Althouse: "University of Wisconsin Police Chief Susan Riseling says 41 rounds of .22-caliber ammunition were found Thursday morning scattered at several locations outside the Capitol."

३ मार्च, २०११

"University of Wisconsin Police Chief Susan Riseling says 41 rounds of .22-caliber ammunition were found Thursday morning scattered at several locations outside the Capitol."

"The revelation came as state attorneys asked a Dane County judge to order the Capitol closed for a security sweep.... Union attorney Peggy Lautenschlager suggested in court that the ammunition could have been planted by someone other than a protester."

६८ टिप्पण्या:

अनामित म्हणाले...: Are there no security cameras on the grounds?

-er, nevermind. They're probably union controlled, on strike.

-er, nevermind. They're probably Capitol Police controlled, protectorates of the unionists.

-er, nevermind. Anything disparaging to the unionists would be buried from the public by State-run media (Hands-off NewMeadia!)

Clearly scare tactics by Walker Brownshirts.....; ३/३/११, ३:१२ PM
Hagar म्हणाले...: Or someone dumped a box into his jacket pocket not knowing that it had a hole in it.
Lots of people are careless with .22 LR ammunition, though .22's are not toys.; ३/३/११, ३:१३ PM
kent म्हणाले...: "Union attorney Peggy Lautenschlager suggested in court that the ammunition could have been planted by someone other than a protester."

"... or... you know... pixie faeries, maybe. Or elves, even! ELVES!!!"; ३/३/११, ३:१६ PM
YoungHegelian म्हणाले...: You see!? This is what happens when you have a tea partiers and right wing NRA thugs take over your capital!

They're just crypto-fascist goons, I tell you!

What??

Nevermind. Forget I said anything.

PS: If it were right wingers, they wouldn't have used no pussy-ass .22 caliber slugs.; ३/३/११, ३:१७ PM
R.L. Hunter म्हणाले...: I will make a prediction.

50 rounds total will be found.

Why? Because a 50 round box of .22LR is the cheapest box of ammo you can buy.

Someone is trying to incite fear.

As to who, could be anyone; ३/३/११, ३:१९ PM
Superdad म्हणाले...: Unless they also found a gun and someone holding it, I really don't see this as a big security threat.

Turns out the bullets don't do much on there own. Not saying its a great idea to just toss them about, but really there is not that much in the way of a threat here; ३/३/११, ३:२३ PM
MadisonMan म्हणाले...: 41 inverted is 14. There are 14 Senators on the lam.

Coincidence?; ३/३/११, ३:२३ PM
Henry म्हणाले...: How many rocks did they find?

And not one of them thrown through a window.; ३/३/११, ३:२५ PM
Beth Donovan म्हणाले...: I will bet you that they were planted by the union protesters so they could blame the Tea Party.; ३/३/११, ३:२५ PM
James म्हणाले...: I wonder if Peggy Lautenschlager was sober....

Did she drive to the court appearance at 15 m.p.h?

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Soc/soc.culture.hmong/2005-09/msg00418.html

JUNEAU - Wisconsin's top law-enforcement officer, Attorney General Peggy Lautenschlager, was arrested for drunken driving early Tuesday morning after she ran her state-owned car into the ditch on Highway 151 in Dodge County.

Lautenschlager, who refused to speak to reporters, acknowledged in a written statement that she was cited for drunken driving after she "fell asleep" while behind the wheel. The attorney general was not hurt, but the car received minor damage from hitting a snowbank just north of Columbus.

In a preliminary breath test given at the scene, Lautenschlager's blood-alcohol level registered 0.12 percent, or 50 percent above the 0.08 legal limit, according to a report from the Dodge County Sheriff's Department. However, Lautenschlager refused a blood test.

The Democratic attorney general was handcuffed and placed in a
sheriff's squad car. She was released to the custody of her husband, William Rippl, a Neenah police officer, who came from their home in Fond du Lac to pick her up shortly after 1 a.m.; ३/३/११, ३:२७ PM
Triangle Man म्हणाले...: @MadisonMan

41 is also 50 rounds in a box - 8 in the magazine - 1 in the chamber.; ३/३/११, ३:३१ PM
Ignorance is Bliss म्हणाले...: Remember, guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.; ३/३/११, ३:३४ PM
Chip S. म्हणाले...: This story is the perfect political Rohrscach test.; ३/३/११, ३:३६ PM
traditionalguy म्हणाले...: I bet the 22s found next to the kotex pads.; ३/३/११, ३:३८ PM
Calypso Facto म्हणाले...: When did Peg take the AFSCME job? I hadn't heard of that prior to today. Thought she was teaching at Ripon.

