal is in order.
This is great and all. Way to go. Woo hoo. Good job. But it's a ribbon-cutting ceremony and nothing more.
Palladian,
Please.
Bush was obsessed w/ Iraq. End of story.
Not exactly the right call.
P.S.
What are you drinking?
Obama is coming off as egotistical and cold. He mentions himself way too much. And he signs letters to the families of dead servicemen-- oh, the strain on his hand!
All this harking back to 9/11 and "unity" is really annoying. It represents America as weak and pathetic. He should have been strongly issuing a warning to other would-be terrorists that this is what will happen to them too. Hang bin-Laden's head on the rostra like they did in the old days.
Did he just end with the fucking Pledge of Allegiance? Oy vey!
Habeamus corpus.
Good. Fucking. Riddance.
I hope he tried to surrender before they shot him.
" Shiloh is a troll, and I hardly feel his remarks worthy of mention, but if I failed to recognize it then, I have since come to believe that Bush did the right thing by minimizing bin Laden's importance."
Bush made a lot of mistakes in the prosecution of the "War on Terror". His early understanding that killing OBL wasn't the most important goal was not one of those mistakes.
Obama called Bush.. decency?
I say yes!
pbAndj,
Come on you were doing so well with the non-partisan talk.
Claiming that Bush didn't consider Osama important is retarded and you know it. The fact of the matter is that he had to say that so as to not make Bin Laden into some sort of icon constantly thumbing his nose at the mighty US (think Che).
If you treat him as some sort of replaceable cog the fact that he's out there is not a propaganda tool for the enemy. On the other hand if you make him into the primary focus of the war then every moment he lives is PR victory.
The best analogy I can use is a prison warden. It is common practice in prison to not recognize any gang lest you give them a form of legitimacy. That doesn't mean they don't exist and that prison officials are not concerned, it just means that they are trying to prevent them from growing in popularity.
The most relieved man on the planet - Eric Holder.
I thought it was a great speech by Obama. The only thing I'd add:
"I'd also like to speak directly to those who would like to emulate bin Laden, who have designs to attack this country. The lesson you should learn today is this: It doesn't matter how long it takes, or how far you run. We will hunt you. We will find you. And we will kill you."
"P.S. What are you drinking?"
Bombay Dry Gin on the rocks.
It's a great day and a great accomplishment. Good job to the troops. Good job, Mr President.
Now that is a Mission Accomplished.
Taking credit for an obvious decision that any man or woman in the office would have taken.
But if killing OBL was top priority, then I expect that all the Islamic violence against us will stop now, right?
Otherwise why was he so important?
If I had to vote tonight.. my republican brethrens would be in trouble.
It was repealing DADT that did it. Yessiree!
Yes. The got the fucker.
The only thing I'm sorry about is that it was probably a clean death in a gunfight. I would've been more glad to see the bastard stuck in a fire-laden skyscraper and forced to ride it down when it collapsed.
That this thread is anything but celebratory says something about us (including me).
And, it isn't good.
The blather can go on tomorrow.
Good speech at the end.
Pathetic crap at the beginning.
They killed him today.
God bless the troops, making the world safe for drunken college students to chant USA at the White House.
Nice job, Obama.
Bush: "no matter how long it takes . . . "
Bush was obsessed w/ Iraq. End of story.
Bush fucked this up. No doubt about it.
I'm thrilled that he's dead and that Obama said we are one nation "under God". All of a sudden we can say that again without offending anyone?
Righteous kill!
Tonight.. I'm a AlphaLiberal.
"Good job, Mr President."
Of course a sorry-ass douchebag like you would take this opportunity to kiss a politician's ass.
The thanks belong to those who completed the mission, and it wasn't the fucking Chief Executive, no matter who that fucking Chief Executive happens to be.
Well, people, ask yourselves: was Bush right? Did Bin Laden matter? After we attacked Afghanistan and Iraq and got serious about terrorist finance, and fascist about airport security?
Because he's dead now. When you wake up tomorrow, what will be different?
Not one goddamn thing. So did Bin Laden matter?
So right now I imagine OBL is having a hell of a time picking which virgin he wants.
And all we get is a a lousy speech from BHO.
The world is unfair.
Like TWM said,let's put aside politics for a few days. Maybe put your flag out tomorrow!
You skipped the part where he talked about how Obama Columbo cracked the case.
Obama made it clear from day 1 that he was in constant campaign mode. Why should I give him a break?
Obama organized the hell out of UBL's community.
Simon, I think that point is understood by those who would emulate bin Laden.
And I agree with TWM that this is better because it was not done with a drone.
So called "Mission Accomplished" speech: May 1, 2003
wv: baling - osama is furiously baling out the ferry across the River Styx, but he will sink
A hell of a military operation.
Beware, ye leaders of Iran,
We can find you if we want to.
Perhaps we could send this group to bring out the body of Daffy.
"Shiloh will still be talking about George W. Bush in 2020."
Again, oh the irony, as conservatives will be deflecting w/but, but, but Carter/Clinton beyond eternity lol.
Heck, if they were dead, AA's flock would try to dig them up ..
Osama bin Laden Dead
gas will still be expensive tomorrow
your house will still be worth less
millions of americans will not suddenly find a job tomorrow
"That this thread is anything but celebratory says something about us (including me)."
Not me, I'm having a drink and just shot off a few left-over bottle rockets from my front porch. Why the rest of you aren't doing back-flips is beyond me.
"I'm thrilled that he's dead and that Obama said we are one nation "under God". All of a sudden we can say that again without offending anyone?"
It's just politics. I'm sick to fucking death of politics. I never listen to politicians blather. The only thing I needed to hear was that Osama is room-fucking-temperature. Thanks to the military who carried it out and the intelligence who made it possible. Everybody else can fuck off.
I hope they show the body.
Why the rest of you aren't doing back-flips is beyond me.
Excuse me if I'm not overly enthused by something that bumps Obama's poll # by 8 points.
I loved Bill Clinton and still do. As for Carter, people didn't talk much about him ever until they started seeing eerie parallels between Obama and Carter.
Do you see eerie parallels between Obama and Bush, Shiloh? Because Althouse has an Obama is like Bush tag. So welcome to the club.
Palla I know what you mean and I love you.. but this should be beyond politics..
This is a victory for the nation as a whole.
Oh Alex, do fuck off.
I hope Michelle is proud of her country, tonight.
Conservatives again I beseech you ~ stop whining! :-P
Also explain me the strategic relevance of killing OBL in 2011. Yeah you can't. It's a political win for Obama and not much else.
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