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Wisconsin protesters this morning (with Jesse Jackson).
Where's Jackson? (Enlarge.)
A bearded man yells and a woman holds up a lefty Christianist sign:
The sign (in front of the flag) reads: "March 9, 18 Republicans gave up their ethics & morals for Lent").
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LEFTIST PROTESTERS DRAGGED OUT OF WI ASSEMBLY – Try to Break Into Rep’s Offices
"This is what The Ox-Bow Incident looks like!!!"
In case you didn't see this in another thread -- in all seriousness, Althouse, you need to go to one of our neighbors and see if you can borrow a Rage Against the Machine t-shirt for Meade, so that he isn't seized by the mob and cut to pieces with sharpened oyster shells.
Or a Che shirt, or at the very least something tie-dyed with a pot leaf on it.
Stand clear of the lower education bubble.
Face it, these people, minus the college students, must really have a great deal for them to Protest so much.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"
That '76' flag is funny, in a "completely lacking any sense of history and awareness" kinda way.
I mean, after all, those protesters are fighting FOR taxation without representation...
I am not shocked that Christianity provides the underpinning for socialist redistributionist schemes. There are literally 100s of Bible passages supporting Karl Marx.
WHy haven't these clowns been fired? At the minimum dock them a weeks pay for every day they don't go to work.
Where's Jackson? He's easy to spot: the only person of color there!
RAAACISTS!!!
WV: bedgive. Seems more appropriate for something related to sexuality.
What in hell is wrong with these idiots? The videos I have seen are almost all college radicals and the air-headed "teachers" who have been indoctrinating the little pukes from pre-school on. Aided and abetted by corrupt union Organizers for Obama.Guess I just answered my own question.
I'm laughing at how utterly stupid the majority population of Wisconson has turned out to be. In effect, who really knew that Wisconsin was the great entitlement bread basket it turned out to be?
Wisconsin GOP senator: Protesters were trying to break the windows on our cars
"This is what any given episode of The Sopranos looks like!"
They've already shut down the capital.
If they continues to lose democratically, will they burn it down?
I know it has been said many times by other commenters, but I just can't get over the utter childishness of the protesters. I'm still looking for an adult in the group to actually make an argument that is sensical ("A people united will never be defeated" doesn't count...). Every time reality smacks them in the face, they just redouble their efforts and make the same lame chant louder.
Reminds me of a co-worker that was having trouble with their computer...if pushing the "delete" button the first time didn't work he just pushes it faster and harder. Still didn't work but maybe it made him feel better.
Mobsters being preached to by the head mobster from Chicago.
The mob, unable to continue to vote for itself a progressive income from the state treasury, has encircled the capitol, intending simply to take the money outright.
Meanwhile, just to check, I found NPR (still functioning, it appears), and they were talking not about the Madison riot or the NPR fiasco, but about Tim Pawlenty's lack of name recognition.
How proud the unionists must be that they are literally destroying a beautiful, historic building in Wisconsin. I just have to wonder how that fits in with all the "greenies".
But then, the Wayward 14 are being lead by Mark Miller. Miller (yeah, get ready for it) who was endorsed in 2004 by the Democratic Socialists of America. Now, that has to be a key point on Miller's resume.
But our ever vigilant reporter of all things Madison has never bothered to mention that. That's OK, it took someone from New Zealand to ferret out that information about Miller.
What you are seeing in Madison is Cloward & Piven in action. Add a couple of Saul Alinsky tactics, and you have a bunch of anarchists taking over the Wisconsin State Capitol.
Wisconsin, you have NOTHING to be proud of today. Your government has been hijacked by radicals. The mobs have taken over your beautiful state capitol, angry, petulant Democrats have lied about negotiations and complained about not getting their paychecks, and your state is now basically nonfunctional. Death threats against Governor Walker and the Republicans are becoming the norm, not the exception. Your [union] police force has acted less than honorable and lawfully.
If this is all an example of how your children have been taught in the last two decades, perhaps it is time for Wisconsin to fire every damn teacher they have and open those jobs up to good teachers who have lost their jobs all across the nation.
What a pathetic state you have devolved into.
"I'd almost be willing to get a job in order to participate in A NATIONAL GENERAL STRIKE."
Actual, for real, no foolin' quote from the Democratic Underground.
These leeches are genuinely and inarguably beyond all hope of effective parody.
clearly we should impose a no-fly zone over madison.
I wonder what garage will do when the recalls all fail and the GOP legislature is re-elected in 2012. Will he declare victory is right around the corner? I swear he's turning into our Wisconsin version of Baghdad Bob.
I believe it is called a coup, and I do not quite understand it. I thought it was settled that secession will not be permitted, and certainly Wisconsin by itself cannot hope to prevail against a Federal Government that is obliged to "guarantee to every State in this Uniona a Republican form of government."
By my reckoning by clicking on the enlarged picture, it appears that Jesse Jackson drew 6 people of color to the event. I count 5 of them within his proximity, and 1 in the background.