How cozy, of course, to move from political office to supporter consulting. And yes, I know it happens all the time, still...; ३/३/११, ३:३८ PM
retire05 म्हणाले...: It is only a matter of time before those sleep deprived sqatters in the Wisconsin State Capitol melt down.

Wisconsin is rapidly becoming the Charlie Sheen of the lower 48.; ३/३/११, ३:४० PM
traditionalguy म्हणाले...: If the stupid Demonstrators left the 22s, they will probably ask for them back.; ३/३/११, ३:४१ PM
Christopher म्हणाले...: I suppose that if we are still blaming rhetoric for violence, or threats thereof, then this is clearly the fault of the union supporters.

Granted I think that that idea is bullshit, but goose/gander.; ३/३/११, ३:४१ PM
Calypso Facto म्हणाले...: "Multiple rounds" found at the city-county building now too.

Like, 9, maybe?; ३/३/११, ३:४४ PM
E Buzz म्हणाले...: Well, I'm sure if it were a bunch of Tea Partiers, we would really understand the core meaning of ammo strewn all over the place. See, if some Republican got shot in the face, it would be his fault because he didn't pick up the ammo those evil Tea partiers left all over the place, stuff like that.

Of course it's a plant.

It's really interesting how we are having created for us two entirely different classes, the Democrat class and the republican class...one gets treated entirely different than the other.

I wonder if this is what it was like in the USSR, the decline...; ३/३/११, ३:४४ PM
Revenant म्हणाले...: 41 rounds of .22 ammunition scattered across "several locations" sounds pretty meaningless to me.; ३/३/११, ३:४४ PM
Drew म्हणाले...: Union attorney Peggy Lautenschlager suggested in court that the ammunition could have been planted by someone other than a protester."

I'm sure it was those teabaggers. Unionists are peaceful protesters! Didn't you hear them chanting "PEACE! PEACE!" when they cornered Glenn Grothman?; ३/३/११, ३:४६ PM
former law student म्हणाले...: I had the same idea as Hagar. Somebody was out plinking, then went to the Capitol for some reason.

One time I went bird hunting with friends I left a shotshell in my pocket. Luckily this was on the ride over to the airport, so I just gave it to my buddy. I can imagine what happened if it showed up on an x-ray.; ३/३/११, ३:४७ PM
Revenant म्हणाले...: Wisconsin is rapidly becoming the Charlie Sheen of the lower 48.

Come on. Wisconsin is the middle-class white kid who goes to college and gets drunk for the first time on a six-pack of Pabst.

It needs another half-century of serious debauchery before it can challenge states like California and Louisiana for the Sheen title.; ३/३/११, ३:५३ PM
Calypso Facto म्हणाले...: Or someone dumped a box into his jacket pocket

The same ammo at 3 different Capitol entries and now at another building? Nope.; ३/३/११, ३:५८ PM
Roman म्हणाले...: Last time I purchaced .22 rimfire ammo, about a month ago. 41 rounds would be about $0.82 worth.

I don't think I would be too upset.; ३/३/११, ३:५९ PM
R.L. Hunter म्हणाले...: fls

I think it's more likely some idiot with little knowledge of guns bought the cheapest box of ammo they could and scattered it about trying to make it look like things were getting "Dangerous"; ३/३/११, ४:०२ PM
Scott M म्हणाले...: I think it's more likely some idiot with little knowledge of guns bought the cheapest box of ammo they could and scattered it about trying to make it look like things were getting "Dangerous"

Agreed.; ३/३/११, ४:०४ PM
Wince म्हणाले...: They just accidently fall out every time Instapundit pulls a video camera from his pocket?

;); ३/३/११, ४:०७ PM
Calypso Facto म्हणाले...: They just accidently fall out every time Instapundit pulls a video camera from his pocket?

Hey! Where WAS New Media Meade today, anyways?; ३/३/११, ४:११ PM
former law student म्हणाले...: scattered it about trying to make it look like things were getting "Dangerous"

Madison's squirrels should certainly be on edge; ३/३/११, ४:१५ PM
Triangle Man म्हणाले...: I hear there are also numerous empty shotgun shells scattered around fields, marshy areas, and lake shores across the state.; ३/३/११, ४:१८ PM
Triangle Man म्हणाले...: "May I have 10,000 marbles please?'; ३/३/११, ४:१९ PM
Alex म्हणाले...: Clearly rabid leftists can't help themselves. They've gone over the edge!; ३/३/११, ४:२१ PM
R.L. Hunter म्हणाले...: Madison's squirrels should certainly be on edge

That's it! The protesters were stealing their acorns so now the squirrels are starting to arm themselves. ;-); ३/३/११, ४:२३ PM
David म्हणाले...: Who the hell knows how this got there. Pure speculation. But not good news.; ३/३/११, ४:२७ PM
Fen म्हणाले...: Triangle Man: 41 is also 50 rounds in a box - 8 in the magazine - 1 in the chamber.

Nice job. You must be Miss Marple in RL.; ३/३/११, ४:२७ PM
rhhardin म्हणाले...: Somebody's trying to get it all declared a historic site to prevent development.; ३/३/११, ४:३३ PM
Fen म्हणाले...: The protesters were stealing their acorns so now the squirrels are starting to arm themselves.

Don't joke. I saw a squirrel mug a pigeon once. It actually put the pigeon in a headlock and gave it a noogie. Was hysterical at the time, but I've never been the same since.

So whatever you do, don't piss off the squirrels.; ३/३/११, ४:४७ PM
JAL म्हणाले...: Of course it was planted.

The rumor that it might not have been the demonstrators but RRWs, that is.

BTW! Did you hear that Jared Lougher was ...

Whoops. Wrong narrative.; ३/३/११, ५:११ PM
Bushman of the Kohlrabi म्हणाले...: Peggy Lautenschlager

With a name like that you just know she'd be the life of the party.; ३/३/११, ५:१४ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Ann, How could you?!?!?!

;-P; ३/३/११, ५:१६ PM
Issob Morocco म्हणाले...: Just remember People don't kill people, bullets do.; ३/३/११, ५:१९ PM
former law student म्हणाले...: Peggy Lautenschlager... life of the party

No, Rubschlager brings your party to life:

http://www.rubschlagerbaking.com
/page2.html; ३/३/११, ५:२२ PM
Unknown म्हणाले...: Interesting how, when something is found that was supposed to be the hallmark of the Tea Partiers in the proximity of the Lefties, the first thing the Lefties say is, "It's a plant!".

Joe Friday heard that a lot, too.; ३/३/११, ५:२२ PM
Cedarford म्हणाले...: Hagar said...
Or someone dumped a box into his jacket pocket not knowing that it had a hole in it.
Lots of people are careless with .22 LR ammunition, though .22's are not toys.

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.22 ammo sans being in a weapon, is flat out NOTHING as a threat to safety. Finding some though, sans weapon, is a way for The Heroes! of the TSA and law enforcement to raise a public stink about how they will investigate and protect against the menace of stray rounds ammo, and justify their being immune from staffing cuts.; ३/३/११, ५:२४ PM
The Drill SGT म्हणाले...: Madison's squirrels should certainly be on edge

Who in Madison is the biggest Enemy of Squirrels?

Which member of the New Media has demonstrated that he supports 2nd amendment rights?

Which new media member was seen at the Capitol recently?

Meade, you better get a good lawyer; ३/३/११, ५:२९ PM
former law student म्हणाले...: .22 ammo sans being in a weapon, is flat out NOTHING as a threat to safety.

I seem to recall some experiments involving a vice and a hammer...; ३/३/११, ५:३७ PM
deborah म्हणाले...: "The Democratic attorney general was handcuffed and placed in a
sheriff's squad car. She was released to the custody of her husband, William Rippl, a Neenah police officer, who came from their home in Fond du Lac to pick her up shortly after 1 a.m."

Ouch.; ३/३/११, ५:३८ PM
Kelly from Georgia म्हणाले...: We target shoot off my front porch all the time. I guarantee you I could go under the porch and find at least 41 live .22 rounds.

Should I be worried that they were planted by Tea Partiers?

What am I saying? One of our middle schools just raffled off a .22 Remington LR to raise money for the cross country team.

.22s are not particularly scary. The nine year old girl up the road just got a pink one for her birthday.

Kelly; ३/३/११, ५:५० PM
former law student म्हणाले...: Unfortunately, lawyers have been known to drink more than they should

www.otherbar.org

Supporting Recovery in the Legal Community; ३/३/११, ५:५१ PM
Sigivald म्हणाले...: So, uh, not quite one standard box, or about $5 worth.