I try my best to be blind to race, but really, what is this about? Why hasn't this issue gained any traction within the minority community? I suspect that whatever these protesters are ranting about, it is totally irrelavant to the black community. Are these protesters advocating for better programs to serve low-income people? Are they advocating for more school choice vouchers? Or are they advocating for their own self-privelege? Perhaps these mostly white protesters have the best government jobs & the most to lose, and the blacks are expected to quietly sit in the back?
Where is Crack when we need his perspective?
One suspects that if these teachers strike, WI will finally increase its test scores.
Alex
I read the Bible in my youth and was involved with evangelical Christians in my college days and in all of that, I found no recollection that Christianity was the foundation for Karl Marx's socialist redistribution schemes. You see in Christianity, especially if you read the Gospels and the Acts, people had given their wealth and their time willingly without church leaders coercing them to do so. In fact, rich Christians were not only tolerated but encourage to use their talents and their wealth to spread the Gospel.
In Karl Marx socialist redistribution schemes, the wealth is redistributed by force for the sake of fairness. It is not voluntary and those who opposed it are not only thrown in jail, but also killed or murdered in the process.
Alex, the big difference between Christianity and Marxism falls down to these two words. In Christianity, Charity is the main reason to give and share while in Marxism, Covetousness is the main reason to take and steal from others
This gives a whole new meaning to March Madness.
Warning: OT
Live coverage of Congressman Pete King's committee hearing on Islamic Radicalization.
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)
Criminey, Alex.
Off topic and old old old.
Remember - the rest of the world stands agape in HORROR at what we're doing to public employee unions. Horror, oh the horror.
Pogo - it may be ancient but you dispute the Bible verse? Rich people will not gain access to heaven.
Same thought I had. They are so greedy and childish they are willing to destroy our form of representative government to get thier money and to be able to force the real middle class to pay taxes to support them. And, the lazy bums have the gall to even pretend thwy're fighting for some great moral cause.
alan markus, when only 51% of black students graduate in Wisconsin, perhaps the parents aren't too sympathetic to teachers who seem to let their kids fail.
I want to add that for weeks now I have had a regular bout of regurge everytime I see Americans -- middle class Americans in this case -- referred to as "workers."
It must be part of the lack of any historical framework apart from Howard Zinn, I guess.
"workers" makes the hair on my arms stand up.
Alex, nowhere does it say that rich people are barred from heaven. It clearly says that it is difficult for rich people to enter heaven.
Were you educated in Wisconsin Alex? Your comprehension needs work.
Trey
Alex - How come the next two verses are always left out when someone quotes this?
When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, "Who then can be saved?" Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
It sounds to me that, through God, a rich man can enter the kingdom of Heaven.
Hey Alex, did you even bother to read your own verse?? It only says it is harder for them (earthly temptations, etc.), not that they won't.
Shame on you for the misrepresentation.
Where is Crack when we need his perspective?
Gargling Tiger Blood and snorting multiple lines of Peruvian Flake from the aesthetically perfect asses of several dozen teenaged Thai hookers. ;)
Gargling Tiger Blood and snorting multiple lines of Peruvian Flake from the aesthetically perfect asses of several dozen teenaged Thai hookers.
Could Charlie Sheen and Crack be one and the same person?
Clairvius is in da house!
I move that we call Crack 'Crackerjack' for the rest of the day.
Alex;
Must we do this again.
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)
And now for a little context:
(from Matthew 19:25-26, in other words THE NEXT VERSES!)
When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”
Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
So it seems impossible from a human perspective but very possible from a Godly perspective.
And now to add a bit of additional perspective. As regards, who is "eligible" for the kingdom of heaven:
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23)
and finally the Christian perspective of that verse:
and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
Using the Bible as a justification for a Marxist ideology is as inappropriate as using it for a "prosperity Gospel"
Can I assume that there isn't much work being done in Wisconsin since it appears that the vast majority of its citizenry are busy standing around the Capitol being angry?
"a lefty Christianist sign"
One thing I've learned from all my time here at this blog, is that Althouse tends to choose her words very carefully.
In this case, co-opting Sullivan's attempted framing of conservative Christians, and applying it to progressive Christians who are trying to use Scripture as part of their explicit goals to control government.
Very sly.
WV: haviming. Ah, a good word. Defined as the collective of haves who seek to have more, at the cost of the have-nots. Images in this post suggest they come in all shapes and sizes, but mostly, with notable exceptions, one color.
Ann Althouse said...
Where's Jackson?
Right next to Waldo.
Clairvius Narcisse said...
clearly we should impose a no-fly zone over madison.
Imposing one over the Kos trolls would do nicely.
vast majority of its citizenry are busy standing around the Capitol
That's where you're wrong Hoosier. The VAST majority of us (5.3 million or so) are at work in the private sector and, other than an occasional peek in at the Althouse reports, ignoring the temper tantrum downtown.
The catch-all verse that means everyone will eventuuuuallly get into heaven is:
It is written: "'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.'"
Romans 14:11
Deborah;
I don't want to get into a biblical theology discussion but I would suggest there are definitely different interpretations of
it is written: "'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.'"
Back on topic:
As a child of the '60's I'd have to say the images are getting more disturbing. This will not end well.
And on another related note: Can I assume there are also left of center blogs that have new media "reporters" on the scene or is Meade truly one of the few?
It is written: "'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.'"
Nietzsche took care of that one.
I jest. I jest. I don't do theology.
Phil, Abe Sauer is covering the protests for 'The Awl.' Althouse has a link here to his piece:
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/03/abe-sauer-at-awl-attempting-disrespect.html
Yeah, deborah, I have to say that line never struck me as having a "hey, you'll get into Heaven someday" vibe.
More of a "God knows where you live, and He's pissed" vibe.
DADvocate beat me to it--Alex, Jesus said what he said about the rich and the eye of a needle, to counter the then current belief that the rich were sure to go to heaven because being rich proved that God loved you. Right after he said that, his incredulous disciples asked, well if that’s true, who can possibly get into heaven? Jesus answered that with man it is not possible, but with God, all things are possible. IOW, God can save the rich or anyone else if he chooses, but you can't earn it. It's grace.
the eye of the needle refers to the small doors where a traveller could get through the city walls after nightfall when the main gates were closed. to get a camel through one of these openings it was necessary to remove the camels packs (shed worldly goods), get the camel onto its knees and crawl through the small door (humble yourself before god). so, while not impossible, also not easy.
I just heard a woman from Wisconsin
talking on the radio describing how the beautiful grounds around the Capital have been destroyed and that the inside of the Capital smells.
She is disgusted.
That's where you're wrong Hoosier. The VAST majority of us (5.3 million or so) are at work in the private sector and, other than an occasional peek in at the Althouse reports, ignoring the temper tantrum downtown.
Well you wouldn't know it since the vast majority can't be bothered to mount a suitable counter protest. Clearly a recall will be passed, Walker will be frog-marched to a guillotine and tax increases on the wealthiest Wisconsonites will be implemented in order to set to rights, this travesty, this genocidal assault on public employee unions.
/sarc off
I wonder if liberals see the irony that public employees need union protection from their employer (the government) when in any other situation, the government is the sole provider of our basic needs (welfare, education, health care...)
My compromise solution would be to let them keep all collective bargaining rights and any agreements on wages/benefits would be accompanied by a fiscal impact statement and final approval put forth to a vote by the taxpayer.
Perhaps, Phil and Rev...perhaps:)
Way to go Clairvius...that's awesome.
@Deborah: have you been listening to Cassius? [I guess that's a bit "old school" now, but I'd be impressed].
I just want to sleep till Gov. Walker has dotted the i's on the bill, the protesters go home and realize the sky has not caved in on their heads.
Ditto our elite overlords, like even Diane Ravitch (often brilliant, but pliable in that inside-the-beltway way] who's saying this has radicalized a generation of college youth who realize they're not going to get the world they've been promised.
What world do they consider promised anyway? They say we're going to be 200 feet beneath the ocean; they should be happy when it turns out they can afford a dry apartment and single Hyundai Elantra for the family of three someday. If they were really the "workers of the world", that'd taste like one sweet deal . . .
Whew. It's under control. And, it came under control by the next morning. (After what had to be a FLASH MOB) call out.
For the democraps? Still a circus.
That they're doing it outside the Capitol and not inside, a VICTORY FOR WALKER!
That the NY Times has lost subscribers, and became an arm of the obama white house? So what?
Cassius?
@ Cairvius: Exactly the translation I was taught, though I've never sourced it for myself.
"...that's awesome."
Dunno. Sounds like BS to me.
Jesse Jackson to Megyn Kelly just a second ago (not to mention he's calling for escalating the protests) when she asked what the difference was between procedures used to pass ObamaCare and the vote last night, since they were both apparently legal and virtually identical.
“More healthcare for more Americans wasn’t as hurtful as less education.“
What a worthless piece of shit.
@ Deborah: It's a French dance track with the refrain "Cassius in da house"-- sortof like the Dirty Vegas track the protesters were reveling with some Meade videos ago.
You said "Clairvius is in da house!" --a happy accident, I suppose?
Sorry. It just amused me!
No, Lucius, but I will definitely check out the song, thanks.
Touche, Paco.
By the bye, here is a link to a google page with some articles about Iran helping stabilize Iraq:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=ie7&q=asia+times+iran+stabilize+iraq&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSNA_enUS360US360
vast majority of its citizenry are busy standing around the Capitol
Even my husband, who is a sympathizer with the cause, is still doing his work. He doesn't come to bed until 5:30 a.m. because he spends so much of the day watching what's going on but he is doing his work.
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