What Hagar said, this means exactly nothing, given the available information.; ३/३/११, ६:११ PM
galdosiana म्हणाले...: ...Well, according to the 6:00 news, protesters have broken into the capitol and are storming the building. The police chief has confirmed that police are currently donning riot gear to deal with the situation.; ३/३/११, ६:२२ PM
deborah म्हणाले...: Thanks, fls. (Great name for it.); ३/३/११, ६:२४ PM
deborah म्हणाले...: Waits for galdosiana to say 'psych!'; ३/३/११, ६:२५ PM
galdosiana म्हणाले...: Unfortunately, it's true. Susan Simon just reported it on the CBS 6:00 news here in Madison. I've looked for an online source to link, but it appears no one has written it up yet...; ३/३/११, ६:२९ PM
deborah म्हणाले...: I'm looking, too. Lets see how fast it takes to get on the twitter breaking-news feed:

http://twitter.com/BREAKINGNEWS; ३/३/११, ६:३४ PM
I'm a Shaaaaark म्हणाले...: .22 ammo sans being in a weapon, is flat out NOTHING as a threat to safety.

Very untrue. Give me a cartridge of any caliber, a nail, and a piece of wood, maybe a small length of hollow bamboo or similar - none of them weapons - and a few moments of quiet time, and it could get real dangerous real quick.

Repeat that 50 times...

/Just something I learned from some radical leftists when I was a youngun.; ३/३/११, ६:३८ PM
galdosiana म्हणाले...: I still can't find anything online about it. But I did find this: http://www.wqow.com/Global/story.asp?S=14183941

The protests at the Capitol have caused an estimated $7.5 million in damage, especially due to the tape staining the different types of marble.; ३/३/११, ६:४२ PM
Big Mike म्हणाले...: @R.L.Hunter and Triangle Man, that's what I thought at first, too. But don't most .22LR handguns carry 10 rounds in the magazine?; ३/३/११, ६:४५ PM
I'm a Shaaaaark म्हणाले...: I still can't find anything online about it.

I don't see anything either.

I did see that a judge just ordered the remaining protesters out though, and Scott Walker is speaking, so maybe a confluence of the two events caused a minor disturbance of some kind?; ३/३/११, ६:४६ PM
galdosiana म्हणाले...: Ok, here it is just briefly mentioned, since it is an ongoing situation:

Just before 6 p.m. Thursday, protesters got through into the Capitol entrance. Police are imploring them to leave or be arrested.

Authorities said crews are putting on riot gear at the Capitol, and it's an evolving situation.

Stay tuned to WISC-TV and Channel 3000 for continuing coverage.

http://www.channel3000.com/news/27072006/detail.html; ३/३/११, ६:४६ PM
Big Mike म्हणाले...: Aha! The Smith & Wesson model 617 22LR has a 10 round capacity (standard practice with a double action revolver is to keep the chamber under the hammer empty for safety).; ३/३/११, ६:५३ PM
Michelle Dulak Thomson म्हणाले...: Bushman of the Kohlrabi

[I will never cease admiring that moniker, btw],

Peggy Lautenschlager

Perhaps one of her ancestors is personally responsible for

the little rift within the lute /
That by-and-by will make the music mute

wv: splintis. Tweezers are good things.; ३/३/११, ७:०१ PM
Cedarford म्हणाले...: I'm a Shaaaaark said...
.22 ammo sans being in a weapon, is flat out NOTHING as a threat to safety.

Very untrue. Give me a cartridge of any caliber, a nail, and a piece of wood, maybe a small length of hollow bamboo or similar - none of them weapons - and a few moments of quiet time, and it could get real dangerous real quick.

Repeat that 50 times...
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No, your argument is that .22 ammo is inherently dangerous because someone could construct a weapon and use it. OK, give me 1 gallon of gasoline a cylinder of compressed air, some pipes and plumbing fittings and a lighter and I can show you how to make what the Heroes! of law enforcement are calling a WMD. Or a tank you add 8 gallons of concentrated bleach, 2 of ammonia - another combo the Heroes! are saying legally meets the definition of a WMD.

Sure Shaaark, lots of things are dangerous if you construct them and other material into a weapon.

But a few loose rounds of ammo by themselves are as danngerous as finding loose change on the ground.; ३/३/११, ७:४१ PM
Todd G. म्हणाले...: Also, H & R and other US revolver manufacturers offered numerous 9 shot .22 caliber revolvers models. I've got a couple.; ३/३/११, ७:४७ PM
Synova म्हणाले...: "PS: If it were right wingers, they wouldn't have used no pussy-ass .22 caliber slugs."

LOL.; ३/३/११, १०:१४ PM
paul a'barge म्हणाले...: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1425&bih=728&q=susan+riseling+police&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=; ४/३/११, १०:१० AM